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anybody here ever heard of 10live.com? it's a chinese website that allows you to view movies and tv shows in crystal clear definition....even on EDGE...only problem is it's in chinese....there's an app that you can download over at that you can put install on your phone but again, the controls are in chinese...using it involves a lot of trial and error but once you get the hang of it, it's pretty easy....would love to hear anybody's opinion of this thing...
There is no "crystal clear" definition for our tiny 320 x 240 pixel screen and definitely not on EDGE!!! There's only so much you can do with the small bandwidth EDGE offers and the relatively small resolution the screen will display.
not misleading anybody...
I can tell you this much...it's a whole lot clearer than Technology's BLU-RAY player( not knockin' ya Tech...I still love the player and use it everyday) or the TCPMP flash video bundle player(which I also love and use all the time)...and besides , I wasn't trying to sell anybody on this thing...I just wanted to know if anybody's heard of it and/or using it and what they thought of it...it has it's limitations...for one thing there's a lot of movies but you don't actually get a chance to choose just any movie or show...you're limited to what they have on site...but it's a lot and it's updated almost all the time...and again...you gotta look through every link to find a movie you want to watch since the titles are in Chinese...
actually....
actually....what I really wanted to know if there's a website like that in English...and how come we don't have anything like that here in the States...
thats why
Because we have legislation that strangles the American people from enjoying anything.
so....
you tried it?? what do you think of it?
naars90 said:
actually....what I really wanted to know if there's a website like that in English...and how come we don't have anything like that here in the States...
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...copyright laws perhaps?
10 Live
It's a great software. I have in both of my Tilt, Blackjack and N95. Great viewing quality and ability to fastward and resume at any point. It's only avaliable in chinese, however it is not that difficult to master it.
Hey,
I tried using Google to translate the page and this is what I came up with as the description:
10LIVE billion from the Shanghai Science and Technology Co., Ltd network of independent development, a cell phone client software for playing audio and video, support online live television, online support feature film programming; have the latest streaming media technology, no waiting, no need to download. More Multi-version landing http://www.10look.com/down.do
10LIVE support cmwap, cmnet wireless streaming media player software! 10 LIVE can be realized in low-speed networks under the condition of smooth wireless streaming video viewing experience!
1. Brand new interface, more rich content collection
2. Built-in programs here, here to watch a one-stop service
3. Automated software upgrades
4. Infinite Playlist
5. For the adjustment and optimization of China's mobile network transmission network
6. To support a variety of networks (including wifi, gprs, edge, Bluetooth)
7. Fluency high
8. High-definition
let me try and get the software
can someone post the link to the software and is it workable at all or it's of no use to us English -speaking peeps?
Here's the .cab. latest version 1.6.1538
it's kinda hard to use at first. with all of the chinese writing and all, but the movies that are english speaking moves. the audio is in english.... but there are chiniese subtitles for them. It runs at abour 15 to 18 fps and rarely buffers, even on edge.
Shouldn't the thread be locked already since the OP leads to a warez site..?
naars90 said:
I can tell you this much...it's a whole lot clearer than Technology's BLU-RAY player( not knockin' ya Tech...I still love the player and use it everyday) or the TCPMP flash video bundle player(which I also love and use all the time)...and besides , I wasn't trying to sell anybody on this thing...I just wanted to know if anybody's heard of it and/or using it and what they thought of it...it has it's limitations...for one thing there's a lot of movies but you don't actually get a chance to choose just any movie or show...you're limited to what they have on site...but it's a lot and it's updated almost all the time...and again...you gotta look through every link to find a movie you want to watch since the titles are in Chinese...
