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Hello,
First when I hit 'View' to view missed calls, it goes into them, and then I hit X to exit and it takes me to the phone app. Anyway to avoid this?
I like how microsoft just assumes things for us like 'well hes viewing missed calls so he must want to call them back right away'.. absurdity.
My biggest problem though is when I am IN the phone app the X button will not close the app. To get out I have to hit the Red END button, which only minimizes the phone app and that remains in my top taskbar
which is very annoying as the only way to get rid of it is a softreset.
Then if I get another missed call.. back into the phone app.. red button.. now 2 phone apps running.
Any ideas?
I think the missed call screen is a dialog running from and ontop of the phone app, thus it's one app. Closing the phone app itself is only marginally useful, it saves a few 100k of memory, but causes a crash if you try to dial a contact from Contacts.
However, if you must close it, on my site I've got VJTogglePhone (I think) which closes the phone properly, and VJOkButt will also close or minimise it by choice, and do some other stuff.
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Youre a genius! thanks!
I was looking at my HD today and had an idea.
I use a silicone cover/case, and hence it covers the power button (LED light)... so my idea was some sort of visual notification via the display for various items (such as missed call, new SMS, etc.)
This idea comes in part from the Diamond's visual notification via the round circle/d-pad.
I think this would be possible... here is my thinking:
Since the phone already "wakes up" during a call/missed call... and there is the "wake on SMS" option as well -- then after either, have a program change the screen to black (hide TouchFLO or Today Screen), and display a design or color pattern on the screen. I think the program would also have to prevent the screen from going to sleep and/or offer a timer setting for this. In any case, displaying something on the screen to alert you to a missed call... something like a screen saver.
Once a program is created, then the fun part will be creating new designs / patterns / colors for the screen.
Any ideas on this?
Thanks.
Anyone?
Or anyone at least think this is a good idea? Or perhaps, are there other programs out there like this?
Thanks!
I think it's a great idea, to be honest.
With the creativity of people in these forums, it shouldn't be an impossible mission
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I was looking at my HD today and had an idea.
I use a silicone cover/case, and hence it covers the power button (LED light)... so my idea was some sort of visual notification via the display for various items (such as missed call, new SMS, etc.)
This idea comes in part from the Diamond's visual notification via the round circle/d-pad.
I think this would be possible... here is my thinking:
Since the phone already "wakes up" during a call/missed call... and there is the "wake on SMS" option as well -- then after either, have a program change the screen to black (hide TouchFLO or Today Screen), and display a design or color pattern on the screen. I think the program would also have to prevent the screen from going to sleep and/or offer a timer setting for this. In any case, displaying something on the screen to alert you to a missed call... something like a screen saver.
Once a program is created, then the fun part will be creating new designs / patterns / colors for the screen.
Any ideas on this?
Thanks.
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Sounds interesting I wonder how it would be on the battery though. I think it would be nice if the screen would light up but maybe not as bright as the notification on the Raphael but something to that effect. I like the idea though.
i like it too.. i think im gonna try writing something for this one!
Any updates on this one?
Or any one know of any other programs out there that might do something similar. I hate not knowing I have missed calls/SMS.
Thanks all...
I saw in an other post a program that vibrates/sounds the device in a set interval until you acknowledge the missed call/sms.
No idea where it's located, but the search functionallity can do wonders.
I use S2U2, and if I understand your requirements correctly, it does exactly that.
I usually have the phone switched off using the power button (so the screen is blank). If there is a missed call or a new sms, my phone automatically wakes up and S2U2 gives me notifications about new SMS and/or missed call.
Under the Windows power settings, I have the phone configured to turn off backlight after 10 seconds, and the the option 'Turn off device if not used for' option disabled. This makes sure my device does not go back to sleep if there is a missed call or SMS. You also need to have the option to show missed calls and SMS alerts in S2U2 settings enabled. So when a call is missed or new SMS, my phone will be awake with backlight switched off. If I tap on the screen, S2U2 will show my anything I have missed.
I think you also need 'Wake up on new SMS' option enabled in HD Tweak.
