[Q] unable to downgrade or root - Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

i performed an OTA (Froyo) update on my phone and now i'm unable to root or downgrade so i can root.
i tried the downgrading method from here and i get an "incorrect cid" error
using unrevoked3 doesn't work, the process takes a long time and the phone just boots normally and it says "root failed"
i tried using a RUU and eventually ended up with an "wrong or incorrect cid" error too
so i'm guessing it's some error with the CID or something else i'm missing. how do i determine which is the suitable RUU for my CID? and how can i determine if my phone is CDMA or SLCD?
i'm not sure what to do now. i can post my phone info if needed.

What ROM version are you using at the mo?

stock HTC desire ROM
Baseband version 32.49.00.32U_5.11.05.27
Software number 2.32.415.3

Not seen an RUU with that version so you'd have to debrand (using a gold card) and then root that instead...the CID error is because you're not using a gold card
As for other questions:
- You're GSM, not CDMA, as you use a SIM card in your Desire
- Screen types are SLCD or AMOLED. New Desires (built August onwards) tend to be SLCD so you can only use RUUs with versions 2.x.xxx.x onwards (unless otherwise stated)

i still have to use a gold card even though the phone is unbranded? i'll give it a try i guess. i wanted to avoid making a goldcard but i guess i'm running out of options.

ByteFalcon said:
i still have to use a gold card even though the phone is unbranded? i'll give it a try i guess. i wanted to avoid making a goldcard but i guess i'm running out of options.
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If you get incorrect CID that means that your phone is branded, hence the goldcard

If you're phone was unbranded you'd be on version x.xx.405.x - anything is either a region variant or branded. Most debranding guides use the WWE ROM (x.xx.405.x)

yeah it could be a region specific phone, that would explain the ROM version and the CID errors. but its definetely not branded, no extra software on it and its works with any network. does that mean i have to debrand, downgrade and then root?

Just have to debrand, use 2.10.405.2 and flash it with a gold card and then root - no downgrade required

- Insert a Goldcard
- Flash this using this RUU:RUU_Bravo_Froyo_Vodafone_UK_2.33.161.2_Radio_32.49 .00.32U_5.11.05.27_release_157522_signed.exe
see this link http://forum.xda-developers.com/show...=853178&page=3
then u can root it using unrevoked if u dont have goldcard dowload this file http://www.mediafire.com/?pby74hjgv9t9tmu put it on the sd card turn the mobile off then press volume up while keeping it pressed press the power button then it will go HBOOT then PB99IMG.zip will flash ur desire u can root it again using unrevoked.

Why would they want to flash a Vodafone UK ROM onto their phone?? Bad advice, there...
Get the one from my signature of you still want to be unbranded

This one 2.29.405.2 WWE will not work on desire with RUU ARA_2.32.415.3 this the only way to root the device again pls see this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=853178&page=3

So why did you post the Vodafone UK one before? And how do you now the EU is on that ROM?? It doesn't matter which you use so long as you have a gold card

EddyOS said:
So why did you post the Vodafone UK one before? And how do you now the EU is on that ROM?? It doesn't matter which you use so long as you have a gold card
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Yea..
I think his best bet is to downgrade using Teppic's utility to the WWE 1.720 and then upgrade to whatever version of his ROM is avilable on Shipped roms. And root. And..I have yet to see Unrvoked failing on any software version.
Use a goldcard while using Teppic's utility too. That will bypass the CID check

Why downgrade at all? So long as you're on ANY stock ROM you can root it. Downgrading is completely unneccessary

believe me I got this RUU ARA_2.32 I ve tried all the methods u mentioned here only the vodadafone RUU could resolve this problem all other methods gave different kind of errors without any success.

