This has been a problem with my device since the very begining, and I would like to know if it's a general problem with Android, if it's a specific problem with the Wildfire S, or if it's just that god hates me and he gives me the devices with all the horrible bugs (see this thread for my other inexplicable bug that no one else seems to have).
Sometimes, when I go into the market and try and download app updates, the update goes through it's process of installation, the progress bar fills up and everything... then right as it's about to finish I get an error. "Update failed, please try again." It's very inconsistent too, sometimes I'll try and download an update a few times, and on the third attempt it gets it. Other times the app won't be able to update for months at a time. My mobile has been trying to get an update for "Cut the Rope" for over 3 weeks now. It gets so annoying I turn the WiFi off because he keeps throwing "Updates Available!" notifications at me that are completely useless to me.
Anyone else have this? Or is my WF-S just cursed?
Philippe Lemay said:
This has been a problem with my device since the very begining, and I would like to know if it's a general problem with Android, if it's a specific problem with the Wildfire S, or if it's just that god hates me and he gives me the devices with all the horrible bugs (see this thread for my other inexplicable bug that no one else seems to have).
Sometimes, when I go into the market and try and download app updates, the update goes through it's process of installation, the progress bar fills up and everything... then right as it's about to finish I get an error. "Update failed, please try again." It's very inconsistent too, sometimes I'll try and download an update a few times, and on the third attempt it gets it. Other times the app won't be able to update for months at a time. My mobile has been trying to get an update for "Cut the Rope" for over 3 weeks now. It gets so annoying I turn the WiFi off because he keeps throwing "Updates Available!" notifications at me that are completely useless to me.
Anyone else have this? Or is my WF-S just cursed?
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Try clearing your cache. How much room have you got on your cache partition and in your data paritions?
It has to download a 15 meg or whatever installer for Cut the rope, then unpacking it then install it then delete the original installer. That takes more than 15 megs.
How do I clear the cache?
Also, can't it use my microSD? I have a 32GB card in there.
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How do I clear the cache?
Also, can't it use my microSD? I have a 32GB card in there.
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Use it for what? Can you give me some details? Is your phone S-OFF, rooted, etc?. How much internal memory do you have right now, etc.
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Use it for what? Can you give me some details? Is your phone S-OFF, rooted, etc?. How much internal memory do you have right now, etc.
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You said that when an app is downloaded it needs to first download a 15 MB "cache partition", I was wondering why it can't use some of the space on the microSD. As for rooting, I have a GSM Wildfire S, from what I understand those are difficult to Root... so no, I've never rooted it, and I don't think it's S-Off (I'm not sure how to check that...)
I think I have 31 MB of free internal memory capacity...
pm setInstallLocation 2 and Apps2SD with Tutorial
Forget all you heard from me before as it seems to have served to confuse you which is fine. No worries.
Read this thread
Where it says to type "adb shell pm setInstallLocation" instead to be safe type:
"adb shell pm setInstallLocation 2" which tells the phone to try to install an app to your sd card by default. 0 is auto and 1 is internal.
Keep in mind that it doesn't move 100% of the app to the phone. App libraries, Dalvik cache data and application cache data will stay on the internal memory but it will buy you some space.
That's it.
PS:
Go somewhere and get your phone XTC-Clipped. You will have a lot more options to create space such as Link2SD which moves the apps, app libraries and dalvik cache files to a second external partition you create.
The nice thing about it is DOES allow you to move widget apps and they work.
Another nice thing about it is when you put your phone into usb mass storage mode, even though the primary partition on it with all your own data, pics etc, gets unmounted in the phone and unusable, the second partition doesn't unmount and you can still run all your apps that are linked to it.
Get clipped! If you have enough for a 32 GB card you have enough to spend $20 to get your phone clipped.
Now
When you are done this REBOOT your phone.
Go to this Android Marketplace link and download apps2sd
WATCH the video tutorial and then start moving apps off your internal memory to your SD card.
Beware not to move things that have widgets you want to use like say Doubletwist music player or Battery Monitor. The widgets will no longer function.
