Update on Issue #1: 2010.11.29
This issue appears to affect all unlocked Froyo devices on the Rogers network. It MAY affect all Froyo devices, regardless of network lock status, but we have been unable to confirm this (yet) on the only Froyo device locked to Rogers - The Acer Liquid e.
There are currently 4 threads (that I am aware of) scattered around XDA. As this problem affects multiple devices I will start posting updates in the General Discussion/Q&A thread, and will stop posting updates here. If you are looking for more information, please refer to:
Main Thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=845152
Other Device Specific Threads:
N1: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=849969
DZ: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=848793
SGS: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=850784Wanted to see if this is isolated to my phone or if others have these issues.
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Phone is Rooted, S-Off, Paul Obriens Custom ROM with HTC Sense on Rogers Network.
1. Cannot get a location lock unless I use GPS, it will not give me a location in Maps at all unless I turn on GPS.
2. Display is set to Automatic Brightness but the screen stays the same no matter if i'm in direct sunlight or in a pitch black room
3. Have SMS Timestamp fix but am still getting messages which sometimes show hours behind or hours ahead
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For the GPS issue, you should post this up in the thread on Paul's ROM, to see if others have the problem. I presume your GPS worked fine on the stock ROM ?
Others have reported issues with the automatic brightness setting. I suspect it doesn't work at all, even on the stock ROM.
Also have issue with automatic brightness adjusting not working.
ayewhy said:
Also have issue with automatic brightness adjusting not working.
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I don't think I've seen anyone saying that it *does* work for them in the stock ROM. Anyone ?
steviewevie said:
For the GPS issue, you should post this up in the thread on Paul's ROM, to see if others have the problem. I presume your GPS worked fine on the stock ROM ?
Others have reported issues with the automatic brightness setting. I suspect it doesn't work at all, even on the stock ROM.
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Will do, hopefully it can get fixed. The GPS works fine, locks fast. It's when I don't have GPS enabled that it won't give a location using the wireless network now.
Wonder if making a single thread regarding auto brightness would be good. I've emailed HTC and they gave the typical "pull battery, factory reset" garbage. And after "exhausting" those "fixes" they simply say to call and RMA the device...ugh
It works on my DZ(stock ROM), but not flawless. It adjusts the brightness when I shine on the sensor with a flashlight, but it won't change back to 'normal' when I move the flashlight away. It changes back after going to sleep and unlocking. Also, it won't go below approx. 50%.
Edit: I checked it again and it does change back, it just takes a few seconds.
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andijvie42 said:
It works on my DZ(stock ROM), but not flawless. It adjusts the brightness when I shine on the sensor with a flashlight, but it won't change back to 'normal' when I move the flashlight away. It changes back after going to sleep and unlocking. Also, it won't go below approx. 50%.
Edit: I checked it again and it does change back, it just takes a few seconds.
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Can you take a video possibly of this, what are the details of your phone? Rooted? S-Off?
The screen will "dim" when the backlight times out but it never actively dims because of the sensor on my phone.
Stealth1985 said:
Can you take a video possibly of this, what are the details of your phone? Rooted? S-Off?
The screen will "dim" when the backlight times out but it never actively dims because of the sensor on my phone.
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My phone is completely stock. The dimming might be too little to be noticed, have you tried to shine a light directly in the light sensor, while being in a fairly dark room, so that you can observe the maximum change of brightness?
You could also download one of the sensor apps out there and see if the sensor works. Mine says light level 0 in a darker room, and max when i shine a light in the sensor.
I doubt the sensor is very useful though, as the brightness only goes from approx. 50 to 80%...(going from zero light to lightest) might be better if these values could be set.
About the video, the only camera I have right now is the DZ, so I'll see what I can do.
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andijvie42 said:
It works on my DZ(stock ROM), but not flawless. It adjusts the brightness when I shine on the sensor with a flashlight, but it won't change back to 'normal' when I move the flashlight away.
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That's interesting, thanks, I'll give that a try.
Sounds like the auto-brightness and the keyboard/cap buttons backlight (both of which use the light sensor) might both suffer from the same thing - i.e. very poor programming/implementation.
I have issues 1 and 2 (but not 3).
I would like to add that auto-brightness seemed to work fine when I (briefly) used CyanogenMod RC2, though I have no other Android devices to compare with.
I dumped the stock Sense ROM pretty quickly so this might have worked fine on the original ROM.
This definitely sucks, what ROM do you have that the location doesn't work too?
Pretty disappointed that I'm having these issues and HTC's response is send it in. I am not paying to re-unlock another phone because they can't make something that fully works.
