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Hello.
Is there any way to obtain the TouchFLO usability from the new HTC Touch, into Universal? I don't think there are any hardware changes as to how the screen handles finger moves and clicks.
Maybe any plans on a new WM6 Rom for Universal that might support it?
If yes, would it be the whole Touch interface, including dark gray apearance, etc?
Thanks people.
EDIT: Just read about the first TouchFlo Rom (Ivan i Think), but there is lack of feedback as for the usability of the Touch feature, or the dark grey today theme/caller apearance... Any help?
there are hardware changes
Yep, the hardware of HTC touch is different which enables it to do some 'gestures' on the screen. So, all we can 'taste' is the today plugin which it uses
Thank you both for your responses. Midlet, I have user your ROMs before.
However, I don't understand what the changed might be, since "drag n' drop" finger actions are possible in Universal or any other PPC (for example, using the finger to move an icon in some other place, on "Spb Pocket Plus Today Plugin"...
Any specific info on Why "HTC Touch" is different (apart from the LCD protective material which -just a guess- may be a little more matte, in order for the finger to easily move on it) on this device?
Still, I can't figure out why a finger gesture needs extra/changed hardware. I would understand it if it accepted more than one touches at the same time, but this?...
Thanks...
hi were can i download the cab file for the today pluggin screen like from touch?
you might try this http://www.mobiletopsoft.com/board/2...pocket-pc.html but you need to have WM6 installed. You are not alone others want this interface as well. I have the same question in the Universa general forum
when i click the link it wont forward me. wats the search name of the pluggin? thanks
I think you can get an answer here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=323013
In WM5 there was a registry entry that determined the sensitivity of the touchscreen. I found it useful to increase the sensitivity since I use a screen protector.
Now I'm using WM6, and that registry key doesn't exist. Anybody have a clue how it can be done?
Would be interested in this too
TheForce222 said:
Would be interested in this too
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What he said ^^^
any one care to share if u know this...i find the touch sensitivity is not very good...i always have to press twice to get it right
I always thought that this was a big problem in porting the TouchFLO things to the Hermes, because the hermes doesnt have a pressure-sensitive Touch Screen?
but hell, prove me wrong
swedbass said:
In WM5 there was a registry entry that determined the sensitivity of the touchscreen. I found it useful to increase the sensitivity since I use a screen protector.
Now I'm using WM6, and that registry key doesn't exist. Anybody have a clue how it can be done?
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What is the tweak for WM5? Can you share it with us?
I have not heared about it before.
I also need it as I use screen protector too.
Thanks and regards
Isn't the sensitivity adjusted when you do the screen alignment in Settings -> System -> Screen according to your pressure?
swedbass said:
In WM5 there was a registry entry that determined the sensitivity of the touchscreen. I found it useful to increase the sensitivity since I use a screen protector.
Now I'm using WM6, and that registry key doesn't exist. Anybody have a clue how it can be done?
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Is it top secret that you do not want to share ?
What is the tweak in wm5 please ?
HKLM/SOFTWARE/Drivers/Touch
Inside there is a key named 'Pressure Threshold' which you can modify (remember ONLY to increase it, decreasing it may result a non responding touchscreen)
jolas said:
HKLM/SOFTWARE/Drivers/Touch
Inside there is a key named 'Pressure Threshold' which you can modify (remember ONLY to increase it, decreasing it may result a non responding touchscreen)
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Thank you very much
Regards
jolas said:
HKLM/SOFTWARE/Drivers/Touch
Inside there is a key named 'Pressure Threshold' which you can modify (remember ONLY to increase it, decreasing it may result a non responding touchscreen)
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I Flashed i-mate WM5 Rom and the Reg Key dos not exist.
Can you tell me exactly the path and values
Thanks and regards
shafez said:
Thank you very much
Regards
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Go to HKLM/Drivers/TouchPanel/Pressure Threshold (Tested on HTC Touch)
I changed from 11000 to 12000 for testing and I feel some sensitivity icrease. I thought a lower figure would rather increase it because it is a threashold? Others should test and give feed back
i tried to look for this and cant find touchpanel, any ideas??
kidd78 said:
i tried to look for this and cant find touchpanel, any ideas??
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Try
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Drivers\TouchPanel
and u should find it.