PhoneAlarm
Or you can use Phone Alarm, this can be set to repeat alarm noticifcations for missed calls, messages, etc including vibration and sound options for each type of alarm. Also, offers an otpion whether or not the backlight comes on. Have been using this softwarte for years, also provides profile options.
www.pocketmax.net
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Or you can use Phone Alarm, this can be set to repeat alarm noticifcations for missed calls, messages, etc including vibration and sound options for each type of alarm. Also, offers an otpion whether or not the backlight comes on. Have been using this softwarte for years, also provides profile options.
www.pocketmax.net
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Hi, Checked out the Website, Looks Good... Does it work with TF3D??
Tnx
Thanks for the replies,
I actually already use PhoneAlarm from Pocketmax. It works GREAT on my Touch HD. What's neat about it, is that it has an option where it makes a softkey at the bottom to toggle between your Today Screen and TouchFLO.
What exactly I was looking for was some "visual" notification of a missed call/sms. This would be both functional and "cool" to see.
The thought comes from the HTC Diamond, where the light around the d-pad flashes in a circle.
Of course on the Touch HD, the only option would be on the display. So I was thinking of cool screen designs (like a screensaver), where if you had a missed call or SMS, the phone would "wake up" but then show some sort of design.
[As I was typing this I paused at this point and went to research S2U2 more... and I am going to try it out right now -- it does seem to do what I am looking for!]
However, if anyone reads what I mentioned above and has any other ideas (or even a more of a simple program) that would do the same, let us know... THANKS AGAIN EVERYONE!!
-Keith
I installed S2U2 and i didn't find it of any use (My original intention was to install to provide the Iphone Like Slier). I recall it does show you on screen if you have received a text, not sure if their was a visual notification.
I will have to read up on S2U2 and see what other benefits it has.
So many Apps out their that do so many different things, it's like being a kid in a sweetshop. I guess it's about deciding which app to use based on what you need it for.
Nevertheless...Absolutely brilliant work from all those who actually take time out to develop these apps - and can't thank them enough!
Let me know how S2U2 works for you and meanwhile i'll read up on it again
All the best...
I tried phonealarm, but
Heh Keith,
I actually love phonealarm and have used it for years. But now, though I've been in touch with the developer who btw provides excellent cs, I'm quite convinced that PA is causing a heavy battery drain. I've been experimenting with PA on, then uninstall it, reinstall it, etc. Yesterday, started with a full charge and with PA, 5 hours later down to 60%. I was able to uninstall PA with about 60% charge remaining and immediately, the drain stopped. Charge stayed above 60% for the next several hours. BTW, this is on a fuze. I've also checked all settings in PA. The developer says he did note that he saw a big power drop from the PA logs, but couldn't determine what caused it. Curious how PA is working for you.
I just don't get it
So maybe I'm making a fool of myself-talking to myself at least. I just did a whole day's worth of testing with and without PA. Now there seems to be no difference or perhaps just a very little. The only things that I did different this time was loaded PA after I installed all of the other apps (rather than before) and I didn't enable touch flo support. I wonder if that could be it. With touch flo support enabled, then touch flo runs in the background? Did I read that somewhere in another thread?
If you dont want/need all the bells & whistles & want a 'light' program try alarm pal by the same mob as phone alarm.
I've been using it for awhile on the HTC HD.
If I miss a call/sms/mail it plays an alert every few minutes till I acknowledge it.
I figure I am more likely to 'hear' an alert than 'see' an alert
http://www.pocketmax.net/alarmPal.html
I've just upgraded to a Desire coming from a Touch HD (Dutty Holy Grail) and have to say that first impressions are not great. Seriously thinking about returning it but interested to hear other people's experience.
So far moaning about the following problems - well more inconveniences:
- keyboard too jumpy
- can't call contact directly from email
- no hardware button to end call - pain when leave a voice message as need to turn phone on, unlock it and then end call.
- double syncs everything (on exchange server) so that appointment entries appear twice in calendar
- the home screen apps are kind of useless as you basically need to launch the full app to be able to do anything (ie email or sms)
- sms messaging doesn't tell you how many letters you have left
- no messaging in facebook
- headphone volume quiet (and that's with in ear headphones where on my HD I had the volume set to 1!)
- battery life atrocious in comparison. charged my phone last night and had a full charge before going to bed and when I woke up it was at 30%. no wifi or bluetooth on.
