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This may be a somewhat silly question, but I have a Fuze and am new to playing with Android. Basically threw on the 2.1 bundle, did the 31.5.10 System Update and grabbed htc-msm-linux-20100606_150546-package.tar. All of these things fixed initial issues:
1. With the 2.1 bundle only, wouldn't boot. Stuck on the moving "X" screen (boot?)
2. System update got it booting. Woohoo! However, shutdown doesn't work; hangs on power down. Also, got a call while in sleep and it woke up the screen - I answered the call and it went dark again; couldn't re-wake the screen up.
3. Last update fixed the screen dark issue.
Now that I'm through that, I'm having an issue with Marketplace and I don't know what to search for on this, so bear with me. Basically, when I search for tikl I get no hits. I only get 4 hits for "push to talk". On my friend's Moto droid, he gets the official result for "tikl" as well as more items for "push to talk".
Being new to Android, is this stupid user error, or are there differences in the Marketplace for different devices?
mlacomb said:
Being new to Android, is this stupid user error, or are there differences in the Marketplace for different devices?
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This definitely applies. I know if you adjust the resolution that Android is running at it changes what is in the market. Not all Android devices are created equal. Screen size differences, different builds, etc have effects on what is shown in the market.
arrrghhh said:
This definitely applies. I know if you adjust the resolution that Android is running at it changes what is in the market. Not all Android devices are created equal. Screen size differences, different builds, etc have effects on what is shown in the market.
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From what I'm reading, there are others having issues "seeing" this application as well, so I don't feel so bad.
My only other ordeal now is the shutdown. The device still doesn't power off fully - does the little spinny "shutting down" animation; however after about 30 seconds it locks up (no more spin). Waited 5 minutes and had to reset.
Now - every time I reset, I go back to WM. No biggie there, usually when I power the device down it is to get back into WM. However, launching Android again will always run a fsck on the device and plop a 4k file in the root directory. I understand the "why" behind this (the file), but can anyone else tell me why it's hanging on shutdown or have a quick solution?
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My only other ordeal now is the shutdown. The device still doesn't power off fully - does the little spinny "shutting down" animation; however after about 30 seconds it locks up (no more spin). Waited 5 minutes and had to reset.
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It's not working yet. WELL documented issue. Shutdown doesn't work, I think in the newer builds it just resets/reboots the device similar to a soft reset.
I'm searching for Skype and It doesn't appear in the Market Place.
I guess is only available for Verizon phones or some cell operators
Does exist something like cab files in Windows Phone for Android or better for XDAndroid?
PS: Sorry my bad English!
jrodriguezs said:
I'm searching for Skype and It doesn't appear in the Market Place.
I guess is only available for Verizon phones or some cell operators
Does exist something like cab files in Windows Phone for Android or better for XDAndroid?
PS: Sorry my bad English!
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First, your English is fine. Second, the equivalent of cabs in Android are called apk files. Third, the only skype that I know of for Android is Skype Light link and apparently it sucks. I would try Fring instead.
Besides the C&P and faster apps, there is virtually no other changes with NoDo...
i have no idea what MS are talking about regarding bluetooth, i see no difference before and now, still crappy sound. The same with camera settings (better stability switching from photo to video???).
I guess the most important thing is the stability of the system right now.
Ah well, time to wait for mango
Market works much better now.
So you haven't actually launched a game, or an app at all yet? Not gone into the Marketplace yet? Marketplace used to be a nightmare, and you needed third party search apps to actually look around...now it is ... SO SMOOTH :'')
And apps launch noticeably faster, and app switching (with back button) as well as apps running after screen lock/unlock are much quicker to load.
There are definitely other unnoticed bug fixes as well. Also, WiFi stores more profiles (still won't allow manual network config though), and some changes to About page in settings...
Overall it is a minor update.
yes i mentioned besides the stability and faster apps update, the bluetooth and camera updates were not significant (since MS stated that on their update page so i was expecting at least a little bit of improvement from there.