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I have some bad news for you about point 1. It looks like a number of people on various unlocked android devices (N1, Desire, SGS i9000m) are experiencing the network location problem.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=845152
There is w (crappy, but still functional) work around, but...
For most of us it started sometime around Nov 14th.
It has some pretty unhappy implications for those of us who prefer android and want a top-end phone.
Good luck.
Damn Rogers seems to have screwed things up.
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Yeah. Maybe.
It seems to be an interaction between Rogers and unlocked android phones. We don't know whether it is all unlocked android phones, though, or even if it is specific models (i.e. would an unlocked Rogers Captivate have the same problem), or a specific OS (i.e. we don't know yet if the problem happens on eclair - while not directly useful to the DZ owners, it would at least help to pinpoint the problem and might help to get Google to step-up).
There are just too many unknowns, and how do you speak with someone with sufficient knowledge to speak intelligently? Rogers tech support hasn't been much help, and Google and Rogers seem to want to bounce the problem between each other.
Auto-brightness: Using My sensors free market app, checked the light sensor. All the sensors but the light gives live info. Looks like it doesnt work at all, like not switched on.
Uk htc z, stock rom.
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Auto-brightness: Using My sensors free market app, checked the light sensor. All the sensors but the light gives live info. Looks like it doesnt work at all, like not switched on.
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Could be that the app doesn't work with the DZ light sensor properly though ? I know my light sensor does something, because the keyboard/cap keys backlight turns on and off kind of randomly depending on light levels (and if you block the sensor then the lights come on).
Thats true. It happens here too. But still might be related...
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Ok.with very bright flash light around it gives data with the my sensors app. Then its the levels its moving light level between,as mentioned in this thread before.
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Ok.with very bright flash light around it gives data with the my sensors app. Then its the levels its moving light level between,as mentioned in this thread before.
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Cool, kinda sounds like it works, just very very badly.
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Hello,
I recently bought an Incredible for my girlfriend on craigslist. It was only 2 months old (in great condition to boot). Either way after flashing CM7.0 I noticed that the automatic backlight setting did not work. I just set it to around 25% and figured I would figure it out later. After 7.0.2.1 came out I flashed that and no change. I then decided to figure it out. It seems that after waking the sensor doesn't work unless really flooded with direct bright light (such as the flash light from my incredible). After that it works mostly as intended.
Here is how I tested it. I lock the phone when in the custom light levels screen. When unlocking the Sensor (filtered / raw) is at 10/10 and will not change no matter what I do until I hit it directly with a bright light. I believe that it will also change eventually letting it just sit. Most of my tests involved using bright light sources. After that the sensor works just fine and changes almost instantly when I cover it with my hand and then move it into regular room light. Is this a known issue? I checked the bug tracker briefly but did not see anything. I have had two others test. One had fine light sensor response the other had the same issue as me.
Anyone have any idea?
I've noticed that the automatic brightness does work, but at the default levels its way too dark. Had to go info the menu and bump up all the levels and it's alright now. Doesn't seem like it works quite as smoothly as it does on sense roms but I haven't gone through and tweaked everything perfectly, I honestly don't understand all the adjustments that are available.
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I've noticed that the automatic brightness does work, but at the default levels its way too dark. Had to go info the menu and bump up all the levels and it's alright now. Doesn't seem like it works quite as smoothly as it does on sense roms but I haven't gone through and tweaked everything perfectly, I honestly don't understand all the adjustments that are available.
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It does work but the sensor doesn't respond in a timely fashion.
Have you tried changing the sample interval?
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What settings are you using? I.E. do you have filtering enabled? What is your window length? Sample interval? Etc.
I've never seen anyone discuss this as a CM7 bug. Based on the way you are describing it, it sounds like you might just need to tweak your settings.
For example, if your window length is very long and sample interval slow, that might be why your readings are taking so long to update. As for why the reading changes as soon as you hit it with a bright light, you could be tripping the reset threshold.
Just in case you haven't checked it out already:
Numerical explanation of the CM7 automatic backlight settings
I will check when she gets off work. All I did was flash cm7. I didn't mess with light sensor settings.
Ok... I have checked it... Not good. Sample intervals were set to 1s. Even still they were not enabled. Messing with the settings didn't yield any results either. It was still sluggish until hitting it with bright light...
I would search, there are multiple threads around where people have posted their settings, I would try those then tweak it to your liking. Also check out byrong's thread, the man knows his stuff.
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The automatic brightness sucks on stock as well. Just turn it off. You can't see the screen in bright sunlight no matter what the setting is, and you can see it just fine at 64/255 inside. All the automatic brightness does is give you a headache.