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Guy I know where you are coming from, first of all, you are talking about DEFINITION Mobile Video, a ultra clear stream, because of what they have in their stream signal. That why I dont argue with the mind that say, Oh this phone is a 320x240 resolution, like setting a LIMITATION on a LCD screen.(LOL) That because they don't know, if you know something that that they don't, then it cannot be true.(LOL) Here is my favorite DEFINITION mobile entertainment website {IN ENGLISH} with super ultra clear video resolution, http://mobile.ardcorp.tv. The video is ultra super clear because of what's in the video stream signal,{Ultimate Codecs} now see will it set ANY limitation on your 320x240 screen LCD, but you already know that it will not, because you said that it better than my Blue-ray Screen Video Player and you are correct(LOL), because it's a DEFINITION video stream. Their will be more DEFINITION website in the future, take care enjoy Saturn Liberty...............!
Hiya Tech...been to the saturn liberty website but...it's no good if you're not on a wireless connection...too much buffering and choppy video...unless you know a setting that makes it smoother...would love to hear from you....btw...any luck on humyo.com?
Wifi Or 3g Only
naars90 said:
Hiya Tech...been to the saturn liberty website but...it's no good if you're not on a wireless connection...too much buffering and choppy video...unless you know a setting that makes it smoother...would love to hear from you....btw...any luck on humyo.com?
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Sorry guy, I forgot to tell you that it only works on wifi or 3g. They play up to date movies, super DEFINITION crystal video resolution on your 320X240 LCD screen DVD/HD/Blu-ray like quality on the real side, check it out when you can................!
10live
Got everything working, you were right, DEFINITION TV...............!
lol...good to know you got it...! beautiful, isn't it?
Beautiful, Lots Of Good Movies
naars90 said:
lol...good to know you got it...! beautiful, isn't it?
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I was watching a comedy earlier with Marvin Lawrence, yes very beautiful. PM me your e-mail address and I will send you a Master Codecs Pack 2 with instructions, plus *Windows Media player Codecs for 6.1 mobile devices.....!
Saturn Liberty Digital Definition TV
Below are a few photos of what Saturn Liberty Digital Definition TV looks like at http://mobile.ardcorp.tv..........!:D
10live Video Movie Player 4 Smartphones And PocketPC
You can get the 10live video movie player here http://www.mediafire.com/?zqwtgmjnjg0 and you will have to learn how to play the movies from the square blocks. it's very easy, then you will have access to a lot of good movies most are in English. Get you a good BT headset and popcorn, enjoy.........!
I know the question of viewing BBC iPlayer on the TP2 has been raised before, but it seems like none of the suggested solutions really works very well, or at least not for me.
I've tried the trick of adding the Samsung Omnia user agent code in Opera 9.5. This works up to the point where the Streaming Media app opens, but then the video never loads - it just stays at 0% buffering for ever.
One can, of course, use Skyfire to access the iPlayer website, but Skyfire looks like pixellated crap and I hate it. Video playback is jerky too.
I did come across a stand-alone iPlayer app a while back, but it proved too unstable to use; constantly crashing.
The best results I've had so far are with using myplayer. Unfortunately I'm too cheap to shell out for Coreplayer so instead I use the Streaming Media player for actual streaming, and for downloaded material (which it says is "higher quality" - is that true?) I use TCPMP, which is not altogether satisfactory as you only get about 80% of frames rendered. I imagine Coreplayer would do a better job of playing the downloaded .MOV files, but even so, the resolution you're getting on those is really pretty poor compared to what you get out of iPlayer on a desktop PC. Downloads from myplayer have a resolution of 480x270, I think - certain 480 horizontal. Downloads to iPlayer desktop are, what, 640x360? And streamed content from iPlayer on my desktop PC (in "large" mode) has a resolution of something like 850x480.
Now, if I were starting with (say) a 720p .mkv file, I could feed it through the Encoder app, and cook it into a .mp4 file with 800x480 resolution and 750kb/s bitrate and it would play back beautifully using HTCAlbum as a player - HTCAlbum (and, indeed, Windows Media Player) do a far better job of video playback than CorePlayer on the TP2, thanks to their making far better use of the GPU. Is there any way of capturing high-resolution output from iPlayer on a desktop PC, and then using Encoder on it in the same way? Can this be done either with the flash videos that one streams to a desktop browser, or with the (encrypted?) .mp4 files that are downloaded to iPlayer desktop?
