Alright, so we all know English is supported (sometimes as the ONLY language, like the T-Mo's HD7), and I know keyboard support for other languages will come with time, but there is something that bothers me, and it is DISPLAYING a language.
Due to the nature of my recent work, I need to deal with Middle Eastern languages such as Farsi, Arabic, and Hebrew, and sometimes Asian languages like Japanese and Korean. The Asian languages usually show up just fine on Internet Explorer or Office, but it's the Middle Eastern languages that have been causing a problem for me.
First of all, Windows Phone 7 seems to lack ANY support for Right-to-Left text generally, which is basically ALL Middle Eastern languages. Secondly, Farsi and Arabic letters are connected in words, and WP7 seems to ignore this for most text.
Any thoughts on how to fix this, or whether you think this will ever get fixed?
Support for Asian languages is supposed to come in the second half of next year.
Asian languages will start in 2011 I believe. As for Middle Eastern. The phones are going to be released there sometime this month. But I don't know how you'd be able to install an additional language on there. If it's like Android, you'd have to root it.
Personally, from trying a mix of languages on 6.5. I found the system had slown down when I installed additional language support. In the end all I did was keep my SMS messages, sync to MyPhone and then read them from my browser. But we don't have MyPhone on 7
I also don't know how Right to Left languages will work on the interface. If titles changed, you'd be seeing the end of the words instead of the beginning. Like instead of "Peop", you'd see "le". I think that would look weird.
bmazloum said:
I also don't know how Right to Left languages will work on the interface. If titles changed, you'd be seeing the end of the words instead of the beginning. Like instead of "Peop", you'd see "le". I think that would look weird.
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Right to left typically also involves mirroring the UI. So the Hebrew translation of People would start on the right side of the screen and bleed off the left edge.
I am not too worried about the actual UI being translated to another language. It is fine in English for me. My concern is displaying any Middle Eastern language on the phone's browser, Office, etc. like reading actual text...
kapanak said:
I am not too worried about the actual UI being translated to another language. It is fine in English for me. My concern is displaying any Middle Eastern language on the phone's browser, Office, etc. like reading actual text...
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The Middle Eastern languages support seems strange. My phone (HTC HD7 - UK) partially supports Arabic & Farsi:
In browser: read right to left but not connected.
In email: full support in title in inbox, but in email body is as in browser if sent in text, but if HTML then not supported at all.
In text: full support! read right to left and connected.
In Zune: full support as well.
In other applications: read left to right and separated..
curvyjomanjy said:
The Middle Eastern languages support seems strange. My phone (HTC HD7 - UK) partially supports Arabic & Farsi:
In browser: read right to left but not connected.
In email: full support in title in inbox, but in email body is as in browser if sent in text, but if HTML then not supported at all.
In text: full support! read right to left and connected.
In Zune: full support as well.
In other applications: read left to right and separated..
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Exactly. Let me add something to that...In the People Hub feed, Farsi and Arabic show up fine interestingly enough.
Also, in Office, if you have a word, or power point document (have only tried this so far), text is LEFT to right, and separated.
I am sure it wouldn't require much for Microsoft to patch this problem.
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Hello Sir,
I AM NOW VERY Disappointed That We Can Not Read Asian Languages ON Our Universal DEVICE. I Have Spent Many Hours To Find A Solution But Failed. Urdu Language Is Read From Right To Left. When We Change Font To Urdu True Type We Can See All Characters But Left To Right. Is There Any Registry Settings To Do This I Mean Right To Left Reading Of Asian Languages. If Yes Kindly Let Us Know And If No Then How Can We Do That?
Waiting Your Kind Reply
I hope you accept my answer, even though I am not Asukal (haven't seen him on the forum for a long time).
Unfortunately, to read and write right to left on windows mobile devices you need a special program which is specific to the language you are using.
Windows mobile does not have functions that support right to left.
