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Received MDA III from T-mobile

I suppose MDA III were all equippend with 128MB RAM and 96MB ROM.
I am looking at settings/ device information / hardware, but I cannot see the true size of the ROM.
Thanks and waiting for suggestions
saulo866

They all say that.
Go to the Memory applet, and view your free 'Storage' memory. That should ease your mind.

still much less than 96MB
Dear TheGadget
Please explain, elaborate:
1.
I see two storage areas:
- storage
- extended ROM
After a hard reset (no programs installed, except I have sync my inbox) the memory applet is saying:
- storage: used 0.01MB free 43.25MB
- extended ROM: used 15.89MB free 0.08MB
The main screen says
Total Memory 125.77 (I guess this is the 128MB RAM)
Anyway (43.25 + 0.08)MB is surely more than 32MB but still MUCH LESS than 96MB.
2.
How do you explain that on my MDA COMPACT, under device information, I see
RAM SIZE: 64MB (correct)
FLASH SIZE: 64MB (correct)
- storage: used 0.45MB free 7.15MB
- extended ROM: used 10.19MB free 8.77MB
on my MDA III I see
RAM SIZE: 128MB (correct)
FLASH SIZE: 32MB (!??!)
Thanks and waiting
Saulo866

Re: still much less than 96MB
saulo866 said:
I see two storage areas:
- storage
- extended ROM
After a hard reset (no programs installed, except I have sync my inbox) the memory applet is saying:
- storage: used 0.01MB free 43.25MB
- extended ROM: used 15.89MB free 0.08MB
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The 3rd part of the rom is the part that holds the MS operating system. Which I would presume is the 32mb of 'flash rom' you can see in Device Info.
I don't think there are any claims that 96mb is available as free storage space?
JD

Thanks Jdee
In fact to be more detailed, after scrolling I see the following info (Device Information > Hardware):
RAM size: 128MB
Flash Size: 32MB
Flich Chip type: 28F128K3
Storage Size: 43.26MB
Can you confirm that, you see the same data?
Thanks
saulo866

Yes, just the same in my Xda IIs.
JD

Re: still much less than 96MB
You use wrong calculations.
saulo866 said:
After a hard reset (no programs installed, except I have sync my inbox) the memory applet is saying:
- storage: used 0.01MB free 43.25MB
- extended ROM: used 15.89MB free 0.08MB
The main screen says
Total Memory 125.77 (I guess this is the 128MB RAM)
Anyway (43.25 + 0.08)MB is surely more than 32MB but still MUCH LESS than 96MB.
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storage: 43.25Mb. This is 48Mb minus FAT structure and minus some other internal data structures, probably operator boot logos.
extended ROM: 16Mb that contains CAB files.
Flash Size: 32MB - correct. This is flash used by the main device ROM which contains WinCE kernel.
You get 48+16+32=96Mb as written in the specifications. Though only 43Mb can be used by you. Or ~60Mb if you unlock extended ROM and delete everything from there.

Dear Mamaich
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR INFO!
I wish to UNLOCK my extended ROM, get rid of any additional programs and make full use of it as STORAGE MEMORY (for programs, etc)
Can you point me a link for instructions and relevant application to perfomr such a task?
2.
Can you please also explain how to burn me a more recent English Firmware for both my ROM and Extended ROM ?
I currently hanve:
ROM 1.12.00 WWE
Roma Date 09/02/04
Radio 1.00.00
protocol 1337.30
ExtROM: 1.22 ITA (I need to change to ENG!)
Thanks
Saulo866

Alternatively, why not just buy an SD card ? They are very cheap these days.

