[Q] Remove OrangeUK Bloatwear (after root) - Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

The Memory on the Desire is very limited. Orange have not helped this. I want to remove UNO, Tetris, That bowling game, The Traffic camera etc. In order to claw back that precious 10Mb or so, and be rid of the low disk space icon.
I've just rooted my phone. (can see and open the superuser icon). I followed this, and it worked: http://www.thedroiddemos.com/2010/0...desire-with-unrevoked-3-21-video-walkthrough/
Was under the impression that this would allow me to uninstall the Pre-loaded Orange apps. Clearly not. SO...
Installed titanium backup. Tried to uninstall UNO, Didnt work. Tried to Force uninstall uno, didnt work and scared me to death with a strange android logo + exclamation mark.
My phone is fine, but UNO is still there clinging to that precious Mb of space.
Please can someone explain how to get rid of this bloatware? Preferably without having to flash a new ROM.

Best thing is to just debrand the phone and put a stock WWE ROM onto it. then you can re-root that and have some fun.
Just download a stock ROM from HERE (I recommend 2.29.405.2), make a gold card and run the RUU file with the gold card in the phone and HTC Sync showing connected on the PC

Sorry to burst your bubble, but uninstalling those apps wont give you ANY extra space you can use, neither will flashing a different rom.
The orange bloatware is on the system partition, you want space on the data partition.
The only way to get more space is apps2sd. I recommended flashing a custom rom that supports olschool apps2sd and partition your sdcard.

But flashing a stock ROM will at least get rid of them!

Well... thats me a bit gutted then.
Does this mean that all the ringtones/notifications are also on the System Partition?
The low disk space icon has been a real pain. My contract is only a tenner a month. Might just wait till after xmas and get the new Desire HD.
Was watching a video on Youtube about root explorer, and how that might be an option to remove preloaded guff, but I guess it was a different carrier.
Cheers for the help guys.

Yes, the internal memory is for apps you download and data for apps you use on the phone

Look in the forum for " HOW TO: Delete System Applications On Rooted Phones"
They can be deleted and it does get space back !...
I got rid of all the odd demo's etc... and the media ( rigntones etc )... fab... and yes my phone is fast once more !!...
A new rom ...if you want .. no need ...
but you have to be ROOT !!! ( unrevoked + gold card )

It does NOT get the space back, System apps are on the /system partition which downloaded apps aren't saved to

You might get some space back (if your lucky) by going into application settings and clear data for these apps. Will probably only be a small amount though.

Cheers m8, have been through and done that.
One other question... if its not possible to delete these apps to get more space and be rid of the "low disk space" notification... is there a way to stop the notification showing so early? It seems to pop up once I get to about 15mb... it doesnt really need to be there till im down to the last 5mb does it?

It's true that you won't get space back by deleting apps form /system but you can move apps (that don't update often) from /data to /system to fill the system partition again and gain some space back in /data.

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[Q] How can I run CopyProtect apps from SD, to save built in storage space??

