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...my naked N5 slipped from my cold, numb fingers and landed flat but face down on a NYC sidewalk a couple days ago. At first it looked like a "soft landing" but no such luck and now I'm looking at a screen replacement (screen itself OK, but glass cracked all to hell).
So now I'm wondering if this could have been prevented simply by a case and not necessarily a screen protector as well. I've used cases such as an Otterbox Commuter in the past but never dropped any of those phones to the extent this one went down. It seems to me that any case with a slight lip on the front -- as most of them must have -- would be enough since the screen itself would not hit the ground.
From research on this forum and web sites I'm currently favoring the Spigen Thin Armor case but am wondering if a high-quality screen protector would also be worth it. My screen at the time it was damaged really had no scratches at all, so the Gorilla Glass was doing its job. Would one of those tempered glass protectors also provide shatter protection? Or would a decent case by itself be sufficient?
FWIW, I've used thin-film protectors in the past but always found them annoying due to bubbles, making the screen less readable, and/or affecting the touch response.

Even with a case on, if there was a small rock or a jagged edge on the ground that nicks the screen, it would have still been toast anyway. This is regardless of if there was a lip protecting it or not. It all depends on what's on the ground by chance.
A tempered glass protector probably could have saved the screen though, since you said it landed flat on its face. Tempered glass protectors are perfect for impacts that land face down, not so much on edges or sides. You will see most demonstrations of tempered glass done with nails, hammers, drop tests, etc. with the phone being impacted directly on the face. If it impacts from the side, there is a good chance the screen could still break as tempered glass isn't really designed to protect from those types of impacts.
That is where the case with a lip comes in. Those are meant to protect from side and edge impacts. Most drops generally don't land flat like yours, they tend to bounce around on corners first, so the case would absorb most of the impact and not the phone directly.
Your best bet is to both have a tempered glass screen protector (for flat impacts), and a bumper frame or TPU case (for the rest).
I use a Nillkin H+ Tempered Glass screen protector and a bumper frame (back not covered as I put a skin on the back) and I'm pretty much covered for most brain lapse moments.

rochrunner said:
FWIW, I've used thin-film protectors in the past but always found them annoying due to bubbles, making the screen less readable, and/or affecting the touch response.
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Once you learn the hinge method for putting on screen protectors, you won't have air bubbles or dust underneath. You can't even tell my phone has a screen protector on it. Youtube has several videos on how to do it properly.
I refuse to pay big $$$ for glass protectors because you only get one of them, and you either do it right, or throw it away. With plastic protectors, you get several for a few dollars.

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I refuse to pay big $$$ for glass protectors because you only get one of them, and you either do it right, or throw it away. With plastic protectors, you get several for a few dollars.
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That's not true. I applied and removed my Nillkin more then 10 times during the application to get rid of the dust I missed trapped underneath because I suck at applying screen protectors. It reapplied the same every time. All you have to do is make sure you don't firmly press it down and you're fine. This is even after you see the adhesion process occur. It will still peel up. The adhesive takes a few hours to a day (depending on brand) to fully stick/cure.
If a person like me can apply one glass screen protector, anyone else will do it better. One is all you need.
Plastic will only give basic scratch protection and leave a greasy screen after a while. If it takes the same fall his did, the screen would still be done for.

mmmmBACON said:
I use a Nillkin H+ Tempered Glass screen protector and a bumper frame (back not covered as I put a skin on the back) and I'm pretty much covered for most brain lapse moments.
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What bumper frame do you use? I've been looking for one myself for a while now...
Cases protect the actual body of the phone, and maybe the screen if it happens to land flat. But if a rock of some other elevated object hits the screen then it will be done for. And a plastic screen protector will do nothing, that protects against scratches like from sand. A glass one would be the best bet for shatter protection. I've seen a person take a hammer to a screen with a glass screen protector on. The protector was rekt but the phone screen was fine.