Of course it'll work, if not THEN use Teppic's downgrade tool and flash whatever ROM you want

EddyOS said:
Why downgrade at all? So long as you're on ANY stock ROM you can root it. Downgrading is completely unneccessary
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I suggested that only b/c he said he tried unrevoked and it failed..Of course unrevoked is supposed to work on every software..That said, I havent seen 2.32.415.3 before and thought maybe it has patched the Unrevoked vulnerability..

alsir said:
believe me I got this RUU ARA_2.32 I ve tried all the methods u mentioned here only the vodadafone RUU could resolve this problem all other methods gave different kind of errors without any success.
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Would help if you could describe the "different errors"..
The solution could have been anything starting from incorrect drivers..

I think I know what he's trying to say, he wants me to use the vodaphone one as a stepping stone before moving on to an unbranded ROM and rooting. But won't that still require a gold card anyway since its not the same version ROM?
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[q] bootloader version error...

So, I'm trying to debrand myu Desire, using an RUU file. My ROM is 1.24.161.3 and HBOOT 0.80. I have a branded Vodafone Desire, that recently got a pointless update (not Froyo!!).
For the past couple of days I've been trying to debrand, already done the gold card and am ready for the next step, however, whenevery I run the RUU file it says that there is a USB connection error, run the RUU file again and it works till it is "Updating Signature", then it stops, with a "BOOTLOADER VERSION ERROR"
My theory on this is because my ROM is 1.24.161.3 and every other RUU file I've used has a lower ROM number.
Am I right, or is there something I am doing wrong?
Are you using the right hoot root method?
Sent from my HTC Desire upside-down
GANJDROID said:
Are you using the right hoot root method?
Sent from my HTC Desire upside-down
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sorry, don't exacly know what that means... for now I am not rooted, however I am willing to root if required
thanks for the quick reply