Hebrew and Arabic speakers encounter the same problem and for each of those languages there is a special localization application that converts all text right to left.
Unfortunately those apps are not free and they only recognize the specific language they were written for.
You need to look for such a program for your language.
Arabizer provides, partial solution to Urdu, however additional Urdu characters are not included, by installing this program enables you to view the Urdu text properly (in Right to Left mode)
Hope this will help!
WMSpellChecker
I have been programming for Windows Mobile for a few months by now, mainly using Basic4ppc which is an excellent developing-software, at a low cost, for producing great Windows Mobile-applications (but also Desktop-applications). Basic4ppc is based upon the .Net Framework.
One of the strenght of Basic4ppc is that it has great support and not only from the developer but also from other users who are supplying Basic4ppc with a lot of extra featues through external libraries. I got interested in writing a library myself and this is how the WMSpellChecker-library was born. However, from the very beginning, my idea was that the library should be compatible not only with Basic4ppc but also with Windows Mobile-applications developed in Visual Studio and SharpDevelop using VB.NET and C#.
I have seen commercial solutions for spellchecking but since I wanted to learn writing a library, I thought this would be a nice thing to give "for free" to fellow developers.
Well, let me get back to the WMSpellChecker-library:
Basically, a spell checker customarily consists of two parts:
1) A set of routines for scanning text and extracting words, and
2) An algorithm for comparing the extracted words against a known list of correctly spelled words (i.e., the dictionary).
However, what mentioned above is only a "half" spell checker since these days spell checkers also suggest replacements/corrections for misspelled words (among other things such as synonyms and grammar-hints). Said suggestions can be proposed by a spellchecking-engine based upon various techniques:
- phonetic algorithms such as "Soundex" among others.
- word lists containing common misspelled words and letters commonly inverted
- functions called "Near Miss Strategy" and introduced by one of the first spell-checkers on the market, namely Ispell for UNIX and with its roots dating back to 1971.
- algorithms like "edit distance" which measures the amount of difference between two sequences. A famous one is the "Levenshtein distance".
- and other techniques
The "techniques" mentioned above have all been implemented in the library.
I am aware of the fact that (at least) WM6 already offers spelling-suggestions and a spell checker if PocketWord (Office) has been installed but still I liked this idea so I decided to make a library. In any case, as far as I know, only the dictionary corresponding to the language of WM6 is being installed so if you want to spell check words in other languages you cannot do so.
The way it works.....
First of all, apart from referencing the library itself, you need to add two objects to your application, namely DICTIONARY and COMPUTEDETECTION.
Then you need to load the dictionary-files by using "LoadDict". Currently they consist of four separate files. However, I may change this in a future release. The dictionary-files must be located in the application-directory although you can create sub-folders. This first release only supports English and the dictionaries distributed with the library must not be tempered with. Next release will bring support for other languages and will also include a separate program for handling dictionaries.
Once the dictionaries have been loaded, you can start the spellchecking by calling the library using "ComputeDetection" which passes on your textbox-control to the library. In case there are words that are not present in the dictionary, then a set of suggestions will be returned to the calling application and at the same time the word which was not found will be shown in the textbox in capital-letters. The suggestions produced by the library can be obtained using "ReturnSuggestions" which returns a string-array.
Once you have shown the suggestions returned by the library, you can let your user in your application decide what to do i.e.
-"IgnoreWord" - ignoring the wrong word
-"AddWord" - adding an own word to replace the wrong word
-"ReplaceWord" - replacing the wrong word with a word from the suggestions
At this point, you tell the library to continue spellchecking by using "ContinueDetection". You should also verify if spellchecking has been terminated by using "IsSpellingFinished".
At any time, you can interrupt spellchecking by using "UnloadDict". This will be useful in a future release of the library so you can unload an English dictionary and to replace it with, for instance, a French dictionary without exiting your own application. However, before unloading the dictionary, you should verify if a dictionary has already been loaded or not by using "IsDictionaryLoaded".
