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Hey everyone,
Just received my Desire today, think it is an awesome phone except I have one little niggle and I'm not sure if it's just me. When I'm in the 'All programs' view if I flick the list down towards the bottom there is noticeable lag. It's weird, it only happens when it reaches the bottom but it clearly stutters and jogs a bit as it gets to the end.
Weird thing is I havn't really noticed it anywhere else in the phone. Does anyone else with the phone have this issue? It's one of the first things I noticed when I opened it and all the reviews I've seen have not mentioned any lag at all so I don't think its right!
Thanks
I notice lag when I'm running at near to 0 mb Ram left, so it could be you have too many Apps open! :O - All other times its smooth.
A shutdown+turn on (restart) would be the bes tway to end all those applications that didnt actually close.
Or install something like Advanced App Killer and just kill off unwanted processes that way.
Thanks for the replies, I havn't tried restarting the phone but I do have the Advanced App Killer and it happens even when I've just killed everything. :\
It seems to happen much more when scrolling down, not up. What software version do you both have? Mine is 1.15.161.4, I'm wondering if it is a software issue because I havn't noticed it except on this programs screen.
Its only very slight, if you start from the top of the apps list, and scroll fast all the way down, the last row has a slight lag.
But really, the reason no reviews or anyone has not mentioned this is because its a none issue. You only see it if you go looking for it and its so slight the majority of people reading this thread will have no idea what you're talking about.
I've never noticed that, but now that I try it, I have the same thing. And I do kill my apps on a regular basis.
Must be some sort of minor bug. Doesn't bother me though.
http://geekfor.me/faq/you-shouldnt-be-using-a-task-killer-with-android
Could this be your answer..
skanj said:
http://geekfor.me/faq/you-shouldnt-be-using-a-task-killer-with-android
Could this be your answer..
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That article describes how Android should work, unfortunately it doesn't exactly work that way. There are plenty of apps that leak memory as well as devs using all sorts of undocumented API calls that make apps work in different way than intended.
It's not RAM am sure of it was the same on the hero when you got near the bottom it lagged , funny thing when you use launcher 2.1 like on Nexus one its as smooth as butter in the programs menu, I wish they had used it in Sense as it looks far better.
I wonder if any genius out there can get it working in sense and replace HTC's standard one.
I don't have the Desire, but on the Hero the scrolling slows down at the end, before it stops. What do you mean by lags? like hangs for a second or something? or snaps at the end before it stops?
A video can help.
It could be that HTC need to look into the code there.
salahag said:
I don't have the Desire, but on the Hero the scrolling slows down at the end, before it stops. What do you mean by lags? like hangs for a second or something? or snaps at the end before it stops?
A video can help.
It could be that HTC need to look into the code there.
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What happens is that if I scroll down fairly quickly a few lines before the bottom there is a sort of shudder and slow down. It's a bit jittery, but it was something I noticed after I had only been using the phone a few minutes. Someone else I've shown it to notices it as well.
However Ive also just noticed that there is one single spec of dust under the screen right in the middle! Because of that I might just see if I can get a replacement. Would it be something to ask the carrier or HTC?
Its just not as smooth is the best way i can explain, it did exactly the same thing on the hero, as you start scrolling down all is fine then when you hit the bottom it could be called a tiny bit of slow down, like if you was gaming and the frame rate drops slightly so you lose the smoothness.
When i enable the 2.1 launcher its as smooth as anything and it is a far better looking apps system out of the two , i still say the same i would like to see this enabled in sense.
There was a vid on Youtube where people asked a guy doing Desire vids about this issue. His opinion was:
'it does not really lag. It is more like the system slows it down because it wants to'
Now on my HD2 when I scroll trough the start menu, it also stops on purpose(looks smooth though). On the Desire however I agree it looks more like lag then anything else..
Now that I think of it, I think I have seen this issue on every phone running Android.
Just try to ignore this issue I would say
I Dont have any such issue on mine.
XDA mark said:
There was a vid on Youtube where people asked a guy doing Desire vids about this issue. His opinion was:
'it does not really lag. It is more like the system slows it down because it wants to'
Now on my HD2 when I scroll trough the start menu, it also stops on purpose(looks smooth though). On the Desire however I agree it looks more like lag then anything else..
Now that I think of it, I think I have seen this issue on every phone running Android.
Just try to ignore this issue I would say
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I tend to use the 2.1 launcher as i prefer it to the sense look, its fine with that launcher its only when sense is enabled.
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I tend to use the 2.1 launcher as i prefer it to the sense look, its fine with that launcher its only when sense is enabled.
