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Im already sold on Windows Phone 7 ill be getting one as soon as verizon launches a htc phone with a big screen and keyboard, but i was wondering if i go to download the zune software now will this be the same software compatible with the phones? and is there anything we can do now with our phones or mp3 collection with the software now in preparation? like add album artwork or anything with the zune software? im trying to get use to the software before the phones launch
deadwrong03 said:
Im already sold on Windows Phone 7 ill be getting one as soon as verizon launches a htc phone with a big screen and keyboard, but i was wondering if i go to download the zune software now will this be the same software compatible with the phones? and is there anything we can do now with our phones or mp3 collection with the software now in preparation? like add album artwork or anything with the zune software? im trying to get use to the software before the phones launch
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the current downloadable vers of zune does not support wp7 however zune client will inform you of the new update with wp7 included.. with that said i would go ahead and install it to add all your music, videos and pics it is truly the best music, video client i have ever seen light years ahead of that lame itunes and it does not recopy your music and use up all of your hd space recopying all your music.
Yes, you should definitely install it. It's awesome software with or without Windows Phone.
paperclips said:
Yes, you should definitely install it. It's awesome software with or without Windows Phone.
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Agree with you. It can be a replacement of windows media player. of course, I am using it now, even though i did not own zune device. great performance, quick start up than windows media player, nicer, more functionalities and one most important function which is you can set and add your own media folder to the Zune player.
Scenario: if you placed all your music in the desk top "music folder", you can add this directory into zune and zune will recognise them and add them into your music playlist without create a new database like itunes did.
Give it a try...I'm sure you will like it...
i just downloaded it and its asking for a account in order to play specific content what kind of account do i need to make?
edit: does it matter if i use a aol or hotmail/msn account to register with zune
deadwrong03 said:
i just downloaded it and its asking for a account in order to play specific content what kind of account do i need to make?
edit: does it matter if i use a aol or hotmail/msn account to register with zune
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I didn't experienced this scenario before. however, i think it is doesn't matter you use which account, but it's more convenient if you use hotmail....because both are Microsoft products and there should be a mutual link between them and easy for you to remember the password when you use microsoft's products.
just to update u guys i downloaded it and its AMAZING never had a zune before but this interface is amazing and you can burn cds with this as well i will be using this over windows media player from now on havent tried burning a cd yet.
for those with a zune player are u able to get album art like u can on the desktop version? i wonder if we will be able to get album art with the wp7 version
deadwrong03 said:
just to update u guys i downloaded it and its AMAZING never had a zune before but this interface is amazing and you can burn cds with this as well i will be using this over windows media player from now on havent tried burning a cd yet.
for those with a zune player are u able to get album art like u can on the desktop version? i wonder if we will be able to get album art with the wp7 version
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haha,yea,this player is awesome....love it right?
wow,if WP7 can grab album art like what the desktop version did, it would be perfect...
sylau90 said:
haha,yea,this player is awesome....love it right?
wow,if WP7 can grab album art like what the desktop version did, it would be perfect...
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LOVE IT i've been playing music all day and night lol never did that with windows media player i even played it and fell asleep
I enjoy using the Smart DJ feature in Zune. It is similar to Pandora in some ways. Really looking forward to WP7 I just hope the battery life can handle my music playing.
deadwrong03 said:
LOVE IT i've been playing music all day and night lol never did that with windows media player i even played it and fell asleep
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I was a zuner since 2007 I am happy to say =)
it definitely is 10x better than apple itunes and anything else around at the moment.
sylau90 said:
haha,yea,this player is awesome....love it right?
wow,if WP7 can grab album art like what the desktop version did, it would be perfect...
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WP7 vers of zune will also grab album art and display the artist in the background just like the desktop vers..
rruffman said:
WP7 vers of zune will also grab album art and display the artist in the background just like the desktop vers..
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Wow, really? thats cool...thanks for your information...It would be nice,when using 3G or Wifi to grab album art...without access to PC.
OP I was thinking the same thing, and I did install Zune.
My thoughts;
It looks cool, the interface is 'fresh' and makes iTunes look dated.
But the biggest problem is that I can't seem to managed the actual files and can't 'show in explorer'. That's a real problem for me as I let itunes organise my music so my file structure is a nightmare to actually edit files outside of using itunes to browse. (any tips)
I also find it quite slow, (1.3ghz 2g RAM), which was disappointing. If I had a better PC it might be better.