Will persevere another few days to make sure that I'm not just a grumpy old fart who hates change....
Take it back then. And my sms shows how many letter i have left.
I'll answer some of your points because a few are valid.
Could you elaborate on calling from emails? You mean the phone picking up that you have a number stored for a contact and allowing you to dial them? I've tried this and it works. You need to be using the HTC mail client, not the Gmail one.
"no hardware button to end call - pain when leave a voice message as need to turn phone on, unlock it and then end call."
I couldn't reproduce this use case at all. Your screen locks while you're in a call? A SHORT call too? Or are you just positing a use case you THINK could happen? The screen goes blank when you raise it to your ear and turns back on when you take it away...what you describe can't happen.
If you've got double syncing then there's a configuration error. Elaborate. How did you set it up? Are you syncing with your work email or a webmail account?
The home screen "apps" are not apps, they're widgets, and function like every other widget I've ever seen, they just give info and limited functions. You wanted to send email FROM a widget?!
"sms messaging doesn't tell you how many letters you have left"
Mostly because text limits have all but disappeared. Does your provider still cap you? You should get a new provider.
Your device is still new...you need a few charging cycles to get the battery at full potential.
The other issues are pretty spot on...the keyboard I'm used to now though. Trust the predictive text.
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- can't call contact directly from email
- no hardware button to end call - pain when leave a voice message as need to turn phone on, unlock it and then end call.
- sms messaging doesn't tell you how many letters you have left
- no messaging in facebook
- headphone volume quiet (and that's with in ear headphones where on my HD I had the volume set to 1!)
- battery life atrocious in comparison. charged my phone last night and had a full charge before going to bed and when I woke up it was at 30%. no wifi or bluetooth on.
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1. I have never seen that feature before. Would definitely be handy.
2. That annoys me too, but I guess it's just a matter of getting used to it.
3. Use a replacement SMS app. Handcent is my favorite.
4. Blame Facebook for that. They won't allow it, even in their official app which is stupid.
5. Strange, I have the impression that the headphone volume is quite loud.
6. You might have an application running in the background which is draining the battery and keeping the phone awake. See related threads in this forum for more info.
keyboard - Like all keyboards, it takes time to get used to. Trust the autocomplete feature and you'll be surprised. Best soft keyboard I've ever used.
Yes, you can call directly from email. Just tap the sender and their contact card will open which includes the option to call them.
No hardware call buttons - It's an inconvenience but you knew they weren't there before you bought it.
Exchange sync issue - Maybe something with your settings? I have it synced with Google's Exchange server with no problems.
Widgets - Yes, I share your opinion on many of the widgets. You might as well just launch the main application. They are pretty to look at though...
SMS - Perhaps download a 3rd party SMS application?
Facebook - no comment. I don't use it.
Headphone volume - I read here that some carriers limit the max volume on their devices. Perhaps they did that to yours? My device's max volume is pretty deafening.
Battery life - If you read reviews, you'll know that battery life is not impressive. But do give it several charge cycles and sync your data as conservatively as possible. You might find the battery life to be acceptable.
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Take it back then. And my sms shows how many letter i have left.
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OUCH! Headshot! Be gentle it;s a new device ...
... Ok moving on ...
Actually don't worry been beaten ...
Like I said, the keyboard issue is just that you will need time to get used to it.
If you have a contact saved with a number and email and they send you mail, you will see their picture in the corner...tap it. You will get a speech bubble type box pop up that has the option to phone them, send them a message (text or email) or go to their contact card. Make sure you've merged your contacts. It won't work if you have a separate contact card for their phone details and then another for their email.
Again...is SMS length an issue still for people? I've not thought about those arbitrary 140 character limits since my first Motorola Wings flip phone.
Compared to my HD2 the Desire's keyboard is a DREAM to use - HD2 was skitty as hell and all over the shop. Desire's never misses a key and can type a LOT quicker on it personally...
Never bothered to know number of characters left in an SMS, doesn't bother me
Battery life, with all sync options on default, is about 48hrs give or take an hour...
Double sync IS annoying but I don't sync with Google anymore so got rid of that...
Facebook app, don't care about messaging as my phone is to keep up-to-date, PC is to contact...