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Ok nice to know. Another reason to try Stock 2.1 once I get my Desire But with Stock 2.1 on the Desire, you get 7 home screens right? (normal 2.1 aka just turning of Sense, not flashing stock rom or something)
Has anybody found a sloution for this yet (apart from getting rid of sense that i quite like so i want to keep it)??
It's a damn shame 'cause it seems to be the only place where the phone slows down and as it's quite a common place to be it really bugs me!!!
I have similar lag.
Posting a vid that shows it.
Movie is only 30 fps, so its not that clear as it seems IRL.
youtube.com/watch?v=3UAO-eyhFmY
( copy/paste it, cant post links o.o )
dastalker said:
I have similar lag.
Posting a vid that shows it.
Movie is only 30 fps, so its not that clear as it seems IRL.
youtube.com/watch?v=3UAO-eyhFmY
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Quite hard to discern from the video as you mention but seems the same issue I originally posted about. On mine though it only really happens when you do a rapid scroll over a long distance, i.e. just holding my finger there and scrolling up and down as you did in the video seems fine to me. If i scroll quickly though and let it go just before the bottom it does a little jump and then keeps going again.
After using the device for a couple of weeks now, I agree with what someone else posted that its not lag but a bug. I think there is a problem with the algorithm that controls the slow down at the end, because for me it is a very noticeable jump that happens and seems to be artificial, not because the device can't handle the scroll.
yup same here,
i noticed a small lag when scrolling down in the program menu, the funny thing is... it didn't have that when i first got it.
Its when i started to put some progs on it, that it began to lag (or whatever you want to call it)
I've noticed that after the first few words while typing in ANY application, the keyboard for Nexus starts to lag behind the actual texting, you can feel it clearly half way through the first time, and by the 3rd line, I can type in 3 words before it registers on screen.... this is pretty problematic considering I'm still new to typing so I'm not typing that fast.
I actually like the spacing for this new keyboard, although I hate how I don't have commas, apostrophe's and question marks as a hold option on the first screen, if I wanted a keyboard that I had to press a key to access punctuation, I would've gotten an Iphone
xupru said:
.... although I hate how I don't have commas, apostrophe's and question marks as a hold option on the first screen, if I wanted a keyboard that I had to press a key to access punctuation, I would've gotten an Iphone
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huh? if i long hold on the period, i get those punctuation options - no need to press the ?123 key...
I sometimes have slight lag, usually a few letters behind. Its really annoying.
Same issues here...tried many roms with all wipes/reset...different keyboards...turning off haptic/sound/auto complete...flashing kernels...
I'm coming from HTC phones most recently the EVO3d and I gotta say Ive never experienced any keyboard lags ever...EVERYTHING was smooth as silk even with the heavy sense UI and bloated with apps...the HTCEVO3d ran flawlessly %99 of the time...
I switched to the s2 mainly because of the size and samsungs gorgeous displays but at the moment I am regretting it...this s2 is suppose to be one of the best phones in the world...I am severely disapointed so far though I am convinced this thing will fly once set up properly...
Im just ripping my last hairs out at the moment...I feel like Ive tried everything...right now I am in love with my MIUI rom setup and really want to stay but it is useless to me if I cant whip off any emails or texts without the keyboard stuttering...ANyone have ANY more ideas?
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I sometimes have slight lag, usually a few letters behind. Its really annoying.
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I have frequent short lags also. It'll hang on some letter for a short time.
I've had the same problem with the old stock keyboard on Gingerbread (sgs2) as well.
Galaxy Nexus->TapaTalk
I never have any keyboard lag in any application.. And I never have.. ever :/
Known issue where it lags in landscape - fixed in 4.0.3.
in which app does it lag? i tried browser, messaging, gtalk and google search and had zero lag.
i do remember though that when i was running stock, i'd get a slight lag in the browser when typing in the web address.
4.0.3 bigxie + franco seems to be absolutely lag-free re the keyboard, so give it a try maybe?
omersak said:
in which app does it lag? i tried browser, messaging, gtalk and google search and had zero lag.
i do remember though that when i was running stock, i'd get a slight lag in the browser when typing in the web address.
4.0.3 bigxie + franco seems to be absolutely lag-free re the keyboard, so give it a try maybe?
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It is just 4.0.3 in general, not just that rom so any will work!
I have the issue in both portrait and landscape. Seems like if the app has a lot of text in it, it lags more. Search is fine for me, but gtalk, gplus, email etc lag to hell. Right now i have slight lag. I hate it because I'm also new to a virtual keyboard. Turnig off autocorrect doesnt help either. Apparently autocorrect just shut off here for no reason.