I think I may stick to iTunes, its not a big deal to sync as a phone is only going to hold ~10g anyway.
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Wow, really? thats cool...thanks for your information...It would be nice,when using 3G or Wifi to grab album art...without access to PC.
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I don't think it will do that (unless you buy something from the Marketplace or use a Zune Pass). But it definitely does pull down all sorts of info like artist bios and other artwork/pictures. It might rely on being properly categorized/labeled first when it's been synced in which the Zune software will take care of for the most part. Also, when you plug your phone into any power, it can hop on your WiFi connection automatically and sync wirelessly.
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Wow, really? thats cool...thanks for your information...It would be nice,when using 3G or Wifi to grab album art...without access to PC.
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I think you mis understood me it will dl it from the web not your desktop (the zune on you phone that is) using what ever internet connection you are using on you phone at the time.
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I don't think it will do that (unless you buy something from the Marketplace or use a Zune Pass). But it definitely does pull down all sorts of info like artist bios and other artwork/pictures. It might rely on being properly categorized/labeled first when it's been synced in which the Zune software will take care of for the most part. Also, when you plug your phone into any power, it can hop on your WiFi connection automatically and sync wirelessly.
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as long as the song have the correct title, album and artist it will get the album art. no zune pass needed. it works just like the desktop vers.
shouldnt there be a zune upgrade sometime this week or on monday since the official launch of windows phone 7 will be takin place monday?
deadwrong03 said:
shouldnt there be a zune upgrade sometime this week or on monday since the official launch of windows phone 7 will be takin place monday?
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Seems like a reasonable assumption, but since there won't actually be any phones available until the end of the month we might have to wait for the new ZUNE software until then.
So, when i go to download my digital copy, i get a choice between iTunes format and windows mediaplayer format. While the iTunes format will work with all sorts of devices (iPods, iPhones, etc.) the windows media format explicitly states it will not work with Zune or Zune devices. wtf...? I was excited to see Inception on my Focus and now I have to go back to my tilt2 and use its media player if i want to watch it on a cellular device?! Does anyone know if there's a way to import either the WMP format or the iTunes format to Zune, so i can actually use my WP7 device for this???
Pretty sure wp7 can play mp4 files, which iirc is a quicktime container (correct me if I'm wrong).
Also WP7 isn't a zunehd. It has zunehd functionality but capabilities are necesarily the same. Should have just gone and downloaded some files and checked before u got it, imo.
Inception isnt that good, anyways
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Sounds like something Warner Bros should address and add WP7 compatibility. Dont see it happening though.
efjay said:
Sounds like something Warner Bros should address and add WP7 compatibility. Dont see it happening though.
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According to WmPoweruser today's article
WP7 doesn't see MP4.
I'm pretty sure Zune can transcode them to you phone since it's one of the Codecs the software actually adds to Windows systems that dont' have it (i.e. Windows XP).
The Zune Desktop Software natively supports MP4 files, so there's no reason not to believe it cannot transcode them for your WP7 or ZuneHD device.
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I'm pretty sure Zune can transcode them to you phone since it's one of the Codecs the software actually adds to Windows systems that dont' have it (i.e. Windows XP).
The Zune Desktop Software natively supports MP4 files, so there's no reason not to believe it cannot transcode them for your WP7 or ZuneHD device.
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Ah yes. So when you throw like 3 movies to your device you wait like 4 hours for "transcoding".
Because of the "Zune concept".
Yeah, it'd be pretty nifty if it could play every format, but I got used to handbraking files for my Tilt2 anyway, just because they saved a ton of space, and, in my opinion, looked better when they were properly encoded for the screen size they were gonna be played on. So, yeah, the system had already broken me into not expecting magic from a cell phone. Ohwellz.
Like most gripes about 7, this one is likely rooted into Microsoft complying with an IP owner's crazy demands just so they can offer content at all. That's the price we pay.
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Ah yes. So when you throw like 3 movies to your device you wait like 4 hours for "transcoding".
Because of the "Zune concept".
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Which movie did you transcode that took 4 hours?
This is a bit interesting. I recently got a Focus updating from my iPhone. I loaded Zune up and then added my library but was told that a number of songs could not be played. No biggie as I don't really use my phone as my iPod. Fast forward to today and I had unbranded my loaded the pre-Nodo update with the new Zune. I decided to load up my library and I can now play Apple DRM free files (M4A).
