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Motorola Defy worth buying?

Hello guys,
I currently have my good, old, HTC Hero but I think it's time for a change. Is the Motorola Defy worth buying?
I am interested in the following:
1. is it easy to have custom roms?
2. any chance to have a working Gingerbread ROM?
3. are those 512 Mb of RAM enough for these days?
4. should I consider buying Defy or should I just look for another phone?
What's the best Quadrant score you know for Motorola Defy? My record is 428.
Thanks!

If you can wait, I suggest getting the Motorola ATRIX when it comes out at the end of February.
Swyped from my HTC Desire running LeeDrOiD 2.3d with Tapatalk.

I can wait, my Hero is pretty decent at this time. Hummm, but what if the ATRIX will cost 3x or even 4x more than Defy ( I could get a Defy for 240 Euro / 333 AUD )? What's the price that ATRIX is supposed to have at launch?

kastraverde said:
Hummm, but what if the ATRIX will cost 3x or even 4x more than Defy ( I could get a Defy for 240 Euro / 333 AUD )? What's the price that ATRIX is supposed to have at launch?
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Supposedly $599 off contract with AT&T, but it won't be outdated for quite a while yet
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Swyped from my HTC Desire running LeeDrOiD 2.3d with Tapatalk.

Hummm. I hope it will be available worldwide. When I bought my Hero I did so just because my desired phone at that moment, Motorola Droid, was not available in Europe. Right after I bought my Hero, Motorola launched Milestone. I kinda regret not buying the Milestone.
Anyway, my first 4 questions at the first post are still still waiting for some answers, guys. Thanks!

kastraverde said:
Hello guys,
I currently have my good, old, HTC Hero but I think it's time for a change. Is the Motorola Defy worth buying?
I am interested in the following:
1. is it easy to have custom roms?
2. any chance to have a working Gingerbread ROM?
3. are those 512 Mb of RAM enough for these days?
4. should I consider buying Defy or should I just look for another phone?
What's the best Quadrant score you know for Motorola Defy? My record is 428.
Thanks!
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Think the ram would be enough for a while, I've seen people posting quadrant scores 1100-1590, the other plus side is the price and the ruggedness of the phone, I'm considering one myself.
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App

This phone has done nothing but surprise me. i have a samsung epic that is mine personally and the defy is actually owned by my work. This phone easily went head to head with the epic in performance (until the epic got ext 4 hack), and in some cases has actually performed better (ex dungeon defender refused to install on the epic for a long time but have been playing on the defy since it was released).
The only down side is the locked bootloader that makes custom roms (including a GB rom) almost impossible, however there is a great group on here that is willing to help you customize the phone.

kastraverde said:
I am interested in the following:
1. is it easy to have custom roms?
2. any chance to have a working Gingerbread ROM?
3. are those 512 Mb of RAM enough for these days?
4. should I consider buying Defy or should I just look for another phone?
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1. Not really, due to the encrypted bootloader - it is possible but it makes things much more difficult than on other handsets.
2. Almost certainly not until the bootloader can be decrypted in some way or Motorola release it themselves.
3. Yeah, plenty.
4. You're the only person who can answer that.

Brumble said:
Think the ram would be enough for a while, I've seen people posting quadrant scores 1100-1590, the other plus side is the price and the ruggedness of the phone, I'm considering one myself.
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App
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I'm using Mini Info, and my RAM is at a constant 50MB (sometimes less) out of an available 476MB. This phone really knows how to handle stuff. Get it!

512 mb ram is enough to run every application
Standart Quadrant Score is 800 ~ 1000
I see a Guy with a Sense Rom, JIT and OC to 1200 mhz he get 2000+

Hell yeah
sent from my DEFY using XDA App

Yes. Very nice device.

i have an HTC Desire but we got the kids Defys .... must say im very impressed with the defy ... go for it