Awesomepie85 said:
What bumper frame do you use? I've been looking for one myself for a while now...
Cases protect the actual body of the phone, and maybe the screen if it happens to land flat. But if a rock of some other elevated object hits the screen then it will be done for. And a plastic screen protector will do nothing, that protects against scratches like from sand. A glass one would be the best bet for shatter protection. I've seen a person take a hammer to a screen with a glass screen protector on. The protector was rekt but the phone screen was fine.
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There are 2 that I would probably recommend. I'm currently using a transparent bumper case off of ebay. I did a review here http://forum.xda-developers.com/google-nexus-5/accessories/lucency-transparent-bumper-case-review-t2690108. It is $2.88 shipped. If you do choose this one, I would stick to black. After using them for a while now, the various colours tend to stain easily, but the black doesn't. It is just for light drop protection, but since the main body is a harder plastic, it won't absorb a higher drop like a softer bumper frame, or a TPU case would. I personally like it because it is transparent and you can still see the sides of the phone and the skin through it.
The other is the replica Nexus 4 bumper, for the Nexus 5. Mine is still in the mail so I haven't tried it out yet, but others have bought it and it seems to have gotten pretty good reviews overall. http://forum.xda-developers.com/google-nexus-5/accessories/replica-official-nexus-4-bumper-nexus-5-t2698422. It's a little bit pricier at $12.99 off Amazon, or around $8 - $10 off Aliexpress.

rochrunner said:
...my naked N5 slipped from my cold, numb fingers and landed flat but face down on a NYC sidewalk a couple days ago. At first it looked like a "soft landing" but no such luck and now I'm looking at a screen replacement (screen itself OK, but glass cracked all to hell).
So now I'm wondering if this could have been prevented simply by a case and not necessarily a screen protector as well. I've used cases such as an Otterbox Commuter in the past but never dropped any of those phones to the extent this one went down. It seems to me that any case with a slight lip on the front -- as most of them must have -- would be enough since the screen itself would not hit the ground.
From research on this forum and web sites I'm currently favoring the Spigen Thin Armor case but am wondering if a high-quality screen protector would also be worth it. My screen at the time it was damaged really had no scratches at all, so the Gorilla Glass was doing its job. Would one of those tempered glass protectors also provide shatter protection? Or would a decent case by itself be sufficient?
FWIW, I've used thin-film protectors in the past but always found them annoying due to bubbles, making the screen less readable, and/or affecting the touch response.
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There are many choices for thicker protection cases. Properly applied screen protectors don't have any bubbles.
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Hey! There's a kickstarter project for someone: A case with airbags that deploy when the phone finds itself in free-fall .

Claghorn said:
Hey! There's a kickstarter project for someone: A case with airbags that deploy when the phone finds itself in free-fall .
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Those sly people at Honda have already done it.

Claghorn said:
Hey! There's a kickstarter project for someone: A case with airbags that deploy when the phone finds itself in free-fall .
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I don't think I'd feel comfortable having that in my side pocket close to my family jewels or especially not in my back pocket.
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Those sly people at Honda have already done it.
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Screen replacement already

Well its been a little over a week and had been doing well with no scratches. Been putting it in my pockets and laying it around just everyday normal use. Well today I scratched it pretty good. Had on my rock revival jeans. Most of these jeans have a button right above the pocket opening. Well it slid across that button and scratched it pretty good. I had already bought a tempered glass screen protector off eBay but was going to wait on putting it on. So I peeled off the outer layer. This was surprisingly easy. And I put on the glass protector. I know Motorola advised against this but theirs scratches pretty good. This glass one doesn't scratch. And it does actually feel better. Shatter proof is awesome but scratch proof is important too.