Has anyone else noticed this? New feature of the update perhaps, or am I just losing my mind?
Are you on a Mac? I know the Zune Connector software was updated to support Apple audio files
I am on Windows... I wasn't sure if it would work to be honest. The first time that I loaded the files in, none of the ones bought via iTunes would play but now all of them do. I even loaded a song to the phone and it played.
That is quite nice.
In reverse yesterday Zune quit showing ANY artwork of any album, just a plain background. Even with the albums which were previously displaying.
According to the supported codecs list, WP7 can play m4a: http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ff462087(VS.92).aspx
Are you sure you weren't trying to load m4p files?
No, these are M4A files. Like I said, I might have been out of my mind.
Well, now I am ever happier with the phone.
For anyone using the file service Put.io, this app lets you stream and locally store MP4 converted videos.
This was my 1st WP7 app, learning the ropes etc - however I will not work on it in its current state (a redesign is required)
However, until the day I get my act together feel free to try this version for free and watch those videos easily
More dev updates will be found at X-Volt.com
P.s this can only run videos on a device that is not connected to the computer!
thx workshop2
I forgot to say, tap and hold items for the context menu (the only working options are stream/open video and download a video - if the file is local then it can also be deleted)
A few bugs?
Great app if I could get it to work. When I sign in an error pops up saying:
Error converting value "2558511245" to type 'System.Int32'.
I press ok and it continues to connect. I go to my files folder but I havent been able to get it to download. I get another error saying theres a problem with mediaplayer....Then it signs back in with your user key and api secret. So I start all over and try to stream the movie. That worked.....almost :/ I had picture, but no audio. I checked the movie from my laptop and the movie does have sound. It just doesnt have sound while streaming to my WP7 HTC. Another thing is there anyway that our user key and api secret can be saved so we dont have to sign in every time we open the program or it crashes? That's also happened a few times. It crashes and I get a black error screen with a lot of writing.
So I have been driving myself crazy trying to get it to work. Do you think you could fix these issues in your next update?
Thanks so much!
Oops, I forgot I had my API key being saved (bit of a security issue there...)
To stream video you can't have the phone connected to the comp, but it runs fine on my phone (Omnia 7) however sometimes put.io conversions arn't always perfect.
If you can give me some more of the error message (converting number to int) so I can fix that for you, but as I said im not planning on doing much with this application as im going to rebuild it once im less busy. You can only download/steam films that have been converted, and to download you hold down on the item to bring up the context menu, then click download.
You can find the settings saving error fixed in the latest attachment at the top of the screen.
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Thank you for fixing the save settings. I've been filling my put.io account up with converted .mp4 movies. I bought a subscription to put.io so that I can use the app you developed. However when I open the app on my phone, the movie list shows up, but I'm not ablt to do anything with them. They wont open at all for streaming or downloading and I don't have my phone plugged into the computer when using the app. I cant hardly wait until you have the time to rebuild this app. When all the bugs ahve been worked out I think this app will be amazing. Until then I wait in frustration.........
Well I will say it could be months until I am able to do anything as this was just a research application into WP7 development (I learned many lessons )
For the moment, if you could give me more details about the movies not working - does an error appear? What does it say? Have you double checked Put.io to see if the videos are converted? All this information can help me see if I can fix anything...
I know the Mango update brings more video streaming capabilites in the near future, maybe that will help.
P.s I hope you lying about buying a sub to use this app
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Well I will say it could be months until I am able to do anything as this was just a research application into WP7 development (I learned many lessons )
For the moment, if you could give me more details about the movies not working - does an error appear? What does it say? Have you double checked Put.io to see if the videos are converted? All this information can help me see if I can fix anything...
I know the Mango update brings more video streaming capabilites in the near future, maybe that will help.
P.s I hope you lying about buying a sub to use this app
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No, Im not kidding. I paid for a sub to put.io I've been adding .mp4 files to put.io from mobilism.org. The files are in .mp4 format. If I add them from my computer through Zune, they work on my phone, just not through the put.io app. At this time I am not getting any errors popping up because Im not able to do anything at all as I mentioned before.
Out of curiosity, I added an .avi movie to put.io and then from the site, converted it to .mp4. I wasnt able to view it from the app so I reinstalled your previous app and signed in. The .avi movie file showed in my list and I was able to stream it. However it buffered a LOT. I tried to download the file and eventually the app crashed. So I added the latest updated app back to my phone. Which puts me where I am now, still not able to download or stream my .mp4 files. Am I doing something wrong??