I got my Defy a couple of weeks ago having spent many hours flashing and re-flashing my Hero with the fantastic roms and kernels built by erasmux, elelinux, radu, Cronos and the others. I have to say I was initially a bit disappointed that I couldn't do the same with my Defy. I did root it and started to tweak it a bit, but to be honest it's such a brilliant phone that there isn't the same imperative as there was with the Hero. For the money you can't get better, and I'm amazed that it's not more widely known. If you read the reviews it's been universally admired, and I've not been disappointed. The screen is outstanding, it's as tough as old boots and it flies, even with Motoblur on it. And if you don't like Motoblur, just remove the widgets and you'll hardly know it's there. It's also a good size - more manageable than some of those 'high-end' phones (Desire HD, Samsung Galaxy S etc) and just as capable.
Can't recommend it highly enough.

shorticus said:
I got my Defy a couple of weeks ago having spent many hours flashing and re-flashing my Hero with the fantastic roms and kernels built by erasmux, elelinux, radu, Cronos and the others. I have to say I was initially a bit disappointed that I couldn't do the same with my Defy. I did root it and started to tweak it a bit, but to be honest it's such a brilliant phone that there isn't the same imperative as there was with the Hero. For the money you can't get better, and I'm amazed that it's not more widely known. If you read the reviews it's been universally admired, and I've not been disappointed. The screen is outstanding, it's as tough as old boots and it flies, even with Motoblur on it. And if you don't like Motoblur, just remove the widgets and you'll hardly know it's there. It's also a good size - more manageable than some of those 'high-end' phones (Desire HD, Samsung Galaxy S etc) and just as capable.
Can't recommend it highly enough.
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Give it some time and the development of roms will pick up because its such a great phone.
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App

Brumble said:
Give it some time and the development of roms will pick up because its such a great phone.
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There'll still be the bootloader issue though.
Until Motorola follow through on their promise to find an alternative solution to encrypting the bootloader that's more hacker-friendly, if indeed they ever bother to do so, we'll be stuck with custom ROMs that are based on the same version of Android as the official ROMs.

Step666 said:
There'll still be the bootloader issue though.
Until Motorola follow through on their promise to find an alternative solution to encrypting the bootloader that's more hacker-friendly, if indeed they ever bother to do so, we'll be stuck with custom ROMs that are based on the same version of Android as the official ROMs.
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Yeah but like i said give it time, nothing is going to happen in an instant.

I just got a quadrant score of 897 running at 1ghz. Nothing major. I could get 1500s easy if my gf didn't install so many games anyway, the phone is worth buying and is waterproof as it claims to be
Sent from my MB525 using XDA App

How does Defy handles Flash?

I would say no, if you can wait then wait a bit!
Encrypted boot-loader means you have to hope Motorola release updates. Wait and see of Motorola change their policies about bootloader, they *may* do it after that youtube comment went wild all over the internet and they responded, but they may not either.
I will never ever buy a phone that is locked out this way. Right now all new phones released by Sony Ericcson and Motorola have locked bootloader. So if I were you I'd stick to HTC or Samsung.
I mean look at something like HTC HD2 or HTC Desire, these phones are now pretty old but have multiple gingerbread ROMs, cause they are fully hackable. of course anything that is a Nexus is also hackable and the Galaxy S range from Samsung is good also.
If I needed a phone right now, I'd be looking at the following:
- Google Nexus S
- Samsung Galaxy S
- HTC Desire HD
- HTC Desire Z
They are all known to be hackable and recent models and will perform better than a Hero.

[Q] Opinions please, Defy for a noob

Hi, I'm asking for some opinions from Defy owners, please.
A friend of mine is looking to get a new phone on contract (UK), around the £15/20mth mark. I'm an old hand with Android (mostly HTC handsets though) and therefore his first port of call for advice. I am however a bit strapped for time at the moment, and can't scour all the forums for the info I need to make my recommendations.
I'm pretty sure that I'll tell him to get a Defy or an LG Optimus One.
Looking at the specs it seems like the Defy is the winner on pretty much all counts:
Screen: Defy 3.7" 480x854 Optimus 3.2" 320x480
RAM: Both 512MB
ROM: Defy 1.9GB Optimus 512MB
Battery: Defy 1540mAh Optimus 1500mAh
Camera: Defy 5MP Optimus 3.1MP
So, what is the problem I hear you cry? Well, as we all know, hardware specs don't tell the whole story. From the little I've read about the LG software, it's pretty close to vanilla Android - and it's 2.2 as well. The Defy has the overhead of Motoblur and is running on 2.1. And we all know how Motorola treats updates on Android.
What I want to know is this: what is the Defy like on a day to day basis, with the stock UK ROM? My friend will not want to root (or have me do it for him) - he just wants a phone that works out of the box.
Also, you will probably be able to save me a lot of searching if you answer this question - has Motorola said anything about updating the Defy to Froyo? If so, when? LG has committed to upgrading the Optimus One to Gingerbread - I know that will never happen for the Defy, but Froyo would be nice.
Also, any other relevant info you think I ought to know would be greatly appreciated, ie. known faults, bugs etc. I realise it must have the locked Moto bootloader.
Thanks!