Ok I'm sure most Slide owners have run into problems with space on the phone, luckily for most apps you can move them and run from the SD card (w/ 2.2).
However with other apps that i have paid for - "documents to go" and and a few others labeled as "copy protected", even as root, I cant seem to find a way to move the apps to SD and run them from the external storage. I have no interest in pirating apps... but the ones i have paid for i think i should be able to run them from wherever... and my slide is seriously running out of space... as once you get the dreaded "low space warning" certain google and other apps fail to work / sync properly...
Does anyone have any ideas suggestions to circumvent and RUN the "copy protected" apps from the SDcard (I dont care about backing up apps... just want to run the apps i paid for from the SD card)
Also I have noticed that some google apps that can be downloaded from the market (maps, etc) also cannot be moved to SD... Additionally i have found that when there is a new version of an app available the new app sometimes does not ' get rid of ' or ' replace ' the old app so even small apps can take up a lot of space unless apps are periodically un-installed and then reinstalled.. for instance last time i checked "opera MINI" app was taking up 10MB, (with cache cleaned etc...) but after uninstall and re-install of "Opera Mini" now its like 1.1MB...
But it would really help to figure out how to move & run my paid apps from the SD card...
steve_77 said:
Ok I'm sure most Slide owners have run into problems with space on the phone, luckily for most apps you can move them and run from the SD card (w/ 2.2).
However with other apps that i have paid for - "documents to go" and and a few others labeled as "copy protected", even as root, I cant seem to find a way to move the apps to SD and run them from the external storage. I have no interest in pirating apps... but the ones i have paid for i think i should be able to run them from wherever... and my slide is seriously running out of space... as once you get the dreaded "low space warning" certain google and other apps fail to work / sync properly...
Does anyone have any ideas suggestions to circumvent and RUN the "copy protected" apps from the SDcard (I dont care about backing up apps... just want to run the apps i paid for from the SD card)
Also I have noticed that some google apps that can be downloaded from the market (maps, etc) also cannot be moved to SD... Additionally i have found that when there is a new version of an app available the new app sometimes does not ' get rid of ' or ' replace ' the old app so even small apps can take up a lot of space unless apps are periodically un-installed and then reinstalled.. for instance last time i checked "opera MINI" app was taking up 10MB, (with cache cleaned etc...) but after uninstall and re-install of "Opera Mini" now its like 1.1MB...
But it would really help to figure out how to move & run my paid apps from the SD card...
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Look for Dark Tremors Apps2SD in the development section. This will create a partition on your SD card that will allow apps be be moved. Unlike the default Apps2SD in CM, this should allow those specific apps to be moved.
is there any new updates on how to do this i tried installing dark tremors - but could not get it to work.... has there been any progress in this area? Is there some special way to install/use dtapps2sd-2.7.5.3-beta04-signed.zip?
HEY dud have you ever tried data2ext, it partitions a space in your memory card to not only install apps2sd, but that extra data that is eating up your phone space. I do not know if this will fix your copy protected issue, but before my phone only had 150mb space MAX! (on CM7 by the way, wtf!?!?) after i did the data 2 ext, my phone has over 472mb of free space and i have well over 50-100 apps installed and it takes no more than 70mb! (and i dont even have all of my apps on sd yet, it is about 5 or 6 apps with well over 10mb-20mb still on the phone memory. search these forums and i promise you it is on here!!!
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How to regain lost internal memory

I bought my Wildfire S in Singapore. It's S-On so I can't do anything about internal memory issues yet. The phone only ever had about 30MB free at the most after me installing some very basic apps, and it constantly prevented new apps from being installed with that "Not enough memory" error. Then something began chewing up memory no matter what I did - and I tried everything mentioned on these and other forums. I've become a minor expert at messing with the SDK as a result. Eventually basic functions stopped working, and the phone started rebooting randomly because it was down to a few hundred kilobytes of free RAM. I almost - almost - threw the thing against a wall and went out and got another phone.
However, I have solved the problem to a point. I did a simple factory reset, and now with everything installed including Google+ and Facebook (which are memory hogs), and everything I can moved to the SD card, I'm sitting at around 75MB free constantly i.e. half the memory. The phone now runs as fast as it can (which is sluggish because it's the Wildfire S, but much better than it was), and I have no memory issues. It's not a Nokia N9 or an iPhone 4Gs, but it's not a bad little unit now.
TL;DR no matter where you bought your phone, do a factory reset. You'll be glad you did.
get cyanogen mod7 for ur phone a safe build and extract it with 7zip the use fastboot
fastboot flash boot boot.img
it contains recovery already now copy the zip downloaded to a root of sd card
sdcard/update/....zip
now boot into recovery factory data reset then wipe dalvik data and install zip from sd
here u go
free memory+
app2sd
I'm not sure what you mean (and haven't tried all that), but I'm fairly certain you can't over-write/boot any other system files on an S-On phone. It just won't work. Unless you S-Off the phone manually, or HTC release an unlocked bootloader, there's nothing you can do except what I've offered.
The temporary rooting via the SDK and Zerg file doesn't allow overwriting of the system files either. S-On is a *****.
Have you tried removing the security?
A factory reset did my WildfireS a great deal good. I'm wary of installing Facebook and merging contacts because I think that's what ate all the memory and made Contact Storage take so much space.
Now I have all the same apps installed from before (except Facebook) and I have 92mb free.
Where did you get your phone from t0lkien1?
Mine is a T-Mobile UK handset, and they put all their own extra rubbish on the phone, eating into they little 128mb that there is internatly. I think there as about 20mb free when I got it. Was running version 1.34
Even with my phone as S-ON i've managed to get the stock European rom 1.30 and it is close to 60mb free. Plus no more T-Mobile splash screens and apps. Such a difference.

