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Just saw this on Engadget. I heard about this phone being super strong but I did not think you would put it in water.
Want to see a smartphone take a bath? Good, we thought so. At CTIA today we got the opportunity to submerge the Motorola Defy, a dust-proof, water and scratch-resistant Android device, and it came out completely unscathed. Since we've heard plenty about this hardware on the specs end, and even spotted it in the wild last month, we'll just leave you to this video and let you on your way.
http://www.engadget.com/2010/10/07/motorola-defy-defies-water-and-lives-happily-ever-after/
So I recently searched for a new phone with android on it installed, after my HD2 with Android 2.3 gave the soul with it's broken touch screen (digitizer). And I found the Motorola Defy which seems like a pretty nice and tough phone. (It costs €279 for a new Defy here)
What I'm wondering is how you guys feel about the phone in general? I've also read thread's about rooting the phone with android 2.2 ([ROM] Pays-ROM Defy v6.0 Froyo with Ginger feeling [3.4.2-164 official]) and I'm wondering if it can keep up with the phones of today after rooting and overclocking it. (Maybe give an example of which phones it can be compared to )
I'm tempted to buy the Defy because after researching and reading a lot of reviews I see that it's actually a pretty good phone for this time. Although I love the 4,3" screen of my HD2, I just get a weird feeling with the 3,7" screen of the Defy (Although the bigger they are the harder they break ). So is there anyone who came from a phone with a bigger screen that has the same feeling or doesn't it matter much to you?
I just like the sturdiness feeling of the Defy too much over other phones. I always get a feeling with other phones that if I drop them they are dead for good.
So all in all, are you happy about your phone and can you recommend it to me with the rooted android 2.2 and overclocking? And is it possible to rewind Android 2.2 to it's original state so it won't break the warranty for a repair?
It's a good phone, I'm running rooted 2.2, and its great and fluid, with a great battery life(2 days with moderate to heavy usage). That said if you don't care about the water resistance. Pay a bit more and get the Sgs galaxy s1. A lot of bang for your buck and a better screen, not to mention an unlocked bootloader and official 2.3.
Just drop it the other day from around 2.5" feet to solid tile ground screen down. Got a scare but luckily it is still alright. Love the water resistant, as I wash it a few times before.
CM 7 is also available for defy
It's a good buy !
The lumia 800 has eliminated it. I'm not even certain I try to stop myself from dropping it anymore. I just kinda let it happen.
z33dev33l said:
The lumia 800 has eliminated it. I'm not even certain I try to stop myself from dropping it anymore. I just kinda let it happen.
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Wish I could say that for my Titan! Messed the back plate real bad last time I just 'kinda let it happen'!
Luckily was within the exchange period
BTW Titan 1 year warranty covers 1 accessory - so if this happens again, I might have to replace the back. But yeah, thanks for making me jealous!
Ouch, I know how it feels, I dropped every single phone I had. Sometimes I've been lucky, sometimes not. It's a freaking pain, I don't trust any OEM, no matter how tough they say their phone is, and I use cases. Anyway I'm an active person and so even cases are often not enough for me: I always manage to destroy EVERYTHING at some point.
Anyway are you REALLY sure that your phone will endure some serious drop? I mean it should at least get somewhat worn in those sharp corners or something...what if it hits the floor with the glass? With that curved shape it could take some serious hit. I'd be even more OCD with this phone than I am with my plasticky Omnia
Btw, do you use a screen protector on it?
It happened to me with the Samsung Omnia 7 a few times, but it was ok
No case or screen protector, survived a two story fall.
Polycarbonate must be really tough, I'd still be concerned about the glass, sure it's Gorilla glass but if you live in a sandy place and you're an offroad biker like me it's never tough enough. I've even managed to scratch the sapphire crystal on my good old Sector last year. I had to break my wrist against a rock in the process tho...nothing too bad, it was just my left hand, I could still use the phone with my right hand
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Polycarbonate must be really tough, I'd still be concerned about the glass, sure it's Gorilla glass but if you live in a sandy place and you're an offroad biker like me it's never tough enough. I've even managed to scratch the sapphire crystal on my good old Sector last year. I had to break my wrist against a rock in the process tho...nothing too bad, it was just my left hand, I could still use the phone with my right hand
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My one year old tosses his around as I'd expect. Might not be as intense as off road biking, but he's close.