I believe you've summed it up pretty well, and believe that your friend will like the defy out of the box over the optimus for all the reasons you mentioned, not to mention this thing is far more accident-resistant over the optimus. As for Froyo, official roms have already been released in several markets so I would assume all markets will get it officially. As you know, there are plenty of unofficial froyo roms and some without blur that work great on here if you want to go that route (but doesn't sound like you have the time to).
As for moto-blur, it's not that bad...I have two (one for me and one for wife), mine's rooted and overclocked among some other things and running launcher pro (so technically still has blur but it's not launched)...and hers is stock, sure my quadrant score is higher than hers, but for the day to day tasks that 95% users are using, the stock works great and is snappy. I really can't see much difference in speed between hers and mine with most stuff that we do on it. That being said, sounds like your friend isn't going to be in the 5% like those on this forum and therefore the need to go all out with the phone and have to hack the crap out of it, so I believe the stock defy should make a happy friend... But...that's MHO and everyone's preference is different!
btw, I played with the optimus when I was shopping phones, and went with defy...loving every second!

Thanks for that. I posted the same question over in the Optimus One forums, and they all recommended the Defy as well! So, problem solved I guess.
Are there any known issues with the Defy? I'm sure I read somewhere about the headphone port failing regularly, as well as the speaker packing in as well?

yea there were a headspeaker issues ...but thats fixed in newer versions of the phone, so it shouldnt be a problem

Peglezn said:
yea there were a headspeaker issues ...but thats fixed in newer versions of the phone, so it shouldnt be a problem
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That's good to know, thanks.

Is defy worth picking up?

So i sold my Desire Z cuz i didnt like the keyboard and it was faulty, so now i need a new phone. I have always had my eyes on the defy right before i even bought my DZ. So now i am between buying the Defy or the Ideos X5, or should i wait and buy a proper and better phone like the SGS II? I dont have any heavy or high usage, i want good call quality, playing some 3d-games, messaging, browsing and checking email and so on.. i can get it for 300€~ here where i live in sweden so do u think defy is worth picking up? I have been watching reviews all the day and i still dont know if i should pick it up or not? whats ur thoughts about this?
i've also heard about the faulty earpiece is this fixed with the new defys or is it still common?
edit: oh ive also got another question: when u decide to put on pattern lock, and when u put the phone to sleep and wake it up does it go through motorola default lock -> unlock pattern -> phone opens or is it unlock pattern -> phone opens?

the whole earpiece fiasco is fixed in new defy's, and if your defy is running 2.1 then yes you can turn of the normal lock screen and only have a pattern, any 2.2 rom will require you to have the lockscreen (so default lock -> unlock pattern -> phone opens) this is a problem of froyo not the defy. I'm unsure but i believe there are apps that remove teh default lock screen

Hi
The earpiece problem was never common just more than average, i know five people including me that have a Defy and non of us has the earpiece Problem.
Moreover we are all very happy with it, its the best android phone that came in to my hands so far. In my opinion, the only phone that can compete from the hardware point of view is the Samsung Wave, but it doesn't have Android on it.
the only reason to buy another is if you want a larger screen, but thats personal taste, i didn't
greetings

I used to have a Desire...i like my Moto Defy much more. This is my 4th Android handset...not due another until next February and i know this phone will be good to me until then!

I came to the defy from a spica and i love this phone: all applications runs very smoothly, and for me having it resistant and waterproof is useful (under rain or at beach
For the earphone problems, it seems that it has been fixed with the reçent deliveries.