Not bothered about hardware key for end call, call ends when you press the BIG red button at the end of a call (don't need to unlock or anything first)
Headphones - don't use them as phone isn't a music player to me, it's a phone
1. Get used to it, you will be fine. I moved from HTC Kaiser with hardware keyboard and I found the HTC Desire virtual keyboard is very good and responsive.
2. No idea, but as several posts above, you actually can do it.
3. You should know this already before purchase.
4. No idea
5. Widget is nice, this is unique to Android. You dont have to use it if you dont like. Then put app shortcut in the home screen, typical winmo thingy.
6. Use other messaging client like Hancent
7. Blame Facebook Or use Nimbuzz / Fring!
8. Check your settings, my battery life is amazing, on moderate usage it could last more than 48 hours (this include several hours (2-3) a day browsing on WiFi and gaming).
Maxwell Smart said:
I've just upgraded to a Desire coming from a Touch HD (Dutty Holy Grail) and have to say that first impressions are not great. Seriously thinking about returning it but interested to hear other people's experience.
So far moaning about the following problems - well more inconveniences:
- keyboard too jumpy
- can't call contact directly from email
- no hardware button to end call - pain when leave a voice message as need to turn phone on, unlock it and then end call.
- double syncs everything (on exchange server) so that appointment entries appear twice in calendar
- the home screen apps are kind of useless as you basically need to launch the full app to be able to do anything (ie email or sms)
- sms messaging doesn't tell you how many letters you have left
- no messaging in facebook
- headphone volume quiet (and that's with in ear headphones where on my HD I had the volume set to 1!)
- battery life atrocious in comparison. charged my phone last night and had a full charge before going to bed and when I woke up it was at 30%. no wifi or bluetooth on.
Will persevere another few days to make sure that I'm not just a grumpy old fart who hates change....
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RE: battery life
I charged mine to 100% last night, took it off charge at 1am, woke up at 8:20 am, checked my phone....98% !!
i use Juice Defender (one of my settings is to disable Apn/Wifi from midnight till 8am, works well
Thanks for the comments. Proves I'm a grumpy old fart! lol
Some good replies which I will investigate further.
Aitese - your comment about the screen going black and then turning back on when you remove it from your ear... is there a light sensor setting? as mine stays black until i tap power button unless i am talking to an actual person (rather than machine) and they hang up first.
Syncing is being done with a Microsoft Exchange Server 2003. But I think I may have just solved issue as it appears to sync both with my laptop and the server without realising they are showing the same appointments. Just too used to MS ActiveSync which works it out.
The keyboard is still bugging me - have tried to train it using the calibrate option but still seems off. That is the top row of keys that I push match up but when i go to the second last row it always hits the last row which being space and punctuation tends to terminate the word.
Anyhow will persevere. Appreciate everyone indulging a grumpy old codger...
great tip thanks - will look for that app.
Maxwell Smart said:
Aitese - your comment about the screen going black and then turning back on when you remove it from your ear... is there a light sensor setting? as mine stays black until i tap power button unless i am talking to an actual person (rather than machine) and they hang up first.
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If you hold the phone under a bright light you'll see the sensors in the top left corner of the black bezel. To test it, make a call and then move your thumb over the top left corner and then away again...the screen should turn off when your thumb gets near and turn back on shortly after you move away. Call your voicemail box or customer service
For sms use handcent its brill and it gives you letter count.For facebook i use babbler as it gives you notification for inbox.
Maxwell Smart said:
The keyboard is still bugging me - have tried to train it using the calibrate option but still seems off. That is the top row of keys that I push match up but when i go to the second last row it always hits the last row which being space and punctuation tends to terminate the word.
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BetterKeyboard plus the accompanying DarkGray theme is by far the best Android keyboard out there. HTC_IME (i.e. the HTC keyboard you're hating on) seems to be well thought of in the community but I personally hate it and think BetterKeyboard wipes the floor with it.
A few thoughts
- I just want to add a few thing giving that I also came from an HD. Compared to the HD which only had a light sensor, the Desire also comes with a proximity sensor that monitors if you have your ear close to the phone regardless of light (on the HD the screen only turned off if it was day and it could actually sense a difference in light).