I was really hoping to start using my bluetooth headset with my Mozart... guess ill have to wait longer then.
toothfish said:
I was really hoping to start using my bluetooth headset with my Mozart... guess ill have to wait longer then.
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What's the problem with your bluetooth headset?
I'm using mine since November without issues, no use for me to improve anything with NoDo.
Now that M$ have put Cut/copy and paste into WP7 can anyone please check and see if you can move calendar entries around like we used to be able to do in Windows Mbile?
I just want to be able to (both) copy or cut and paste a calendar entry to another day. Not the text within an entry, but the whole entry. In my work I usually need to go to a customer's house two or three times. I need to be able to cut or copy an entry and move it. I'm currently stuck on WM6.5 because of this.
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Now that M$ have put Cut/copy and paste into WP7 can anyone please check and see if you can move calendar entries around like we used to be able to do in Windows Mbile?
I just want to be able to (both) copy or cut and paste a calendar entry to another day. Not the text within an entry, but the whole entry. In my work I usually need to go to a customer's house two or three times. I need to be able to cut or copy an entry and move it. I'm currently stuck on WM6.5 because of this.
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in short no. Its not exactly a priority feature. Wouldn't be shocked if it never made it.
Far out...thanks. That screws me over in a big way. I literally have no alternative other than carrying a laptop around and moving calendar entries around in Outlook.
Removing this (standard WM feature) makes no sense to me.
mister gun said:
Far out...thanks. That screws me over in a big way. I literally have no alternative other than carrying a laptop around and moving calendar entries around in Outlook.
Removing this (standard WM feature) makes no sense to me.
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It was never a matter of removal, WP7 was built from the ground up as an independent OS. Windows Mobile had a ton of functions that WP7 doesn't because for the most part they were completely unnecessary and just bogged down an already fairly laggy OS. I mean honestly, how many times a day do you have to rearrange a number of calendar appointments? I can't see how it could be enough to lug around a laptop everywhere you go...
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in short no. Its not exactly a priority feature. Wouldn't be shocked if it never made it.
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Perhaps not a priority feature as such, but the thing is - had they implemented CnP correctly we would have been able to copy/cut images, photos, calendar entries et all instead of just plain text.
OS support is already there, what is missing is high-level support in their first-party "apps" and APIs.
They [Microsoft] said that CnP was always on the roadmap for WP7 but pulled from RTM as it wasn't polished enough. IMO what they did was simply to bundle their existing CnP code with some bugfixes and performance tweaks in order to deliver an update in January (which was subsequentially moved to late March). I would be very surprised if there isn't a more polished implementation in WP7.5.
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WP7 was built from the ground up as an independent OS
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This is where the PR and marketing people lied to you. WP7 is built on the same old Windows CE as WM6.5 (more or less). The OS has been around for a decade in one form or another. WP7 is basically a new GUI.
I would not be surprised to see a convergance of Windows CE and Windows 8 in the future - once Windows proper can run on Arm I see no reason to keep on top of two different codebases. WP8 will, IMO, be running with Windows 8 under the hood.
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Perhaps not a priority feature as such, but the thing is - had they implemented CnP correctly we would have been able to copy/cut images, photos, calendar entries et all instead of just plain text.
OS support is already there, what is missing is high-level support in their first-party "apps" and APIs.
They [Microsoft] said that CnP was always on the roadmap for WP7 but pulled from RTM as it wasn't polished enough. IMO what they did was simply to bundle their existing CnP code with some bugfixes and performance tweaks in order to deliver an update in January (which was subsequentially moved to late March). I would be very surprised if there isn't a more polished implementation in WP7.5.
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how do you know its there in the OS??? This is not an upgrade from 6.5, its a whole new OS.
Do any other OS's offer this feature?
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how do you know its there in the OS??? This is not an upgrade from 6.5, its a whole new OS.
Do any other OS's offer this feature?
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Read my edited post
But in short, I know OS support is there because I can copy pretty much any object into the buffer using native code.
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What's the problem with your bluetooth headset?
