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Any word yet on Android 2.2

Is there going to be an upgrade for the desire ?
Would love that ! (Flash)
Any body got some info ?

of course will be, the question is when?

thats quick ....

Are we talking months or weeks untill 'droid 2.2 comes out
The internet is being a bit tight lipped.
The deisre is lovely, but not finished yet.
flash is nice, divx is vital and 720p video is something I wsan't expecting...
How are we going to get it when its released?
Will it be a user ROM style hardware flash through PC sync or will i just download a file to my phone, click go and 10minutes later my phone is amazing??
(i'm having fun wiping smug faces of iphone owning freinds as they ask what phone I have and i show them, then tell them I've got it for £15/mnth )

you'll get it here on XDA as usual. ready to be flashed on your device as any other ROM

2.2 aka Froyo: maybe next week!!!
I read this on engadget:
Engadget's post about Froyo
I don't really want to root my phone as it's I think really good as it is but I wouldn't say no to Froyo! especially since it apparently boosts performance a lot!
Quote form Engadget: "Update: How much faster is a Nexus One running Froyo? 450 percent faster, according to the Android Police. They claim to have a device running the as-yet-unreleased firmware that can perform over 37 million floating-point operations per second in the Linpack benchmark... compared to about 7 megaflops without. Oh yeeaaah."

As soon as a Froyo rom leaks, people will rip it apart and mod it to hell to get it to run on all kinds of devices. I'm sure we'll see Paul make a 2.2 Desire ROM, for example and now that HTC has released the Kernel source code, it should be easier to port existing quality roms like Cyanogenmod to the device. They'll all require root access to flash as they're unofficial roms. HTC will probably eventually port Froyo themselves, but that will probably take months.
Still, 2.2 hasn't shown up yet, so no dice. We'll have to wait until google I/O before that happens

it's going to be loooong till HTC themselves release it..but as soon as its out for nexus we'll see it here on xda in no time!

If you don't want to root & use a cooked ROM I wouldn't count on having it earlier than 6 months from now.
HTC needs to change Sense UI for Android 2.2 and looking at the Hero, which STILL does not have 2.1 I wouldn't expect it to be quick.

stingerpl said:
If you don't want to root & use a cooked ROM I wouldn't count on having it earlier than 6 months from now.
HTC needs to change Sense UI for Android 2.2 and looking at the Hero, which STILL does not have 2.1 I wouldn't expect it to be quick.
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Exactly... I had a hero myself and in order to get 2.1 ....what did I do???
I sold the hero and got a desire

will 2.2 allow us to install apps on SD card??

kvmanohar said:
will 2.2 allow us to install apps on SD card??
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It better....otherwise I'm selling my desire...what a waste of phone, can only install a handful of apps. I bet its restricting developers too.

pistonripper said:
It better....otherwise I'm selling my desire...what a waste of phone, can only install a handful of apps. I bet its restricting developers too.
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Oh don't be so dramatic. I could fit loads on mine just fine. And i rooted and installed apps2sd anyway. Don't get any Android phone if you expect to be able to install millions of apps.

Yeah, we will get it as a Custom Rom in the next few days and from HTC in several months

inkredi said:
Exactly... I had a hero myself and in order to get 2.1 ....what did I do???
I sold the hero and got a desire
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Same here, haha, I think many people have done this. Nexus one was not available yet in my country so I purchased the Desire. Will definitely flash 2.2 on this baby though. No way i am going to wait for HTC anymore.

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Yeah, we will get it as a Custom Rom in the next few days and from HTC in several months
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Months?? Seeing how things are going with the hero, I'd say they'll release it to the desire once the 2.3 is out. So better think of it as next year.

IMO Desire's owners are very important for HTC, since we are buying their flagship phones. I think they must keep us satisfied, if not, we will buy different phone next time. And I won't be happy if Nexus One owners will get 2.2 and we will not.

BTW isnt the evo 4g an Android 2.2 phone quz 2.1 didn't support 4g correct me if im wrong but if it is the update for the desire wont cost them so much time to port.
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I've recently read that the Evo 4G will be an 2.1 phone as well :/

450% FASTER?! HOLYY SHIITT!!! I cant waaiiit!!!

How long do we think it will take to root?

With full access to the ROMs and EVOs now, it doesn't seem like it will take long to me. Do any informed experts have any ideas?

