I'm about to finish this rooting process to put a custom rom on my brothers phone, but I want to be sure he won't lose all of his data if I do the ESPRIMG.zip update...I'm just trying to play it safe before he hates me for losing all his data
If anyone can verify this for me, I'd greatly appreciate it. I don't want to mess this up if I can avoid it.
Using the exploid method, I got to the part where you get the # in the adb shell, indicating root. However, titanium backup and such apps would not yet run, so I had to continue to make the root permanent with full access(or so I understand), and have now found myself at this step. If this zip only enables us to flash clockwork without wiping all the data on the phone, that would be awesome. I just want to make sure that is true...I haven't seen the answer anywhere else. Thanks for the help guys!
I wouldn't think anything would be wiped until you flash a new rom or do a wipe yourself... but don't quote me on that... I've only rooted 3 devices and the Slide was back in December, haha. D:
Which leads me to a kind of on-topic question... How do people back up their stuff the first time around if they're not rooted? I'm sure it's something simple. I just kinda made a list of the stuff I had.
If it's something extraordinarily obvious, I'm sorry it's 5AM anddd... I should probably know anyways. xD
SefEXE said:
I wouldn't think anything would be wiped until you flash a new rom or do a wipe yourself... but don't quote me on that... I've only rooted 3 devices and the Slide was back in December, haha. D:
Which leads me to a kind of on-topic question... How do people back up their stuff the first time around if they're not rooted? I'm sure it's something simple. I just kinda made a list of the stuff I had.
If it's something extraordinarily obvious, I'm sorry it's 5AM anddd... I should probably know anyways. xD
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This is what I'm wondering. I've rooted a G1, G2, and nook color before (although the NC is completely automated and required no work really, as there was nothing to back up the first time around). On the G1, it was my first device obviously and I lost all my data when wiping and flashing a custom rom. In the G2 process, I was able to get apps like Ti Backup to run on the stock rom, so I was able to back up all my apps and data.
On this one, it's a bit different (at least for now), I want to know if performing that update in the bootloader will put an entirely different image on my phone, meaning I'd lose all the data that's currently on there.
It's not so much the apps, but all the application data that I'm worried about losing without warning him first...I don't want him to have to repeat all his work to get to the same spot he's currently at in angry birds or something
Its going to wipe the phone. How to back up data? Idk.
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I just did this myself, so take a noob's word for what it's worth.
Yes it will wipe the phone IF you tell it to do the update. If you want to back up your phone you first need to put ClockworkMod Recovery on your SD card and name it simply update.zip. When you load into the boot loader (Vol down + Power) select "Recovery" then something about "Apply from SD: Update.zip" and you will get into ClockworkMod Recovery where you can then do a Nandroid back up of your phone.
rohit275 said:
I'm about to finish this rooting process to put a custom rom on my brothers phone, but I want to be sure he won't lose all of his data if I do the ESPRIMG.zip update...I'm just trying to play it safe before he hates me for losing all his data
If anyone can verify this for me, I'd greatly appreciate it. I don't want to mess this up if I can avoid it.
Using the exploid method, I got to the part where you get the # in the adb shell, indicating root. However, titanium backup and such apps would not yet run, so I had to continue to make the root permanent with full access(or so I understand), and have now found myself at this step. If this zip only enables us to flash clockwork without wiping all the data on the phone, that would be awesome. I just want to make sure that is true...I haven't seen the answer anywhere else. Thanks for the help guys!
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It completely wipes the phone. It REPLACES SPL, radio, recovery, rom, etc with the factory spec so the phone will be exactly as it was when first pulled out of the box.
Contacts, calendar, etc should be backed up to google. Apps can be downloaded again from the market and should be auto restored on sign-in to google.
Personal settings and data like texts, call logs, etc are gone though unless you use a program like Titanium Backup to save them.
The other thing you could do is root the stock rom, make a nandroid backup before flashing a custom rom and then if he wants to go back all he has to do is restore the nandroid backup and unroot with all his data preserved.
All right this is what i was suspecting. Is there any way to run titanium backup on the stock rom without wiping it first?
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rohit275 said:
All right this is what i was suspecting. Is there any way to run titanium backup on the stock rom without wiping it first?
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What do you mean? Titanium Backup requires root. You can use it in your custom rom to backup everything you want, then restore, reroot, then download titanium backup again and restore the data from your sdcard. If that doesn't answer your question please elaborate on what you are trying to accomplish so that I can help.
Where are you now? What steps did you take to get there? Where are you trying to get to and why?
EDIT - I've had an mt3g and an mt4g but never an espresso so i'm slightly out of my element. I reread the first post and it appears you have root but for whatever reason titanium isn't granted root access. Do you have superuser permissions installed? It can be installed from the market as long as you have root access.
Once you have clockwork (or amon ra) recovery installed you can make a nandroid backup of his stock rom without rooting it, but carrying all the data over to the new rom will require an app such as titanium or mybackup (free 30 day trial) from the market.