Somewhere in that program is a clear application cache choice as well. Clean up your cache for more room.
30 megs is not enough to download AND install Cut The Rope to your internal memory plus your auto sync will stop working when you drop below 18 megs or so of internal space.
Buy yourself some S-ON room with that setup.
If you want to move individual programs to or from the SD card to the phone and back, etc, you can go to /Settings/Applications/Manage/ scroll to and click on the application in question and choose the option to "Move to Phone" or "Move to SD Card".
Cheers.
I see... and this is all low risk right? I mean, getting updates to Cut the Rope would be nice, but it's not the biggest priority in the world, lol.
Also... I'm working on getting that Clip, if I have to I might just buy one... 67$ would still be cheaper than going out to buy a Nexus (from what I hear those are the easiest to Root). This clip would work with a GSM device right? That's how it does it's thing, by plugging into the SIM slot?
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I have used CM7 on my Incredible for a while now and have had to constantly wipe and reinstall every week or so. When i install, the ROM runs perfectly, with all my apps working and everything. After a few days though, most of my apps force close whenever I open them. Namely, messaging, Gmail, and browser force close, along with my market installed apps.
This has happened to me many times now and I can't figure out how to fix this issue. I have changed different options when installing the ROM and tried Fix Permissions in Rom Manager and nothing fixes it .
My friend's phone as well as my dad's have had this same issue on CM7 as well. Any help would be greatly aprreciated!
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I have used CM7 on my Incredible for a while now and have had to constantly wipe and reinstall every week or so. When i install, the ROM runs perfectly, with all my apps working and everything. After a few days though, most of my apps force close whenever I open them. Namely, messaging, Gmail, and browser force close, along with my market installed apps.
This has happened to me many times now and I can't figure out how to fix this issue. I have changed different options when installing the ROM and tried Fix Permissions in Rom Manager and nothing fixes it .
My friend's phone as well as my dad's have had this same issue on CM7 as well. Any help would be greatly aprreciated!
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Any ideas?
Check and make sure your data/data partition isn't full. If it is, grab a cache cleaner from the market to free up some space.
This actually happened to me earlier tonight.
Had to reinstall to get through the night til I got back home, but I may need to go back to another ROM if this keeps up. Glad to know I'm not the only one though.
Smabbage said:
Check and make sure your data/data partition isn't full. If it is, grab a cache cleaner from the market to free up some space.
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That's true, didn't think about that. Will I have to keep doing that more and more if i install more apps though?
This happens to me and all my friends phones with the cm7 final. They keep telling me its user error. We all have to clean wipe about once a week because of force closes. I finally switched it redemption rom
DROID Incredible
By the way i never had a single problem with the nightlies
DROID Incredible
06stang said:
By the way i never had a single problem with the nightlies
DROID Incredible
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If what Smabbage said is true then hopefully that'd make sense. That way when you consistently install the nightlies, there is no way for the data partition to fill up all the way. Good to know. thanks!
I've been fighting this exact same problem. The only way I can keep it from happening is to do a full wipe and let the Android Market reinstall most of the apps. Then I can use titanium to bring back the missing apps and system settings.
Here's the things I've tried, with no success:
Wipe Cache / Wipe Dalvik Cache
Fix Permissions
Nandroid Backup then Restore (ok so I didn't expect that to do much)
Uninstalling apps, moving apps to SD (using the Android method, not Apps2SD)
Another interesting thing is that I run Watchdog, but instead of force closing, it pops up a message saying "Disk IO Error in Watchdog". That makes me wonder if some partition (Cache, data, I dunno) is out of space or worse, there are physical problems with the internal memory of my Incredible.
I have one question for everyone - How do I see how much space is available on each partition? I mean, I can go to the Android settings and see App Data storage left or SD card space left, but is there an app or tool I can see that will show me each partition with space left?