TheBiles said:
With full access to the ROMs and EVOs now, it doesn't seem like it will take long to me. Do any informed experts have any ideas?
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took me 7-8 hours to root the samsung moment once we got a copy of the leaked android 2.1....this phone is setup completely different and i dont physically have it to test anything.
im doing some research and hope to figure out a solution, but it'll be hard for me to test it for sure.
if anybody else has some insight with previous HTC and android experience, that'd be great to hear some other opinions?!
or maybe an HTC phone with similar file system structure which was rooted?

joey do u plan on getting this phone? i had a moment but was lucky enough to get the evo off someone that went to i/o.....it would be awesome to have your kernels working on this bad boy!!!

shakuyi said:
joey do u plan on getting this phone? i had a moment but was lucky enough to get the evo off someone that went to i/o.....it would be awesome to have your kernels working on this bad boy!!!
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yea, im heavily considering it. i qualify for my upgrade so for $199 and giving up a hardware keyboard for all the great hardware features this has, i think its worth it!
i hope to be able to compile a few kernels for you and everybody else

joeykrim said:
yea, im heavily considering it. i qualify for my upgrade so for $199 and giving up a hardware keyboard for all the great hardware features this has, i think its worth it!
i hope to be able to compile a few kernels for you and everybody else
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ah dont even worry about the onscreen keyboard it takes a second to get used to it. that was the reason why i picked the moment over the hero but i still found myself using swype lol. as of now im just using the htc keyboard and its pretty slick so far just have to train the dictionary.

i work for sprint, my indirect rep came in with his evo the other day and so i installed swype 1.25 on it. FREAKIN. AWESOME. also, MAD props to joeykrim. i have the moment and he has done SO many wonderful things with it. but it looks like im going to htc...
EDIT: joey, i would ABSOLUTELY LOVE to see you move to the evo and see what that genius brain can cook up. if you ever need a tester, im all over it. been with you on sdx since the days you and speedrabbit were bustin down and fixing 1.5.

IM getting the EVO day of release and maybe another for testing. Let me know when you want to get this thing a try. i just hope it doesn't brick XD

knowing joeykrim, once he gets his grubby hands on an Evo - it'll be rooted there soon after.
glad to see some familiar names over here guys...

Looks like the question has just about been answered :>
grack.com/blog/2010/05/23/root-on-an-htc-evo-4g/
Old school Palm devs working on it... even without details released, I'd stake my farm on it being 100% legit.
Important note - I have no farm .

HTC Evo 4G rooted in record time
http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/24/htc-evo-4g-rooted-in-record-time-video/

Yeah but in case you guys haven't heard the shipped 2.1 rom you guys get may not be final. Sprint could easily push an update to close off root. Just look in the hero section, the final 2.1 RUU is still not able to be rooted by our best devs. Im not trying to worry anybody but it is a possibility.

No ICS for Nexus One

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/google/8848669/Android-upgrade-for-Google-Nexus-S-in-weeks.html
So Google has announced that the Nexus One will not be getting ICS as it is simply not powerful enough. As the Nexus One is basically the same as our Desire, there goes any hope of an official update.
Question now is, once ICS goes AOSP, is it going to work? Without the N1, we will be lacking some necessary drivers, won't we?
Not good news. I know N1 owners and Android commentators all thought the N1 was going to get it.

Another reason to ditch Desire for good.

didnt they say any device running gingerbread would be able to get IC? i'm confused.

Old hardware, Low internal memory. Is it possible to run on the Desire/Nexus one, but they do not want ot make it. Period.

There was never any hope of an official update.

Desire was never going to get an update, but Nexus One was always in the grey area...
I guess they can easily say hardware requirements are holding it back - it will run GB - but maybe it hasnt got the internal storage for ICS to run effectively... devs can probably span it onto EXT on SDCARD but of course Google won't want to do that...
Its probably a case of 'it can.... but probably not as well as they like.'

I smell hypocrisy here. First they say that any device capable of running 2.3 will be able to get ICS, but ask them to port to a device with a different chipset to their other flagship phones, and suddenly it's simply 'too old'. And I bet they'll continue to moan that handset makers and carriers don't update devices enough.

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I smell hypocrisy here. First they say that any device capable of running 2.3 will be able to get ICS, but ask them to port to a device with a different chipset to their other flagship phones, and suddenly it's simply 'too old'. And I bet they'll continue to moan that handset makers and carriers don't update devices enough.
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The problem is not the SoC, but the LOW internal memory. They just don't want to take out apps and shrink the size of their "original" build to fit a smaller system partition.

Terepin said:
Another reason to ditch Desire for good.
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"Ditch Desire", "ICS looks ugly", "Roboto is a complete failure", ...
I could ask "why the hell haven't you left Android yet?", but since you strike me as reasonably logical and intelligent, I suspect you simply think all the alternatives are even worse than you consider Android.
Which means you're not just logical and intelligent, but my word, you're depressing.