Hi,
I've downloaded the Widget "Xperia Arc Flashlight" so I can use the Xperia Play photolight on the backside as a very bright flashlight.
But: The LED does light constantly with some kind of visible short pulse... like a slight flicker or interruption. Is this normal?
Could you check if your phones behave like this, too? It's slightly visible but it IS visible and I want to know if there's s.th. wrong.
Thanks
system02 said:
Hi,
I've downloaded the Widget "Xperia Arc Flashlight" so I can use the Xperia Play photolight on the backside as a very bright flashlight.
But: The LED does light constantly with some kind of visible short pulse... like a slight flicker or interruption. Is this normal?
Could you check if your phones behave like this, too? It's slightly visible but it IS visible and I want to know if there's s.th. wrong.
Thanks
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Sometimes happens to to me when I'm overusing it,but after a few minutes it goes normal
Oha... thanks for your reply.
The Xperia Play is new and about 20min "old" ;-)
defective or not!?
Just as system02 said. It must be that kind of thing like the gap from the slider, although it shouldn't do like that.
Every single phone that has an LED flash does the same thing when used as a flashlight. It's completely normal.
It's not normal because:
- my 1st Play didn't have this issue
- my Arc didn't have this issue
- my Blackberry 9700 doesn't have this issue
I've updatet the software on my new Xperia Play and I thought it could have s.th. to do with the update...!?
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Every single phone that has an LED flash does the same thing when used as a flashlight. It's completely normal.
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None of my phones in the past flickered at all, my Play does it all the time, I think its a design issue somewhere.
mine used to do that but I used toggle auto brightness app from the market and it no longer does it.
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My old Legend used to blink it's LED from time to time, but no where near as noticeable as the Play's LED. Not exactly an issue for me though.
mine flickers when using video camera with lights on and when using Power Control Plus to turn on Flashlight. Nevertheless, it's very useful when the power goes out especially now it's kinda stormy here..
looking at the frequency of the issue, i think it's very normal..
PS, mine's bought in Hong Kong then flashed to UK, same issue eversince..
Not sure if they're linked but mine's been fine since i disabled the auto light sensor but before i disabled it, the led did flicker quite badly
tom
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Mine does the exact same thing, when using video recorder in the dark its like ive hit the strobe light button.. its ok for about 4-5secs then its like ive walked into cream in ibiza, it goes nuts.. ive had lots of xperia phones,, x10i x10 mini, x10 mini pro, etc none had the issue, i had it on the original firmware and now i have it on the 2.3.4 rom posted on this forum..
Its a strange one and kinda annoying
Sorry to bring this thread back, but the pulsating/flicker, I've seen on 3 Play's, from 2.3.2 - 2.3.3 - 2.3.4.
All 3 did it on all 3 software updates.
Uk phones, with the 2.3.2/2.3.3 uk updates, and then the Nordic update.
It's pulsating/flickering 50 times a minute, so 50hz(is that right?), increasing it's rate would effectively make it palatable to the human eye, and also remove the refresh lines you get from bright or close up subjects when using the flash as a light, seen on the recording screen, and on the actual recording...looking like old monitor refresh rates as seen through a camera with the travelling black lines.
Sony Ericsson support were useless when I mentioned it to them, stating if it was a fault, it would be fixed.
Is there any way to report this as a fault, or to fix it, or am I stuck with Customer Service Support Agents(call centre staff, basically.).
Is there any way or even a strobe app, that allows control of the light.
I know there's one on the windows phone that has a control for this issue.
LED Flashlight it's called, and the update fixes "Increased refresh rate to fix LED flickering on some phones."
Hi, I've the same problem. I also noticed that Led flick only when phone has mobile network turned on. When is on airplane mode it's normal.
Can someone else confirm? Maybe this problem can be solved with a baseband update.
EDIT: I found that this problem disappear when phone run in 3g, so it's about gsm.
Strange.. when I first bought the phone.. turned the LED on, it flickers..
Then today, after a week+ I tested it again and it's ok...
However, my earpiece speaker has blown up and cracking.. I've done some research and it seemed that there are so many users which have similar issues (either with the LED, the earpiece, etc) - It's sad to say that some xplay builds are defective from the start - could be from the hardware batch.
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Strange.. when I first bought the phone.. turned the LED on, it flickers..
Then today, after a week+ I tested it again and it's ok...
However, my earpiece speaker has blown up and cracking.. I've done some research and it seemed that there are so many users which have similar issues (either with the LED, the earpiece, etc) - It's sad to say that some xplay builds are defective from the start - could be from the hardware batch.