So 4.0.3 fixes this?
Don't turn off auto-correct, turn off spell checking (different feature).
Hi,
Did you ever find out what was causing this issue?
I've got the same lag issue on my new tablet.
Thanks!
Turn off gesture typing trail. It takes some time to get used to it, but it is definitely faster.
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Hey guys,
Anyone else experiencing their phone to be slightly slower AT times then when on Sense 4.0? Just sometimes my home screen and other parts of the system will just feel generally slower. The camera seems slower and the 'Developer Options' are really glitch now true. Tell the screen to flash when there is an update and the whole system becomes unresponsive. Really can't understand it..
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jaaystott said:
Hey guys,
Anyone else experiencing their phone to be slightly slower AT times then when on Sense 4.0? Just sometimes my home screen and other parts of the system will just feel generally slower. The camera seems slower and the 'Developer Options' are really glitch now true. Tell the screen to flash when there is an update and the whole system becomes unresponsive. Really can't understand it..
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well, you are the first one from whom i have heard that after installing sense 4.1 your phone is slower...
mate 4.1 is lot faster than sense 4.0 and is locked at 60 fps
try factory reset once and check if these problems still exist
have been using sense 4.1 for more than 2 weeks now and just loving it
Actually it is away faster in the screen switching, it is extremly smooth. However the app drawer lags alittle.
But overall it's faster.
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Wooow, this guy have sg3 and hox..
Am right? Lucky Boy.
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jaaystott said:
Hey guys,
Anyone else experiencing their phone to be slightly slower AT times then when on Sense 4.0? Just sometimes my home screen and other parts of the system will just feel generally slower. The camera seems slower and the 'Developer Options' are really glitch now true. Tell the screen to flash when there is an update and the whole system becomes unresponsive. Really can't understand it..
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Try a factory reset or if your rooted with a custom recovery just format cache and dalvic cache. Then Give the phone 2 full charges from at least 20% in at least a 2 day span.
It could be a bad app or mod that is causing the issues. Usually it's never a bad ota update that slows the device. Also I recommend a backup program.
mzaza said:
Actually it is away faster in the screen switching, it is extremly smooth. However the app drawer lags alittle.
But overall it's faster.
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The app drawer would only lag if you have a large amount of apps installed. Maybe get rid of ones you don't use
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Not so great after all...
While I don't notice that my phone is any slower after the update to 4.1, the update hasn't solved my WiFi issue. Which I wasn't really expecting it to, but they did say it should even out the signal, it hasn't. I couldn't tell the difference about the 3D widget stacking or whatever on the stock launcher, 'nor could I notice a difference when opening the app drawer or swiping through homescreens.
That is not to say that the update didn't do anything. I know that benchmarks don't prove much of anything, some argue that they do. I don't really care too much for them, but out of curiosity sake, I ran some. Now, my phone is bone stock, I can't unlock the bootloader because my volume rocker cable is broken. So I'm not rooted, nothing. With Sense 4.0 and Android 4.0.3 I scored horribly, worse than the One X in the stats, at about 3900. I don't know what was going on, but I ran that twice and got the same result. Anyway, after the update to 4.1 and 4.0.4 I scored 5928 and that is with Apex Launcher and Holo Locker locked in memory.
Take from the benchmarks what you will! The 4.1 update does not work miracles, but it's a step in the right direction!
Brett610 said:
'nor could I notice a difference when opening the app drawer or swiping through homescreens.
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You can't be serious here?
Home screen smoothness is silky smooth on stock launcher now, the performance improvement was MASSIVE on home screens.
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chrisjcks said:
You can't be serious here?
Home screen smoothness is silky smooth on stock launcher now, the performance improvement was MASSIVE on home screens.
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I am very serious, I found it to be very smooth to begin with on 4.0... I didn't have my screens filled with lots of widgets or shortcuts though. That might make a difference. I haven't tried using a livewallpaper yet either. I do notice that Recent Apps seems to be a lot smoother, but with the stock launcher, I don't see much. The app drawer might be quicker to open than before.
jaaystott said:
Hey guys,
Anyone else experiencing their phone to be slightly slower AT times then when on Sense 4.0? Just sometimes my home screen and other parts of the system will just feel generally slower. The camera seems slower and the 'Developer Options' are really glitch now true. Tell the screen to flash when there is an update and the whole system becomes unresponsive. Really can't understand it..
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I'd run an RUU.
We should start writing "marked" everytime we find trolls.
So whisky dont have to read entire thread to close it.
MARKED
Enviado desde mi HTC One X
dragonesdenano said:
Wooow, this guy have sg3 and hox..