[Q] Can't downgrade my unbranded DHD from 2.2.1 to 1.32.405.6

I have an unbranded DHD with Android 2.2.1 running on stock rom for India, today i tried to downgrade to 1.32.405.6 using the RUU_Ace_HTC_WWE_1.32.405.6_Radio_12.28b.60.140e_26.03.02.26_M_release_155891_signed.exe but it keeps giving me customer id error, I also downloaded the PD98IMG for the above rom and when i try to update it says CID incorrect, after searching I found that I need to create a gold card. My question is why do i need it, is creating a gold card the only solution. I have an unbranded DHD. Can anyone pls help me downgrade so that i can install a custom rom for my unbranded indian DHD
ruben_swing said:
I have an unbranded DHD with Android 2.2.1 running on stock rom for India, today i tried to downgrade to 1.32.405.6 using the RUU_Ace_HTC_WWE_1.32.405.6_Radio_12.28b.60.140e_26.03.02.26_M_release_155891_signed.exe but it keeps giving me customer id error, I also downloaded the PD98IMG for the above rom and when i try to update it says CID incorrect, after searching I found that I need to create a gold card. My question is why do i need it, is creating a gold card the only solution. I have an unbranded DHD. Can anyone pls help me downgrade so that i can install a custom rom for my unbranded indian DHD
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You tried this description, and followed it word for word?
And to my knowledge you should not need to create a goldcard when you have an unbranded device.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=905003
Sorry but the same customer id error even when after following the guide u mentioned
ruben_swing said:
I have an unbranded DHD with Android 2.2.1 running on stock rom for India, today i tried to downgrade to 1.32.405.6 using the RUU_Ace_HTC_WWE_1.32.405.6_Radio_12.28b.60.140e_26.03.02.26_M_release_155891_signed.exe but it keeps giving me customer id error, I also downloaded the PD98IMG for the above rom and when i try to update it says CID incorrect, after searching I found that I need to create a gold card. My question is why do i need it, is creating a gold card the only solution. I have an unbranded DHD. Can anyone pls help me downgrade so that i can install a custom rom for my unbranded indian DHD
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I had the exact problem. I created a goldcard, and everthing worked out fine. Not sure why a goldcard is required even when our device is apparently unbranded, but anyways, goldcard does the work.
Try following this guide:
http://www.addictivetips.com/mobile/how-to-make-gold-card-for-htc-desire-hd/
nayan8teen said:
I had the exact problem. I created a goldcard, and everthing worked out fine. Not sure why a goldcard is required even when our device is apparently unbranded, but anyways, goldcard does the work.
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Thank you so much for replying. I have yet to try out the guide you have mentioned in the link, however, I do need to ask one or two questions:
1. If I create a goldcard, will I be able to ever upgrade to the Official Gingerbread ROM, when it is released for India.
2. Can I switch between ROMs (stock/non-stock) seamlessly, without any complains.
I would really appreciate if you would really help me out here.
ruben_swing said:
I have an unbranded DHD with Android 2.2.1 running on stock rom for India, today i tried to downgrade to 1.32.405.6 using the RUU_Ace_HTC_WWE_1.32.405.6_Radio_12.28b.60.140e_26.03.02.26_M_release_155891_signed.exe but it keeps giving me customer id error, I also downloaded the PD98IMG for the above rom and when i try to update it says CID incorrect, after searching I found that I need to create a gold card. My question is why do i need it, is creating a gold card the only solution. I have an unbranded DHD. Can anyone pls help me downgrade so that i can install a custom rom for my unbranded indian DHD
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I had the same problem with downgrading to 1.3 as of the PD98IMG.zip. tried for 2 days and i kept getting the CID incorrect error. finally it came to me..i wasnt running the command prompt as administrator. it worked like a charm for me. that might be the reason why you're getting the CID incorrect error.
ramanan27 said:
I had the same problem with downgrading to 1.3 as of the PD98IMG.zip. tried for 2 days and i kept getting the CID incorrect error. finally it came to me..i wasnt running the command prompt as administrator. it worked like a charm for me. that might be the reason why you're getting the CID incorrect error.
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I am still getting the CID incorrect error. however, I did manage to find something very helpful in this regard, and I would like to share it with you wonderful ppl, who took the time out to help me, check the link given below:
androidforums.com/desire-hd-all-things-root/323976-cid-incorrect-update-fail-desire-hd-firmware-downgrading-1-32-405-6-1-84-720-3-a.html
The above is a link
Once again thank you all for helping me, and in case you do have some updates about this, pls keep me posted
ruben_swing said:
Thank you so much for replying. I have yet to try out the guide you have mentioned in the link, however, I do need to ask one or two questions:
1. If I create a goldcard, will I be able to ever upgrade to the Official Gingerbread ROM, when it is released for India.
2. Can I switch between ROMs (stock/non-stock) seamlessly, without any complains.
I would really appreciate if you would really help me out here.
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For your first question, no. And it has nothing to do with goldcard. I you are rooted and use some custom rom, you will not receive any official updates. Although you can at anytime go back to stock to get them.
But beleive me, when you start using custom roms, you do not need the official updates. I too am from India, and was waiting for the official 2.3.3, but finally a few days back decided to root and go for custom rom (RCMixHD Kingdom). And i am loving it..
So go ahead, make your goldcard.
And yeah, for your second, yes you can. Although, i dont think you will ever..

