Hi all,
I followed the instructions for permaroot-ing my G2, and everything went smoothly (thanks to everyone who contributed). After obtaining permaroot, I was prompted to install the OTA update. After applying the update I lost root permissions (tried the "su" command on terminal emulator and ADB). I figured I would just follow the steps again for permaroot, but when I run VISIONary for temp root it says "You device is already rooted". Also, I've checked the bootloader, and I still have S-OFF. I'm wondering if anyone has encountered this issue, and if there is a way to regain permaroot. Any help would be much appreciated.
Thanks!
Yes well if your going to root NEVER apply an OTA. Now that you applied it and you still have s off just flash a custom rom. They all have root. If you want to stay stock and just gain root back use the rage method.
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Thanks
Shortlived,
Thanks for your response. I actually couldn't just flash a custom ROM because I didn't flash ClockworkMod recovery before applying the OTA update. Because I lost root, I couldn't actually flash the recovery after applying OTA. The rage method worked perfectly though and I'm back to root!
You should go ahead and flash a custom recovery (clockworkmod) and make a nandroid back up now since you have root again.
Mistakes happen, but, there's always nandroid.
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Hi All,
I just discovered a RUU 1.84.708.1. It is the localized version in my place.
I've already rooted and running ENG S-Off. After extracted the ROM image from RUU, I wonder how can I root (install superuser/busybox) and deodex the rom image before I flash it through CWM recovery?
Thanks in advance!
Anyone plz?
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Manual Deodexing:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=765270
Should be a way to apply these deodexing steps to the ROM pre-flash. I personally don't know how, but this would be the thread to ask about that in.
You could also ask how to root via cmd or terminal there.
Hope this helps in some way.
Hi All,
I tried to install the system.img inside the ruu and it was successful.
After that I attempted to used the rage/gfree method to gain a shell root. However, after the rooting process, whenever I start an app that asks superuser for root access, superuser force closes.
I've already gained eng s-off, but still not able to gain a shell root. Can anyone help on that?
IntegraR said:
Hi All,
I tried to install the system.img inside the ruu and it was successful.
After that I attempted to used the rage/gfree method to gain a shell root. However, after the rooting process, whenever I start an app that asks superuser for root access, superuser force closes.
I've already gained eng s-off, but still not able to gain a shell root. Can anyone help on that?
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Have you tested whether or not you have shell root through a terminal emulator? Your version of Superuser might just be out of date.
Hello there, I have DHD 2.2 stock HTC in with root. My phone is radio s-off and installed custom recovery.
Today I recived OTA update 2.3, I was told that having root phone prevent OTA update. However, I have it now and I don't know if I have to update or not.
Will I lose the root, s-off and custom recovery if I update?
Will I be able to root again and install custom recovery?
Having root prevents you from actually installing the Ota's. Since your stock rooted the phone will still notify you of updates(unless the Dev desables it). So if you would try to install it it would t work and most likely you'll get stuck screen with the exclamation point I believe.
If you want to update you will need to ruu up to 2.3, then you can reroot with gingerbreak. This method will erase everything so make sure to backup
Here's the link to the 2.3 ruu that you run from your computer. Thanks goes to andyharney for the link.
http://www.iloveabath.co.uk/index.php?dir=RUUs/
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Thanx for explanation, but I believes using RUU will return the phone s-on and remove the custom recovery. Is this correct?
The ruu will keep you s-off. It will delete the recovery but after you root using gingerbreak, you can reinstall it through rom manager
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Hi! I might jump into this thread because I have exactly the same situation (except I am not running a custom recovery) but I have a big issue.
The micro usb port on my DHD does not work anymore. I've put off getting it repaired as I have 4 spare batteries and 2 chargers, so I've been able to get by.
Can I still RUU, then Gingerbreak without using the micro usb port?
Cheers!
One other thing - I have the Australian DHD - I did not see a listing for an Australian RUU - Would I need to go find one or could I potentially use a WWE?
What about un-root my 2.2 using visonary then install 2.3 with OTA after that root it with gengerbrake? Is this good plan? Will this remove recovery and s-off?
@RaindancerAU:
Well, RUU needs the USB port. You could try copying a .zip file to the root of your sdcard, then go into Bootloader and update it through there.
(You can get the .zip file from the RUU by opening the RUU.exe file and press 'Next' untill you reach the 'Checking device' - or something like that - part. Then just press - 'Windows key + r' - type %temp% and search the folders for a .zip file called ROM.)
As for you other question. If your phone is branded to a specific carrier, then using the carrier-specific RUU is recommended. If your phone isnt branded, ... , WWE is fine!
What about un-root my 2.2 using visonary then install 2.3 with OTA after that root it with gengerbrake? Is this good plan? Will this remove recovery and s-off?