Virtual memory (swap) on SD Card

Hello everybody. I want to know if there is a way (a methode or a software) to create virtual memory on the SD Card and use it as RAM memory (like the swap file in Windows XP).I'm using the WM6 FAMAN 4.03 beta3 ROM.And thanx

no the current ce5 based roms which include wm5 and 6 dont support virtual memory and nor does ce6 which wm7 will be based on it's deep in the os how
mem is handled
also sd have very slow writes compared to hd's
also sd's have a limited writes before it dies like cd/dvd-rw discs

Thank you for the answer.if there are no way to use swap on wm6 so are there softwares to optimize and free the ram?

meys_toumi said:
Thank you for the answer.if there are no way to use swap on wm6 so are there softwares to optimize and free the ram?
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googling would bring you a lot of apps for this purpose.

[Idea] Windows Mobile partitially loaded from Storage

Hello all,
i have a idea about doing something that would give a huge amount extra space for our phone and possibly could speed the device up.
THe idea is loading parts or the whole windows system from the internal storage.
has anyone ever tried doing something that goes to this direction ?
Please share your opinion.
greetings alphazero

You mean executing from storage (so it does not have to be run from RAM/Pagepool) ? WM 5/6 can do execute in place (XIP) from NOR based ROM/Flash. I am not sure what the Diamond has for it's base 256MB "ROM", probably NAND as its cheaper and writes a lot faster.

psc001 said:
You mean executing from storage (so it does not have to be run from RAM/Pagepool) ? WM 5/6 can do execute in place (XIP) from NOR based ROM/Flash. I am not sure what the Diamond has for it's base 256MB "ROM", probably NAND as its cheaper and writes a lot faster.
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so you think its possible ?

Depends on the base flash type of the Diamon 256MB ROM. Also remember that the read speed (even with NOR flash) is a lot slower than RAM

It's a nice thought, but I think that the performance boost will not be what you expect. A few extra MB's of RAM will not make the device more usable. So to be short: don't spend time on this. Make fast ROM's instead

Missing RAM

I am running energy rom 23518 and all the version are missing 15mb or ram on my tmobile touch pro2. The official upgrade has 188 maximum memory but energy rom only has 173 mb. How I can fix it?

Are you sure there isnt anything running that is using that ram?

building memory on tmobile touch pro2 is 288 and 96 are being used for video and etc. that leaves maximum meory or build in memory avaiable for programs at 188 but on energy rom I only get 173. Energy rom uses about 26mb of ram
sims that bug is giving less maximum memory.

tritron777 said:
building memory on tmobile touch pro2 is 288 and 96 are being used for video and etc. that leaves maximum meory or build in memory avaiable for programs at 188 but on energy rom I only get 173. Energy rom uses about 26mb of ram
sims that bug is giving less maximum memory.
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You might wanna ask the dev of the rom if the bug can be fixed to allow more memory to be freed.

it depends on how well the kitchen is put together
and what packages went in....
it is not a bug,it can't be fixed,it's just the matter of a rom...try another one if you wish

tritron777 said:
I am running energy rom 23518 and all the version are missing 15mb or ram on my tmobile touch pro2. The official upgrade has 188 maximum memory but energy rom only has 173 mb. How I can fix it?
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NRG ROM has a very high pagepool, if I recall correctly, something like 30MB. you can change it, but you need to do this to the image file before you flash the ROM. I have found that anywhere from 16-24MB seems to work well.
There's a tool here you can use to view/change the pagepool of the ROM before you flash it.
more here as well on all this you should read up on:
http://blogs.msdn.com/windowsmobile/archive/2005/11/17/494177.aspx

minimum RAM ROM

Hi,
im looking for a new ROM that will have the minimum RAM footprint, i dont really need anything fancy on the device as it's going to be used for navigation only.
thanks

28005 Release 2 - Lite Edition [27/12/09]
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=4309251&postcount=8

thanks!
any idea hiw much RAM will be left after installing this ROM

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=546805

Hi
Is there anyway to make tweaks or remove unncessary files from MDA Compact III phone to:
1. Increase Ram + Rom Space
2. Make phone run faster
3. Have better reception etc
Thanks in advance.
Fame123