You know u can put a screen protector over the shatterproof film and u wouldn't have that problem

gfrrt said:
Well its been a little over a week and had been doing well with no scratches. Been putting it in my pockets and laying it around just everyday normal use. Well today I scratched it pretty good. Had on my rock revival jeans. Most of these jeans have a button right above the pocket opening. Well it slid across that button and scratched it pretty good. I had already bought a tempered glass screen protector off eBay but was going to wait on putting it on. So I peeled off the outer layer. This was surprisingly easy. And I put on the glass protector. I know Motorola advised against this but theirs scratches pretty good. This glass one doesn't scratch. And it does actually feel better. Shatter proof is awesome but scratch proof is important too.
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Which one did you put on, that you said feels better? Is it thicker, does it fit perfectly?

itanas said:
Which one did you put on, that you said feels better? Is it thicker, does it fit perfectly?
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The one I got does not fit well.
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waterninja21 said:
You know u can put a screen protector over the shatterproof film and u wouldn't have that problem
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Yeah I know. But all the other phones I had were gorilla glass and didn't scratch and I liked that. Never used screen protectors on them. When I put the glass one on top of their outer shield, it was just too thick for me. It seemed like the screen was more sunk in. I knows that may sound like nic picking but I didn't like it.

itanas said:
Which one did you put on, that you said feels better? Is it thicker, does it fit perfectly?
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Found one on eBay and it fits perfectly. Yeah it will shatter but I'm pretty confident the underneath won't if I drop it. All layers are plastic. I'm liking it so far. So to me, I kinda get the best of both worlds. Scratch resistance and shatter proof (underneath that is).

Honestly u just need a basic thin scratch resistance screen protector cause tempered glass isnt really needed with a 4 year screen warranty

The one I found on eBay was like 15.00. It fits really well. It has the cut out for the speakers and covers the rest. It's a little thicker than the original but I use a snap on slim fitting tpu case and it covers all the outer edges nicely.

waterninja21 said:
Honestly u just need a basic thin scratch resistance screen protector cause tempered glass isnt really needed with a 4 year screen warranty
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Yeah but glass feels better.

gfrrt said:
The one I found on eBay was like 15.00. It fits really well. It has the cut out for the speakers and covers the rest. It's a little thicker than the original but I use a snap on slim fitting tpu case and it covers all the outer edges nicely.
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Is this the one you bought? http://www.ebay.com/itm/HARD-TEMPER...658149?hash=item4643d3b325:g:9PUAAOSwl9BWNlgh
How is the fit on the edges and center? Some have commented that there is a slight curve to the screen and the glass doesn't sit down in the center.

feeble11 said:
How is the fit on the edges and center? Some have commented that there is a slight curve to the screen and the glass doesn't sit down in the center.
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I picked up the tempered glass that Verizon sells for the Turbo 2. It is extremely thin and flexible (so it works well with the slight curve), if applied correctly you can barely tell it's on there.

Yeah it worked well at first but now its starting to bubble in middle and on one corner. I'd look for a different one. I just ordered trimaxx 360 clear case. I'm hoping this will work pretty well. It has pretty good reviews. I really don't want to put Verizon's outer shield back on. It scratches way too easily.
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Does Mate 20 X Come with Glass Screen Protector?

Does the mate 20 x come with a glass srceen protector?

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No,my 20x comes with Plastic srceen protector

Ditto - plastic

So you guys recommend I get a glass screen protector? Or just leave the plastic one it already has?
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I would use the plastic until it is no longer usable then switch to temp glass. I still have the plastic and and will keep it that way until it is too damaged.

deloj said:
So you guys recommend I get a glass screen protector? Or just leave the plastic one it already has?
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I'm using the pre-installed screen protector and the official Huawei smart case. Been working great for me.

deloj said:
So you guys recommend I get a glass screen protector? Or just leave the plastic one it already has?
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If you plan the use the pen the plastic will not last much from my experience and it does scratch easy. Also the plastic does not have oleophobic coating and it will gather finger oils fast. On top of that the finger does not glide as smooth on it as it does on glass.

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If you plan the use the pen the plastic will not last much from my experience and it does scratch easy. Also the plastic does not have oleophobic coating and it will gather finger oils fast. On top of that the finger does not glide as smooth on it as it does on glass.
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So I should get a tempered glass protector then.

deloj said:
So I should get a tempered glass protector then.
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It depends on your usage patterns and how picky you are... you can use it as it is for a while and see how it fits you... if you are not happy get a glass for it...
Just make sure it's a good glass, meaning it needs to have rounded edges, oleophobic coating, cover the screen properly but fits fine with the case you are using...