If you make a call and put your phone to your ear it turns the screen off WITHOUT locking it, and when you want to terminate a call by taking it from your ear it will turn on again but not locked.
The phone locks itself only it you don't activate the proximity sensor (like when you are using a bluetooth headset and you don't take to phone to your ear). When that happenes the screen turns off after 15 seconds and yes, if you turn it on then it will be locked.
- Why do you want a hardware button for call and end? The capacitive screen with the combination of the proximity sensor makes them useless?
-Another thing i can chip in is related to the sms thing. The default SMS app shows you the number of characters left and the number of messages already typed when you are nearing the end of a message.
It shows that above the send button. If you have less the 10 characters available in that message it'll show 10/1 above the send button, and it will decrease and then turn into 145/2 saying that you have 145 characters left untill reaching 2 messages. After that it'll stay on and counting without dissapearing, until you send the message.
I find this to be a goog feature because it only warns me if i exceed one SMS.
I have used it for 2 days, and I am out of space installing apps on the HTC desire. WTF.. it can't use the 16 gig memory card to install apps and games?
There is no way I'm going to Win MO again.. but seriously.. WTF.
Maxwell Smart said:
- can't call contact directly from email
no issue here
- no hardware button to end call - pain when leave a voice message as need to turn phone on, unlock it and then end call.
as soon as you remove handset from ear it unlocks itself and turns on monitor. whats the prob here?
- double syncs everything (on exchange server) so that appointment entries appear twice in calendar
nope, no prob here
- the home screen apps are kind of useless as you basically need to launch the full app to be able to do anything (ie email or sms)
disable them if you dont like them. i find them handy
- battery life atrocious in comparison. charged my phone last night and had a full charge before going to bed and when I woke up it was at 30%. no wifi or bluetooth on.
read forum - thats you device not the desire in general
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none of these probs appear to be desire probs but rather strange layer 8 probs
Yeah the keyboard issue is due to the resistive v capacitive screens. The resistive screens need a good push, the capacitive ones need a slight touch. You get used to it.
for facebook, a new version is downloadable which give access to your INBOX.. which is what i assume was meant?
I have recently upgraded my DHD to 2.3.3 and everything seems to work just fine except for one thing.
In the dialer, the area above the buttons usually show my recent call list and if I press any numbers it shows quick contacts lookup.
After the upgrade however, this area is blank. I played a bit around with the dialer and noticed that if I press a few numbers and then delete them again, the blank area is suddently showing the contacts list again (as it is supposed to). After that it works as it normally would in the dialer.
I talked to a few others which have similar problems but we havent been able to pinpoint a pattern for why this happens.
Anyone inhere have the same problem and more importantly - anyone that knows how to fix this?
I did a normal upgrade without factory reset - one of the other guys with the problem did a factory reset as well.
If you are using a non-stock launcher (ADW / LauncherPro etc...) you must delete the shortcut from your homescreen or dock, and re-add it. Also, if you launch phone from the app drawer, it should appear normal.
How did you work that out? Very impressed! Been bugging me for days.
Have been doing a bit more customising and almost set up properly but still a few hanging issues:
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Sometimes when I unlock the phone, the brightness is set differently even though the ambience of where I am is the same, sometimes it could be dim and others bright and it doesn't really change.
Not fixed - CM7 issue
The Email app doesn't appear to be the best. It's very dark, is there any brighter theme available or maybe suggestion of another app for pop3 mail?
Not really an issue - APP Issue
I'm using GO SMS and unfortunately I'm still having an issue sending group messages, I've the option to seperate each message to each person into its own thread, sent a small group text, only to maybe 10 people yesterday and it split it into 4 separate threads, only 4 separate contacts who I sent it to as opposed to the 10, so where did the other 6 go? I couldn't check delivery status or anything.
Not Fixed -Possible App Issue, possible CM7 issue
Also with GO Dialer EX, I assume it's because I've over 1,900 contacts, but it freezes quite a lot if I'm going through my contacts/groups/adding new etc. Also you can't see the individual times of consecutive missed calls from one contact and if you have a missed call notification in the notification bar, clicking the notification used to clear the notification and bring you to the missed call screen, now it just brings you to the missed call screen but you have to go back to the notification menu to "clear" the notification, again, this didn't happen in sense and clicking to see the missed calls also cleared the notification. I also miss being able to just open up the dialer, press call on a blank field and it would call the last dialled, also with the way the call log is, I don't like that it groups the contacts together, I much prefer being able to see a log based on time only. Also by grouping the contacts together, you can't just click on a recent called contact and it will go to phone them immediately as you could with sense.