In the help-file, you can find more important information as to the methods/properties available. Please also check out the two sample-projects present in the attachment where the source-code has been fully commented. One is using a classic spellchecking-interface and the other one is using context-menus.
Other comments....
This first release has some limitations, such as support only for English and the need for a textbox-control. However, I will add other features in the future, for instance:
-support for other languages
-dictionary-tools (for creating dictionaries) - will be an external program
-possibility to add a user-dictionary
-possibility to limit amount of suggestions produced by the library (by using a "ranking-system")
-no further need for a textbox-control in your application. Your application will be able to pass on to the library only the word(s) you wish to spellcheck and the library will only return the suggestion(s). In this way, the spellchecker-library will not "interfere" with your application and you can use whichever control you prefer although you as a developer has to take care of the words to be passed on the library for verification.
-spellchecking "on the fly"
-extended error-handling
A few notes regarding dictionaries....
The English dictionary supplied with the library is composed of nearly 70'000 words. Dictionaries to be used with the library must be sorted and each word in the dictionary must use LF = chr(10) as line-endings. In addition, the dictionary should be saved as UTF-8.
From the dictionary, a KeyMap is created using either a Soundex - or a DoubleMetaphone-algorithm. In this moment, the KeyMap is being furnished with the library and loaded as an external file but future releases might create it on the fly (or at least an option to do so). With next release, I will add a utility, to be run from the Desktop, which will let you create your own dictionary and corresponding KeyMap which are compatible with WMSpellChecker.
Unlike English and Scandinavian ones, dictionaries for German and Latin languages such as Spanish, Italian and French will probably be rather large. This is due to the fact that German, Italian and other similar languages use a lot of suffixes, for instance when creating verbs. In order to overcome this, certain famous spellcheckers such as ASpell, ISpell, HunSpell (used by OpenOffice) have implemented dictionaries which mostly contain only the base-form of words/verbs. However, they use a supplementary file called "affix" which contains a lot of grammar-rules and this file together with the simplified dictionary overcomes the problem of large dictionaries. However, I believe this system is probably rather memory- and performance-hungry and might not be the best solution for Windows Mobile and PPC. However, maybe in the future I will look into this.
Another negative side-effect of using a too large dictionary is that said dictionary may include more obscure words which will increase the risk that the spelling-engine will "miss" real-word errors. For instance, the word wether illustrates this. The word is, arguably, so obscure that any occurrence of wether in a passage is more likely to be a misspelling of weather or whether than a genuine occurrence of wether, so that a spellchecker that did not have the word in its dictionary would do better than one that did.
Conclusion....
The library can be used with projects developed with Basic4ppc (PPC and Desktop) but should also work with projects created in Visual Studio and SharpDevelop (using VB.NET and C#). The library has been compiled targeting Framework Version 2.0.
Library-version: 1.0
Helpfile-version: 1.0
As mentioned before, this is my first serious library. Please check it out and let me know how well it integrates in your applications.
Please also give me feedback, suggestions for improvements, missing features, bug-reports etc.
The idea is to add spelling-support for other languages as well and here I might need some help from end-users. I will let you know.
UPDATE - 17/08/2009: I will in the next days release an updated version with support for other languages as well (starting with French, German, Swedish and Spanish).
Enjoy!
Rgds,
Tilleke
Reserved for future use
Hopefully this evening or by the latest tomorrow, I will upload a new release of the spellchecking-library :
1) which will permit you to pass on a word to verify to the library and the library will return the suggestions without "interfering" with your application. In this way, there is no further need for a textbox-control in your application and you can apply spellchecking to other controls as well (such as the Webbrowser-control).
2) if I find the time, I will add other languages as well in above release otherwise this will follow in the next release.