Kyoraki said:
I smell hypocrisy here.
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The only thing I smell is one more charade low skilled users granted us the last time an official update was released

since 2.3 aosp is only about 70-90mb big, how big is ics going to be? even the desire has a system memory of ~200mb (correct me if im wrong) so why wouldnt they be able to fit it in there?
at least let the xda devs do their magic, dont wanna ditch my precious device

ZeGuitarist said:
"Ditch Desire", "ICS looks ugly", "Roboto is a complete failure", ...
I could ask "why the hell haven't you left Android yet?", but since you strike me as reasonably logical and intelligent, I suspect you simply think all the alternatives are even worse than you consider Android.
Which means you're not just logical and intelligent, but my word, you're depressing.
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I already wrote why.

DasGensu said:
since 2.3 aosp is only about 70-90mb big, how big is ics going to be? even the desire has a system memory of ~200mb (correct me if im wrong) so why wouldnt they be able to fit it in there?
at least let the xda devs do their magic, dont wanna ditch my precious device
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the nexus one has in total 145 MB in /system
the ICS sdk system image is 170 MB (without google apps, wallpapers and ringtones)
so
1) it doesn't fit in the n1
2) probably it will slow down a bit the n1, and that its not acceptable for the average users (that after the ota will have no chance to go back)
3) marketing purpose..maybe about time to buy a new phone, as the very small internal memory (like our desire) was an epic fail and its going to complicate everything for the average user that have no more free space
this explain why google will not update it (atm )
cyanogen will do soon when the source come out

With the speed the devs have been churning out roms lately if they put the ics rom out for the desire by the time my contract is up I shall stick with my desire and just swap sims.

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(that after the ota will have no chance to go back)
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Oh no, that would mean another official update not done properly
I think it would be about time that average joe should decide if they want OTA updates or not.
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very small internal memory (like our desire) was an epic fail and its going to complicate everything for the average user that have no more free space
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I find it amusing that the moaners knew the Desire failed miserably with internal space compared to iPhone 3GS and Galaxy, and yet they bought it

So is this the final nail in the coffin for Desire?

The final nail would be when most devs (read all true devs) left. But yeah, Desire is with one leg in grave.

Hardly - the amount of development still going on for the Desire is phenomenal compared to some much newer phones. Probably the easily unlockable bootloader has a lot to do with that (take note, handset makers...)
Right now I (and probably a lot of people here) am running Android 2.3.7 - the most recent version of Android on the market. This means that our Desire is more up to date than the most up to date phone you can buy in a store right now. How is that "one leg in the grave" (btw the expression is one foot in the grave)
I am sure Cyanogen & team will come up with CM9 for the Desire based on ICS. None of us can yet say how it will run, but I would bet my bottom dollar that it is coming.
Personally, I have another year to go on my contract with the Desire. I expect to be running ICS quite happily for the duration of that year, and during that time, I'm sure that my phone's OS will be more up to date than all of the people I know around me with an Android phone.
Then, when my contract is up, I will get a phone that has satisfies the following conditions:
*Rootable
*Unlockable S-Off-able bootloader
*Micro SD slot
*SIM-unlockable
*Plenty of internal memory
Then I will have the equivalent of my Desire, just with new hardware specs. And it will be awesome.

I never expected any official support for that ICS ROM anyway, on the N1 nor the Desire.
but, i'm sure that upon Source code arrival, it would be adjusted to work on the desire.

I also never expected the desire for the ICS even. With that exeprience from gingerbread tells me not to expect for another wave of OS upgrade. And that is how i rooted my phone and install custom ROM (CM7.1) to it. I never imagined the power of this phone since i rooted it. It gives myself a feeling of having a new and powerful phone again after a year of constant hard reset due to memory issues. I know the CMs and other Devs are already reasearching to port another upgrade to the desire and a big thanks to them for continuously searching and developing.

[Q] Sprints abandoning evo, has deck also??

deck was updating his rom almost once or twice a week since the ICS source code was released, but it seems we have been stuck on a5 for ages now, i couldnt beleave my eyes when i saw decks ICS pushed 3 pages back on the evo dev forum string, any news on when we may get a alpha 6 or pre beta or dare i even say beta...?? or is deck studying in his man cave developing something so smooth it will suprise us all... just pondering, any thoughts??

Why don't you ask him yourself?

Follow his twitter. I think he actually is up to a7

No decks is still a5 its preludes that is up to a7..
deck said a week or so ago that he is waiting for a newer kernel before he updates..I imagine that hasnt happened yet..