Pros of the defy:
Life-proof
Great scree
fast processor (that over-clocks well)
Cons:
Ear-piece failure
MotoBlur
Android 2.1 and very very slow update schedule.
Personally now I have put a blurless 2.2 on and had my ear-piece fixed I like the phone again. My advice go for it, but buy it from somewhere with a generous returns policy!
Olly

Should add I am using the 2.2 rom from ephumuris. Good work mate, cheers!
Olly

ollyshaw said:
Cons:
Ear-piece failure
MotoBlur
Android 2.1 and very very slow update schedule.
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With custom roms and ear-piece fix there is no more cons
But if you want to keep the warranty the cons are still here... That's up to you

ollyshaw said:
Pros of the defy:
Life-proof
Great scree
fast processor (that over-clocks well)
Cons:
Ear-piece failure
MotoBlur
Android 2.1 and very very slow update schedule.
Personally now I have put a blurless 2.2 on and had my ear-piece fixed I like the phone again. My advice go for it, but buy it from somewhere with a generous returns policy!
Olly
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i fail to see how blur is a problem when you can just use launcher pro and forget about blur, even my bog standard defy used as just a phone will hit 5 days of standby. Some people even like blur you know *shock horror*

Jt612 said:
the whole earpiece fiasco is fixed in new defy's, and if your defy is running 2.1 then yes you can turn of the normal lock screen and only have a pattern, any 2.2 rom will require you to have the lockscreen (so default lock -> unlock pattern -> phone opens) this is a problem of froyo not the defy. I'm unsure but i believe there are apps that remove teh default lock screen
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thx mate, but in galaxy S u can use unlock pattern -> phone opens that was something that annoyed me in the desire z, but in my friends galaxy s it worked very well with just unlock pattern...
is the defy hard to root? i heard u only need z4root and then its done?

Z4root didnt work for me on 2.51. Super one click for 2.1 however worked great. Have to run it windows though.
Sent from my Defy on CM7.

despite the hole ear piece problem , i liked it ,cause i've bought jabra street bt headset and i'm using my phone with total freedom plus all the games are working smoothly like nova 2 it's damn perfect.
so i'm one of the biggest fans. even i really recommend it more than ericsson arc
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MrBelter said:
i fail to see how blur is a problem when you can just use launcher pro and forget about blur, even my bog standard defy used as just a phone will hit 5 days of standby. Some people even like blur you know *shock horror*
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The problem with it is not the widgets or the launcher (I use ADW). The problem for me has been wonky Facebook sync and the odd infinite loop and battery drain with the exchange sync. Admittedly I have not seen this with blur on versions 2.51 and above.
Maybe not a big problem, but certainly in my top three gripes.
Olly

I think this phone is a best-buy, especially here in Romania, where you can get it pretty cheap, compared to other phones with a similar screen. For me very important is the screen resolution, and you cannot get any better then this, without going to a tablet. The processor speed is irelevant, and 800MHz is enough for everyday use. It can be overclocked easily.

thx guys 4 ur answers, i am between this and ideos x5...
the problem is that motorola wont upgrade it beyond 2.2, and i havent got the guts to rooting and puting in custom rom on any phone yet cuz the fear of brickning it
btw how is the phone's GPS? i intend to use it in my car for navigation is it trustable?

I've been a big fan of SE for a long time, but Defy really changed my opinion. Don't know how it is in the rest of the world, but in Brazil Motorola is known to be the reference for well built hardware, durable and resistant phones. This phone has also the best trade-off between price and performance here at the moment. Recommended.

it's totally worth it, especially with such a great community of developers like we have here.

where i live (sweden) there is some retailers who will ship the phone with this rom included as stock http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1040777 and with 2.2 aka no blur !
i just need to see SGS II it seems awesome...but the screen is way to big for me

is 346€ worth for a brand new defy running android 2.2 nordic? without a contract ofc. I wonder if its easy to overclock it to 1000mhz? will it drain my battery if i did it? which program to download for overclocking?

romdroid. said:
is 346€ worth for a brand new defy running android 2.2 nordic? without a contract ofc. I wonder if its easy to overclock it to 1000mhz? will it drain my battery if i did it? which program to download for overclocking?
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Naturally it depends on the price of other alternatives. But 346€ is a bit expensive compared with ~270€ in HK. It's easy to overclock. Just root and install SetVsel or Milestone Overclock.