Am right? Lucky Boy.
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Most certainly are right started off with a One X, got rid of it due to all the WiFi problems and other things coming to light, then picked up another one because the GS3 is so boring, but now I have both.
What I will say is what I am experiencing is not all the time every second, its just sometimes.. I'll have a quick go resetting and messing about, thanks for the suggestions guys.
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2.17 is brisk
try to wipe or free some space on your SD card
I'm experiencing the same after my ota - its great that the menu bar has gone but the home screen and recent apps just feel a bit sluggish.
For example, when opening recent apps, the current app will appear but other apps to the left of it appear after a slight delay. Swiping home screens is definitely more sluggish here; before ota it was a bit jerky (when swiping, home screen would occasionally jump from one position to another, but in general they followed finger location exactly), but now they lag slightly behind my finger, and instead of jumping positions they pause for a moment and then continue to move smoothly. I think this could be caused by the business calendar app though, it usually only happens on that page...
The problem with the launcher closing when a few apps are open is still just as bad as it was before (and still takes about 15-20 seconds to load the launcher again, which does seem a bit excessive...)
But despite the complaining above, it's really not the end of the world and I don't think it's worth bothering to do a factory reset and see if it works although I'm gradually growing to hate sense and might build up the courage to root and flash some experimental roms soon...
slishak said:
I'm experiencing the same after my ota - its great that the menu bar has gone but the home screen and recent apps just feel a bit sluggish.
For example, when opening recent apps, the current app will appear but other apps to the left of it appear after a slight delay. Swiping home screens is definitely more sluggish here; before ota it was a bit jerky (when swiping, home screen would occasionally jump from one position to another, but in general they followed finger location exactly), but now they lag slightly behind my finger, and instead of jumping positions they pause for a moment and then continue to move smoothly. I think this could be caused by the business calendar app though, it usually only happens on that page...
The problem with the launcher closing when a few apps are open is still just as bad as it was before (and still takes about 15-20 seconds to load the launcher again, which does seem a bit excessive...)
But despite the complaining above, it's really not the end of the world and I don't think it's worth bothering to do a factory reset and see if it works although I'm gradually growing to hate sense and might build up the courage to root and flash some experimental roms soon...
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Well, recents apps loads of moves perfectly.
Home screens are silky smooth.
If your not getting that, go install a RUU and fix it.
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slishak said:
I'm experiencing the same after my ota - its great that the menu bar has gone but the home screen and recent apps just feel a bit sluggish.
For example, when opening recent apps, the current app will appear but other apps to the left of it appear after a slight delay. Swiping home screens is definitely more sluggish here; before ota it was a bit jerky (when swiping, home screen would occasionally jump from one position to another, but in general they followed finger location exactly), but now they lag slightly behind my finger, and instead of jumping positions they pause for a moment and then continue to move smoothly. I think this could be caused by the business calendar app though, it usually only happens on that page...
The problem with the launcher closing when a few apps are open is still just as bad as it was before (and still takes about 15-20 seconds to load the launcher again, which does seem a bit excessive...)
But despite the complaining above, it's really not the end of the world and I don't think it's worth bothering to do a factory reset and see if it works although I'm gradually growing to hate sense and might build up the courage to root and flash some experimental roms soon...
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Hi,
Had the same problem. Turns out at least on my device after update to 2.17 the dev option "Don't keep activities" was ticked.
I know it wasn't before.
Wonder if it was a battery saving measure. Anyway made my phone sluggish so I turned it off, all back to normal.
Cheers
So one problem i get whenever i either play pokemon go or try out a 360 video is that this annoying black cursor pops up. Now if it was just there i wouldn't mind but constantly takes up inputs i have to repeatedly tap my phone to get anything done. Also it makes it so I can't hold a pokeball in the game and if I do i won't be able to fling it anymore. It doesn't seem to pop up on all ar things because when i tried and ar app it didnt show up and everything went fine. I am on DU right now but i had the same problem on cm too.
unfortunately, I'm not allowed to post pictures yet so here's a link
i.imgur.com/zP86L7C.png
Did you make any progress on this? I'm having the exact same problem. Was on CM and now on DU like you too, same problem on both. This makes Pokémon Go unplayable for me.
Check out 20 ROMs post on the android m8 section. On page 89 David has cooked a ROM with the pokemon VR touch fix.
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Thanks @jxcorex28, but I went the route of flashing a sense rom (LeeDroid) instead, which I don't mind using for now.
Just starting out with the Fire Phone, unlocked version being used with T-Mobile.