[Q] unroot gingerbread ruu problem

hi i have have installed many different roms, hboots, radios and have also used alpha rev and unrevoked to on my desire. i want to start again because the phone isnt working well now and i can no longer install a new recovery img. i have found a rom i like which is miui beta. so i want to unroot the device get it back to stock and start again however im getting bootloader version error when using the RUU.
hboot - 0.80.0000
radio - 5.14.05.17
also to note after using ruu which hasn't fully completed i now have S-on when i had s-off and i am not afraid of rebooting or turning of the device in case of bricking it.
can anyone help thanks.
wolfgang9_9 said:
hi i have have installed many different roms, hboots, radios and have also used alpha rev and unrevoked to on my desire. i want to start again because the phone isnt working well now and i can no longer install a new recovery img. i have found a rom i like which is miui beta. so i want to unroot the device get it back to stock and start again however im getting bootloader version error when using the RUU.
hboot - 0.80.0000
radio - 5.14.05.17
also to note after using ruu which hasn't fully completed i now have S-on when i had s-off and i am not afraid of rebooting or turning of the device in case of bricking it.
can anyone help thanks.
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Hi.
Are you trying to run the latest RUU WWE 2.29.405.5? This should give you no problems, unless you have a custom HBOOT, which I can't see.
Try running the PB99IMG.zip directly from SD Card. Here it is how to extract the PB99IMG.zip from the RUU: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=880268 -2nd post.
Please explain a little more about what you have did to the phone till now (custom HBOOT?).
We have to take it slowly.
i tried using this version -
RUU_Bravo_HTC_WWE_1.21.405.2_Radio_32.36.00.28U_4.06.00.02_2_release_126984_signed.exe
and regards to the hboot i have used alpha rev so i dont know if that classes as a custom hboot or not.
and thanks for the quick reply
wolfgang9_9 said:
i tried using this version -
RUU_Bravo_HTC_WWE_1.21.405.2_Radio_32.36.00.28U_4.06.00.02_2_release_126984_signed.exe
and regards to the hboot i have used alpha rev so i dont know if that classes as a custom hboot or not.
and thanks for the quick reply
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Hi.
Well there's the problem the version of RUU is way too old (1.21.405.2 <-> 2.29.405.5). Try running the latest RUU and run it from bootloader (PB99IMG.zip).
If you have used alpharev only to S-OFF but not to flash HBOOT's then there is no problem. Just run the latest RUU and it will be all over.
Please post the result.
okay so i use the ruu and make a pb99img, mount the usb storage place it on the phone reboot and it should work. do i need a gold card tho to do this?
wolfgang9_9 said:
okay so i use the ruu and make a pb99img, mount the usb storage place it on the phone reboot and it should work. do i need a gold card tho to do this?
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Yes.
1. Extract the PB99IMG.zip and put it on root of SD Card.
2. Reboot in bootloader (Volume-Down + Power)
3. It will automatically load the img and ask you if you want to install
4. Check Yes and follow onscreen progress.
5. Wait untill it finnishes
6. I think it will reboot itself, if not scroll down to the Reboot obtion and press Power button to select.
About the gold card:
You need a gold card only if you have a branded phone.
If you do need to create a gold card try this guide:
droidzone said:
4. Do I need a Goldcard?
If you have a recent version of the RUU for your Device, available on Shipped Roms, you dont need a goldcard. This is the usual scenario for people who purchased their Desire in Europe, and so have an unbranded Desire. All Branded Desires need a correct branded version of the RUU, and any other RUU including WWE (Worldwide English, or European) RUU will not work for them. Also if an unbranded Desire user wishes to change RUU to a branded version, he will need a Goldcard. This is because all Desires have a particular software tag in the Rom, called the InfoCID. This dictates the Region code. For Eg. An Indian Desire is branded and has InfoCID of HTC__038. When you change a RUU to different region, what you actually do is reset the InfoCID setting. Changing the InfoCID setting requires a Goldcard.
5. What is a Goldcard?
It is a normal MicroUSB card specially prepared in such a way that its Sector 0 (which normally doesnt hold anything useful) is modified, so that it signals to the HTC RUU that the InfoCID may be changed.
6. How do I create a Goldcard?
Just download this tool (Credits and All Rights by [email protected]), and run it.
7. Can you tell me more about Goldcards?
Sure. I've already posted it for you. Read the FAQs in this thread.
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Or to create a gold card in Linux(without using the phone): http://www.nazriawang.com/2010/04/how-to-create-goldcard-with-ubuntu.html
No method available for Windows only.
droidzone said:
Whatever you do, DO NOT turn off the device manually unless the software tells you to. If something goes wrong, dont switch off phone. Keep the phone on while trying a solution. Newer RUUs dont usually wreck a phone, and with a goldcard, you can always recover. But, the flash SHOULD NOT be interrupted by switching off or disconnecting the cable.
Always start with a battery with >50% power (full recommended).
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omg thank you soo much it worked and no need for a gold card either so now i can finally start again thanks again ever so much helped alot.
wolfgang9_9 said:
omg thank you soo much it worked and no need for a gold card either so now i can finally start again thanks again ever so much helped alot.
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I'm glad you've managed to do it and repair the phone.
Also I'm glad I could help you.