Are there any possibilities I'm missing?
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No one has anything to say...?
Works for me
Got iPlayer running OK on my TP2. Entered sgh-i900 in the Custom User agent of Opera config.
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Got iPlayer running OK on my TP2. Entered sgh-i900 in the Custom User agent of Opera config.
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Well, as I've already said, that doesn't work for me. Possibly because O2 blocks access to iPlayer streams, I don't know. What sort of playback resolution do you get? Full desktop res? Does the streaming media player cope without dropping frames?
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Got iPlayer running OK on my TP2. Entered sgh-i900 in the Custom User agent of Opera config.
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Out of curiosity I went back and had another go at this. Connecting to iPlayer over GPRS, EDGE or 3G, I now get a message on the website saying that iPlayer doesn't work over my network, and that I need to connect using WiFi. A note elsewhere on the website says that iPlayer is available over 3G for people on the 3 or Vodafone networks, but not on others. (I'm on O2). Connecting (briefly!!!) over my office's wifi network does work - the video can be played and opens in the Streaming Media Player. (I did try this once over a public wifi connection in my local Pret-a-manger, and it didn't work correctly).
However, even over wifi, the quality when streaming like this is even worse than I get from a myplayer .mov download - the resolution is a risible 320x176! So none of this really address my original question, which is how one can get better resolution out of iPlayer.
EDIT: Just to clarify, if I use myplayer to get streamed output from iPlayer, using Streaming Media Player to play it, this also gives me 320x176 video (but at least it manages to bypass the restriction on the O2 network, so it works over 3G). It also (sometimes) gives the option to download the programme in question, in the form of a 480x270 .mov file. Playing this nicely probably requires CorePlayer - TCPMP drops about 20% of frames.
Of course one could move the .mov file off the phone, re-encode to .mp4, and move it back on, and play it with HTCAlbum, but if you're going to go to that much effort it would be nice to be able to start with a higher-resolution video... which is where we came in.
Did a little more experimenting yesterday. Didn't really get anywhere, but in case anyone else has a bit more imagination than I have....
Some programmes on iPlayer now have two additional links. There's the standard "download" link (which downloads the programme for iPlayer Desktop on the PC). There are also (sometimes) two others which let you download the programme in WMV format - one suitable for desktop PCs, the other for "mobile devices".
Downloading to iPlayer Desktop produces a file with a .mp4 suffix, but no other application besides iPlayer Desktop (either on my PC or on my phone) seems to be able to make head or tail of it.
The "mobile device" .wmv file can be played correctly on the TP2 using Pocket Windows Media Player, but the resolution is the standard mobile 360x180 again, which makes it unwatchable. The intended-for-desktop .wmv file is much higher res - something like 680x544 (I forget the exact numbers, but it's roughly that). When played back on a desktop PC, Windows Media Player realises that it's in anamorphic format and scales it to 967x544 or thereabouts. It looks quite good.
Putting this file onto my TP2, however, doesnt work so well. Pocket Windows Media Player does play it, but playback is quite jerky (not surprisingly, as the bit rate is very high) and, even more annoyingly, it fails to recognise that it's anamorphic and plays it at "native" aspect ratio, which is useless. There doesn't seem to be any way to get it to stretch it.
I tried feeding the desktop WMV file through the Encoder application to convert it to 800x480 .mp4, but the end result is a video where sound and picture are both gibberish - the .wmv is obviously encrypted in a way that the encoder doesn't recognise.
Anyone have any other suggestions?
Can anyone confirm if the playback of BBC Iplayer videos are flawless like on the iphone?
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Thanks for your comments guys. Had the desire for about 3 weeks now, and can say that Beebplayer plays videos at a 'watchable' quality over Wifi. It's not as good as the iphone (Which I will give a 10/10 to, because of its perfect quality and smooth framerates), but you have to take into consideration that videos on Iplayer are also specifically converted for iphones, while BeebPlayer uses a copy of the video converted for standard phones. Eastenders, for example, is a ~30 minute soap which is only 42MB in total to stream...
