[Q] Just asking. - G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Does the G2 have to be rooted in order to get Gingerbread?

No. It'll all over the android news when it is finally released for what phones and such. The g2 will get it for sure. Unless you root your phone and then get gingerbread from a custom rom.
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There are likely to be custom ROMs with Gingerbread way before HTC officially releases it for our phones. And to have a custom ROM you'll need root and S-OFF.
But you can stay non-rooted and just wait for the official update if you like.

steviewevie said:
There are likely to be custom ROMs with Gingerbread way before HTC officially releases it for our phones. And to have a custom ROM you'll need root and S-OFF.
But you can stay non-rooted and just wait for the official update if you like.
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Cool thx for the info guys.

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Before going to Official Froyo, think about this...

Yes, I understand the Official Froyo maybe more stable since it's more updated and complete than the leaked Froyo in custom ROM. But really is it worth the upgrade?? What I mean, when you upgrade to official froyo you will loose your root, and possibly a new updated radio that would maybe need "Paul" time to hack again. Without the root, it may not be possible to change to different ROM. I am pretty sure, once those official FROYO is out...there would be lots of different custom ROM MOD based on Official FROYO available?? Also looking at my past experience with HTC, once this official 2.2 update is available, they wont update very often anymore. It maybe better to stay with custom ROM since those cooks tend to get newer system kernel somewhere. I guess for me, even if the update is out, I will just wait out till someone make new custom ROM based on this official FROYO? cheer...that's just my opinion.
^^^what he said^^^^ +1
Most, if not all people will be waiting for a rooted version. I'll be amazed if people unroot just to get it, when it'll be modded in no time. The test release by udk is a prime example.
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kuailan said:
Yes, I understand the Official Froyo maybe more stable since it's more updated and complete than the leaked Froyo in custom ROM. But really is it worth the upgrade?? What I mean, when you upgrade to official froyo you will loose your root, and possibly a new updated radio that would maybe need "Paul" time to hack again. Without the root, it may not be possible to change to different ROM. I am pretty sure, once those official FROYO is out...there would be lots of different custom ROM MOD based on Official FROYO available?? Also looking at my past experience with HTC, once this official 2.2 update is available, they wont update very often anymore. It maybe better to stay with custom ROM since those cooks tend to get newer system kernel somewhere. I guess for me, even if the update is out, I will just wait out till someone make new custom ROM based on this official FROYO? cheer...that's just my opinion.
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Gingerbread
Agree with the original poster's sentiments. Also worth considering that this could very easily be the last major update for HTC to roll out to the Desire. There's already a newer generation of devices out and HTC have no incentive to keep us at the leading edge. I got a clear taste of this with my previous HTC Magic - dropped by Vodafone like an unwanted toy once they started selling newer devices. Thankfully it was completely unlocked and I could flash all the custom ROMs on that which I liked but since it was a 32B if I had gone official and somehow ended up there I'd have been left behind at 1.6.
I "upgraded" from Hero (which I liked pretty much) to Desire about a month ago, and it's still unrooted. I rooted and installed a custom ROM to my Hero (a couple of weeks before the official 2.1 came out) and I was far from impressed. It became slow and laggy, the available RAM was way below than on the original 1.5 etc. I assume that I should've try other ROMs as well but at a certain point I just got tired so I switched to Desire. I love the way it is. It's fast, responsive and I enjoy all the possibilities of the hardware. I can even impress my iPhone friends with a little smile on my face.
The guy I sold my Hero just updated to the official OTA 2.1 a couple of days ago. Guess what? It's flying! I wouldn't believe it if I couldn't see with my own eyes.
I love what you guys do here. I really do. I'm amazed and impressed with all the work and effort you put in these custom ROMs. I'm reading all the interesting threads, tips, tricks etc. It's good to have a place like this board. It's good to have full control over our handsets, install software others can't. But I kinda like the way HTC puts together and tests its ROMs even if it's bloated with stuff I'll never use. I'll check for updates every hour this weekend Cos I'm eager to try all the new features. Maybe later I'll switch to a custom ROM which is based on the official, but for now I'm focusing on the "Check now" button
even though it hurts to say so.. but I agree
kuailan said:
Yes, I understand the Official Froyo maybe more stable since it's more updated and complete than the leaked Froyo in custom ROM. But really is it worth the upgrade?? What I mean, when you upgrade to official froyo you will loose your root, and possibly a new updated radio that would maybe need "Paul" time to hack again. Without the root, it may not be possible to change to different ROM. I am pretty sure, once those official FROYO is out...there would be lots of different custom ROM MOD based on Official FROYO available?? Also looking at my past experience with HTC, once this official 2.2 update is available, they wont update very often anymore. It maybe better to stay with custom ROM since those cooks tend to get newer system kernel somewhere. I guess for me, even if the update is out, I will just wait out till someone make new custom ROM based on this official FROYO? cheer...that's just my opinion.
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Why would it not possible to root back after unrooting? Since rooting is now riskfree...
What I would like is a standard final realease, rooted and A2SD+'ed, thats it, no other mod`s.
as long as froyo doesn't modify the hboot to a new version, you can always rollback and unroot.
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Why would it not possible to root back after unrooting? Since rooting is now riskfree...
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Because the leaked froyo came with a new HBOOT (which was removed by devs here) which at the moment is unrootable. And may be unrootable forever!
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coercri said:
What I would like is a standard final realease, rooted and A2SD+'ed, thats it, no other mod`s.
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Me too
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coercri said:
What I would like is a standard final realease, rooted and A2SD+'ed, thats it, no other mod`s.
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Agreed, I finally took the plunge to root and A2SD, the latter of which is amazing Is it really too much to ask for, just to install apps on the SD?
I will wait for Froyo Official-based custom ROMS!
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Me too
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That would be perfect..! And wake phone with the select button.
I was near to unroot and and go back to the normal rom. But now not anymore after what u guys said. Thx.
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So if someone buy a HTC desire after the update he may not be able to get root ever. Lucky us!
Sent from my HTC Desire using my fingers.
I highly doubt no one is ever going to be able to root if they officially upgrade to 2.2. It will happen, it might just take a while that's all for Paul and co. to do it..
I think that all of you that says that the new Hboot could not be hacked, underestimate many very very skilled peoples knowledge. Just because it isn't cracked now, it not equal to *incrackable*.
I am very certain that it will be cracked or something else and then root access can be achieved again.