By the way, has anyone tested it yet? If yes, does it work? Any problems? Please let me know.
rgds,
tilleke
tilleke,
Thanks for this. Looks great, especially the foriegn language capability. I would like to add Thai and Lao to the libraries.
Thanks.
Hmm..I'd love to be able to add support for Thai and Lao but I foresee a few problems:
1) in order to do so, I would need word lists (dictionaries) in those languages and which would be free to use/distribute. If you have any, please let me know. I tried to google for some but I couldn't find any.
2) I couldn't locate an emulator supporting Thai or Lao which I would need to work with Thai-fonts. I guess there must be some kind of support for UniCode:
ก ข ฃ ค ฅ ฆ ง จ ฉ ช ซ ฌ ญ ฎ ฏ ฐ
ฑ ฒ ณ ด ต ถ ท ธ น บ ป ผ ฝ พ ฟ ภ
ม ย ร ฤ ฤๅ ล ฦ ฦๅ ว ศ ษ ส ห ฬ อ ฮ
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In any case, if one found a dictionary then maybe the font problem could be resolved in one way or another
3) I don't know if the "techniques" mentioned by me in my first post, can be applied to the languages of Thai and Lao...
nagbenjy said:
tilleke,
Thanks for this. Looks great, especially the foriegn language capability. I would like to add Thai and Lao to the libraries.
Thanks.
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For Thai there are a couple of SIPs available - Thaiwince and Thai-G. I don't have the links handy, but a search on Google will find them.
I don't use either of them. What I did was copy tahoma and tahomabd from the WINDOWS\FONTS folder on the desktop. Opened them in font creator and added the Thai and Lao fonts. I then copied the new fonts to the phone WINDOWS directory overwriting the existing fonts. I use Resco Keyboard Pro to enter Thai and Lao text.
I can post the fonts and the Lao Language skin if you want them. I will aso find some word lists. BUT after thinking more about your methodology in your first post, I don't think it will work. Thai and Lao only have spaces at the end of phrases and sentences, not between words.
Thanks.
Interesting. In any case, I found a worlist for Thai If you send me by PM your e-mail address, then I can send it to you and you can let me know if it is any good.
Out of curiosity: How do you write in Thai the following sentences?
"Today the sun is shining. I think I will go to the beach with my friends. Do you want to come with me?"
nagbenjy said:
Thai and Lao only have spaces at the end of phrases and sentences, not between words.
Thanks.
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BTW, do you know if Thai-SIPS (Thaiwince and Thai-G) or keyboards such as the one mentioned by you, Resco Keyboard Pro, insert the Unicode Character 'ZERO WIDTH SPACE' (U+200B) between words. If it does, then one could simplify the spell-checking.
See this page for further information:
http://blogamundo.net/dev/2006/12/28/the-zero-width-space/
Originally Posted by nagbenjy
Thai and Lao only have spaces at the end of phrases and sentences, not between words.
Thanks.
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I am still looking into the the ZERO WIDTH SPACE and will reply later.
In reply to:
"Today the sun is shining. I think I will go to the beach with my friends. Do you want to come with me?"
Depends on where you live, hot climate or cold climate. For cold climate where the sun hardly shines:
"วันนี้มีแสงแดด ผมคิดว่าจะไปชายหาดกับเพื่อน คุณอยากไปด้วยไหม"
Rough transcription, no breaks separating words, no punctuation:
"wanneemiisaengdaed phomkidwajapaichaaihaadkapphuon khunyaakpaiduaymai"
breaks separating words:
"วัน นี้ มี แสง แดด ผม คิด ว่า จะ ไป ชาย หาด กับ เพื่อน. คุณ อยาก ไป ด้วย ไหม?"
wan nee mii saeng daed. phom kid wa ja pai chaaihaad kap phuon. khun yaak pai duay mai?