[Q] RUU factory Main version is older

Hi im trying to restore my Desire with factory Rom without root and S-off
Now in Bootloader it says
RAVO UNKNOWN SHIP S-ON
HBOOT - 0.75.0000
MICROP-031D
TOUCH PANEL-SYNT0101
radio-4.05.00.11
mar 5 2010,21:12:15
I tryed many times to flash official RUU
RUU_Bravo_Fastweb_IT_1.15.1600.5_Radio_32.30.00.28 U_4.05.00.11_rel_121996
(my Desire was branded Fastweb)
Everytime there is an error, flashing by bootloader
Main version is older!
Update fail
It shoud happen when HBOOT is newer than RUU , but i think my HBOOT is the right one.
I used goldcard, and then i tryed without but the problem is the same
How can i solve?
The coldcard works by making the phone ignore the CID (customer ID), so that you can install a RUU of ANY brand you wish. It DOES NOT work for bootloader versions, so e.g. once you update your phone to 2.2 (from 2.1), you CAN NOT, go BACK to 2.1 using an older RUU. Hope that helps you to understand it a bit more. As for upgrading your phone, try that:
I don't know whether your phone is GSM or CDMA (since I've never heard of that network) but if your phone is GSM (has a simcard), then use this RUU http://www.mirrorcreator.com/files/...2U_5_11_05_27_release_159811_signed.exe_links
It is the latest WWE (world wide english) RUU so there is no way you will get that error. You need a working goldcard for it to work, but from reading your post it seems you have that covered so you should be fine.
You can go from 2.2 to 2.1 using teppic74's downgrade tool. Its a bit more involved than just flashiong an RUU.
That RUU is in th GSM section on shipped roms, but that doesn't necessarily mean it IS gsm
rootSU said:
You can go from 2.2 to 2.1 using teppic74's downgrade tool. Its a bit more involved than just flashiong an RUU.
That RUU is in th GSM section on shipped roms, but that doesn't necessarily mean it IS gsm
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Yeeahhh but I said you can't go back using the RUU
and yeah I figured, there's only one BravoC RUU on SR, but I'm just being on the safe side
bortak said:
The coldcard works by making the phone ignore the CID (customer ID), so that you can install a RUU of ANY brand you wish. It DOES NOT work for bootloader versions, so e.g. once you update your phone to 2.2 (from 2.1), you CAN NOT, go BACK to 2.1 using an older RUU. Hope that helps you to understand it a bit more. As for upgrading your phone, try that:
I don't know whether your phone is GSM or CDMA (since I've never heard of that network) but if your phone is GSM (has a simcard), then use this RUU
It is the latest WWE (world wide english) RUU so there is no way you will get that error. You need a working goldcard for it to work, but from reading your post it seems you have that covered so you should be fine.
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I tryed ur solution, but during flashing there is an error "131 customenr id error"
About the 2nd solution ( downgrade from 2.2 to 2.1) , its right to use it while i have hboot 0.75 (not 0.92) ?
Now i have on Leedroid 2.1.
RUU_Bravo_Fastweb_IT_1.15.1600.5_Radio_32.30.00.28 U_4.05.00.11_rel_121996.exe
So i think i need to have hboot 0.75, and its the hboot i can see in bootloader. Right?
I have to restore it because my touchscreen doesnt work, and warranty end with rooted phones
Downgrade dont work.
When i go in bootloader and i read PB991IMG.zip it says CID ERROR.
I've done goldcard many times, this is what i do:
Format MicroSD 4gb (stock microsd)
Open Gold Card Tool and complete the operation (it says gold card created)
what i do wrong?
When i have to install RUU in bootloader i put inside PB991IMG, so i extract Card and load the file by cardreader.
That error 131 appears everytime but when i try to install Official FASTWEB RUU it disappears and , as i said before, appears BOOTLOADER ERROR
you're either doing the goldcard wrong or your sd-card simply doesn't work as a goldcard.
try this tutorial and try again. http://theunlockr.com/2010/03/10/how-to-create-a-goldcard/
bortak said:
you're either doing the goldcard wrong or your sd-card simply doesn't work as a goldcard.
try this tutorial and try again.
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Bortak thanks thanks and more thanks!!!
I followed ur guide and now i unrooted phone.
I installed RUU 1.15 so now i have phone branded as factory.
Tomorrow i'll go to service, and i hope they will change my touchscreen.
Thanks a lot again
sfidanza2005 said:
Bortak thanks thanks and more thanks!!!
I followed ur guide and now i unrooted phone.
I installed RUU 1.15 so now i have phone branded as factory.
Tomorrow i'll go to service, and i hope they will change my touchscreen.
Thanks a lot again
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[Q] How to root wiht a build:1.31.405.1.cl269910 release-keys