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Can you repeat the test in 2g?
Btw I checked the call quality: in 3g I heard nothing in background, in 2g I heard a intermittent buzzing.
Maybe in 2g that isn't a problem in the sense that it's common in every phone that make a 2g call, or it may be a radio problem that can be related to led issue..
I think that tomorrow I'll try to call someone at sony ericsson.
I did the test and it is true, in flight mode the light dont flik. Now i want to know what is the base band of you that have the same issue.
Thanks.
Mine did that on AT&T's 2.3.3, Now on DarkForest ICS with Darkforest Kernel, doesnt do it.
Mine always flickers, using two different flashlight apps.
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Hey dudes, i want to tell you that i solved the problem, i flashed the phone with the android 2.3.2 and it works fine now as too the HSUPA and GPS that i was having problems.
Thank you,
Hi all.
I'm reading a lot about 'screen flicker'. But it seems people are using this to describe a few different faults.
I've noticed that my one x backlight flickers when in auto brightness mode. But it only does it under artificial light. Under natural light it's totally fine.
If I turn off Auto brightness, it is completely fine also, regardless of what level I set the brightness to.
It's almost as if the software isn't filtering the auto brightness sensor output enough and trying to respond instantaneously to even the slightest light change, giving the impression of a flicker.
Who else has this issue specifically?
It looks to me like a software issue, but I only have 3 days left in my return for refund peiod and I'm not sure what the best option is.
Cheers.
EDIT: On to my 10th handset now with the same issue and just about ready to give up, but have noticed that the flicker seems to be worse when the CPU is coming on and off heavy load.
Can someone with Root and SETCPU installed please try different governers to see if they make any difference to this issue? I don't wan to root this phone to try it myself as I may end up returning it. Thanks!
Sentinel196 said:
Hi all.
I'm reading a lot about 'screen flicker'. But it seems people are using this to describe a few different faults.
I've noticed that my one x backlight flickers when in auto brightness mode. But it only does it under artificial light. Under natural light it's totally fine.
If I turn off Auto brightness, it is completely fine also, regardless of what level I set the brightness to.
It's almost as if the software isn't filtering the auto brightness sensor output enough and trying to respond instantaneously to even the slightest light change, giving the impression of a flicker.
Who else has this issue specifically?
It looks to me like a software issue, but I only have 3 days left in my return for refund peiod and I'm not sure what the best option is.
Cheers.
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Oh well return it, and buy a new one thats probably the best option, i ordered mine yesterday, and ill do the same in 2 weeks if it have issues
Yeah I'm thinking that might be the best option. It's just that it seems to be a Software issue to me.
Anyone upgraded to 1.28 and seen this specific problem (not the screen jumping and flickering pixels) go away?
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Yeah I'm thinking that might be the best option. It's just that it seems to be a Software issue to me.
Anyone upgraded to 1.28 and seen this specific problem (not the screen jumping and flickering pixels) go away?
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I've upgraded to 1.28 and still have the flickering problem. I would love to be able to believe its software and its going to get fixed with an OTA, but at the moment everyone is simply uncertain as to what the future holds.
HTC advices anyone with a flickering screen to go to your carrier and ask for a replacement
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On to my 10th handset with auto-brightness flicker now. At what point should i jsut give up? lol
It seems to be somehow related to CPU load also as I'm noticing the flicker is far worse when the cpu is changing power states.
Can someone with root try a different governer for the CPU and see if that changes the flicker at all?
BUMP. I'd be really great if someone rooted could test this theory!
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I really cant help but ill tell my experience with my onex for the past two or three weeks.
I had the flickering screen twice,
1. random on the notification bar.
2. I was taking photos and got the CPU loaded because I was shooting too many pics. the bottom side of the screen was flickering.
anyway, I notice that the flickering only happend when the auto screen rotate is enabled.
Thanks for the reply, but I think you're talking about a different flicker. I'm talking about the back-light flicker when Auto Brightness is enabled. Not the LCD panel flicker.
Now you can enjoy SGS3 Smart Stay funcionality in HOX too. Download ISeeyou app from Play Store to get the feature.
razzil.com/get-smart-stay-feature-any-android-phone.html
Works perfect . Whether it drains battery.
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Thanks. It works, now just have to monitor on the battery life.
Btw, would like to ask on the notification icon, is it possible to set it to show only when the "smart stay function" is activated during looking at screen?
Nothing happens on my one!!!!
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Nothing happens on my one!!!!
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Haha. You have to stare really really hard at the front camera. I kid
What's your screen off time? If you set it to the lowest for the screen to turn off after 15 sec, it might not work since the free version of the app detects your face every 20sec by default.