I really wanted to get a Lumia a while ago, but I thought that the timing wasn't perfect yet: this is still Nokia's first WP7 device and therefore it can't be perfect, infact it's apparently a bit more buggy compared to other WP7 devices. At the end of the day if you don't care too much about camera, flash memory, screen size or build quality every second generation WP7 device performs equally well. Before I pull the trigger on a fully blown WP7 flagship I want to wait till Apollo and the real superphones come out. Hopefully I will resist with this little Omnia until then, but I'm pretty sure it will become a pain at some point...
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I really wanted to get a Lumia a while ago, but I thought that the timing wasn't perfect yet: this is still Nokia's first WP7 device and therefore it can't be perfect, infact it's apparently a bit more buggy compared to other WP7 devices. At the end of the day if you don't care too much about camera, flash memory, screen size or build quality every second generation WP7 device performs equally well. Before I pull the trigger on a fully blown WP7 flagship I want to wait till Apollo and the real superphones come out. Hopefully I will resist with this little Omnia until then, but I'm pretty sure it will become a pain at some point...
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Think Windows were going to support current + 2 OS updates on all phones. I would presume Gen1s will run uptil Gen3s and Gen2s till Gen4s. I hope Nokia has something more than L900 with Apollo release! I am eyeing that, even though I've got a Titan to play with. It's the design I think.
I want a 800 with an ffc. It'd be perfect. I'm honestly not fond of huge phones despite having sledgehammers as hands.
Remind me to never let you handle my phone should I ever meet you.
A girl from my work just recently dropped her brand new (only 3 days old) Iphone on the concrete in her basement when doing laundry. LOL... and that's why phones should not be made of out glass.
Haven't dropped my week-and-a-half old Cyan Lumia 800 yet, and don't plan on it for a while.
Had a Nokia 8600 LUNA a while back. The back was matte black steel and the entire front was smoked black glass. Was a year before I dropped it on concrete, then another week before the 2nd drop. Right when I dropped it the first time, and got it scratched... my immediate thought was... "I'm so glad I had it for a year before dropping it!"
Looking forward to the durability of the Lumia, though I don't have the tendency to drop my phones, if you don't count them getting flung around when the USB cable catches on my foot.
I moved to windows phone because my 2 month old HP veer broke when dropped
Dropped my titan today off my sink onto our bathroom tiles. It has a hard rubberized case that was a cheapo from ebay, with no real protection under the screen.
outcome, powers up fine and no issues at all, and not even a scratch on the case!. Way better than any of the new iphones would be.
For those of you who can't be trusted with an expensive phone...
http://pocketnow.com/android/casio-g-shock-android-may-be-the-chunkiest-looking-smartphone-ever
I knocked my Lumia 800 of my kitchen counter and it landed face down onto the tiled kitchen floor and it slide underneath the kitchen table. From the smack sound it made when it hit the floor I knew the screen was cracked and to be honest I was pissed off because I had read on here at how tough it was.
Well f*ck me there wasn't a mark on it!
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http://pocketnow.com/android/casio-g-shock-android-may-be-the-chunkiest-looking-smartphone-ever
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I'd buy one if it wasn't android.
I have dropped my HTC HD7 (yes some still exist) multiple times, and it is fine. The back just flies off and the battery just comes out. Once it flew out of my pocket while I was running across the street. Compare that to my friend who's Iphone screen has cracked like 4 times (literally-none of them were bad drops either). Love my phone.
hi all
i recently asked a retailer about the price for the arc and acr S recently ( dunno why but o have the urge to do so and i did ) he said the price for ARC is RM1000 and ARC S is RM 1300 which is surprisingly cheap ..and i do love the phone ..never seen anyone used it but i looks gorgeous in videos ...i just bought a galaxy ACE about a month ago and i am planning to change one at the end of the year at december ...so should i get the arc ? i know it have some crappy processors and low ram but i want to hear some opinion for the users ...is it worth the RM 1000? and i do expect the price to drop to RM800 at the end of the year ...