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Gingerbreak requires S-OFF. By OTA'ing' S-OFF will still remain, but recovery will be replaced with the originnal HTC recovery.
So if you had S-OFF before updating, then Gingerbreak will work, hopefully
CodeNameUnknown1 said:
Gingerbreak requires S-OFF. By OTA'ing' S-OFF will still remain, but recovery will be replaced with the originnal HTC recovery.
So if you had S-OFF before updating, then Gingerbreak will work, hopefully
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Thx, I will give a try...
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I have a similar scenario.
my phone came with 2.2 and I used the advanced ace hack kit and it successfully rooted, s-off'ed and have the ace hack kit recovery.
When I checked for updates, I was surprised it did prompt me for the OTA 2.3 update.
I am tempted to install it but I am not sure if it will unroot my phone and remove the recovery and if it does, then how do I get it rooted again and have rom manager recovery?
I am with Three Australia and I was hoping someone else had done this before and would like to share their experience with us.
Since your rooted the Ota's will fail to Install. If you want to stay stock I would just flash a prerooted version.
Personally though you should give custom roms a try and enter the fun
I have used an Ice Cold Sandwich custom rom and I loved it on my old DHD but this new one which I got as a replacement came with Froyo and for some odd reason, the WiFi is not working correctly. It connects but nothing get sent or received. I'm not quite sure if its the aahk that caused or it was an issue since I got it as I don't recall using WiFi on it before running aahk on it.
So I was hoping I could install this ota and check if it gets fixed, otherwise I will take it back to 3 so they can have a look and it would look like I have done nothing to it.
Hope this makes sense.
I'm really worried about applying this ota. I have taken a backup but would I get the chance to restore it if the ota update fail to install as you are saying?
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You could restore, but the Ota's wont install at all. You'll get stuck on the screen with an exclamation point,and you'll need to pull the battery to reboot the phone.
What you could do is flash an ruu/pd98img of the stock rom to check the wifi issue. This way will get rid of root and cwr but its easily reattainable
I would not lose anything if I attempt it and fail? Just pull the battery out and I am back in business?
I will update to the latest ruu (Hutch AUS 3.12.861.2 PD9810000) from htc dev page but this will unroot the phone and remove cwr and put htc recovery. And then you want me to run the OTA update?
Just curious how easy it will be to root it and install cwr after I apply the ruu above.
Saturn007 said:
I would not lose anything if I attempt it and fail? Just pull the battery out and I am back in business?
I will update to the latest ruu (Hutch AUS 3.12.861.2 PD9810000) from htc dev page but this will unroot the phone and remove cwr and put htc recovery. And then you want me to run the OTA update?
Just curious how easy it will be to root it and install cwr after I apply the ruu above.
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First two questions correct. But their is really no point in attempting it unless out pure curiosity to see if fail.
If you flash the ruu, no need to apply the Ota's as the ruu is probably The Ota's its asking you to install.
Because you will still be soff even after the ruu, you could just install cwr via a pd98img. Then install a rom or backup. And even if you were son the hack kit would still be able to root your phone
I was as curious as a cat and you were spot on. It did fail.
The RUU I was referring to was from the htcdev page which is only 5.9MB and it's mainly to update hboot.
What I ended up doing last night was to apply this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=843998 and the OTA still failed.
I guess it failed and when I checked, I still had cwr and hence why it failed.
I checked to see if I still had root and it was not. I was able to install superuser and this was all I needed to get root again. I did not think it was this easy.
I then ended up applying IceColdSandwich 4.0.0 from http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1450962
I am going tonight to apply 4.1.1 which only got released today.
I have a question about pd98img. what things can I install using this method? Can I packages apk files and name the file this and it will auto install when I hboot?
Pd98imgs are used to flash a radio, a recovery, and a bootsplash(image before you see the bootanimation)
You can have zips that install apps for you. Those are flashed in recovery. I know icecoldsandwich has a overlay script to do that aswell when flashing that rom. You would just have to place your apks in the specified folder.(I believe its data/app/apks)
Theres a new OTA of course that includes gingerbread but I need to download 3.7 in order to get to that. That of course means I need to unroot and thats my problem. I cannot get rid of clockwork recovery and have tried all day to. (Havent showered). I have s-on and used unrevoked 3 to root. Please help me get rid of clockwok recovery.
Why not just flash a rooted version of the update there are a few good ones out and once you unroot it will be harder to root after the update.
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If you don't ever want to root again, or if you don't mind waiting awhile, just run an RUU from your computer or flash a PC36IMG of the RUU through the bootloader. This will get rid of your recovery.
If you want to stay rooted, don't accept the update. If you can still get into recovery, flash unrevoked forever through recovery. Or just run unrevoked from your computer. Then download a stock rooted rom from here and flash that. Do a nandroid backup before flashing. Accepting the OTA while s-on will leave you without root until someone finds a new root method for the latest update.