Hope that helps.
I guess it WILL then!
Yeah, this was the first device I rooted, so I just sorta flew through it. I was glad that it got rooted and I could put a rom on, so the loss of data wasn't TOO big to me.
And I've lost Angry Birds like... 4 times now, haha.
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What do you mean? Titanium Backup requires root. You can use it in your custom rom to backup everything you want, then restore, reroot, then download titanium backup again and restore the data from your sdcard. If that doesn't answer your question please elaborate on what you are trying to accomplish so that I can help.
Where are you now? What steps did you take to get there? Where are you trying to get to and why?
EDIT - I've had an mt3g and an mt4g but never an espresso so i'm slightly out of my element. I reread the first post and it appears you have root but for whatever reason titanium isn't granted root access. Do you have superuser permissions installed? It can be installed from the market as long as you have root access.
Once you have clockwork (or amon ra) recovery installed you can make a nandroid backup of his stock rom without rooting it, but carrying all the data over to the new rom will require an app such as titanium or mybackup (free 30 day trial) from the market.
Hope that helps.
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I am aware of all of that.
What I've done is use the exploid method to root until you get to the "#" prompt in the adb shell, after toggling wifi and running ./exploid twice. Then to continue in order to flash a custom rom, I've got to perform the update from the bootloader with ESPRIMG.zip. All I'm asking is that since I do have root through the exploid method, can I run Titanium Backup BEFORE I flash a custom rom, since technically it is possible to gain root access before flashing custom roms. I tried installing the app but it could not properly gain the access it needed. I think this probably has something to do with no superuser app being installed either.
Does it make sense what I'm asking? Thanks guys.
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I am aware of all of that.
What I've done is use the exploid method to root until you get to the "#" prompt in the adb shell, after toggling wifi and running ./exploid twice. Then to continue in order to flash a custom rom, I've got to perform the update from the bootloader with ESPRIMG.zip. All I'm asking is that since I do have root through the exploid method, can I run Titanium Backup BEFORE I flash a custom rom, since technically it is possible to gain root access before flashing custom roms. I tried installing the app but it could not properly gain the access it needed. I think this probably has something to do with no superuser app being installed either.
Does it make sense what I'm asking? Thanks guys.
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Yeah I think so. I'll take a look at the root guide but if you have # in Terminal then you should have root. Try installing superuser and see what happens. Do you have a custom recovery installed yet? I think you'll need that to install superuser.
Why didn't you just try SuperOneClick? Much easier than all this.
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Yeah I think so. I'll take a look at the root guide but if you have # in Terminal then you should have root. Try installing superuser and see what happens. Do you have a custom recovery installed yet? I think you'll need that to install superuser.
Why didn't you just try SuperOneClick? Much easier than all this.
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The # in terminal disappears as soon as I try to exit, and whatever work you've done resets upon a reboot.
I don't have clockwork installed as of yet, because the guide says I've got to update the ESPRIMG.zip through the bootloader before I can do that. I'll try flashing clockwork first and installing superuser before I do anything else.
Does a one click root exist for the slide? I thought that it wasn't possible at this time. If that's the case I'm interested as long as it allows me to run Ti Backup and such and flash clockwork with s-off to do some backups before I go ahead and flash cyanogenmod. Thanks.
EDIT: As expected, can't flash clockwork update without flashing the ESPRIMG.zip update. If I can't run Titanium, it'd be nice to get a couple files out of /data/data before doing the wipe. I tried an adb pull which would not work from the /data partition. With the # prompt in terminal, I wanted to copy some of these files, but the "cp" command doesn't seem to work in terminal, but "mv" and "rm" do. Any way to copy files from within the adb shell? If I could move them to the SD card it would be nice.
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The # in terminal disappears as soon as I try to exit, and whatever work you've done resets upon a reboot.
I don't have clockwork installed as of yet, because the guide says I've got to update the ESPRIMG.zip through the bootloader before I can do that. I'll try flashing clockwork first and installing superuser before I do anything else.
Does a one click root exist for the slide? I thought that it wasn't possible at this time. If that's the case I'm interested as long as it allows me to run Ti Backup and such and flash clockwork with s-off to do some backups before I go ahead and flash cyanogenmod. Thanks.
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You know I'm not sure, I'd have to do more research. Will let you know when I figure it out.
Hello,
I rooted my Desire with Unrevoked 3 with the recovery-RA-desire-v2.0.0.img. Everything goes fine and the program said: Done.
When I reboot I have according to Titanium no root access and my sd card is not found anymore.
What did I do wrong?
when you find the SuperUser app in the applist your root is well done! if not try again with unrev...
which OS did you use?
greez VA
I find the SuperUser app in the applist but when I start up Titanium Backup, It tells me I'm not rooted. In HBOOT is says: S-On
I use Unrevoked via XP, and I installed the special drivers.