Look wise, the arc is top tier, hands down. I guess it really ties down to what you expect out of your phone. Personally, a phone to me is to remain a phone and not a mini laptop, so the specs of the Arc S is good enough for me. It's fast enough to do everything that I want; stream videos, browse the internet, call/email/text etc. All those hype about new phones, dual cores and etc, what is the purpose exactly? It loads a page faster in 1 sec? Ridiculous. Didn't mean to rant haha, but yeah. If you want a phone that stands out and looks good and is good for everyday use, I would recommend getting the Arc/S. Not to mention, the Camera is awesome.
Hey tohno,nice seeing u here brick guy. Im using arc s rite now n lovin it. Anyway i bought mine from a guy who just used it for two months at rm900. Its used but the guy is new with android n havent mod anything yet so i think its fair if i said that it come fresh from the shop
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I say it doesn't worth it, now you have new Sony phones, hTC and many.
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A medium-high performance phone, with excellent camera and versatile multimedia functions, paired with large high resolution phone for low price? Damn yeah it's worth it!
Buy Arc S
Buy Arc S ...
Great phone ...
Bought one on the launch date itself ...
Xtremely happy
sweet! then i think i will eye for the arc s then!
oh hi malice!
I bought mine 'cause it was on Special + 50€ cash back. So i got it for 350€ in last July.
Love it except the screen which is too weak. And now it is quite weak for new apps.
I'm looking to get a Nexus in a couple of month. But since i unlocked my bootloader I really enjoy it more.
This is definitely not a waste of money.
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Love it except the screen which is too weak. And now it is quite weak for new apps.
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Screen is strong enough and there are no new apps that I am aware of that require a certain screen strength...
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Screen is strong enough and there are no new apps that I am aware of that require a certain screen strength...
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My screen has a broken line on the left side. It has been always carried in a leather holder.
Try to play GTA3 with the arc.
It is a good phone but it is (a bit) outdated.
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Please don't buy neither Arc nor Arc S, you will face some very depressing problems with these phones, as Arc user I don't suggest this phone because of very poor quality of the phone. You maybe extra careful with your phone but you won't avoid housing crack, scratched screen and body damages. Housing crack appears on almost all Xperia Arc phones, as for screen I would say, its very bright and high quality but, it is not gorilla glass, and you can scratch it by mistake for example when cleaning, as I did. As for body I would say that design is very sexy but you will notice small dots around the screen, and on the back panel, paint gets peeled. My advice, hold the phone in vacuum or wait for Xperia S!
MAX--K said:
My screen has a broken line on the left side. It has been always carried in a leather holder.
Try to play GTA3 with the arc.
It is a good phone but it is (a bit) outdated.
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Ah, so you need an enhanced durability screen because you are a passionate GTA3 player... Ok, got it!
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I still prefer the thinner look of the arc...
(is that a racoon above me ??? !!!)
giorgobiani554 said:
Please don't buy neither Arc nor Arc S, you will face some very depressing problems with these phones, as Arc user I don't suggest this phone because of very poor quality of the phone. You maybe extra careful with your phone but you won't avoid housing crack, scratched screen and body damages. Housing crack appears on almost all Xperia Arc phones, as for screen I would say, its very bright and high quality but, it is not gorilla glass, and you can scratch it by mistake for example when cleaning, as I did. As for body I would say that design is very sexy but you will notice small dots around the screen, and on the back panel, paint gets peeled. My advice, hold the phone in vacuum or wait for Xperia S!
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Remove the shutter proof thing.
Did it 3 months ago and no scratches!
@ OP:
If you want it, get it now!
By the end of the year it will be totally outdated, well, it is already somehow.
Looking forward to the Galaxy S III or a Sony with Snapdragon S4 as the Arc gets too slow after a few days of uptime
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Great phone!
This phone is great! In poland he cost 1300 PLN, this is not too big price for that phone. He have great camera (720p Video [i record a video with friends and that camera have really good quality, better than both normal cameras]).