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Another interesting thing is that I run Watchdog, but instead of force closing, it pops up a message saying "Disk IO Error in Watchdog". That makes me wonder if some partition (Cache, data, I dunno) is out of space or worse, there are physical problems with the internal memory of my Incredible.
I have one question for everyone - How do I see how much space is available on each partition? I mean, I can go to the Android settings and see App Data storage left or SD card space left, but is there an app or tool I can see that will show me each partition with space left?
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Had exactly same issue (even same Watchdog error) and Smabbage's answer was spot-on.
To check, open terminal emulator (gives you shell prompt) and do "df -k" - this will list all filesystems and, among other info, how full they are. My "/data/data" partition was full. Cleaned up some cache's and my phone is back in action.
Seems like a lot of games (and Netflix) fill the /data/data partition. Wonder if it is possible to make it larger at the expense of built in memory?
In any case, may be a good add-on to CM to monitor space in /data/data and give a reasonable warning when you close to running out.
I have been using CM7 for a while now and the apps that force close, are usually tied to the SD card. Try moving them to internal and see if it helps.
same here..
I use galnet miui (cm base)
after a few weeks, it shows 'disk io eror in watchdog'
and many programs fc.
never had this problem before.
someone can help me?
how can I fix this..
I know this is an old thread, but ive been searching around to see if other people have this problem.
i have found a temporary solution. open Root Explorer and go to /cache/dalvik-cache....use multi-select to select all items and then delete. reboot (IT WILL TAKE A WHILE TO REBOOT, IT IS REBUILDING, IT CAN TAKE UP TO 15MIN DONT PANIC) yes, this is in fact "wiping dalvik-cache" but ive gotten much better results doing it manually than through CWM.
this will calm your phone down at least for a few days with no force closes/service interruption, but you will have to do it again..........and again, and again. its better than having to do a full wipe though, obviously. hope this helps anyone who is still having this problem.
Hi everyone,
In panic mode right now...
I downloaded an app that helps you find all your apps that can be moved to the sd card. So it found 150 or so. After an hour of manually moving each one, I had over 400mb of free internal space and only like 40 apps left on the main phone storage. Awesome... but then this morning I noticed that things were running real slow... so I rebooted my phone. When it came back up I noticed some of my home screen shortcuts had become generic android icons. I went to my launcher & lots of apps were missing. I have a LOT of apps so I can't quite confirm yet whether its all the apps I moved to sd but it seems that way.
When I go to the market I see apps that I had yesterday as not installed. I have astro but I'm not quite sure what folder to look in to see if the apps are all still there, just not being seen by the android system maybe?
I've been driving all morning so I haven't gotten to research this much yet. Just rebooted a couple times hoping to fix it but no luck yet.
Any help is majorly appreciated. As soon as I'm at a computer ill be working on this all day. Freakin disaster!
Dave
Sent from my T-Mobile G2 using XDA App
update to my question
so now that i'm in to work i can mess with this... quick update...
when i go to manage applications and go to "on SD card" i get a big list of apps that have the names like "cn.miren.browser" instead of Miren Browser and "com.alphonso.pulse" instead of Pulse which is kinda normal except usually they then refresh with the regular name and the size listed underneath. well it's been sitting here for 5 minutes now and hasn't change and it still says "Computing..." under each one and instead of the normal icons, its sort of a grayed out generic Android icon with an SD in the bottom right corner of the icon.
so clearly it still knows that these apps are there. it just maybe can't access them? i dont know. could it be the sd card? this is the original 8gb sd card that came with the g2...
any thoughts?