Hot climate:
"วันนี้แดดจ้า ผมคิดว่าจะไปชายหาดกับเพื่อน คุณอยากไปด้วยไหม"
Rough transcription, no breaks separating words, no punctuation
wanneedaedjaa phomkidwajapaichaaihaadkapphuon khunyaakpaiduaymai
breaks separating words:
วัน นี้ มี แสง แดด ผม คิด ว่า จะ ไป ชาย หาด กับ เพื่อน. คุณ อยาก ไป ด้วย ไหม?
wan nee mii daed jaa. phom kid wa ja pai chaaihaad kap phuon. khun yaak pai duay mai?
Thanks for the link, interesting
NAG
Update - 17/08/2009: - I will in the next days release an updated version with support for other languages as well (starting with French, German, Swedish and Spanish).
In this regard, I need some help with verifying that the suggested replacements generated by the spellchecking-engine are accurate and reasonable. I need to verify Spanish, French and German so if (any) above languages is (are) your mother-tongue(s) or if you know them very well, please send me a PM and I will send you an application that can be run on a normal PC-desktop (Windows).
Ahh this is your home ...
Funny that you're working on a spell checker as myself I've been looking for a replacement to phatspell for a long time and then gave up. You could find my threads http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=350563.
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Hal_rr:
this project (library) is more intended for fellow developers who wish to add spellchecking to their applications. For end-users, there is not much use of this library since it's not a standalone program.
For the time being, this project is on hold (although it has evolved a lot compared to the features described in my first post/introduction). However if a developer is interested in an updated version, just let me know.
Who knows, I might one day write a small texteditor with spellchecking support, just for the fun of it.
Did anyone find a Hebrew support package that works on the Touch Pro2?
I tried Eyron, PDAC, Paragon (LEng) and badnimits but non of them seems to work
With all of them I tried the basic support without UI translation but still no luck.
also looking...
for the hebrew support
Same, Need help =D...
Rbroudo and Coneman23.
add me at MSN
[email protected]
let's try and sort things out together...
OK, We have a winner !!! OSM is the man
After HR. I installed:
1) OSM Hebrew package
2) AEKMap for with the updated TP2 Hebrew layout for hardware keyboard support
3) Finger Keyb for Hebrew soft keyboard support
Almost everything is working great & the device response is hardly effected.
Two things I have noticed:
1) Known issue - Opera is showing Hebrew LTR
2) In text messages I receive sometimes digits are displayed in Arabic I guess this is font dependent
didn't get it, if you're looking for FREE hebrew - why check out eyron & pdac!?
anyway, I tried the PDAC with the registry changes I directed you to before at pocketpcfreak - and it WORKS !
second, just TODAY i recieved an email fro EYRON's support saying that you can download a trial version of hebrew FOR TP2 from their site.
wanna try it out ?
Yep why not
Tourist! said:
didn't get it, if you're looking for FREE hebrew - why check out eyron & pdac!?
anyway, I tried the PDAC with the registry changes I directed you to before at pocketpcfreak - and it WORKS !
second, just TODAY i recieved an email fro EYRON's support saying that you can download a trial version of hebrew FOR TP2 from their site.
wanna try it out ?
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For those of us who don't read Hebrew so well, can you repeat the registry changes?
Thanks,
Michi
MichiK said:
For those of us who don't read Hebrew so well, can you repeat the registry changes?
Thanks,
Michi
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yes, but gimme some time, i'll try to post it today.
and yuuvi, let us know how it goes...
Tourist! said:
didn't get it, if you're looking for FREE hebrew - why check out eyron & pdac!?
anyway, I tried the PDAC with the registry changes I directed you to before at pocketpcfreak - and it WORKS !
second, just TODAY i recieved an email fro EYRON's support saying that you can download a trial version of hebrew FOR TP2 from their site.
wanna try it out ?
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Its not so much the "free" as finding a light Hebrew support.
Coming from the TYTN with its challenging memory configuration finding a light Hebrew support made HUGE difference.