I did, I removed but as I said scratched with cleaning cloth
giorgobiani554 said:
Please don't buy neither Arc nor Arc S, you will face some very depressing problems with these phones, as Arc user I don't suggest this phone because of very poor quality of the phone. You maybe extra careful with your phone but you won't avoid housing crack, scratched screen and body damages. Housing crack appears on almost all Xperia Arc phones, as for screen I would say, its very bright and high quality but, it is not gorilla glass, and you can scratch it by mistake for example when cleaning, as I did. As for body I would say that design is very sexy but you will notice small dots around the screen, and on the back panel, paint gets peeled. My advice, hold the phone in vacuum or wait for Xperia S!
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Really? I didnt know...cause i have dropoed my arc so.many times...i have slept over it, i aint using a screen protector, still the screen is fine! Its quite durable mate! The only problem is..it gets really slow sometimes! So even i wouldn't suggest to purchase arc. But i still love it <3:-D
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well i am actually of buying this phone cause of the relatively cheap price...i just got my ace just a month ago but seeing the arc's cheap price i just can't resist to buy it...and by the end of the year i think arc s will be below RM1000 by then it's a sure buy ..i cant afford high end phones ( expensive ones at least ) like S2 ( it's too common!! ) , sensation etc ...
If I were you, I would buy LG Optimus 2X instead. It has Tegra 2 chipset and a dual-core processor. That makes it much better phone. Cons are it doesn't have as good camera, and the screen is a bit smaller(4.2 > 4.0).
Here in Switzerland it is even cheaper.
I've my arc s for close to 5 months and I do not regret it. It's camera is one of the best among the smart phones for the price of it. When my friend who own the iPhone 4 took the same night scene with my arc, the arc's capture the scene very well, not too bright or too dark -- like what the iPhone does.
Responsiveness is reasonably fast even though it's not rooted. Depending on how you handle the phone, mine is still scratch-free and beautiful. No cracks. The factory screen does trap specks of dust quite easily, but this can be avoided if you apply another matte filter over it.
The phone is light and still able to fit into my pocket despite it's 4+ inch screen. The big screen makes it comfortable to browse webs, watch videos and play games.
What I find a nuisance in the arc is the small internal memory capacity, which means you'll have to be selective in the apps you store in the phone.
Definitely worth buying & keeping if you're a light to medium-usage user.
Good luck in your choice!
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Hey this question mostly guess for the people that have had their phone since launch Has it been worth the money? I was wondering how do u like it? and Is the battery as terrible as every YouTuber makes it seem? I just ordered and I'm so excited
Yes it's worth it!
Biggest downer for me is no e-sim.
Battery life is fine.
And most importantly the camera is FAR better than youtube reviewers are saying.
Again in my experience.
I got it a few days before launch day and have loved it every day since. The big screen is totally worth it! I almost never use the outer screen, just occasionally for things like telling the med reminder app I took my med if my phone is already folded, or camera preview so I can take a more quality selfie with the back cameras (phone open), etc. Battery life is good for me. Speed and storage (larger version) are great, screen quality (on natural not vivid) is great, etc. The T-mobile connection issues suck and I hope they are fixed soon, but not all T-mobile customers have the issue (my friend in another state doesn't). But, the temporary fix helps - I just need them to fix it so it can roam so I'm not worried when traveling anywhere. Finding a good case isn't fun, though. I like the one I have now, but I don't think it would protect it very much from a drop/fall.