I do not have this on the Offical Release there is no HKLM/DRIVERS/Touch
sorry maybe its just not an option unless someone else can find it? I'll do some more looking soon,
yup no touchpanel on this so bit stumped here
victoradjei said:
Go to HKLM/Drivers/TouchPanel/Pressure Threshold (Tested on HTC Touch)
I changed from 11000 to 12000 for testing and I feel some sensitivity icrease. I thought a lower figure would rather increase it because it is a threashold? Others should test and give feed back
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KEYWORD THERE: TESTED ON HTC TOUCH
The Touch has a different Touchscreen than the TyTN ALLOWING for Pressure Sensitivity.
The Hermes has no such screen, its either touched, or not.
not touched at what pressure
sorryy
my default value is decimal 9175....how come ur is so high 11000??anyway i changed mine to 12000 also...i dont feel any difference at all on my touch...sad
stan23 said:
Isn't the sensitivity adjusted when you do the screen alignment in Settings -> System -> Screen according to your pressure?
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Anyone know if this is true?
if this dos not exist in the hermes registry then why is it in the hermes forum? this is more than confusing. I don't understand why people with the HTC Touch/Elf are posting there results here. maybe it came up on a search and they didn't relize this was the hermes forum? in any case MODS should move this if there is nothing relivant to the hermes.
TouchLockPro is a general purpose locking program, which also works on the Touch HD.
See TouchLockPro thread for more details.
Version 2.0
I uploaded version 2.0, which fixes some (small) issues and added some features, like unlocking when sliding the keyboard out (if available). See Version 2.0
[APP][Updated 11-01-2009] TouchLockPro version 2.1
I just uploaded TouchLockPro version 2.1. Hope this version is again more perfect.
TouchLockPro is indeed great. However, on the HD, I find its use limited, as there is no good unlocking mechanism in place. I keep it installed for the BattClock, but I simply can't get comfortable with having to pull out the stylus to unlock, or wave the phone in front of a light source. (The HD light sensor doesn't seem very reliable.)
Heck I admit it, I often surf with Opera in bed, in the dark - the stylus is the only unlocking option, and it annoys me.
If TouchLockPro could get a touch gesture unlock, like PocketShield or ThrottleLock, I'd be happy. There doesn't even have to be a UI - as long as it's fast and reliable.
ThrottleLock appears to late (I can interact with the screen before the ThrottleLock asks for the gesture), otherwise it would be mighty fine.
PocketShield is much better in this respect. I just can't get it to work comfortably with answering the phone. I've hung up on so many calls now, unintentionally, that my wife told be to FIX IT.
ugumba said:
TouchLockPro is indeed great. However, on the HD, I find its use limited, as there is no good unlocking mechanism in place. I keep it installed for the BattClock, but I simply can't get comfortable with having to pull out the stylus to unlock, or wave the phone in front of a light source. (The HD light sensor doesn't seem very reliable.)
Heck I admit it, I often surf with Opera in bed, in the dark - the stylus is the only unlocking option, and it annoys me.
If TouchLockPro could get a touch gesture unlock, like PocketShield or ThrottleLock, I'd be happy. There doesn't even have to be a UI - as long as it's fast and reliable.
ThrottleLock appears to late (I can interact with the screen before the ThrottleLock asks for the gesture), otherwise it would be mighty fine.
PocketShield is much better in this respect. I just can't get it to work comfortably with answering the phone. I've hung up on so many calls now, unintentionally, that my wife told be to FIX IT.
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Indeed my next highest priority is implementing a gesture to unlock using the GSENSOR, which was already on the TODO list. You could consider to use LockTouchPanelOnly=1, so the hardware keys are not locked and couple a command to a hardware key: "TouchLockAction.exe" unlock. Of course there is a chance that the hardware buttons are pressed in that case, when it is in you pocket. Other people using TouchLockPro in combination with Phone Canvas. They use TouchLockPro for general locking and unlock the phone automatically by TouchLockPro when there is an incoming call: commandCallIncoming = "TouchLockAction.exe unlock"
TouchLockPro 2.2.1 with GSENSOR support for unlocking
I just uploaded TouchLockPro 2.2.1 with GSENSOR support for unlocking.
TouchLockPro version 2.3
TouchLockPro version 2.3 is available.
Hi,
This seems to be a great app. But I have a serious problem.
Right after installation I get the messages
“ a problem has occurred with touchlockpro.exe”
And then after a soft reset the messages
“ Could not create TouchPanel Hook.“ Comes up and the application fails to start.