(from... Evo/MIUI/Tapatalk)
I tried a PC36IMG and they sad they were invalid. I also tried an RUU and all it did was wipe my phone storage.
Rooted my brand new replacement G2 with the visonary method today. Just saw the OTA update for gingerbread and ignored it. Successfully perm rooted. Then I went about to obtain the desire z hboot so I could flash Virtuous Unity 2.39.0. I used zedomax's method on youtube where you dont use adb at all.
After successfully installing the desire z hboot I restored my phone from my backup to find that superuser and visionary were gone. I went to my terminal and typed su and it said permission denied. I still have S-OFF so what is going on? I decided to try to root again through visonary and once I permrooted again and rebooted, I could only reboot into clockwork recovery. Ive tried restoring my backups and I cant seem to boot up. Keep getting MD5 is a mismatch! error message. Any help is greatly appreciated
chickawaffles26 said:
Rooted my brand new replacement G2 with the visonary method today. Just saw the OTA update for gingerbread and ignored it. Successfully perm rooted. Then I went about to obtain the desire z hboot so I could flash Virtuous Unity 2.39.0. I used zedomax's method on youtube where you dont use adb at all.
After successfully installing the desire z hboot I restored my phone from my backup to find that superuser and visionary were gone. I went to my terminal and typed su and it said permission denied. I still have S-OFF so what is going on? I decided to try to root again through visonary and once I permrooted again and rebooted, I could only reboot into clockwork recovery. Ive tried restoring my backups and I cant seem to boot up. Keep getting MD5 is a mismatch! error message. Any help is greatly appreciated
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Visionary is not a safe method to use to permanently root the Vision. There are warnings and stickies all over about this... you might want to check them out. Perhaps there are some solutions in these threads... discovered by users in your same situation... Have you tried the unroot option in Visionary?
Ideally, you can start over completely and use a clean method. If you're still on 2.2 the best bet is here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=928160
chickawaffles26 said:
Rooted my brand new replacement G2 with the visonary method today. Just saw the OTA update for gingerbread and ignored it. Successfully perm rooted. Then I went about to obtain the desire z hboot so I could flash Virtuous Unity 2.39.0. I used zedomax's method on youtube where you dont use adb at all.
After successfully installing the desire z hboot I restored my phone from my backup to find that superuser and visionary were gone. I went to my terminal and typed su and it said permission denied. I still have S-OFF so what is going on? I decided to try to root again through visonary and once I permrooted again and rebooted, I could only reboot into clockwork recovery. Ive tried restoring my backups and I cant seem to boot up. Keep getting MD5 is a mismatch! error message. Any help is greatly appreciated
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Read this guide. Use it. Love it.
Here I am following this guild http://forum.xda-developers.com/wik...sion#Rooting_the_Vision_.28G2.2FDZ.29_and_DHD, but I am not going any further than 1. since I don't know anything about temp root. I have rooted the g1 only so far. Please help.
Why is it considered temporary? What disables it? What happens when it is disabled? Can it be made permanent without this Visionary thing that has a high potential to brick your phone?
Thanks in advance.
HTC phone has a feature that reverts any system change after reboot. So, for example, if you root you phone, it will unroots itself upon boot.
Temp root does just that: root your phone, do stuffs that you want, then after you reboot you will loose root.
Permanent root: you will have to turn off the security feature aforementioned first, which is called S-ON. After achieving S-OFF, you can now install any ROM, makes any system change you want (root, for example) then it will stay. Normally people will install a pre-rooted ROM, thus achieve permanent root.
To have S-OFF please follow this guide which you already found:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wik..._Root_.2F_.22Permaroot.22.29_using_gfree_v0.7
After achieving S-OFF, you can install any ROM that you want, as aforesaid, and have permanent root.
Temp root is a way to gain temporary root access to your phone's files. I would not recommend trying to gain permanant root via visionary. It is highly capable of bricking your phone. Gain temp root, downgrade your phone to stock 2.1, and then you can permanantly root using adb. From there you can install custom roms and what have you. Here is a link to the permanant root guide. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=833965 . Good luck.
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Great thanks guys for the quick replies. I'm going to follow those steps... not sure if they tell how to/when to load the custom rom. Do they?
If they don't I'll come back. Thanks again guys, giving thanks to both of you.
Woah that guide is ancient.
Use this one http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=HTC_Vision#Rooting_the_G2 its up to date.
-Nipqer
After you have rooted, you can go to most rom threads and they tell you how to install. Youll go to recovery and wipe data, cache, and dalvik. Then install zip from sd card. Then you will select the zip for the rom you put on your sd. Simple as that.
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