[Q] Should i root or update to Froyo?

buying a desire soon and doing some researching and since the official froyo update is out, should i root or just update it?
Root and then install Neophyte 1.6. It's a custom rom that gives you a good stockish version of Froyo plus all the fixes that are needed making better than OTA Froyo.
OTA Froyo is buggy and should not have been released imo.
root but only if you understand it or if will be of any benefit to you, as if your phone breaks, the warrenty will be void!!!
I suggest buying it, keeping it stock - as htc will update it with fixes, and then seeing if root is really needed for you??? hope this helps, and btw, there are polls to see what roms peopls use on here so dont take one persons opinion in which rom to use, ie i used open desire v1.0c and i prefer that but everyone has different opinions.
I have rooted and updated to froyo but only because I am an eager beaver lol If I was you and not on Virgin Mobile then I would just wait for the OTA update and not bother with root tbh
@aunger90 do you have a link to this poll?

[Q] What is the best way to root htc desire z?

Hi
I know that this was discussed many times.
but could you tell me what is the easiest/safer way to root/S-off htc desire z?
All posts I can find are quite old.
Thanks
Wiki method is considered by most here to be the safest.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=HTC_Vision#Rooting_the_Vision_.28G2.2FDZ.29_and_DHD
thank you.
wiki probly safest....i dont got a cpu so i did gfree...took me bout hour (i know im slow but im brickless)
pimped out g2
I'm not rooted. If I have upgraded to 2.3.3 can I still use the gfree v0.5 method?
BW91961 said:
I'm not rooted. If I have upgraded to 2.3.3 can I still use the gfree v0.5 method?
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If you want to be rooted, I'd stay away from any official updates. No official updates have been rootable for some time. And I think people that have updated to the official Gingerbread T-Mobile G2 ROM are having trouble even downgrading in order to root. There is a pre-rooted (but otherwise "official") G2 T-Mobile Gingerbread ROM posted in the Development section. If you want the Sense GB ROM, you should wait until a pre-rooted version is posted here. You would still need to root and gfree in order to flash either of those.
Thanks RedPoint. Going to hold off for now. I love the official gingerbread. I just want screenshot and over-clocking capability.

[Q] Stock google roms

Sorry if this is a noob question but I did quite a bit of searching and could not find anything.
Is it possible to install stock google roms on a DZ? I would really like to install the latest version then have it update itself by OTA. My phone is rooted and currently running Cyanogen Mod 7.1.
Thanks!
Id stick with cm7 from my personal experience its close to stock android Rome and it runs remarkably well
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max512 said:
Sorry if this is a noob question but I did quite a bit of searching and could not find anything.
Is it possible to install stock google roms on a DZ? I would really like to install the latest version then have it update itself by OTA. My phone is rooted and currently running Cyanogen Mod 7.1.
Thanks!
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Yes, it is possible to run stock android roms on a DZ, there are several different variants out there right now. Just for example there's virtuous g-lite (look in the dev section or on virtuous' homepage) which is currently on version 2.3.5 I believe. A more up-to-date rom seems to be this one: 2.3.7 (please read the op, some issues still remain).
Though, as far as I know, you will not be able to receive OTAs as these are pushed to your phone by your carrier. If you want to receive OTAs on a DZ you will have to revert back to a stock sense rom.
Any ROM that works on the G2 works on the Desire Z (as long as you are rooted and S-Off, which you obviously are if you are on CM7). So if you want, just go to the Developement section and you will find pre-rooted versions of the G2 AOSP ("stock Google") ROMs. But make sure the ROM is pre-rooted. If you install an "official" ROM that is not pre-rooted, you will lose root, and need to go through the whole process again.

[Q] Can I upgrade my rooted Desire to Gingerbread 2.3?

The title basically says it all.
I'm wondering if I can upgrade my HTC desire to gingerbread 2.3, but still be able to add custom ROMs and all the other freedom you get with a rooted phone.
Thanks
You can flash a gingerbread custom rom, yes. Just look in the desire development forum.
No, what I mean is the new HTC Desire Android 2.3 Upgrade was released couple months ago.
I'm currently on Android 2.2 Froyo, but I'm wanting to update to gingerbread 2.3, but at the same time I want to be able to install custom ROMS.
Flashing an official release will unroot your phone and replace your recovery. There are many custom roms based on this release that if you flash will not unroot your phone or replace your recovery like the RUU said.
So like I said in my last post..
You can flash a gingerbread custom rom, yes. Just look in the desire development forum.
All this information is a basic requirement to being rooted. I am surprised you don't know this.
Ah, I see. Thank you
And yeah, I'm noob
Everyone is at some point
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Some people are n00bs because they don't know things.
Most people are n00bs because of their behavior.
yes, you can

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