.
Do you have any idea what the problem might be?
HTC Touch HD
WM 6.1
ROM Version : 1.14.421.5
Radio version : 1.09.25.14
Regards
Henk
Nologic said:
Hi,
This seems to be a great app. But I have a serious problem.
Right after installation I get the messages
“ a problem has occurred with touchlockpro.exe”
And then after a soft reset the messages
“ Could not create TouchPanel Hook.“ Comes up and the application fails to start.
.
Do you have any idea what the problem might be?
HTC Touch HD
WM 6.1
ROM Version : 1.14.421.5
Radio version : 1.09.25.14
Regards
Henk
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Hi Henk,
which version did you install? the latest version 2.7.3?
I did not get this problem report from other users, and there are a lot of Touch HD users. You can try to set DoubleTouchPanelLock = 0, because some people have problems with this setting.
The "Could not create TouchPanel hook" message means that some other program is running which applies the hook before TouchLockPro can. Which Today screen do you have, TF3D?
You can also enable debug logging LogDebug=1 and post the debug log file \TouchLockPro.log.txt as zipped attachment. Maybe that gives me a clue
Hi,
Wow, quick response. I appreciate it!
Where do I set the “DoubleTouchPanelLock = 0”?
The only application that start up with the phone is TF3D.
I think you might be right, some other application is interfering. Can it be TF3D?
I’ve seen now that I can access the application after start-up from the application menu. It still gives me an error but I can use it.
This is a fantastic application, I will defiantly donate so soon as finances permits
MOD EDIT
Moved to Themes, Applications and Software forum
Hi,
I have Hard Reset my device and installed TouchLockPro. It work perfectly.
Must have been a application somewhere that was the culprit
Thank you
Henk
Nologic said:
Hi,
I have Hard Reset my device and installed TouchLockPro. It work perfectly.
Must have been a application somewhere that was the culprit
Thank you
Henk
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Hi Henk,
good to hear that your problem is solved
*NEW* Zoombar unlocking also working on HD???
TouchLockPro version 2.9 now also has a *NEW* Zoombar unlocking. I expect this is also working for the HD. Could someone confirm it is actually working Because I cannot test on HD.
My expectation is that it works also on HD, because it works on Touch Pro 2 and Diamond 2.
I couldn't get the zoom bar working on the Touch PRo 2... I know it wasn't the question asked but worth mentioning.
some of the functionality seems not to work on the touch pro 2 with the telstra roms.
Okay, so i've searched all over and i can't seems to find anyone else shared this tips before. My apology if i made a mistake on my searching though
So i picked this up from the X1 thread quite a while ago, can't remember who posted it first. This tweak should make your screen a lot more responsive and you dont need to press the screen hard the whole time to do stuff.
1. Get MS Compact Framework 3.5 Here
2. Get Schaaps Advance Config Tool Here
3. Scroll down to HTC TouchFLo
4. Change the pressure threshold to custom -> Click -> Change the value to 999999999 (nine 9s)
5. Change the finger pressure to 999999999 (nine 9s)
6. Done, soft reset.
Your screen should be (almost) as good as capacitive screen now (except for the multi touch of course)
cheers.
p.s All this was done in stock Touch Pro 2 ROM WWE Asia 1.19.707.2
What I do is go into a registry editor and go to
HKLM\Drivers\TouchPanel\PressureThreshold =65000 (the higher, the more sensitive)
That's good enough for me! But for those who don't like the reg tweaks, it's good that you posted that.
yea, this is for those people who doesn't like dwelling into registry (my kind of people )
enjoy it folks
sumflipnol said:
HKLM\Drivers\TouchPanel\PressureThreshold =65000
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Is that in Decimal Value? Mine says 61
Mesquire said:
Is that in Decimal Value? Mine says 61
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am curious of that myself. mine was set to 53 . i took the plunge and set it to 65 and noticed no ill effects so far
Decreasing the value is the way to go . I've got mine working with a value of 0 and screen responsiveness (particularly with on-screen keyboard) is tremendous! No more missed swipes and touches. In fact, the screen is showing up the slowness of the TP2 in certain applications (caches on-screen key presses where program eventually catches up with what you entered).
SC07 TP2 said:
Decreasing the value is the way to go . I've got mine working with a value of 0 and screen responsiveness (particularly with on-screen keyboard) is tremendous! No more missed swipes and touches. In fact, the screen is showing up the slowness of the TP2 in certain applications (caches on-screen key presses where program eventually catches up with what you entered).