As any true deck follower would know...when his thread seems to go quiet for a while, that means he's cooking something good and then BAM!!! he drops that like its hot cuz it always is.
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I saw on his Twitter a while back that he's not releasing nothing till better kernel come out
Sent from my PC36100 using XDA App

The rom functionality is being limited by the kernel at the moment until the drivers are coded and compiled things wont be working so they can't be added for updates, whats working is what has kernel support once the kernel is fully functional the rom will be fully functional. Without official support or a phone with similar hardware specs being officially supported coding the kernel and porting the rom is about 1000x harder since it is being built from the ground up. Be patient it will come just not as fast as usual
We are legion, for we are many.

MrDSL said:
No decks is still a5 its preludes that is up to a7..
deck said a week or so ago that he is waiting for a newer kernel before he updates..I imagine that hasnt happened yet..
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My bad, now I feel totally stupid.. lol

HipKat said:
My bad, now I feel totally stupid.. lol
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Nahh its impossible to keep up with everything going on..

[ZEN-KERNEL] On find7 and other Linux 3.4-based devices

Hi,
I'm from http://forum.xda-developers.com/nex...3-10-zen1-dollar-drink-night-bfs-msm-t3062814 and also on the nexus 9
It's cool to see somebody has noticed -zen kernel in a far off community such as the find 7.
Somebody noticed I mentioned I'd support -zen on a few flagships in addition to the nexus devices.
I explained the hurdle of having 3rd party testing for such a daunting task. My BFS work on android/3.10 has yielded nothing but positive feedback on the N6 and the 64-bit N9.
However, somebody here reached out to me and said "hey support us, we are active but we don't have enough developers here"
I would happily do this but I have observed the find 7 is using a 3.4 kernel. In order to do the work with BFS I will likely have to reboot and flash to it dozens of times per hour, pull logs constantly, test all situations for kernel errors, etc.
Before you say "oh he just wants us to buy him a new phone sick son of a b*&$&$&$"
No not at all, what I need to bring Zen to the find7 (and likely other devices like the N5 and N7 - who I have maintainers for a future BFS patch already in place, they just need the patches) is anybody who is willing to volunteer any 3.4 Linux kernel running android device, with an unlocked bootloader
It can be broken, damaged, hold no charge as long as the screen is mostly legible and runs 3.4, unlocked bootloader, etc. I will probably need no more than 1-2 weeks with it, so if anybody volunteered I will happily send it back to them as soon as I'm done with it.
Somebody here asked me, I told them I can't possibly do it on 2nd hand testing (not that itnisnt greatly appreciated) but for a task like this it isn't ideal. if I get 1 hour to work it's much faster to just do itnall myself and flash maybe dozens of times versus sending test builds and waiting for reply and secondary logs, etc.
Thanks,
B

My endeavor to bring it to the nexus 9, which I do not own was successful but finding testers for that thing was basically impossible. Little interest and little users overall (I almost backed out but since I finished the patch for tegra I released it blindly and it works well)

Someone give this man some help! I want a custom kernel for my Find 7a.

Have you tried the oppo forums? I'd let you use mine if you're in the Chicago/north west Indiana area

wergrun said:
Have you tried the oppo forums? I'd let you use mine if you're in the Chicago/north west Indiana area
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If he is not living there, would you send it if I would pay for the parcel (both ways)?
Just want to make this happen so badly but this is all I can do as I dont have a device on me I could send ):

znarf2369 said:
If he is not living there, would you send it if I would pay for the parcel (both ways)?
Just want to make this happen so badly but this is all I can do as I dont have a device on me I could send ):
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I might but I'll need a backup device. Closest is an old beat up iPhone 3gs who's apps don't even work!
I'll try to find something cheap with an sdcard or rough it out for two weeks

wergrun said:
I might but I'll need a backup device. Closest is an old beat up iPhone 3gs who's apps don't even work!
I'll try to find something cheap with an sdcard or rough it out for two weeks
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alright just let me know (;

Just to ask quickly, which ROMs would u support with ur kernel? I have tried CM12 and I am now on NamelessROM which I am loving.
I know some kernel DEVs only like to work for one ROM, or only for the stock OS of the device.
Thank u for wanting to work on our device, it seems like all the DEVs went for the OnePlus One, and everyone forgot about the blatantly better Oppo (lolz)

wergrun said:
I might but I'll need a backup device. Closest is an old beat up iPhone 3gs who's apps don't even work!
I'll try to find something cheap with an sdcard or rough it out for two weeks
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found anything so far?
the problem is I really would like to help but my device I could send is in germany (relatively high costs for shipping to usa and back to germany, about 130 $) and I am located in New Zealand right now so even if I would I cant because I dont have any access to the phone..

i would love to test it for you!