Then rooting was a success! You have to apply all root apps superuser rights. Check in superuser app if titanium backup are listed correctly. Or click in titanium backup on problems and then settings. This will install the busybox. Reboot and try again. Good luck
Greez VA
Thanks for your reply,
I have an superuser icon and titanium i listed correctly. When I click on problems in Titanium I've downloaded a program that I can't download. It is not Busybox.
Now I installed Gingerbread on my Desire but now I can't have access to the phone with Unrevoked.
How do you mean downloaded a program you can't download?? Btw is that prob only at titanium ore on all root apps? Some time ago I've read something about the prob with titanium. I'll look for it...
Greez VA
you've installed gingerbread? The official gingerbread? . Hmm..
As for titanium, wipe it's data in ' manage applications' then start it again, making sure you allow super user access (the first screen)... You only have ten seconds to do so.
you can allow or forbit root rights for each installed root app in the superuser app. ive tried it with titanium and get the fc: sorry no root rights titanium cant work without etc...
I also searched for the article i talked about but found nothing, sry!
Hope you doesnt flashed the official Gingerbread ROM.
Btw: rooting under Win is very buggy...linux is much better and incredibly faster for this => highly recommend
maybe a superuser app update helps...
greez VA
I installed su-3.0-beta4-efgh-Sense3.5.zip which is something to do with superuser ... I think, by accident. (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1250815)
And now, when I access Titanium Backup or any other app that required root, it tells me that I'm not rooted or that something went wrong with superuser.
Please help, how can I reverse this?
Many Thanks in Advance
Kanay
nandroid? Reflash rom? Common sense really.
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Check your permissions in the superuser app options/settings and make sure titanium has su permission. If you dont have a superuser app, then you lost root. If you do then you do still have root, generally. Also make sure you have some sort of busybox installed, ive noticed that sometimes having a bad busybox or the beta busybox forces me to use the "force system busybox" etc options in titanium backup to work properly.
I already had superuser installed on my sg3. I installed mobile odin the other day and it installed superSU. Now I have both on my phone. Which should I keep, and how can I delete any of these, since they are all showing as system applications? I want to make sure I don't lose root of course. I googled but am not having much luck with this.
I would keep SuperSu. There might be an option in Superuser to uninstall it. You might be able to use Titanium Backup or you could delete it from the /system/app folder. Those are about all the options I can think of at the moment. I am sure other people will have other ideas as well.
I've run into an issue that thus far I have been completely unable to resolve. I usually run Cyanogen Mod or other Custom ROM but decided to stick with stock on this one (I'm regretting it now). I am on Stock 4.1.2, Build JZ054K and previously had it rooted. I performed the un-root from within SuperSU so that I could apply the latest OTA, but the update still fails saying that my phone is suspected of rooting. At this point I decided to just re-root, stick Clockwork recovery on and move to Cyanogen Mod but so far every root method I've tried has failed.
Right now I am unable to OTA upgrade because it thinks it's still rooted and I can't re-root for some reason. I can't get a good Titanium Backup to save all of my data since it's not rooted and I have about exhausted my options and was about to do a factory reset when I thought about seeing if someone might have any ideas I could try.
Here are my re-root attempts (I've used every method I could find): I decided to boot into one of my Windows partitions instead of Linux since most of the root methods were windows based and with the E980-Universal-Root attempt: it found the device attached in Charge Mode, I then changed it to MTP and hit Enter (after waiting a few minutes as recommended in a number of the threads), then it it displays "adbd cannot run as root in production builds" and fails. I then tried the ZV9-ZVB-Root method (it looks like it's the same as the Universal Root and it gave the same error also). Then I attempted the motochopper method: it found the device, pushed the exploit successfully, pushed root tools successfully said it was rooting the phone then it stated [-] Failure and performed cleanup.
I'm not sure where to go from here, so I was hoping that some of the experts here could point me in a direction to go before I have to wipe it and lose my data since I can't even perform a Titanium Backup now.
I've been trying other backup methods but haven't found one that will give me a good backup like Titanium (saving the apps and data). If I can't get it rooted, does anyone know of a backup method that I could use to save the individual apps and data? Then I can just do a factory reset, root and move to a custom recovery and ROM like I really should have done at the beginning.
Thanks for any help at all, it is much appreciated!!
Check out the app called Helium (made by the same developer as clockworkmod and Rom manager and was formerly called Carbon). It should allow you to backup without root.
Also, look up the root method called towel root if you haven't yet. It will be an app that you install and it roots from there. I used it to root the latest update.
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Many thanks!! I hadn't run across towel root, I'll do some searching and find it and give it a try. I had just looked at Helium earlier today, that might just save me a huge hassle if towel root doesn't work!
Thanks again!!
Thank-You CapnPez!
TowelRoot worked fine, I can now update my Titanium Backups and move to CM...
Many Thanks! I appreciate the recommendation!!
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Thank-You CapnPez!
TowelRoot worked fine, I can now update my Titanium Backups and move to CM...
Many Thanks! I appreciate the recommendation!!
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You're quite welcome and I'm glad it worked!
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