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please explain how decreasing the screen's sensitivity increases its responsiveness to touch. the whole concept is counter intuitive.
cirrob said:
please explain how decreasing the screen's sensitivity increases its responsiveness to touch. the whole concept is counter intuitive.
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Weird I know, but I've been always told that closer to 0 is more sensitive.
So whats the verdict on if either increasing or decreasing the value increases sensitivity?
Also, I've never messed with my registry on a windows mobile device, and honestly my expirience with it on XP and earlier has been relatively minimal. Are there any toturials on how to open a reg editor in windows mobile? If I rememebr correctly on XP machines you go to start>run>conf
EVOIXGSR said:
So whats the verdict on if either increasing or decreasing the value increases sensitivity?
Also, I've never messed with my registry on a windows mobile device, and honestly my expirience with it on XP and earlier has been relatively minimal. Are there any toturials on how to open a reg editor in windows mobile? If I rememebr correctly on XP machines you go to start>run>conf
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Don't be afraid of the registry! I use MobileRegistryEditor. You can edit the registry from your desktop with your phone plugged in via USB. Viewing the registry on a laptop screen vs. a phone IMO helps to eliminate mistakes and is much quicker.
EVOIXGSR said:
So whats the verdict on if either increasing or decreasing the value increases sensitivity?
Also, I've never messed with my registry on a windows mobile device, and honestly my expirience with it on XP and earlier has been relatively minimal. Are there any toturials on how to open a reg editor in windows mobile? If I rememebr correctly on XP machines you go to start>run>conf
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well i tried both settings and i must say that decreasing it to 0 really did increase the sensitivity.
like i said earlier it is counter intuitive, but it is a noticable difference.
EVOIXGSR said:
So whats the verdict on if either increasing or decreasing the value increases sensitivity?
Also, I've never messed with my registry on a windows mobile device, and honestly my expirience with it on XP and earlier has been relatively minimal. Are there any toturials on how to open a reg editor in windows mobile? If I rememebr correctly on XP machines you go to start>run>conf
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EDIT: its start > run > regedit
and the registry key is called "PressureThreshold"
Threshold means "the smallest detectable sensation"
so in fact, the closest the value to "0", the better (or at least that is what makes sense)
BTW, I do not have an HTC phone, nor Windows Mobile phone, .. but i am planing to buy Touch Pro2, so i read this topic, and felt like explaining the whole thing from an "English" point of view, Lol
cheers
wow, now im confused. I've only done the tweak via the advance config,never via registry. Can it be different?
Before i changed it the value of my pressure threshold was 60000 something, i cant remember, while finger pressure was 0. When i had my xperia,none if this value would shows 0. It seems that both of this value changes if you do the screen calibration thing.
oh and happy new years folks
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wow, now im confused. I've only done the tweak via the advance config,never via registry. Can it be different?
Before i changed it the value of my pressure threshold was 60000 something, i cant remember, while finger pressure was 0. When i had my xperia,none if this value would shows 0. It seems that both of this value changes if you do the screen calibration thing.
oh and happy new years folks
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It shouldn't make a difference, in the configuration i assume you have to touch the screen so the phone calibrate your threshold right?
so i assume you should touch it "lightly" so the phone recognizes your threshold as light, and eventually be more responsive.
EDIT: i have found this, it is related to Touch Pro, ... I dont know wither it applies to Touch Pro2 or not
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=56412
As i said before, I am just talking common sense, nothing from real experience with the actual device as i do not own one, ... yet
happy holiday season!
is this a 6.5 or a 6.1 tweak?
because with 6.5 I discovered that GWE setting for touch it best set @1 rather than 0. this way the htc drivers are doing the work and not the ms...
as for the biotouch setting to zero, this would be turning the htc driver off and just using the ms driver.
(this is my assumption that the two different sets of drivers conflict)
its different? i did it on stock Touch Pro 2 6.1 ROM. Sorry about the missing info,i'll put it up on the first post.
EVOIXGSR said:
So whats the verdict on if either increasing or decreasing the value increases sensitivity?