Today even though the TP2 has much more memory I don't see a reason waisting it on something as basic as reading and writing in Hebrew.
ok, here we go... i'll try my best:
go to
HKLM/software/Tegic/eT9/XT9suportMSSip and change the value to 0
then, hop over to:
HKLM/system/currentcontrolset/control === here you need to change 2 values:
the first: layouts/e0010409/imefile change the value there to windows/compime.dll
the second: layouts text change the value there to COMP IME
reset and you're ready to go !
all credit to harvey from pocketpcfreak forum
hope all is clear...
I didn't find any TP2 version on Eyron's site.
And TBH, I dont give a **** ^^..
The free hebrew package that is offered above in this thread is way better, doesnt slow down your device, and is compatible with everything
=]
Yuuvi said:
I didn't find any TP2 version on Eyron's site.
And TBH, I dont give a **** ^^..
The free hebrew package that is offered above in this thread is way better, doesnt slow down your device, and is compatible with everything
=]
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OK, here's the link:
www.pocketpc.co.il/license/secure/downloads/2006/MUI_TouchPro2.exe
hey, give a **** or not... you promised to try... ;-)
NOW, about the hebrew above a few questions:
any bugs ? (opera etc.)
any extras ? (hebrew manila ? hebrew contacts scroll bar ?)
what's the difference in memory consumption ?
rbroudo said:
OK, We have a winner !!! OSM is the man
After HR. I installed:
1) OSM Hebrew package
2) AEKMap for with the updated TP2 Hebrew layout for hardware keyboard support
3) Finger Keyb for Hebrew soft keyboard support
Almost everything is working great & the device response is hardly effected.
Two things I have noticed:
1) Known issue - Opera is showing Hebrew LTR
2) In text messages I receive sometimes digits are displayed in Arabic I guess this is font dependent
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Wow. Just installed this on my TP2 and it works great!
Thanks!!!
Michi
Eyron Hebrew for TP2
OK, I installed it, it looked good at first, and is OK in general, BUT:
Caps shift/lock is disabled on hardware keyboard for english typing, and the cursor is a few spaces away from the place that it should be located when typing an email (again in english).
Now for people that don't use english a whole lot, these problems may not matter that much, but for me they do...
sjescott said:
OK, I installed it, it looked good at first, and is OK in general, BUT:
Caps shift/lock is disabled on hardware keyboard for english typing, and the cursor is a few spaces away from the place that it should be located when typing an email (again in english).
Now for people that don't use english a whole lot, these problems may not matter that much, but for me they do...
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THIS IS EYRON RIGHT?
I use English 90% of the time so no good for me
sjescott said:
OK, I installed it, it looked good at first, and is OK in general, BUT:
Caps shift/lock is disabled on hardware keyboard for english typing, and the cursor is a few spaces away from the place that it should be located when typing an email (again in english).
Now for people that don't use english a whole lot, these problems may not matter that much, but for me they do...
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also tried - i can confirm all of the above.
also - if you have the regional settings set to hebrew the eyron will not let any .net cf based apps work ! you must change to english.
btw- p.d.a.c have released a .cab file to fix the "fun" button problem with the hardware keyboard.
in short, seems the free hebrew support is better than the rest but does anyone know of fixes for the mentioned problems ? i.e opera ltr & arabic fonts instead of digits ?
Good for start...
Tourist! said:
didn't get it, if you're looking for FREE hebrew - why check out eyron & pdac!?
anyway, I tried the PDAC with the registry changes I directed you to before at pocketpcfreak - and it WORKS !
second, just TODAY i recieved an email fro EYRON's support saying that you can download a trial version of hebrew FOR TP2 from their site.
wanna try it out ?
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Please, let me get the trial Hebrew support for TP2 and will see how to make it work!
pls, Download it from their site and make a RAR file for me for download at Rapidshare (or other download site...) and i will check it out...
Thanx In Advance!!