I've had it since launch..............believe it or not, I use the outer screen more than the inner one. I have taken it on vacation a couple of times. The most recent trip was to Hawaii back in December. Just before we left, I found a case that had a built-in kickstand and actually added more bulk to the phone than I realized..........well, that made the device cumbersome carrying it around on hikes and to the beach. Sometimes, depending on what shorts I was wearing, I would carry the phone in my left hand while walking around Waikiki just so it wouldn't "weigh" me down. I went back to the slimmer case after I got home. Phone has been out since August, and haven't seen anybody else with the same phone. I thought I would on vacation, but trips to busy airports, shopping malls, etc...........didn't see another person with the ZFold. I know it's expensive but you see big iphones everywhere and those aren't cheap either. I do miss the width of my Note-10+ instead of this slimmer one. Was tempted to do the trade-in for the Galaxy S22 Ultra, but will probably wait to see if the ZFold4 is any better and might upgrade to that. Only problem is, the trade-in value of the ZFold3 will drop by then. I hear the next Fold will have the S-pen and a 5000mah battery, not sure if that is enough to upgrade. Currently, you can get $900 trade-in through Samsung, T-Mobile chat person said I can get $1000 through them..............but will probably hold on to mine for now. I don't do any multiple apps tasks, but probably should try to do more to maximize its use and justify why I got it. The 5G on it, for the most part, isn't great. I was getting the 5G UC symbol a couple of weeks ago and not anymore. There was a software update last week and I think it was a T-mobile update to get rid of that symbol, didn't include the Feb security patch. Currently with the Speedtest app, getting 20.9 download, and 6.57 upload. It was way better than that prior to the update.............thanks T-mobile!
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I got it a few days before launch day and have loved it every day since. The big screen is totally worth it! I almost never use the outer screen, just occasionally for things like telling the med reminder app I took my med if my phone is already folded, or camera preview so I can take a more quality selfie with the back cameras (phone open), etc. Battery life is good for me. Speed and storage (larger version) are great, screen quality (on natural not vivid) is great, etc. The T-mobile connection issues suck and I hope they are fixed soon, but not all T-mobile customers have the issue (my friend in another state doesn't). But, the temporary fix helps - I just need them to fix it so it can roam so I'm not worried when traveling anywhere. Finding a good case isn't fun, though. I like the one I have now, but I don't think it would protect it very much from a drop/fall.
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I need to shut up, as I picked up my phone today and it jumped out of my hands. I tried to catch it, but couldn't quite get it as it bounced off my fingers and onto the hardwood floor inner screen face-down. I thought it was a goner when I picked it up and the touch sensors were not working on the inner screen (tried to get to the notification I needed to respond to as I took my med), but I turned the screen off and back on again and it was working fine again. Tested most of the diagnostics in the Samsung Members app and everything was fine. Phew!
The front screen side of the case did slide off a bit in the fall, but it didn't break and slid back on when I picked it up. I do use double-sided tape so it doesn't slide every time I open the phone (don't want to scratch the front screen), but it wasn't enough for the fall.
ButterflyFlutterflyMyOhMy said:
I need to shut up, as I picked up my phone today and it jumped out of my hands. I tried to catch it, but couldn't quite get it as it bounced off my fingers and onto the hardwood floor inner screen face-down. I thought it was a goner when I picked it up and the touch sensors were not working on the inner screen (tried to get to the notification I needed to respond to as I took my med), but I turned the screen off and back on again and it was working fine again. Tested most of the diagnostics in the Samsung Members app and everything was fine. Phew!
The front screen side of the case did slide off a bit in the fall, but it didn't break and slid back on when I picked it up. I do use double-sided tape so it doesn't slide every time I open the phone (don't want to scratch the front screen), but it wasn't enough for the fall.
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Nice to hear that it didn't break. I think I dropped mine (folded) about a month or two after I got it and nothing happened, case protected it.....seems to be very durable device.
For me personally. Its worthed it. I upgraded from my 1 year old iPhone 12 Pro Max. Now i can freely buy accessories without worrying that it wouldn't work(because not all accessories are MFI certified in Indonesia).
And not to forget that the Z Fold 3 when closed is not that wide, thus making it easier for 1 handed use.
Yes and no chance to change it!!!
I have it since the launch. I have also a Iphone 13 pro. I have tried meanwhile s21 and Pixel 6 and Mi11 Ultra. So now a couple of months of using I can only say: Once Fold and forever Fold. Yes it's heavy and bulky. But Yes is the only one TABLET that is good for one hand operation and phone calls and can you carry in pants pocket. And the camera is not super duper but is top, and the battery (SOC Snapdragon) is far better than any other Exynos on the market and on the planet.
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Nice to hear that it didn't break. I think I dropped mine (folded) about a month or two after I got it and nothing happened, case protected it.....seems to be very durable device.