Should I get a Samsung Captivate Glide (i927)?

Sorry if this has already been asked, but how is the Samsung Glide? I have been using an HTC Status (ChaCha) for years, and just recently rooted. I liked the form factor and keyboard, but the internal memory was miserably limited, even after rooting and getting rid of bloatware, moving apps to SD, etc. The sound from the speaker was pretty poor too (I am aware that Beats audio can be installed to rooted phones ... have yet to try that) and putting the SD card slot underneath the battery is awkward. I have gotten a handle on Android's strengths and weaknesses (Gingerbread) so I will have a better idea of what to expect for my next phone. I definitely prefer a physical keyboard, and most Android based phones do not have one, or have poor specs. The Captivate Glide seems to measure up. I have read the specs GSM Arena gave on this phone,and it seems pretty good. It claims that it has Flash. Is this Adobe Flash, or something along the lines of HTC Status' Flash Lite? I definitely want Adobe Flash support, even if Adobe plans to end future support. I have an LG Neon lying around, a basic phone with a slide out keyboard ... it was okay, but for some weird reason only recognized one key input at a time, which made playing video games like Galaga miserable, even though the graphics were quite close to the arcade. I need to be able to press more than one key input at a time! I am also interested in Ice Cream Sandwich and Jelly Bean, neither of which would likely run very well on the Status, if they even can run. I have read of Glide users having a lot of problems with ICS. Should I wait for another phone with ICS preloaded, or just wait for a better Glide optimized ICS or Jelly Bean? Finally, how easy was it to root this phone? Rooting the Status was a real pain, as the HTC Dev software was getting me nowhere, by claiming the rom version is not supported ... even after the AT&T update. I bought the XTC Clip and couldn't get it to work, until a friend of mine got it working right (stick the flex cable in real tight in the SIM slot) and put on CWM and SuperUser. Somehow it did not unlock the carrier though. Anything like this for the Glide? How is the battery life?

Hello DearestLeader (that's an interesting choice of nickname given the origin of the devices being discussed!)
There are a few threads reviewing the device. I've played with one prior to giving it (SGH-I927R) to my girlfriend, so I won't be able to comment on all aspects of the phone.
If you're buying outright, another, more expensive (500$ outright) model that might be worth looking into is T-Mobile USA's recently announced Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G (SGH-T699). Same screen, worse camera (5MP versus 8MP for the 927), DC-HSPA 42 instead of HSPA 21, and a Snapdragon S4 Krait SoC instead of a Tegra 2. And it does support AT&T bands as well.
The ICS update for the Glide was just pulled from Kies, which indicates another build is on its way, likely fixing the issues reported here.
Rooting is easy: switch the phone to download mode, install CWM with Odin, install superuser zip of your choosing.
Unlocking is easy provided you're rooted and know how to use a hex editor.

If you're with Sprint, they released a new qwerty physical keyboard android called Motorola Photon Q 4G LTE. Comparable stats to our glide but it does have ICS preloaded.
I came from a Sony Ericsson k850i and couldn't live without buttons so I grabbed the Glide. It had a rough start not being as popular as other devices. We didn't get an official otterbox case or get official cyanogen mods but in the last few months, devs/testers/community really banded together and we have quite the support. We may not have ICS 100% but the hardworking devs and testers will take care of that. JB seems like a dream but who knows, someone just may surprise us.
Like Darkshado said, rooting & unlocking is fairly easy. There are many guides in the development sub-forum. Battery life was crap on gingerbread but improves quite a bit when on ICS. The only problem I've ever had was very minor GPS finding issues but I don't use it extensively so it was negligible.

With the ICS update, the Captivate Glide is a spectacular device. :good:
There were several major issues with Gingerbread (compass orientation incorrect, general lag and instability, poor bluetooth audio quality and battery life, etc) but they've all been resolved by the update and the community.
The screen, while not the highest res (800x480) is AMOLED and looks great. The CPU, while not quad-core, is still plenty fast, and it has 1gb RAM. Onboard storage is pitiful, but add a 32gb SD card and swap /mnt/sdcard with /mnt/sdcard/external_sd, and your primary storage can become up to 64gb.
It's not LTE, but it is still pretty quick. On Rogers in Canada I get ~5mbit/s down and 2mbit/sec up, which is totally respectable.
It's also a very cheap device now, since it is somewhat dated. Honestly, I can't recommend another keyboard phone more highly.
My $0.02.