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It depends on your usage patterns and how picky you are... you can use it as it is for a while and see how it fits you... if you are not happy get a glass for it...
Just make sure it's a good glass, meaning it needs to have rounded edges, oleophobic coating, cover the screen properly but fits fine with the case you are using...
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Good advice. Thanks. But when I do decide to get a glass protector for it, what thickness do you recommend I get?
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deloj said:
Good advice. Thanks. But when I do decide to get a glass protector for it, what thickness do you recommend I get?
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Don't expect the glass to protect the screen much in case on an impact giving the big size of the screen... my glass is around 0.2-03mm thick...
Don't get me wrong It's definitely better to have one sheet of glass on it than a sheet of plastic when are talking about impact just don't expect miracles
I've put a glass on it because I am picky:
- the default sheet although is nice to have and protects from scratches but it does not have oleophobic coating so it smudges pretty bad
- when using a pen you need to push harder and the default plastic sheet gets scratched a lot and also gets some deep scratches fast, also the pen does not slide smoothly like it does on a glass
- the feel of smooth glass while scrolling is priceless... finger slides on glass so much better...
- I watch a lot of media on the phone so I hate having scratches on the screen and no matter how carefull you are, you will get scratches... some will be quite deep and will be visible.
- I use the flip case and with a flip case you have a higher chance of some dirt to get caught between the flip and the screen and get scratched
- the screen is flat so a glass screen is cheap (compared to the ones for the curbed screens are are more expensive and with many drawbacks)

I use a Glass Screen Protector from Amazon.
2 Pieces QDADZD Glass Screen Protector 9H for Huawei Mate 20 X. 0,33mm dickness (Inches 0,01299213)
I am very happy with it.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/QDADZD-Protector-Tempered-Bubble-Free-Protective/dp/B07Q3NJ44F
https://www.ebay.ie/itm/QDADZD-Huawei-Mate-20-X-Screen-Protector-Tempered-Glass-Full-Coverage-9H-HD-/223579484620

Cases that work with Whitestone Dome glass

I've been waiting to install my whitestone dome glass until I finally received a full body case. I finally received 2 of the Spigen cases and I come to find out that if I install the whitestone glass then the front part of the case won't go on, on either of my cases. Has anyone found a case that works with the whitestone dome glass.
Just in case you're wondering I have the Spigen Thin Fit design case and the Spigen Ultra hybrid design clear case.

I wouldn't imagine that there would a front case cover that would be compatible with the Whitestone Dome screen protector due to the fact that the screen protector curves. If the case is made to fit over the tempered glass than the plastic around that area would much thinner and weaker. This might be possible if the case is made out of Aramid. Then this is were my mind goes in circles, why didn't Samsung create an Aramid front cover and just the back one only. When I first noticed that the Whitestone screen protector I immediately thought there will be for sure many complaints regarding either "defective" or bad design screen protectors due to the pressure of the front case cover on the screen protector, causing the protector to shift.

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I wouldn't imagine that there would a front case cover that would be compatible with the Whitestone Dome screen protector due to the fact that the screen protector curves. If the case is made to fit over the tempered glass than the plastic around that area would much thinner and weaker. This might be possible if the case is made out of Aramid. Then this is were my mind goes in circles, why didn't Samsung create an Aramid front cover and just the back one only. When I first noticed that the Whitestone screen protector I immediately thought there will be for sure many complaints regarding either "defective" or bad design screen protectors due to the pressure of the front case cover on the screen protector, causing the protector to shift.
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This is what I was worried about. It didn't seem like the whitestone would fit with a front case. So i guess leads to the next question, what will provide better protection, a whitestone glass or a front case. I feel like day to day, the front case will help prevent a lot of scrapes and scratches but when your drop it, i don't know if it will really protect the screen. Decisions decisions. First world problems....