All in all, its okay. Should be better when Flash 10.1 comes round.
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seems to play fine. only tested one show using beebplayer. worked fine! not great quality unfortunately but more than watchable and seems pretty good!
evildead - did you have to pause the show for it to stream for a little while, or did you click play from the beginning and the video finished without stuttering?
On the slashgear review they said that you had to pause and wait for the whole video to stream first...kinda stupid..
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evildead - did you have to pause the show for it to stream for a little while, or did you click play from the beginning and the video finished without stuttering?
On the slashgear review they said that you had to pause and wait for the whole video to stream first...kinda stupid..
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im pretty sure it depends on the connection speed so as phones dont have speeds we have in computers then you gotta pause it for a bit to let it load
Worded fine for me via beebplayer - incidentrally, opening up the iPlayer website and selecting a vid to watch gave me the option to use beebplayer which worked a treat.
streamed over 3G/H and played fine from the start, no need to pause.
nope. on a 10mb wifi connection no need to pause. Took approximately 15 seconds to load on it. Tried it on 3G and the same. The quality is halved (as is the file size when on HSDPA.. think thats what it is) so no stuttering at all.
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Worded fine for me via beebplayer - incidentrally, opening up the iPlayer website and selecting a vid to watch gave me the option to use beebplayer which worked a treat.
streamed over 3G/H and played fine from the start, no need to pause.
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Beebplayer is great for watching iPlayer (available in the market)
Thanks guys. Reassuring to know it works, as that is what I will be doing 80% of my time.
I've checked streaming via beeb player as well as streaming directly from news.bbc.co.uk - both worked fine on 3G.
Are you guys having a larf? I tried this on my Desire last night and BBC1 played at about 3 frames/sec in VERY crude video.
Right beside it was my iPod Touch playing smooth in high res.
And both were on wifi.
Does this thing really play content properly?
I think we need to wait for the official iplayer app for android, which has already been announced by the BBC.
http://www.neowin.net/news/bbc-announces-news-and-sport-apps-for-iphone-android-and-blackberry
Seeing as the BBC Trust has shelved the News and Sports apps for the time being, perhaps the Beeb will turn their attentions to the Android iPlayer app instead? [SUGGESTION]
To confirm my experience of the beeb player app so far on the desire is flawless on both 3g and wifi connection. obviously quality suffers on 3g but load times were fantastic. I always assumed it was the network speed making it run slow on my G1 but on this phone same network same location runs alot smoother!
Yup. They all work perfectly. Never tried it on my iPhone so can't comment but this works 100%
checked out the beeb player app
yeh, works ok, thought the quality of the vid was relatively poor tho, still...cant complain too much as its free and the only option at the moment.
Not an app i'll be showing of to my former bredren (the iphone users)!
Don't forget that you have to factor in that you're watching it on a screen that is higher res than the iphone - think watching SD content on a standard CRT TV as compared to watching SD on a Hi-Def LCD/Plasma - the SD content will actually look better on the CRT. Same difference between iPhone and HTC Desire. The Desire will come into it's own with higher res material....
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Don't forget that you have to factor in that you're watching it on a screen that is higher res than the iphone - think watching SD content on a standard CRT TV as compared to watching SD on a Hi-Def LCD/Plasma - the SD content will actually look better on the CRT. Same difference between iPhone and HTC Desire. The Desire will come into it's own with higher res material....
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For sure,
y'know i miss the ability to just fire up the iplayer mobile site on my iphone or watch tvcatchup but i'm prepared to wait for the goodness to start rolling in on the Desire, it is after all a brand new device
Beebplayer works fine for me here, I tried watching Jonathan Ross which worked ok, but I get a problem whereby the audio and video is slightly out of sync, probably 1/2 a second. Anyone else getting this?
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y'know i miss the ability to just fire up the iplayer mobile site on my iphone or watch tvcatchup
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Can't you watch the TVcatchup on the desire?