Tourist! said:
OK, here's the link:
www.pocketpc.co.il/license/secure/downloads/2006/MUI_TouchPro2.exe
hey, give a **** or not... you promised to try... ;-)
NOW, about the hebrew above a few questions:
any bugs ? (opera etc.)
any extras ? (hebrew manila ? hebrew contacts scroll bar ?)
what's the difference in memory consumption ?
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It is NOT working (the link...) can you upload it by yourself for checking ?
Thanx
EYRON hebrew not good for htc touch pro2
hello members
i tryed to install EYRON heberw from there site, and all i see it green things on my htc pro2. so means its not working. and i buy it from EYRON.
they said they build the hebrew not for my rom only for oldest rom that came from newpan compay bring to israel.
so if you have new rom more then they have u cant install there hebrew.
im waiting for new EYRON version, or like they said install old rom they it will be good wich i will not do things like that.
so every one will think what to do.
your prince here
rbroudo said:
OK, We have a winner !!! OSM is the man
After HR. I installed:
1) OSM Hebrew package
2) AEKMap for with the updated TP2 Hebrew layout for hardware keyboard support
3) Finger Keyb for Hebrew soft keyboard support
Almost everything is working great & the device response is hardly effected.
Two things I have noticed:
1) Known issue - Opera is showing Hebrew LTR
2) In text messages I receive sometimes digits are displayed in Arabic I guess this is font dependent
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Is there anyway of combining the FN key with another key for the AEK language toggle?
Hi. I have HTC Mozart from Orange UK and I can not change English display languge for Polish.
Is no Polish in Settings -> Region & Language -> Display Language.
Any idea how to install it?
windows phone 7 does not currently support that language, so no there is no way of doing it. though i've heard of a homebrew application which will let you use a keyboard which has been designed for it, and with copy/paste around the corner, when the homebrew xap's work again afterwards, then you should see them appear.
the other way is with the bigger update coming 2nd half of the year which should bring official support.
The Gate Keeper said:
windows phone 7 does not currently support that language, so no there is no way of doing it. though i've heard of a homebrew application which will let you use a keyboard which has been designed for it, and with copy/paste around the corner, when the homebrew xap's work again afterwards, then you should see them appear.
the other way is with the bigger update coming 2nd half of the year which should bring official support.
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But orange PL have the same phone with Polish languge...
I have this same problem
As far as I've read, Windows Phone 7 only fully supports a few languages for this first release (English, French, Italian, German and Spanish), and Polish is not included. If the phones at the store support Polish, then its possible that their display units were customized to support it, but maybe their Retail phones were not. In other words, WP7 direct from Microsoft does not support Polish, but it's possible that Orange or the phone manufacturer customized certain aspects of their devices, and you'd have to ask your carrier/manufacturer about those customizations.
I would suggest going back to the store you got it from and inquiring about it.
Also, the big update coming later this year does not include support for Polish as well.
prjkthack said:
As far as I've read, Windows Phone 7 only fully supports a few languages for this first release (English, French, Italian, German and Spanish), and Polish is not included. If the phones at the store support Polish, then its possible that their display units were customized to support it, but maybe their Retail phones were not. In other words, WP7 direct from Microsoft does not support Polish, but it's possible that Orange or the phone manufacturer customized certain aspects of their devices, and you'd have to ask your carrier/manufacturer about those customizations.
I would suggest going back to the store you got it from and inquiring about it.
Also, the big update coming later this year does not include support for Polish as well.
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But Spanish is not supported in all WP7, for example I cant set Spanish in an HTC Surround. But in a Samsung Focus I can.
jaraya13 said:
But Spanish is not supported in all WP7, for example I cant set Spanish in an HTC Surround. But in a Samsung Focus I can.
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that is the fault of the carrier/oem. it is actually supported, but for some weird reason they (carrier/oem) turned it off. hopefully MS forces the multi-lingual capabilities and it can't be override...