I bought a use desire Z , and Ihave a problem with the sims unlock, someone tell me it easier for me if I root it, but i don't find how to do with my configuration...
Version d'android:2.2
version core:2.6.32.21-g826c38e [email protected]#1
# de build:1.31.405.1.cl269910 release-keys
soft:1.31.405.1
All the ''how to guide '' I have seen it for build 1.34 and higher it is the same for the build 1.31?
Thankx in advance!!
Use the guide for rooting 1.34, it should work fine.
-Nipqer
Hi here again!!
You should explain your roggers -> Bell simlock problem too.
Maybe you could have some help here too!!!
Does direct flash of a shipped ROM (.exe) could work?
Witch one to choose in this case?
Can't tell if you're asking a question or not.
If a simlock is active, rooting the phone will remove the simlock.
RUU's are only for the DZ, not the G2 (unless you count the very latest G2 update, 2.16.531.6)
Flashing a RUU (the .exe) will flash whatever stock rom is contained in it onto your device, if the version numbers and model id's and cid's all match (if you're S-ON)
if you're S-OFF, any RUU should run on your device, but will remove any custom recovery and eng hboot.
-Nipqer
Initially, my problem comes from the fact that I can't connect to the Bell network, with my phone to buy used, the guy who sale me told that is enlocked, he served under Rodgers before, however I have no message saying that my SIM is invalid when I insert my SIM or another of Telus. I have an X on the antenna, and only wifi works, I have manually configured the APN, replace the SIM, and spend hours to peel forum, Keno40 suggest me to Root, do my question we not sure that was the 1.34 work for1.31 build... excuse me if my text is a little low end, English is not my first language… If you have other idea to resolve my issue it will be great!
Nipqer said:
Can't tell if you're asking a question or not.
If a simlock is active, rooting the phone will remove the simlock.
RUU's are only for the DZ, not the G2 (unless you count the very latest G2 update, 2.16.531.6)
Flashing a RUU (the .exe) will flash whatever stock rom is contained in it onto your device, if the version numbers and model id's and cid's all match (if you're S-ON)
if you're S-OFF, any RUU should run on your device, but will remove any custom recovery and eng hboot.
-Nipqer
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Thanks for the explanation , I try to found that how idoing that...
hello, please try to downgrade your rom.
Here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/HTC_Vision#Rooting_the_Vision_.28G2.2FDZ.29_and_DHD are some good hints to downgrade the phone. after doing this you may like to root your phone. after rooting/ recovery install you may like to install a cusrom.
i followed these instructions to unlock my german dz.
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