???
so i found out that the sd card had some errors in the file system. so i let windows fix the errors. no help (although my phone boots WAAAAAYYYYYY faster now).
so then i found that i have an extra 8gb microsd laying around (which also happened to be a better, class 6 one too). so i cleared it off and copied over alllll the files to it. booted up. STILL NO GO.
anyone have any ideas here? i'm really running out of ideas here.
when i boot, everything runs great, but all my apps that are installed to sd are gone. also it never says "preparing sd card" in the status bar when booting. then if i go to manage applications it never finishes "computing" the size of apps. if i go to "on sd" it shows all my apps, but says computing, and i can't access them, uninstall them, move them, etc. i'm totally out of ideas here and i really don't want to have to do a system restore.
anyone?
think im having the same problem . has ur market gone too?
fix?
ok so i ended up getting mine fixed using these steps that someone from a company that makes an apps2sd app sent me... the only difference i had to do was since my phone also wouldn't recognize my pc, i had to pop the sd card into my pc directly to delete the .android_secure folder... i don't want to mess up your phone or anything so make sure to read around a bit more before trying this, but this is what worked for me. after i started adding all my apps back one by one i've been fine ever since.:
"I guess the problem is ".android_secure" is not recognized by Android.
Would you try the following steps (I am not sure if it works)?
1. mount phone with PC
2. backup all files under .android_secure
3. delete .android_secure directory
4. unmount
5. try to move an app (any app) to SD card (it forces Android to
create .android_secure on SD)
6. mount phone with PC
7. restore all backuped .android_secure/* files to .android_secure
8. unmount => check if it recognized the apps that you moved to the SD card"
Hi guys writing on this forum is now my last resort in the hopes may be someone has an idea what the hell is actually going on, my desire hd has been causing problems where when i update any of my apps they get stuck on installing, then i try to wipe the market data and cache but the whole system gets stuck on computing so i cant do anything, when i reboot the phone, the apps go away, all the sd apps dont appear, and the system still says computing for all the apps.....ive tried everything, i noticed when all this was going the android secure folder had some.-2 extensions although they werent duplicates so i moved all apps to internal storage, deleted the android secure folder and moved them all back, so they all had -1 extensions, phone worked fine for about 2 months until yesterday, was updating an app on 3g and it got stuck in the installing phase, computing came back, rebooted phone, no help, shutdown phone and back on again and all the apps were then read, took time to clear the mqrket data and cache, went to root explorer since i had stored it on phone storage, went to mnt, .asec and all the apps had the -1 extension, so now i dont know what to do....
Its a nightmare, cant update and everytime the apps do come back after repeated switching on and off of the phone, everytime i try to update an app it gets stuck on installing and computing comes back.....its wierd cuz ive changed the sd card, moved all apps from phone atorage to sd but the problems still there....right now i cant asses the sd apps, ill try rebooting and see of they come back again....ive backed manually all the android secure folder apps on my computer, ive noticed something wierd, when i move batch of 10 apps from computer to phone they are read fine and come up on the phone, i keep doing this in steps, manually mounting and then unmounting the sd card till all my apps qre transfered to the android secure folder and all are read just fine by the phone, but as soon as i do a reboot they all dissapear again, ive also noticed that when apps are working perfect they are located in the mnt, .asec directory when i view em theough root explorer, but when i the apps are not being read like right now they are located in the mnt, staging, .asec directory
Im sorry guys for the lengthy explanation but wanted to give as much information as possible, i guess what im saying is when i do manage to get my sd apps working by repeated rebooting of phone, everytime i try to update an app it gets stuck on installing and computing comes back so the whole process of reboot starts all over again, as that is the only way i can get the sd apps back....
Any help would be appreciated, thanks for the patience in reading all this, oh when the phone did work fine during the last 2 months, the only way i kept it going was because everytime i updated an app the ext-2 appeared on it, so i had to move it to phone and then back to sd card, i dont know if the -2 ext appearing is normal everytime u update an app but since i had exams going on i had to keep the phone working so i never took a chance of updating an app that was already on the -2 ext, but now i guess none of the apps are and the problems back for some reason...
Please ask questiona if this is gettin a whole lot confusing for some
any ideas
Guessing no one knows what i might be talking about then, any ideas would be helpful guys...
billy_87 said:
Guessing no one knows what i might be talking about then, any ideas would be helpful guys...