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The problems with bluetooth headsets;
1. Random dropouts when listening to music
2. Occasionally the phone drops the connection to the headset entirely and you have to force a disconnect / reconnect manually
3. Headset button longpress does not start voice control
4. Headset microphone cannot be used for voice control
5. Videos do not output their sound to the headset
6. Because of (5), games with video segments cannot be played using a BT headset unless you want to periodically blast people nearby when the videos play
There you go
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The problems with bluetooth headsets;
1. Random dropouts when listening to music
2. Occasionally the phone drops the connection to the headset entirely and you have to force a disconnect / reconnect manually
3. Headset button longpress does not start voice control
4. Headset microphone cannot be used for voice control
5. Videos do not output their sound to the headset
6. Because of (5), games with video segments cannot be played using a BT headset unless you want to periodically blast people nearby when the videos play
There you go
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AMEN! This was the main thing I was hoping would be fixed in NODO. I hope a small incremental update will fix this before MANGO...
With my Blueant Q2 the sound has noticeably improved. I've never had any issues with the headset as I always carry my phone in my right pocket, and wear my headset on my right ear... Just out of habit, I'm right handed. However, if I were laying down with the phone on my left, at times I would hear static. That appears to be gone in the 4 or so hours I've been using it now. Other issues with the headset are the headsets issue, I assume Blueant will improve it with their much needed firmware update...
Jim Coleman said:
The problems with bluetooth headsets;
1. Random dropouts when listening to music
2. Occasionally the phone drops the connection to the headset entirely and you have to force a disconnect / reconnect manually
3. Headset button longpress does not start voice control
4. Headset microphone cannot be used for voice control
5. Videos do not output their sound to the headset
6. Because of (5), games with video segments cannot be played using a BT headset unless you want to periodically blast people nearby when the videos play
There you go
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1. Never happened to me.
2. ^
3 & 4. I can use the provided features just fine, the problems you are implying aren't bluetooth problems, but search function limitations...
5 & 6. Haven't tried.
I also think C&P in integrated so much more nicely than I would have expected. For instance, if you go into a contact's information, and hold down on their phone number, the option to copy it pops up. That is a feature I personally never saw demoed and I am very happy it has been included, it definitely makes up for the lack of an ability to paste contact cards. The whole implementation is also much smoother than I expected, and also looks much 'prettier' in person than it did in videos.
The apps are smoother, not only in their load times, but also in their pivot controls. I kept hearing this had been altered in this update, and a few apps have confirmed this for me, with the exception of the horribly laggy Board Express Pro. The games I play the most to kill time (Spades, Hearts, etc) load much, much quicker. The OS is definitely smoother, and it's a big plus on the HTC devices that they unexcusably decided to use SD cards on.
I don't really need to speak about the market, as most people have beaten it to death already, but it's much smoother. No longer opening an entry and waiting a day for it to load the information. Also, when downloading an app, the whole process is faster and smoother, aside from the download which is connection dependent obviously. Going through the app list, and pages is a pleasure now, no longer a hassle, though I never really experienced the crash that others had so often. The section specific search is also a huge plus, no more music entries when I'm looking for apps, love that inclusion.
Settings have also been adjusted, but most noticeably, especially probably more for us on this forum who understand security is the inclusion of the MAC address in the about screen. I had to jump through hoops to set up my phone on my home network just because this wasn't listed. Also, it appears my network connection is more stable now. At times in the past, when I would wake the phone from sleep, I would have to wait a good 2 minutes for it to reconnect to a network, now it's almost instant, every time so far.
Camera appears to load slighty faster, and at least for me, it has also started focused already, rather than having to focus. It also seems to be smoother, transitioning through the settings and such. I, for one, am glad the settings don't save, and agree this is a 'feature' - those of you who complain about the video settings not being saved (HD settings) have to understand how much more space that consumes, and the average user would have no idea. With the exclusion of swappable storage, I think that's a BIG plus... Though, they should have some out of norm way to force it, just to make users happy.
Sorry for the long post, just wanted to be specific. I'm sure I'll find more goodies as I play with the phone more, and I'll try to post them as I go along. I'm very pleased with this update, especially considering how 'minor' it is.