Found the YouTube instructional video for loading the Google Play Store and got it to work fine after about 27 updates to the phone and store downloaded.
After trying a half dozen different launchers, went back to the stock version as seemed to work the smoothest and couldn't get any others to do what I wanted anyway.
Questions for current users:
1. Phone gets warmer than any phone I've used before. Is this normal?
2. Any way to dock a useful time/date widget and a weather widget on the home screen (or front of the Carousel)?
3. Any way to get rid of or minimize the mostly useless Carousel without using a different launcher? I'd rather see my wallpaper and place a few icons around the screen, then it'd be perfect.
4. If no way to remove the Carousel without using a different launcher, is there a launcher that gives a simple, clean interface and the ability to have your own wallpaper, a date/time and weather widget on home screen, and standard icon and icon folder placement ability? None of the ones I tried gave me that. I find it bizarre that custom wallpaper is not a standard option on every single launcher.
5. Battery life is pretty bad. Walking around for just about two hours yesterday playing Pokemon Go drained my 100% battery entirely. Is that normal?
6. I'm seeing people mention "turning off fancy stuff" and the like in threads here to improve battery life, but cannot find where anyone says what specifically to turn off or how to turn it off...help?
7. Any way to customize the left-hand tilt menu? It is mostly useless links...the "Music" link doesn't even go to Prime Music -- what's up with that? I'd like to customize what gets launched from the links, but it seems impossible.
8. The "swipe up" back button feature is really annoying as it is so picky and just plain doesn't work in some situations and some apps. Any way to improve it?
9. Any way to tell what apps are currently running to close some? My last phone would show the list if you held down the main button, but this phone just brings up a microphone service when I do that.
10. Is Alexa on the Fire Phone a junior version? It can't do anything I ask it and I'm used to Alexa from my Fire TV. I want to do stuff like "Alexa Play Adele" or "Alexa What Time is It?" but it just shows the "I can't do that" text. (On a related point...any way to get the "Okay Google..." talking function?)
11. Is the GPS a bit weak? Maps don't always load, rather annoying.
12. When I'm talking on the phone, I can't figure out how to get the screen to turn on again if I have to enter numbers, change speakerphone, or check something. Others phones just automatically turn on when I take it away from my ear, but the screen just stays off with this one. Is there a button to push to get it turn on again?
My primary uses for the phone are Prime Music, the Camera, and texting, so it is really a great phone for me. With more reliable mapping, better battery life, and a good back button, it'd be an excellent phone despite the other above gripes.
If you can help with any of the above questions, that'd be great. Thanks!
Stock launcher very restrictive you'll need a third party one to have custom options. That's not as easy as it sounds as not all support widgets on fire phone. I use lucid launcher which does. Mine doesn't heat up much, and battery life is the best I've had on a phone. Double click button for running app display.
try install custom rom like MIUI, I am using MIUI in my fire phone and its really fun... apart from few minor bugs like switching camera it's a great rom, boost battery time, heat up problem solved and very fast rom as compare to stock rom.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/fire-phone/general/miui-7-6-3-20-fire-phone-t3412344
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Stock launcher very restrictive you'll need a third party one to have custom options. That's not as easy as it sounds as not all support widgets on fire phone. I use lucid launcher which does. Mine doesn't heat up much, and battery life is the best I've had on a phone. Double click button for running app display.
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Thanks, I'll look at Lucid Launcher -- wasn't one of the ones I tried.
kingtymur said:
try install custom rom like MIUI, I am using MIUI in my fire phone and its really fun... apart from few minor bugs like switching camera it's a great rom, boost battery time, heat up problem solved and very fast rom as compare to stock rom.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/fire-phone/general/miui-7-6-3-20-fire-phone-t3412344
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Unfortunately, if I'm understanding other threads, camera function is iffy for everything except FireOS. Since the most important part of this phone is the camera for me (tied with messaging), it looks like I need to stick to stock on that.
Frustrating though as I really like the look of that MIUI 7 you linked. I wish I had time to give it a shot just to see if the camera is still good enough.
Thanks.
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Thanks, I'll look at Lucid Launcher -- wasn't one of the ones I tried.
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I'm using nova and widgets work fine as long as you move the app to /system, but you'll need root for that.
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I'm using nova and widgets work fine as long as you move the app to /system, but you'll need root for that.
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Which unfortunately means camera issues on the Fire, so not good for my situation. :/
FeuerFon said:
Which unfortunately means camera issues on the Fire, so not good for my situation. :/
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Root itself doesn't cause issues with the camera, it's roms other than stock.
Try Nova Launcher With Hd Packs...