Update troubles with my Wildfire S

This has been a problem with my device since the very begining, and I would like to know if it's a general problem with Android, if it's a specific problem with the Wildfire S, or if it's just that god hates me and he gives me the devices with all the horrible bugs (see this thread for my other inexplicable bug that no one else seems to have).
Sometimes, when I go into the market and try and download app updates, the update goes through it's process of installation, the progress bar fills up and everything... then right as it's about to finish I get an error. "Update failed, please try again." It's very inconsistent too, sometimes I'll try and download an update a few times, and on the third attempt it gets it. Other times the app won't be able to update for months at a time. My mobile has been trying to get an update for "Cut the Rope" for over 3 weeks now. It gets so annoying I turn the WiFi off because he keeps throwing "Updates Available!" notifications at me that are completely useless to me.
Anyone else have this? Or is my WF-S just cursed?
Philippe Lemay said:
This has been a problem with my device since the very begining, and I would like to know if it's a general problem with Android, if it's a specific problem with the Wildfire S, or if it's just that god hates me and he gives me the devices with all the horrible bugs (see this thread for my other inexplicable bug that no one else seems to have).
Sometimes, when I go into the market and try and download app updates, the update goes through it's process of installation, the progress bar fills up and everything... then right as it's about to finish I get an error. "Update failed, please try again." It's very inconsistent too, sometimes I'll try and download an update a few times, and on the third attempt it gets it. Other times the app won't be able to update for months at a time. My mobile has been trying to get an update for "Cut the Rope" for over 3 weeks now. It gets so annoying I turn the WiFi off because he keeps throwing "Updates Available!" notifications at me that are completely useless to me.
Anyone else have this? Or is my WF-S just cursed?
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Try clearing your cache. How much room have you got on your cache partition and in your data paritions?
It has to download a 15 meg or whatever installer for Cut the rope, then unpacking it then install it then delete the original installer. That takes more than 15 megs.
How do I clear the cache?
Also, can't it use my microSD? I have a 32GB card in there.
Philippe Lemay said:
How do I clear the cache?
Also, can't it use my microSD? I have a 32GB card in there.
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Use it for what? Can you give me some details? Is your phone S-OFF, rooted, etc?. How much internal memory do you have right now, etc.
d33ps1x said:
Use it for what? Can you give me some details? Is your phone S-OFF, rooted, etc?. How much internal memory do you have right now, etc.
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You said that when an app is downloaded it needs to first download a 15 MB "cache partition", I was wondering why it can't use some of the space on the microSD. As for rooting, I have a GSM Wildfire S, from what I understand those are difficult to Root... so no, I've never rooted it, and I don't think it's S-Off (I'm not sure how to check that...)
I think I have 31 MB of free internal memory capacity...
pm setInstallLocation 2 and Apps2SD with Tutorial
Forget all you heard from me before as it seems to have served to confuse you which is fine. No worries.
Read this thread
Where it says to type "adb shell pm setInstallLocation" instead to be safe type:
"adb shell pm setInstallLocation 2" which tells the phone to try to install an app to your sd card by default. 0 is auto and 1 is internal.
Keep in mind that it doesn't move 100% of the app to the phone. App libraries, Dalvik cache data and application cache data will stay on the internal memory but it will buy you some space.
That's it.
PS:
Go somewhere and get your phone XTC-Clipped. You will have a lot more options to create space such as Link2SD which moves the apps, app libraries and dalvik cache files to a second external partition you create.
The nice thing about it is DOES allow you to move widget apps and they work.
Another nice thing about it is when you put your phone into usb mass storage mode, even though the primary partition on it with all your own data, pics etc, gets unmounted in the phone and unusable, the second partition doesn't unmount and you can still run all your apps that are linked to it.
Get clipped! If you have enough for a 32 GB card you have enough to spend $20 to get your phone clipped.
Now
When you are done this REBOOT your phone.
Go to this Android Marketplace link and download apps2sd
WATCH the video tutorial and then start moving apps off your internal memory to your SD card.
Beware not to move things that have widgets you want to use like say Doubletwist music player or Battery Monitor. The widgets will no longer function.
Somewhere in that program is a clear application cache choice as well. Clean up your cache for more room.
30 megs is not enough to download AND install Cut The Rope to your internal memory plus your auto sync will stop working when you drop below 18 megs or so of internal space.
Buy yourself some S-ON room with that setup.
If you want to move individual programs to or from the SD card to the phone and back, etc, you can go to /Settings/Applications/Manage/ scroll to and click on the application in question and choose the option to "Move to Phone" or "Move to SD Card".
Cheers.
I see... and this is all low risk right? I mean, getting updates to Cut the Rope would be nice, but it's not the biggest priority in the world, lol.
Also... I'm working on getting that Clip, if I have to I might just buy one... 67$ would still be cheaper than going out to buy a Nexus (from what I hear those are the easiest to Root). This clip would work with a GSM device right? That's how it does it's thing, by plugging into the SIM slot?

[Q] moving apps and game data?