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3 & 4. I can use the provided features just fine, the problems you are implying aren't bluetooth problems, but search function limitations...
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I too can use the voice control fine, with a long press of the WINDOWS button and not havin a bluetooth headset connected.
But with a bluetooth headset connected, the longpress of the headset doesn't start voice control as you would expect. However you can longpress the WINDOWS button still, and though that starts the voice control software, because it's trying to use the microphone in the bluetooth headset, and that doesn't seem to work, you cannot issue any voice commands. It wouldn't be so bad if it didn't disable the microphone in the phone itself.
Basically, if you use a bluetooth headset, you cannot use voice commands, but if you disconnect your headset, you can.
This is not a "Search function limitation", I'm not talking about search, I'm talking about voice commands.
Cheers
amtrakcn said:
Market works much better now.
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I do not see any difference.
arturobandini said:
I do not see any difference.
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Market hasn't crashed for me yet... thats a huge difference
mister gun said:
Now that M$ have put Cut/copy and paste into WP7 can anyone please check and see if you can move calendar entries around like we used to be able to do in Windows Mbile?
I just want to be able to (both) copy or cut and paste a calendar entry to another day. Not the text within an entry, but the whole entry. In my work I usually need to go to a customer's house two or three times. I need to be able to cut or copy an entry and move it. I'm currently stuck on WM6.5 because of this.
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Actually, you can open the entry and edit it, changing the hour or/and day of event. Then it automatically moves to correct date.
For Nodo
Not having Marketplace freeze on me every other time I browse on it (requiring a reboot) is NIGHT and DAY!
Much, much faster....
Just a heads up, I did a hard reset after NoDo forced-update, b/c I had lost 3rd Party Live Tile functionality, and I believe that it runs even smoother after the clean-up. Plus, as soon as I synced w/ Zune, it started downloading all the apps I had on it previously...didn't realize that little bonus.
So I am going to try to avoid talking at length about things already mentioned in press reviews unless its super relevant, I really just want to focus on my experience using the Mango beta.
Good things.
It’s freaking fast. Generally moving around the OS is noticeably quicker, not only due the actual speed of transitions, but also I think things have been rearranged so you are able to do what you need to more efficiently. Things are just organized better, e.g. search in the apps list.
Visual voicemail is simple and works (after a quick call to my carrier to turn it on from their end.) It looks like the screen where you choose ringtones with the play button on the left.
The improvements to the People hub are awesome. Groups works great, although I’d like to be able to have more than 20 people per group, and I’d like to be able to rearrange the order they are in. But otherwise, it’s really great. A contacts tile now shows when you have a new message/voicemail/email from them.
The improvements to messaging are also great. Messages you send are now a shade darker or lighter than messages from someone. After attempting to enable Facebook chat a dozen times it finally worked (something I’m assuming will be fixed by release) and chatting works well, switching chat mediums on the fly works better in actual practice than watching someone else do it. Since I don’t really have Windows Live contacts I’m not sure if that part of chat is working.
My one critique is that (like the people hub) I don’t understand why they don’t open the messaging hub to more 3rd party applications. If something like IM+ can connect to all these different chat services, why not allow the OS to? Also, why can’t we still send video?
E-mail works exactly as promised. Linked inboxes and threaded conversations.
Generally the UI has been made more consistent. Marketplace searches now yield a pivot menu to switch between music and apps and podcasts. The phone buttons are larger and more metro-y. The music controls are always in the same place whether in the music player, lock screen, or volume drop down (which itself now has been updated, shows volume as 20/30 instead of little bars.) You can have artist art fade in on the lock screen while listening to music which is pretty cool too.
Bad things/things needing improvement.
When you press the search button, now it ALWAYS brings up Bing and there’s a delay. This is how it should have been from day one, but since it isn’t, I’m still getting used to the fact that I can’t use it to search marketplace or email or any other place where previously the search button took you to an in app search. Also, whenever you do press the search hard button the phone temporarily freezes for a millisecond and music playing skips. Weird but noticeable if you listen to music a lot – but almost certainly a beta issue.