Not Fixed: App Issue, plus now discovered, if you have 2 missed calls, clear the notification and get 1 more missed call, the notification will come up again but say 3 missed calls
I miss the fact with Sense, you just clicked the clock and you got to your stopwatch/countdown timer/alarm straight away. Is there any way to get this back? Clicking the clock now brings me to a screen that isn't much use.
Fixed: App Issue - Got a separate stopwatch/countdown timer app and use stock alarm and using Go Weather widget
The included Calendar app widget has a few annoyances, you can't click a number to go straight to dialpad with from within an event, only 1 event is displayed in the widget and to go into details of that event you've to click into open the calendar first and then into the event. Again, the sense calendar app was better and you could also scroll through the events from the widget itself.
Fixed - Assigned swipe up and swipe down action to open calendar from home screen, this makes it just as quick as before to open the calendar app and gets right into the app, also I can now just click numbers and it opens the dialer, not sure what the issue was before but it's working grand now
Twitter widget is also worse than it was in sense, it only shows one tweet at a time as opposed to sense which you could again scroll down which is much handier if you're looking for say updates from AA Road Watch while stuck in traffic and you can just keep your eyes open for the AA logo on a scroll rather than clicking and clicking and clicking to see if they have any updates.
Not really an issue, I don't even use twitter that much
Calculator is too basic compared to sense one too
Fixed - Real calc
Another thing is I used to like to have "camcorder" shortcut instead of "camera" (I just feel it's better to have instant access to record something rather than photo it). You could easily then switch to camera if you want to photo something, there was no camcorder shortcut so I downloaded one, but it opens only the camcorder alone, as opposed to the same thing that you got when clicking the camera, in which you could easy switch between camera and camcorder. Any way to start that same thing, but just in camcorder mode by a shortcut?
Not really an issue, added camera and camcorder shortcut to home screens
Can someone also tell me if the CM7 "File manager" does the same as Astro? I installed Astro before realising there was a file manager there, guess there's no need for both so can I uninstall astro again? I'm only a very basic user that would be copying/pasting and installing apps via astro, so if this can all be done via file manager, I'll just get rid of Astro
Not really an issue, seems astro is better though, you can select multi select files in a folder to edit.move etc and just looks to be more options in general.
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A few more issues then using Go Dev Team apps:
on froyo, I had handscent and loved the way if I got a text, the led would be a permanent blue until I read it. I checked this option in go sms too but it doesn't seem to be working at all. I tried flash on at 300ms and then off at 0, I also tried at 300/300 and it didn't seem to flash at all.
Have also noticed a bug in go sms where a different contact name could appear in someone elses text, which happened before with Handscent on froyo, was hoping it would have been fixed. I wonder is it go, or a bug with android itself that's causing this.
Hoping I can sort the above not fixed issues so any advice would be appreciated, the LED notification thing is a strange one, just doesn't seem to work at all for go sms but it may be something conflicting with the CM7 settings or stock settings? Any feedback appreciated!
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Have been doing a bit more customising and almost set up properly but still a few hanging issues:
A few more issues then using Go Dev Team apps:
on froyo, I had handscent and loved the way if I got a text, the led would be a permanent blue until I read it. I checked this option in go sms too but it doesn't seem to be working at all. I tried flash on at 300ms and then off at 0, I also tried at 300/300 and it didn't seem to flash at all.
Have also noticed a bug in go sms where a different contact name could appear in someone elses text, which happened before with Handscent on froyo, was hoping it would have been fixed. I wonder is it go, or a bug with android itself that's causing this.
Hoping I can sort the above not fixed issues so any advice would be appreciated, the LED notification thing is a strange one, just doesn't seem to work at all for go sms but it may be something conflicting with the CM7 settings or stock settings? Any feedback appreciated!
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Not sure what your reply means, are you on the dev team for go/cm7 or something? If so, have plenty of suggestions and bugs to report