Just got a GT N7100 few days ago. rooted it. i have lots of games installed like max payne, gta3 etc. so all my storage is gone. i want to ask how do i move games and apps to external sd? can i backup game data which is everytime whopping over 1gb so that i do not need to download it again if i reinstall any game. is there any way to move gamedata to ext. sd?
and:victory: i just got idea if i do not uninstall game back but just backup gamedata and delete it from phone to free up memory and when i need app i just move back data to its original location which is usually android data, will it work.
i have 300 mb free space and now my phone doesnt allow me to install an app even less than 1mb of size..any idea......thanks in advance.......:good:
Moving to external sd has been asked and answered before. Here is one I replied to: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2010235
"can i backup game data which is everytime whopping over 1gb so that i do not need to download it again if i reinstall any game"
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No if you want to use the same files/folders on another phone. The game downloads files for your specs, not for other phones.
If its for your or another Note 2 then it might work if the game has not been updated since your backup. If it has been updated it might need the new files.
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what about if i do not uninstall game back but just backup gamedata and delete gamedata from phone to free up memory and when i need app i just move back data to its original location which is usually android data, will it work and yes i will be doing this on same phone.
That will probably work unless you open it by a mistake. Maybe not if it has the permission to run at startup. It could look for the files then, and not find any.
Both of the solutions i linked to works for me.
Directory Bind is most useful for me with this phone.
And then you don't have to wait for the copying every time you want to play a game.
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can u shed some light on directory blind and how to use it?
I used this guide: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1889550
Remember that apps with root access can do everything they want with your phone, including making it as usefull as a brick.
Don't use an app with root access until you think you understand a little of what it does, and you have read a few reviews/posts about it.
Be extra careful with root apps that are not in the Play store/Market. This is not. Why are they not there? Maybe because Google rejected it because it does bad things?
I wanted all of the data in the folder DirectoryBind on my external SD card. What you are supposed to do then (step 2 in that guide) is change the default data path to /mnt/extSdCard/DirectoryBind. I wrote /extSdCard/DirectoryBind because my Galaxy S II had a link to the microSD card there. The Note II does not, so the /mnt/ is important
Took me a while to realize what was wrong...
Thanks man .. DB did the job.....everything s now fine.
Startup soung stopped working?
hey man ! after installing DB startup tone doesnt work..any ideas?
The Samsung tone when you turn on the phone? I don't want that, so let me know if you find out what removed it.

can i delete apps from stock rom to save space?

i guys, i have a Stock Room GN2 GT-N7100-Ver. 4.1.2-Ver. Base Band N7100ublh2. is ROOTED, and i install the titanium backup app. and a i realized that from this app. i cant delete apps from the play store (guess more than one kno this:silly, so i want to know , if i can delete apps or packages fron my stock room if so, what apps or packages can i delete from the stock rom with out having problems with the divice?
thanks in advance for ur support.
vrgolin said:
i guys, i have a Stock Room GN2 GT-N7100-Ver. 4.1.2-Ver. Base Band N7100ublh2. is ROOTED, and i install the titanium backup app. and a i realized that from this app. i cant delete apps from the play store (guess more than one kno this:silly, so i want to know , if i can delete apps or packages fron my stock room if so, what apps or packages can i delete from the stock rom with out having problems with the divice?
thanks in advance for ur support.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=32151346&postcount=1
yes read above thread for which application is safe to remove, but as per title of thread
if you are doing this to make space then note, these applications stores in System ROM and making free space on system ROM, you can not use that space to replace other user application.
many ppl removing this (bloatware) to enhance performance by preventing them to run in background, though it is also debate whether really how much this help. b''coz android itself have some function to keep process running in background to recall it fast. so if you remove bloatware, that will be replaced by other application till android feel RAM if full, and same time android will autokill background process to make more free space available.
Since your device is root, use Directory Bind to put big data from internal to SD. For instance, i use it for Wild Blood, saving up to 2Gb of internal space. The game take only a longer time to launch.
Instead of deleting apps and risking seeing my device brick, i use the Android 4.1 freeze option, i think it's safer to use it, you can't freeze needed system apps.
Deleting apps is not as useful as doing it with other phones since there is around 780Mb of free system space. To free internal memory, with Titanium you can move apps from internal to system.
If you use Instagram a lot, move Instagram pictures from /storage/sdcard0/Pictures to sd card. Setup the camera to write to SD card.
Ofcourse you can use this space? What prevents you from making regular user apps to system apps?
I would suggest freezing apps first with Titanium, then after several days, if nothing happens, you can remove them. I used to do this all the time on my DHD and do it for a few apps on my N7.

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