Bandare said:
Can't you watch the TVcatchup on the desire?
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not as far as i can tell ! tried it last night and got the adverts to play (prior to the channel) but as soon as it was over i got an error !!
ill post on / browse their site in a while and find out whats up with that.
It'll only be a matter of time i guess
Maybe theres an android app in the works
Since I couldn't find any reviews specifying this, I have created a poll. This is the closest thing I found - "YouTube videos played quite smoothly (360p-480p)"
Are you able to stream YouTube at 480p smoothly? (zero stuttering/dropped frames)
This is in regards to my previous thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1180717
you can watch 720p fine with jetvd from the market. I do it all the time..uses so much data though O.O
Thanks for the tip, jetVD works nicely - smooth 720p.
I CBA to send the phone for repair for 4 weeks just to potentially fix a small issue.
Edit: the KeepVid app looks exactly the same as jetVD
I only watch via WiFi, is faster and saves me €10 a month.
But streaming HD still seems to lag (I use Opera Mini w/ lastest Flash Player), I think the phone (I have a Neo) can't handle streaming HD well enough...
It can handle 720p streaming just fine, only not through Flash. Video playing through Flash still isn't optimal, but that is just flash. When going through the Yt desktop site not even 480p works completely smooth here.
With JetVD you can watch 720p streaming just fine, and since JetVD uses the Gallery player it even uses the Bravia engine, AND the output over HDMI would be real 720p and not just 854x480 upscaled!
Ok, So i got the hd nitro for x-mas. I wanted the phone because i have a few movies in 720 p that I figured I could run on this phone. I tried out both rock player and mx videoplayer and couldn't get crouching tiger hidden dragon to run at an acceptable frame rate. Moon on the other hand runs pretty well on this phone. I'm thinking crouching tiger has more complicated scenes to render, but if this device can't play back many movies in hd at an acceptable frame rate it's usefulness goes way down for me.
It really depends on the movies encoding settings to , some movies (720p mkv) even dont run smoothly on my laptop (i7 2630qm , 16 GB Ram ,GTX560m) , also try running it on vlc @ http://phandroid.com/2011/09/23/vlc-open-source-media-player-for-android-download/
Otherwise LG stock rom is to blame
I actually just used the default videoplayer for the first time and it did a better job than both mx video and rock player. Crouching tiger played without a hitch. I do like the user interface for those players better, but performance trumps usability in this case.
I have tested it on 1080p movie with 15mbps bitrate (10gb file), streaming it over WiFi with ES File Explorer, no stuttering or skipping, perfectly smooth.
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I found mVideoPlayer the best performance vice, usually if it doesn't play something, nothing else will play it...
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I have tested it on 1080p movie with 15mbps bitrate (10gb file), streaming it over WiFi with ES File Explorer, no stuttering or skipping, perfectly smooth.
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I found mVideoPlayer the best performance vice, usually if it doesn't play something, nothing else will play it...
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i went to d/l this and the description states that the author hasn't updated this in a "very very long time, i'm sorry"
should i disregard that?
Try it and see for yourself.
Personally I found if this player can't play a video, no other players can either...There are some formats that perform better in different players, so it wouldn't hurt have 3 or 4 players installed, not like it's hard to delete them any times
Is there a youtube app that will let you play at 720 p? The one that comes on the phone only lets you select high quality, and the only way i cant get it to play 720 p on the browser is if I select desktop mode which makes it a little cumbersome.
I'll try out mplayer, but im quite happy with the default player.
Edit: It appears the link is broken for the newest version of mplayer
mplayer is different from mvideoplayer
https://market.android.com/details?id=afzkl.development.mVideoPlayer
I installed mplayer and it ran better than a few of the other videoplayers i had, but still not as good as the default player. Default player is the only one not to choke on crouching tiger.
Btw, good luck playing anything like that on Sammy Skyrocket
Sent from my LG-P930 using xda premium
I recommend MoboPlayer:
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.clov4r.android.nil&feature=search_result
Never tried mvideoplayer though, will have to give that a shot.