Multi-tasking. It isn’t multitasking. It’s the same as Windows Phone has always been since day one – you can back through previously opened apps. The difference is now you can see more than one at a time. This wouldn’t be so bad if they fixed the transitions, but as of now, it’s honestly pretty bad. You hold back (for a very short amount of time, I did it by accident a lot) and it zooms out (even if nothing else is in the “list” so to speak, I would prefer it does nothing and stays on start screen in this scenario) and you see the “open” (or “dehydrated”) apps, and can pan over to them to click into them. But once you do, they almost 100% of the time go to a different screen than the one you saw in the preview, and after loading look more like the preview. If the preview image matched what you saw when you clicked into the app, this would be an almost flawless illusion of multitasking, but as of now it’s just kind of messy.
Even with the start screen- animated live tiles are not in the same position in the preview as when you click the app, so it becomes visibly obvious that you aren’t actually seeing a live preview. I am really hoping that this is a beta issue, because the idea is good, just the execution is messy. In regard to background apps or audio, I haven’t been able to test this as I can’t find any apps that support it yet.
Internet Explorer 9 Mobile. This has probably been my biggest disappointment. While it most certainly is faster/better than IE now on Windows Phone, the HTML 5 execution doesn’t seem anywhere near as impressive as Microsoft makes it seem. If you go to the MS HTML 5 mobile demos (like the fish and speed reader) they work great… but go to an HTML 5 site, and it barely works, or works really really slowly (like Flash on Android.) Even simple things, like Dragon Age Legends HTML5 mobile version, don’t work at all in some cases. If HTML5 is the industry answer to “why no Flash?” it needs to work better. Every single HTML 5 site I went to either didn’t work, or worked poorly. Not acceptable. Again, I’m hoping this is a beta issue only, and that it’s resolved by release.
Bing navigation. It’s serviceable but just barely. The fact that the map updates, but not the directions, is bizarre. So if you are driving to a destination, the map rotates and moves along with you, but to actually hear what you need to do next, you need to tap the direction. Again, hoping this is a very early version.
Connection to hidden Wifi doesn’t seem to be possible even though the WP devs said it was. And I guess you can use custom ringtones but through a workaround using the Zune software. Also, Wifi sync doesn’t work
So, generally, the Mango beta shows some promise, but still needs a lot of work. I’ll be using it on my main phone for at least a few weeks, then I’ll decide if I want to go back for the time being. For the record, I have an App Hub account and am running Mango legitimately on a developer unlocked T-Mobile USA HD7 which I hard reset after the update. I’ve had a few apps that won’t start, or crash a lot since updating.
This is not One X specific as had same issue on all android phones I tested.
As I never had any for longer never looked to fix it. HD2 android was for fun and Motorola defy as GPS only.
1. Is there a way to make the phone not interrupt music each time it plays notification for e-mail or any other event, more importantly is it possible to make it not stop music while playing GPS instructions?
2. Can I set the GPS to start automatically with Co-Pilot or Google navigation and shut off when I switch off the apps?
3. Is it possible to make the co-pilot work in background and after screen is turned off (still navigate and give voice directions)?
4. Is there a normal way of deleting e-mails in gmail account. If I select e-mails and click delete it downloads them again from server at next update over and over again. The only way I found how to delete it is to select the offending e-mails, move them to thrash folder then run an update. Then delete them. What gives? BTW for e-mail I only use HTC mail app.
5. Can I set the browser to always open websites in full desktop view? Even if I have desktop view option ticked some websites first open in mobile view. I then have to un-tick desktop view so it reloads and tick it again so it reloads to desktop view.
6. Is there an app that will allow me to assign long press key functions to 3 buttons at the bottom?
7. Finally is there an app that will switch off volume buttons when screen is off, always. It is the same issue as it was on HD2 and HD7 however there buttons needed some force to operate on One X a small pressure will operate volume bar. Just winding the headphone wire loosely around phone activates volume buttons.
My device is rooted and is a Tegra 3 device.