bottom line, captivate glide is best phone available with physical keyboard.
even before ICS, i was highly please with the performance.
camera pics are GREAT
until they come out with a quad core phone with a physical keyboard, the only other phone i'd consider right now is a galaxy note.
i love this phone :good:

Thanks for the replies!
I will have to stick with AT&T, as I am on my mother's plan and not only she but several other people I call or text regularly are on AT&T too.
I did try out the phone at the AT&T store and it was nice. However, the sales rep said units sold after August 26th will not run Adobe Flash (the in store unit did not have it but was downloadable from Google Play and ran great). He did have people returning units for lack of Adobe Flash (I do not ask if these folks tried rooting or if they even bothered to download from Google Play). If Flash is good to go, without rooting (have to wait to see if there are no defects lor serious flaws like frequent unexpected reboots before rooting, as my warranty would be void) then I am getting one.
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bottom line, captivate glide is best phone available with physical keyboard.
even before ICS, i was highly please with the performance.
camera pics are GREAT
until they come out with a quad core phone with a physical keyboard, the only other phone i'd consider right now is a galaxy note.
i love this phone :good:
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Worse case you could probably sideload the Flash apk onto the phone.
Remember that root's not supposed to void your warranty, there were some XDA portal posts about this iirc. Either way its nothing that a DIY stock re-flash wouldn't solve.

I have to stick with AT&T for the same reason. I love this phone though, but I just can't get used to the physical keyboard. My girlfriend texts and uses my phone sometimes and she loves the physical keyboard though. Overall its a good phone and I would recommend it to anyone wanting an android with decent specs.
sent from my captivate glide running ICS (NardROM 0.4 Rooted)

I have the unlocked (and of course rooted) Samsung Galaxy Captivate Glide that I picked up used (but still in very good condition), and I can tell you that purchasing the phone (either old or new) is worth it, IMO. I like the fact that this phone have the hardware keyboard, decent organic LED screen, dual-core superscalar out-of-order Cortex A9 processor, and good 8MP camera. 4GB on-board storage didn't stop me from getting it. Loving this phone.
There is also few Android phone with the same hardward keyboard setup - try browsing through your favorite PC part internet store like Newegg as they sells both locked and unlocked smartphones nowaday too.
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You can also buy a Bluetooth keyboard that's originally made for ipods that I seen once, they work for Android too I'm sure if you really want or need a keyboard. I use my touchscreen more personally than my slider, except on chrome for some reason has a bug? And let's me use my screen keyboard maybe 20% of the time.. odd but lol
Samsung SGH-i927:
CWMR Touch v4.0.0.1
Keyboard fix
Superuser 3.2r3 ARM Optimized
Samsung SGH-i897:
A work in progress…
Stock & Rooted (need kernel and update)

hazard1nc said:
You can also buy a Bluetooth keyboard that's originally made for ipods that I seen once, they work for Android too I'm sure if you really want or need a keyboard. I use my touchscreen more personally than my slider, except on chrome for some reason has a bug? And let's me use my screen keyboard maybe 20% of the time.. odd but lol
Samsung SGH-i927:
CWMR Touch v4.0.0.1
Keyboard fix
Superuser 3.2r3 ARM Optimized
Samsung SGH-i897:
A work in progress…
Stock & Rooted (need kernel and update)
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Ya I experienced that bug on chrome a well. Kinda sucks that the soft keyboard would not display.kept having to pull out the hardware one for quick searches. That's why I switched to dolphin.
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I love this phone
I came from HTC g2 phone t-Mobile. I got this phone used off ebay in great condition. The company I work for is on att and I wanted a physical keyboard. Not too many to choose from. I use both on screen & physical keyboard equally. Rooting was a snap and am so happy with ics. Before ics I used dman's Inception v2 rom and loved it. Now I'm using nardrom 0.4 and hope dman comes out with a v3 rom. I'd recommend this phone to any one who likes the choice of a physical keyboard.

If you need a physical keyboard, GSM service, and want a powerful phone, there really aren't many other options. I say get it, I love mine.