No, it sounds like the application isn't working. Dont hold your breath for a quick fix as im extremely busy at the moment. Thanks for the interest though, makes me want to do it even more (btw, what device are you using?)
Workshop2 said:
No, it sounds like the application isn't working. Dont hold your breath for a quick fix as im extremely busy at the moment. Thanks for the interest though, makes me want to do it even more (btw, what device are you using?)
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I have the HTC Surround. Ok, I'll just just check back now and then as I am very interested in using your app
After a lot of trial and error, I figured out how to get the movies to stream to my phone. I have to upload torrent .avi files to put.io and then convert them to .mp4 from the site. Uploaded .mp4 files wont work for some reason. However, I also found an app ~ yomomedia. With yomomedia I can rss my put.io files and stream them to my phone. The stream player lets me rewind or fast forward through the movie and also saves my place if I need to leave the screen. With the put.io wm7 stream player, I can only pause the movie. If I leave the screen I loose the movie all together.
Just thought I'd let you know
Theres already cloud storage for music on ios and theres google music already but theres still no official skydrive music or whatever from microsoft what gives here? are they going to do anything cloud storage related for music with wp7:
Great
You just gave me idea for a new app, thanks... I just hope I will have some free time to code it, currently I'm developing another app "use your phone as a hidden camera", to be published this weekend
deadwrong03 said:
Theres already cloud storage for music on ios and theres google music already but theres still no official skydrive music or whatever from microsoft what gives here? are they going to do anything cloud storage related for music with wp7:
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Try Anemoplayer. Its more proof of concept at this point but once the developer implements playlists and background support you'll be streaming on the go
N3croman said:
You just gave me idea for a new app, thanks... I just hope I will have some free time to code it, currently I'm developing another app "use your phone as a hidden camera", to be published this weekend
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Hey, sound like good idea to me, haha.
Should be able to shut the screen off , and still able to take the picture *sliently* haha.
Alright, back to the main point.
Skydrive allow you to have 2GB Free... would be nice to have music up there but i mean like, is it really necessary? because i never filled my 16GB with Apps and Music.
This is puzzling. Zune is by far the best streaming service of all three OSes. You can listen to anything. iOS is limited to what you have in your collection. Google Music is the stupidest thing on Earth - why would anyone want to upload their own stuff and then stream it from there? Why would anyone choose that over Zune Pass?
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This is puzzling. Zune is by far the best streaming service of all three OSes. You can listen to anything. iOS is limited to what you have in your collection. Google Music is the stupidest thing on Earth - why would anyone want to upload their own stuff and then stream it from there? Why would anyone choose that over Zune Pass?
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It's free And it allows access to things that aren't on Zune
the problem is, zune isnt available worldwide.... in austria we does not have zune music. only zune video... skydrive music services would be nice ^^
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It's free
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But useless.
Erazor84 said:
the problem is, zune isnt available worldwide.... in austria we does not have zune music. only zune video... skydrive music services would be nice ^^
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Yeah, that's true. I'm using it here but I agree, it's not easy and most people wouldn't do it.
Still uploading your own stuff to the cloud and listening from there sounds weird to me. The value in Zune Pass isn't the fact that stuff is streamed, and that's the only thing that is similar in Google Music.
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Still uploading your own stuff to the cloud and listening from there sounds weird to me. The value in Zune Pass isn't the fact that stuff is streamed, and that's the only thing that is similar in Google Music.
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I agree, Zune pass is the best of the three services. Although you have to pay for it.
On a side note, has anyone set up a Windows Home Server? I downloaded an app to connect to my server and now I can stream my personal music collection directly off of it. Zune Pass + personal collection on Home Server = endless music.
I have a Windows Home Server at home and that's where I store stuff including music. But I don't stream it from there though. The main problem with streaming is battery drain. It's much more practical to just copy music to the phone. If it had more generous storage I would have to do it just once.
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I agree, Zune pass is the best of the three services. Although you have to pay for it.
On a side note, has anyone set up a Windows Home Server? I downloaded an app to connect to my server and now I can stream my personal music collection directly off of it. Zune Pass + personal collection on Home Server = endless music.
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how does home server work? Does ur computer have to always work? When you stream is the music history saved in the zune player shuffled with what's already on your memory card?
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