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OK the -2 just means there was already an app there when it updated. If you uninstall the app and reinstall it then it will be a -1 app again. From your first post it looks like you have alot of apps on your SD card? What calss is your SD card? Have you tried starting from scratch and reunstalling the apps from the market one by one to see it one app is causing the issue? From the statement about computing I would try a greasy start all together. Full wipe and reinstall the rom. Then your apps one by one. Will it be long? Yeah but its then only way to slim it down and find the issue.
thanks
Thabks zelendel, that really helped, strange that its happening, only some of the apps are giving e this problem, i just unistalled all the -2 and have reinstalled them, ill keep u updated if the problem goes away, im sure its cuz of the -2 s the app stalls and multiple reboots are needed to get them working again...whereas factory reset goes, oh boy thats gona be a long one, lets see how this one goes, ill keep u updated, and thanks again for all the help...
I have E4GT with Caulkins 2.9.1.
I have the following storage available on my device:
SD Card 24.25GB
USB Storage 3.25 GB
Device Memory 1.23 GB
I get the following error when trying to update apps, or install new apps:
"There is insufficient space on this device"
I have gone into settings>apps>google play> clear cache. -> no change
I have downloaded App Cache Cleaner app and cleared all cached files. -> no change
The error message is a lie written by a lazy programmer. What's actually happening is that the installation is trying to copy or move a file and can't. To circumvent this problem I have to enter root explorer and look for files related to the program I'm trying to upgrade and delete them. Sometimes I just find dangling files which aren't really needed; other times I have to delete the whole shebang and reinstall the program from scratch. One process that I've noticed can sometimes cause this problem is the auto-Odex routine that is available in the Development folder.
Bottom line though is that this problem has NOTHING to do with your available memory space.
Henri Blanche said:
The error message is a lie written by a lazy programmer. What's actually happening is that the installation is trying to copy or move a file and can't. To circumvent this problem I have to enter root explorer and look for files related to the program I'm trying to upgrade and delete them. Sometimes I just find dangling files which aren't really needed; other times I have to delete the whole shebang and reinstall the program from scratch. One process that I've noticed can sometimes cause this problem is the auto-Odex routine that is available in the Development folder.
Bottom line though is that this problem has NOTHING to do with your available memory space.
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How do I find dangling files in explorer. Is there a was for me to determine which ones are wasted files?
before i read your reply i went into recovery and wiped cached and dalvik cache, thought it worked, because i was finally able to install or update about 3 apps, but then got the same error on the 4th app.
so those steps that have been suggested by others on different devices but with similar errors, did not resolve this issue on E4GT.
thanks for any additional help.
This may help http://bit.ly/GNQOZh take a read. I fought this a while ago and went nuts till I did what I describe.
It's usually, but not always, as simple as looking for files with the name of the program imbedded. The most recent program for me was AudioGalaxy.... so I just searched for and deleted any reference to the program that didn't look essential.
If you're REALLY stumped, then download a program from the Market like Log Viewer, which shows you the real-time system log of your Android operating system. That's how I discovered that a failed file copy was being misinterpreted as a full disc in the first place. It also will show you the name of the file being copied or moved and into which directory. Helpful hint: cut and paste the log into something like Notepad for easier reading.
By all means empty out your caches... but only to remove a potential file that's causing you a problem. Like I said, you haven't run out of free space.
Good luck!
A common source for this error is also that there are partitions on your phone that are not visible in the system settings, but which can fill up too.
If you open a console on your device, i.e. with terminal emulator, and type "df" you should see every partition and how much space is free on it.
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This may help take a read. I fought this a while ago and went nuts till I did what I describe.
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I did this earlier, and then downloaded App Cache Cleaner app and cleared all cached files which did not result in a solution...
im working on other suggestions from this thread
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I did this earlier, and then downloaded App Cache Cleaner app and cleared all cached files which did not result in a solution...
im working on other suggestions from this thread
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App Cache Cleaner isn't really that thorough.
Try SD Maid.