I've been wondering about this myself. I love the Epic 4G, but I don't want to go back to Sprint, and I'm not too thrilled with Cricket (I don't love them nor hate them, they'll do for now). So I figure, get a Captivate Glide, unlock it, and go to Net10 or Straight Talk. The Captivate Glide appears to be a sort of unofficial successor to the Epic 4G, so it seems logical. Plus since its GSM I can take it with me whenever I travel outside the United States.

rogernizzLe said:
Like Darkshado said, rooting & unlocking is fairly easy. There are many guides in the development sub-forum. Battery life was crap on gingerbread but improves quite a bit when on ICS. The only problem I've ever had was very minor GPS finding issues but I don't use it extensively so it was negligible.
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Well I do use the GPS very extensively, so this is giving me pause in getting this phone.

EpicMikeNC said:
Well I do use the GPS very extensively, so this is giving me pause in getting this phone.
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Depends on the Rom you are using for GPS. I have found GB to work great with the GPS but ICS is a little lack luster as it connects but only after about 10 minutes. Please be patient as a lot of people have mixed results and I am curious with CM9 or possibly CM10 with GPS once those roms are out of alpha.
JB

dudejb said:
Depends on the Rom you are using for GPS. I have found GB to work great with the GPS but ICS is a little lack luster as it connects but only after about 10 minutes. Please be patient as a lot of people have mixed results and I am curious with CM9 or possibly CM10 with GPS once those roms are out of alpha.
JB
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Ah okay. See the most I was going to do to a Captivate Glide when I get it would be to root it. So basically if I root it I should go ahead and get a rom, preferably the one you mentioned (GB), until something better comes along. I have no problem waiting, and if GB is a good fix in the meantime, well problem solved.

GB is not a rom per say but I meant Ginger Bread which is what it has installed by default. There are many GB Roms available I recommend OSIMOOD but I am sure many will recommend others. I have never had an issue with GPS on any of the available Gingerbread Roms. Only people that had issues with GPS and GB are not in North America and then you will have to do some tweak for it to work. Some have got that working and some have not. I am sure that is where you saw many posts on GPS for the glide having issues. Just go back and see those posts as to where the people are from. ICS (Ice Cream Sandwich) on the other hand has some issues where it can take a long time to connect but as I said before some people are working on this.
JB

I use gps all the time on my Glide. The most issues I've had is a few time I've had to turn gas off and back on 2 or 4 times in a row.
But that only happened a few times in 5 months.
This ia using both the stock GB and the stock ICS , and after rooting ICS.
Overall, i would give GPS on my Glide 9.5 out of 10
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GB is not a rom per say but I meant Ginger Bread which is what it has installed by default. There are many GB Roms available I recommend OSIMOOD but I am sure many will recommend others. I have never had an issue with GPS on any of the available Gingerbread Roms. Only people that had issues with GPS and GB are not in North America and then you will have to do some tweak for it to work. Some have got that working and some have not. I am sure that is where you saw many posts on GPS for the glide having issues. Just go back and see those posts as to where the people are from. ICS (Ice Cream Sandwich) on the other hand has some issues where it can take a long time to connect but as I said before some people are working on this.
JB
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I see. So when I get a Glide, I can either leave it alone (let it stay on GB and not update it to ICS), or root it to stock GB. If I do the latter then I can get roms made just for the GB.

[Q] Suggestions for using a HTC One V without cell service

Hi all-
Been using android tablets for a while now but this is my first android phone (OK, not really, but the last one was on Donut... I don't think that even counts anymore...). Anyways, picked up the one V on Cyber monday ($54 w/tax - $17.50 from fatwallet = awesome!). I have no intention of ever using it as a phone, but it's certainly a nice little android device. I might use it with grooveip to make occasional wifi calls (damn this 2-year iPhone contract...), but other than that, this is just going to be a media player / gaming device.
So I'm just curious: anyone else using one of these as a media player or gaming device, and any suggestions? I've already unlocked and rooted, but so far haven't ROMmed or themed, so I'm open to suggestions if anyone has them, including apps or other uses I haven't though of.
Thanks!
Also- I have it on airplane mode to save batteries. Is there any way to get rid of the "airplane mode" panel on the lockscreen, and the Airplane icon on the status bar? It's not necessary, but it would be nice if anyone knows how to do it.