mmafighter077 said:
This is what I was worried about. It didn't seem like the whitestone would fit with a front case. So i guess leads to the next question, what will provide better protection, a whitestone glass or a front case. I feel like day to day, the front case will help prevent a lot of scrapes and scratches but when your drop it, i don't know if it will really protect the screen. Decisions decisions. First world problems....
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So for protection, front case would be the way to go. This wouldn't apply to all case, ie something sharp could still damage the outside screen. If a drop does happen, front case or just case would offer better protection. The downside on most front cases, are the limited ability to swipe down or just touch response around the edges of the screen.

nunyabiziz said:
I wouldn't imagine that there would a front case cover that would be compatible with the Whitestone Dome screen protector due to the fact that the screen protector curves. If the case is made to fit over the tempered glass than the plastic around that area would much thinner and weaker. This might be possible if the case is made out of Aramid. Then this is were my mind goes in circles, why didn't Samsung create an Aramid front cover and just the back one only. When I first noticed that the Whitestone screen protector I immediately thought there will be for sure many complaints regarding either "defective" or bad design screen protectors due to the pressure of the front case cover on the screen protector, causing the protector to shift.
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nunyabiziz said:
So for protection, front case would be the way to go. This wouldn't apply to all case, ie something sharp could still damage the outside screen. If a drop does happen, front case or just case would offer better protection. The downside on most front cases, are the limited ability to swipe down or just touch response around the edges of the screen.
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I found this today. This guy installed both the whitestone glass and the Spigen case at the same time. You just have to deal with the front case being lifted a little. But it's not that bad.
https://youtu.be/p2pL7RvykuY

https://www.reddit.com/r/GalaxyFold/comments/jd4bgg/finally_a_case_that_works_with_whitestone_dome/

chuynh1109 said:
https://www.reddit.com/r/GalaxyFold/comments/jd4bgg/finally_a_case_that_works_with_whitestone_dome/
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This is good to know. Did you purchase it?

mmafighter077 said:
This is good to know. Did you purchase it?
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yeah, that's my thread over on reddit. The ebay seller is great and it's fast shipping too.

Question best case to use with glass screen protector

i want to buy a case but idk the situation. found a fake otterbox like case on amazon but i want to use a glass screen protector or a skinomi screen protecor. any thoughts?
im active ALOT and outside so i need the case to match or exceed my limits. the fake otterbox is the choice but i need glass on the screen and glass on the camera portion. thought about poetic series but idk... would love a case that is life ready with glass screen friendly.

this.guy.lol said:
i want to buy a case but idk the situation. found a fake otterbox like case on amazon but i want to use a glass screen protector or a skinomi screen protecor. any thoughts?
im active ALOT and outside so i need the case to match or exceed my limits. the fake otterbox is the choice but i need glass on the screen and glass on the camera portion. thought about poetic series but idk... would love a case that is life ready with glass screen friendly.
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From my experience, many cases don't fit with the glass screen protector so I always use a film screen protector from Gadgetshieldz which is installed with liquid that provides an extra layer of protection to the display. As the protector has a self-healing feature that heals most of the scratches on it which I like the most about this product. Is that Skinomi a film-like protector?

randylahey786 said:
I always use a film screen protector from Gadgetshieldz
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How ware these and how long do they last - compared to the factory screen protector? Does the corners lift over time?
If I order one, do I need the "Case Fit" version?

I've been using the factory fitted film since I got the phone in June, always have a ringke fusion case, no signs of lifting anywhere. Not sure if it will work with the glass you're talking about

RheinPirat said:
How ware these and how long do they last - compared to the factory screen protector? Does the corners lift over time?
If I order one, do I need the "Case Fit" version?
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The screen protector lasted for about 7-8 months for me and they are good compared to factory protectors because they stick well enough and don't peel off. If you're going to use a back case then the case-fit screen protector is enough because the case would protect the edges.

Thanks. I use the OP carbon bumper case. I will order the case-fit version