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I did this earlier, and then downloaded App Cache Cleaner app and cleared all cached files which did not result in a solution...
im working on other suggestions from this thread
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You 'cleared data' on the media and still had this issue? http://mikemartinezonline.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/03.png I've had this issue a few times with a few people- again it just happed to me yesterday! Seems that the media storage, media hub, oovoodo, and some others were taking up huge amounst of space. In fact my media storage was at 800MB until I cleared it. Especially noticed this for me after adding and removing media and swapping different sd cards.
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You 'cleared data' on the media and still had this issue? ] I've had this issue a few times with a few people- again it just happed to me yesterday! Seems that the media storage, media hub, oovoodo, and some others were taking up huge amounst of space. In fact my media storage was at 800MB until I cleared it. Especially noticed this for me after adding and removing media and swapping different sd cards.
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I cleared the app cache there, and still had the issue. I also went into recovery and cleared cache, dalvik cache.
I didn't try the SDMaid method, so if someone else has this same problem, that may be a place to try.
I ended up starting with scratch with my device, and just upgraded to calkulin 2.9.2.
now my device is functioning as expected, and i can finally install angry birds space...
Well same problem shows up again.
updated to Calkulin 3.0, in hopes to resolve the problem, but still no go.
insufficient space when trying to install or update app from google play.
SD Card: 3.25GB Free / 29.7 GB
USB Storage: 7.29 Free / 11.50 GB
Device: 1.29 GB Free.
It's kind of annoying, is this something that would be resolved by going back to stock. This is getting a bit annoying.
thanks again.
Which app?
Edit: Have you tried clearing data for google play in settings/applications/all yet?
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I need help my sprint note 2 keeps saying sys memory is running low it show 7.4g used by misc files is there anyway to move these to my sd card without rooting because rooting looks pretty risky and complicated.
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I need help my sprint note 2 keeps saying sys memory is running low it show 7.4g used by misc files is there anyway to move these to my sd card without rooting because rooting looks pretty risky and complicated.
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I have used space analyzer and storage analyzer to see all the crap buried there and deleted it. These were left over form the previous flashes. Also your cache might be filling up, might want to try wipe cache+dalvik.
Glad to help as I just did this last weekend. There are threads here, but the Example for Dummies:
Get Odin and put that on your Laptop (3 minutes)
Get CF-AutoRoot and put Zip on your Laptop (3 minutes)
Load CF-AutoRoot into Odin, connect phone, click start in Oden, wait until complete (3-5 minutes)
Reboot, look at apps, you should see SuperSU, You have Root!!!
Next, get TriangleAway from Google Play (its here for free)
Then get FolderMount (free, but get paid for $1.99 for unlimited moves)
TriangleAway, this resets your phone status from "Modified" to "Normal" If your phone status is "Modified", OTA updates get messed up. In , settings, have this start on boot! (I will explain in a minute)
FolderMount open that on phone. Go to apps, it will show you all apps and their size. Press and hold. give link a name (usually the app name), destination (on the card, leave the default, normally same as source) Do this for all large programs/apps! You are limited to 3 links on the free version. Paid has unlimited! NOTE: Do not mess with device while data is moving. Let it run. Then on main screen, click pin on right, if it turns green. all done!
Next (and do not ask why, I'm not that technical) from the main screen, click the + to add a link. Manually link the DATA and FILE folder. This appears to contain most of the crap that fills up internal storage. NOTE: Do not mess with device while data is moving. Let it run. Then on main screen, click pin on right, if it turns green. all done. (These 2 will take some time to move)
Now, In settings in FolderMount: (1) click to have it launch on boot. (2) set delay for 2 minutes!! This is because, FolderMount "tricks" the system by creating links in internal storage to actual data on storage card. TriangleAway, upon boot. dismounts BOTH cards and removes SuperSU so phone boots as "Normal" first, Then when up, mounts cards and gives you back root.this can take a minute. FolderMount, upon boot, is attempting to assign these links to cards, which are not mounted yet, hence the 2 minute delay!!
I currently have 27GB on my external 64GB card, and using 4.3GB internal. Problem solved. Here are some links :to help you. Thank them!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1933542
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1494114
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2192122
Good Luck!