As for getting rid of the airplane notification, not really.
I gave my HTC Desire to my son, no sim card and he is fine with it. Lots of alternate WiFi calling and texting apps out there.
Basically you'll have an Android powered IPod touch with superior build quality and infinitely customizable.
I recommend buying Titanium backup, app backup to the cloud etc. This way if you play with lots of ROM flashing it is easy to restore all your usual apps, with everything else Google, dropbox etc no computer required.
If your happy with stock, or rooted stock then play away, this is a light weight portable device.
Have fun
Sent from my HTC One V using Tapatalk 2

slack04 said:
Hi all-
Been using android tablets for a while now but this is my first android phone (OK, not really, but the last one was on Donut... I don't think that even counts anymore...). Anyways, picked up the one V on Cyber monday ($54 w/tax - $17.50 from fatwallet = awesome!). I have no intention of ever using it as a phone, but it's certainly a nice little android device. I might use it with grooveip to make occasional wifi calls (damn this 2-year iPhone contract...), but other than that, this is just going to be a media player / gaming device.
So I'm just curious: anyone else using one of these as a media player or gaming device, and any suggestions? I've already unlocked and rooted, but so far haven't ROMmed or themed, so I'm open to suggestions if anyone has them, including apps or other uses I haven't though of.
Thanks!
Also- I have it on airplane mode to save batteries. Is there any way to get rid of the "airplane mode" panel on the lockscreen, and the Airplane icon on the status bar? It's not necessary, but it would be nice if anyone knows how to do it.
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I'm certain that fatwallet pending of 17.50 isn't going to go through but if it does, lucky us.
I prefer the stock sense rom because of the camera feature and i swap my kernel so overclocking to 1.8GHz stable. Ram is really limiting the device but firefox seems to work faster than stock/google chrome.
Stuck my 32GB micro sd in it. It's a GPS (navigon), game, web browser, texter (G-Voice).
Lastly, I'll say this I actual like the device's size. Smart phones are getting too big, like my nexus 4. Snowy days like these I'm too scared to take my Nexus 4 to class so I take my HTC one V. I'm not afraid of dropping or being more risky (Nexus 4 glass front/back).
Future I hope there be a quad-core 2GB ram in a size of 3.7 It's nearly the perfect. Like a true phone instead of extra large phone.
PS: Swipe is amazing.

slack04 said:
Hi all-
Been using android tablets for a while now but this is my first android phone (OK, not really, but the last one was on Donut... I don't think that even counts anymore...). Anyways, picked up the one V on Cyber monday ($54 w/tax - $17.50 from fatwallet = awesome!). I have no intention of ever using it as a phone, but it's certainly a nice little android device. I might use it with grooveip to make occasional wifi calls (damn this 2-year iPhone contract...), but other than that, this is just going to be a media player / gaming device.
So I'm just curious: anyone else using one of these as a media player or gaming device, and any suggestions? I've already unlocked and rooted, but so far haven't ROMmed or themed, so I'm open to suggestions if anyone has them, including apps or other uses I haven't though of.
Thanks!
Also- I have it on airplane mode to save batteries. Is there any way to get rid of the "airplane mode" panel on the lockscreen, and the Airplane icon on the status bar? It's not necessary, but it would be nice if anyone knows how to do it.
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Stock rom is very laggy when it comes to games and apps. This doesn't happen with any other custom rom. If you need it only for gaming I would recommend cyanogenmod 9 or 10, aokp or any other non-sense rom, because sense is very heavy.
Sent from my HTC One V using xda app-developers app

I also bought this phone on cyber monday and do not pay for service as I am on T-Mobile and have the sgs3. This is a cool lil phone. Sense is cool and all and am currently running stock because cm based ROMs give me a weaker WiFi signal in my experience since this is a WiFi only device that is a big no no.
I hate HTC bootloader but their build quality is top notch, pretty much the opposite of Samsung which is open yet the build quality is lacking
Sent from my SGH-T999 using xda premium

Ha, so already went back on my original statement; I activated this morning because on short notice I needed a local number.

Can't touch my Nexus 4!

soulz said:
Can't touch my Nexus 4!
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How do you say "non sequitur" in Russian?