Also, I've never messed with my registry on a windows mobile device, and honestly my expirience with it on XP and earlier has been relatively minimal. Are there any toturials on how to open a reg editor in windows mobile? If I rememebr correctly on XP machines you go to start>run>conf
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I'm currently testing the "999999999" and it seems pretty sensitive. Will test on a couple more apps before trying th "0" input.
Mesquire said:
Is that in Decimal Value? Mine says 61
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Sorry for the lack of info! Yes, it's in Decimal Value.
irkan said:
its start > run > CMD
and the registry key is called "PressureThreshold"
Threshold means "the smallest detectable sensation"
so in fact, the closest the value to "0", the better (or at least that is what makes sense)
BTW, I do not have an HTC phone, nor Windows Mobile phone, .. but i am planing to buy Touch Pro2, so i read this topic, and felt like explaining the whole thing from an "English" point of view, Lol
cheers
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Well I found the registry tweak I posted (post2) from a different forum. I found that the stock ROM's settings had the decimal value at 15000. When I brought it up (as the instructions said the higher the better) to 65000, I noticed that screen sensitivity increased.
I'll try "0" later on.
As for the Advanced Config settings, the Pressure Threshold setting in Advanced Config controls the registry setting I posted in post2.
UPDATE: In HKLM\Drivers\Touch Panel\PressureThreshold, in the Decimal Value I tried "0" for 2 hours. I then switched to "100000" for 2 hours. IMO, "100000" was way more sensitive for me; "0" was very resisitive to my motions.
Hmmm ... I have mobile 6.5 wwe t-mobile tp2
Navigate to or search for:
HKLM/Drivers/TouchPanel/PressureThreshold
and
HKLM/Software/OEM/TFLOSettings/FingerPressure
If you wana test how mobile figures out how to set it ..
goto: settings / system / screen / align screen
and run the alignment test ..
If I PRESS REALLY HARD EVERYTIME I get ..
fingerpressure 22
pressurethreshold 48
If I PRESS REALLY SOFT EVERYTIME I get ..
fingerpressure 26
pressurethreshold 57
So ...
If I Set BOTH to 10 it should make it harder to push / scroll ???
and I Set BOTH to 100 it should make it easier to push / scroll ???
Because I change them and it doesnt really seem to make a difference
What do you guys get when you run the screen test and let mobile figure it out ?
WarlockW said:
Hmmm ... I have mobile 6.5 wwe t-mobile tp2
Navigate to or search for:
HKLM/Drivers/TouchPanel/PressureThreshold
and
HKLM/Software/OEM/TFLOSettings/FingerPressure
If you wana test how mobile figures out how to set it ..
goto: settings / system / screen / align screen
and run the alignment test ..
If I PRESS REALLY HARD EVERYTIME I get ..
fingerpressure 22
pressurethreshold 48
If I PRESS REALLY SOFT EVERYTIME I get ..
fingerpressure 26
pressurethreshold 57
So ...
If I Set BOTH to 10 it should make it harder to push / scroll ???
and I Set BOTH to 100 it should make it easier to push / scroll ???
Because I change them and it doesnt really seem to make a difference
What do you guys get when you run the screen test and let mobile figure it out ?
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I didn't do a screen test, but for the set both to 10/100:
Make a greater difference. Example: set both to 10. Then for comparison, set both to 10000. With the greater difference between 10 and 10000, you should see a greater difference in the behavior of the screen.
EDIT: I did the "test" for the screen.
Results (hard test):
Finger Pressure: 21
Pressure Threshold: 48
Results (soft test):
Finger Pressure: 24
Pressure Threshold: 54
So I guess, the higher the numbers, the more sensitive it would have to be?
I ported the XDANDROID to my T-Mobile model Touch Pro 2 last night and overall I like it.
however, I cannot figure out how to correctly map my slide out keyboard to the correct keys.
I have read several similar posts, but truth be told the lingo is a bit advanced for me.
I also cannot get my touch screen keyboard to open any more. it worked for a bit and then I probably changed a setting and now it doesn work. I tried to figure out what setting I changed and couldn't correct it.
Any ideas or help would be great.
Thanks
Rob
BUMP... Please help
If Froyo: look under your battery, find the RHODxx0 model number (Tmobile might be rhod210, not sure), and then move the appropriate startup.txt file to your root directory from FRX06/Startups/RHOD/
I'm pretty sure if you have the right startup.txt, you'll have the right keyboard mapping.
Also be sure to bookmark this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=980079 and refer to it and the threads it links to often. Very helpful.