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that is the fault of the carrier/oem. it is actually supported, but for some weird reason they (carrier/oem) turned it off. hopefully MS forces the multi-lingual capabilities and it can't be override...
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So this means that a registry tweak can do the job (enable other languages)? I am wondering why someone hasn't found it yet...
yes a registry tweak can fix it, but it would be for languages only already built into the phone. The additional languages that you're wondering about can't be enabled as they aren't in the phone. Though this is also a questionable statement as I remember seeing a homebrew application keyboard with a lot of support for other languages.
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yes a registry tweak can fix it, but it would be for languages only already built into the phone. The additional languages that you're wondering about can't be enabled as they aren't in the phone. Though this is also a questionable statement as I remember seeing a homebrew application keyboard with a lot of support for other languages.
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Thanks for the reply but wait. What I need in the HTC Surround is Spanish, it has to be definitely built in...
which is true based on versions in other countries. but yea, i'm not sure how to get it enabled. i wonder if you'll get it as part of the no-do update?
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that is the fault of the carrier/oem. it is actually supported, but for some weird reason they (carrier/oem) turned it off. hopefully MS forces the multi-lingual capabilities and it can't be override...
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I hpoe so.
It disappointing that carriers still have the power to modify the system this much.
My text-to-voice language is set to UK english and I have also enabled the 'force programs to use this choice' option yet the navigation app still uses the american english voice.
Anyone else seeing this on the desire?
Maybe the uk choice is not installed?
Swyped from Oxygen with Transparent XDA App
Both UK and US English packs seem to be installed and are available as language selections. The 'listen to an example option' indeed correctly uses the UK english voice, but google navigation refuses to honour that choice... Does anyone know where maps stores its language choice as it seems to ignore the 'voice input and output' settings?
(this is on close-to-stock gingerbread ROM with maps v5.8.0)
I had the same problem - it's annoying having a robot tell you what to do, even worse to have an American robot bossing you around.
After a lot of tinkering, the problem seems to be that Navigation gets confused if your global language and your text-to-speech language aren't the same. So you need to change your global language to English (UK) in Menu / Language and Keyboard / Select Language. The trouble is, the stripped down Gingerbread for HTC Desire doesn't have English (UK) as an option - only English (US). So you also need to run a little app called "Any Locale, a switching widget" (by leohoo) available free on the market, to let you select English (UK).
Once you have selected English (UK) as your global language, you can actually delete the "Any Locale" app to save storage space.
And ta-da! Annoying English robot is back.
Thanks, it does look like a Google Maps bug, but this works....
UK language
@ SolentUK
THANKS a bunch for that app info! Finally got rid of that American [email protected]%.
It's ok. I can say that. I'm American.
I love the British accent. It sounds just like Ferb from Phineas and Ferb.
Yeah, I like to watch cartoons.... still.
Speech in Navigation is stuck
OKay. Here's the scenario.
Got tired of U.S. female robot very quickly.
Selected English UK whch sounds like Ferb from Phineas and Ferb, if you watch Disney...
Had to use Any Locale to switch to the English UK
Work for a few days, then intermittently went back to U.S. Female robot.
Downloaded SVOX and the voice Oliver UK. He worked for weeks.
All of a sudden now, when I start Navigation(Google) the only things Oliver says is "50 feet". Tthen in about 20 seconds or so, he repeats "50 feet. 50 feet."
Reset all of the language inputs and even tried using different languages. Still Oliver comes on and says "50 feet."
Uninstalled SVOX and Oliver. rebooted phone, but still Oliver comes on saying, yep. you guessed it, "50 feet".
Tried resetting languages ifor the default and langauge inputs and text to speech...again and used Any Locale. Nope!
I know that Google Nav can be buggy a little, but c'mon!
Any help is welcome. I'm excellent at navigating and reading maps. Don't need a GPS, but damn it! It's supposed to be a feature that works, therefore I want to use it. It makes a fun toy.