Finally a proper One X question is there a list of all pre-installed apps in the stock One X Europe device, description what they do and if it is safe to remove them?
Hey there! I Can sortoff help with a couple of these.
1. Ive experimented with this myself, and i have found that putting the phone to vibrate/silent stops the interruption nearly all the time, at worst it makes the song miss a second.
And for bloatware on your device, most is safe to remove, things such as 7digital, i dont know how to delete them, but you can disable them to make your phone run smoother.
Settings>Apps>All> Find one and tap it> uninstall
If it may cause a disturbance you get a safety warning and a caution about confirming hope this helped alittle.
JDBurnie, thx. I know how to remove bloat ware just root your device. I removed 7 digital, soundhog, few htc services I will never use and all reporting tools. I just know there is more there as there are apks there I have no idea what they link to. Like Coca service? It does not provide free coca-cola or white snow
Re point one will test, it is not a solution but workaround only sadly.
Okay man, no problem and yeh I was looking to do that myself, I've tried alot of roots but I can't seem to root my phone I follow instructions religiously and it doesn't seem to work... But disabling them will work for me good luck!
Sent from my HTC One X using XDA
I used the method where you unlock bootloader via HTCdev.com. Especially that now you can do OTA with it quite easy. Bit of script edit on the phone and then use recovery to load it.
So my buddy still has his Galaxy S3 and yesterday things took a turn for the worst and now the display is destroyed. He says it just shows green but it still plays sounds and vibrates when he gets a call or any notifications. So he wants to get his pictures off of his phone but he said he hid a few of them by creating a new album, placing the pictures in the album, and pressing the hide button. Where would these pictures be stored at and is there anyway to make them viewable again? I don't have the phone with me right now and he can't give it to me because we live fairly far away so I just have to tell him what to do even though he is not very tech savvy.
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So my buddy still has his Galaxy S3 and yesterday things took a turn for the worst and now the display is destroyed. He says it just shows green but it still plays sounds and vibrates when he gets a call or any notifications. So he wants to get his pictures off of his phone but he said he hid a few of them by creating a new album, placing the pictures in the album, and pressing the hide button. Where would these pictures be stored at and is there anyway to make them viewable again? I don't have the phone with me right now and he can't give it to me because we live fairly far away so I just have to tell him what to do even though he is not very tech savvy.
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maybe this could help ,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1994705
"all i can really do , is stay out of my own way and let the will of heaven be done"
zdiddy456 said:
So my buddy still has his Galaxy S3 and yesterday things took a turn for the worst and now the display is destroyed. He says it just shows green but it still plays sounds and vibrates when he gets a call or any notifications. So he wants to get his pictures off of his phone but he said he hid a few of them by creating a new album, placing the pictures in the album, and pressing the hide button. Where would these pictures be stored at and is there anyway to make them viewable again? I don't have the phone with me right now and he can't give it to me because we live fairly far away so I just have to tell him what to do even though he is not very tech savvy.
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Plug it into a computer with USB, and hope he had it set to MTP or PTP and not fast charge because with a busted screen I can't think of any way to change that setting.
Open up a file explorer on the computer and start looking around for the pictures and copy them from the damaged phone to the computer when you find them. I don't know exactly where the pictures will be located, but if the phone was on Jellybean or above it is a pretty safe bet they'll be in a subfolder of /data/media/0. /data/media/0/DCIM is where all the funny cat pictures he took himself will be. /data/media/0/Pictures or /data/media/0/NameOfAppTheyCameFrom could be some other likely candidates for where those files got saved. Just poke around, unless he had a tremendous number of apps installed there should be all that many directories to look through.
I don't think the fact that he hid them with a gallery app will keep them from showing up in a PC file explorer. Hiding them with gallery probably just dropped a .nomedia file in the folder so media scanner skips them or something else along those lines that won't actually hide them from a file manager; unless he did something a little more stealthy/techie to keep them hidden.
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maybe this could help ,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1994705
"all i can really do , is stay out of my own way and let the will of heaven be done"
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That wouldn't work, his phone is not rooted nor does it have USB debugging enabled.