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So am I! I'll be paying for this phone for the next 2.5 years, so it needs to stay in one piece for a long time to come. My previous phone I had for 5-6 years, but of all it wasn't a folding phone. A friend of mine dropped his Fold 3 on tile and had to get a new front screen protector, but it otherwise survived the fall.
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Yes and no chance to change it!!!
I have it since the launch. I have also a Iphone 13 pro. I have tried meanwhile s21 and Pixel 6 and Mi11 Ultra. So now a couple of months of using I can only say: Once Fold and forever Fold. Yes it's heavy and bulky. But Yes is the only one TABLET that is good for one hand operation and phone calls and can you carry in pants pocket. And the camera is not super duper but is top, and the battery (SOC Snapdragon) is far better than any other Exynos on the market and on the planet.
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I actually like the bulk of the phone when closed because it makes it easier to hold and carry without dropping it (when I dropped it, it was open to the inner screen), and I'm saying this as a woman with small hands (medium glove size).
Took a look at the fold3 in an at&t store the other day. Looks like they have the first generation bugs squished. By the time I'm ready to buy a new one, I'll probably get the fold 4 or 5.
Love the phone. Love it so much I have a second as a backup in case this one breaks (truth!). I love the ability to use the front screen one handed. I love having that big inner screen when multitasking or reviewing/editing large documents. The only thing I also wish I had was a zoom/macro lens. It doesn't even have to be a nice one, just a passable one. But I don't take many pictures so I usually let that slide.
I've had mine since October 2021 and it's been one of the most enjoyable experiences I've had with a gadget. The display is amazing, it's fast, camera is decent enough, I love tablet mode, like really, really love it. I definitely can't wait for the next generation of foldables because it's just going to get better. It's definitely worth buying now however, if your still having doubts.
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Love the phone. Love it so much I have a second as a backup in case this one breaks (truth!). I love the ability to use the front screen one handed. I love having that big inner screen when multitasking or reviewing/editing large documents. The only thing I also wish I had was a zoom/macro lens. It doesn't even have to be a nice one, just a passable one. But I don't take many pictures so I usually let that slide.
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I bought the Oppo Find N (foldable) as my backup. It's actually a really awesome phone, with features and design choices that I find better than my Z Fold 3. One thing is it's size, it's fantastic, definitely the better choice on Oppo's side to choose such a wide design. It's even better when you use it in tablet mode as it's aspect ratio is 16:9, which means more apps support it better.
for me i like having the 2 phone factor one big one small, so I am never really bored looking and using it. I find when I am home and chilled i use the big screen more but when i am out and about the small screen, If only they can cut away some of the weight it would be perfect.
It’s just an incredible experience. I have been a loyal Note fan since the first Note, but after owning the Fold 3 I can safely tell you that I won’t go back to a slab phone, even to a Note
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It’s just an incredible experience. I have been a loyal Note fan since the first Note, but after owning the Fold 3 I can safely tell you that I won’t go back to a slab phone, even to a Note
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Same here !
I tried the S22 Ultra @ Bestbuy , it's really a nice phone , but .. it can't convert into a minitablet so .. nah !
Im going for the next generation (Fold4)
pvillasuso said:
Same here !
I tried the S22 Ultra @ Bestbuy , it's really a nice phone , but .. it can't convert into a minitablet so .. nah !
Im going for the next generation (Fold4)
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I've had a z Fold 3 since the 1st month it came out. Great phone but I ended up pre-ordering the S22 Ultra just to test the waters. Been a note fan since the early days. Just received the S22 ultra this week and it's also a great phone. The integrated s pen and bigger battery has definitely tipped the scales in favor of the S22 ultra so I'll be returning the Fold. I will miss that huge screen though!
Had the phone since february, dropped it once and although the front body dented a little bit, the phone is still working well. Been using the bigger screen for media and the smaller screen for calls and short messages. IDK why some doesn't have e-sim but mine does.
I've had the Fold 3 for around a month now, as I had to replace my Note 9 N960N. I can honestly say that it is the best purchase I have made this year. It is such a good device, I can use it for everything from gaming to media consumption for work. It is truly a very versatile device.
The fact that you can use it as a normal phone and open it up to a tablet for a more completely experience blows my mind every time I use it.