Get the paid version and you can set face detect time and scan time
it works quite well I must say
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shtipu1111 said:
Nothing happens on my one!!!!
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As @samuelong87 mention buy Premium version so that you can customize the time. It works perfectly at my side.
Smart Stay would be a nice feature to have but I would like to think that the app would somehow drain lots of battery.. abusing the front camera every half a minute or so would somehow have an impact I'm sure.
I wonder if the S3 would have enhanced battery life if they disabled the Smart Stay option.
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Smart Stay would be a nice feature to have but I would like to think that the app would somehow drain lots of battery.. abusing the front camera every half a minute or so would somehow have an impact I'm sure.
I wonder if the S3 would have enhanced battery life if they disabled the Smart Stay option.
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i am wonder the same thing.
but i just purchased it and i will test
this is not interfering in any way to the auto brightness settings in in display as far as i can see.
it would be more than interesting to have an option to auto power off display after no face detecting (with customizable timing of course)
regards
Oh got it..thnx
andreipga85 said:
i am wonder the same thing.
but i just purchased it and i will test
this is not interfering in any way to the auto brightness settings in in display as far as i can see.
it would be more than interesting to have an option to auto power off display after no face detecting (with customizable timing of course)
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Well, first impression on this app is that it's not really battery friendly, but it does what it is supposed to do very well. Maybe next releases will be better from this point of view.
Regards
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Well, seems i will use it just from time to time
But is indeed an app that does well what is meant to do.
Regrads!
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Regards
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This app appears not working when device is on horizontal position
It works here when I'm switching to landscape mode, maybe you're blocking the front camera with your finger a little bit ?
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Now HTC One X is the best phone. This was the only feature missing
ISeeYou Causing Issues On My HOX
I have the HOX International. I used this app, and though it's a great concept, I was left largely dissatisfied by it.
While it works as advertised, I'm peeved with a couple of issues:
1) It blocks BOTH the front and back cameras. Try accessing the camera app while the service is ON and you only get a black screen.
2) It seems to hog battery occasionally (although this happens rarely).
3) I had the service to autostart, and received the shock of my life when around 1 hour into my day, I found that the rear camera was heating up. This might be a direct consequence of point 1 above.
I am on Stock and have the latest firmware update.
I don't know if any of you are facing these issues, but I've uninstalled the app ever since I started facing it.
Just a friendly heads up!
argetlam1 said:
I have the HOX International. I used this app, and though it's a great concept, I was left largely dissatisfied by it.
While it works as advertised, I'm peeved with a couple of issues:
1) It blocks BOTH the front and back cameras. Try accessing the camera app while the service is ON and you only get a black screen.
2) It seems to hog battery occasionally (although this happens rarely).
3) I had the service to autostart, and received the shock of my life when around 1 hour into my day, I found that the rear camera was heating up. This might be a direct consequence of point 1 above.
I am on Stock and have the latest firmware update.
I don't know if any of you are facing these issues, but I've uninstalled the app ever since I started facing it.
Just a friendly heads up!
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The camera works well here! But, when I launched it from lock screen, it was blank. After unlocking properly with the secure path I use, both front and back cameras worked! (Newest wwe firmware.)
BUT: it DOES brake Face Unlock! I already sent a bug report e-mail to the dev
Used to work ok,then stoped without reason and I got blank screen with stock and other camera app(FV 5 and ics+).Unistalled it,but still had to reboot phone to get camera working properly.Installed it again,it works now,stock camera is working as well as FV5,with ics + , it gets FC sometimes...very nice idea,needs some polishing.
argetlam1 said:
I have the HOX International. I used this app, and though it's a great concept, I was left largely dissatisfied by it.
While it works as advertised, I'm peeved with a couple of issues:
1) It blocks BOTH the front and back cameras. Try accessing the camera app while the service is ON and you only get a black screen.
2) It seems to hog battery occasionally (although this happens rarely).
3) I had the service to autostart, and received the shock of my life when around 1 hour into my day, I found that the rear camera was heating up. This might be a direct consequence of point 1 above.
I am on Stock and have the latest firmware update.
I don't know if any of you are facing these issues, but I've uninstalled the app ever since I started facing it.
Just a friendly heads up!
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I had haven't any problem as you wrote.
And also battery brain is normal from the moment front camera open for checking every 20". But no something special.
Anyway I think we dont need so match this future. At smartphones screen is so small, so when you read anything you need to scroll down. It's meaning if you touch the screen will continue to stay wakeup. I would like to have something like that in my iPad.
I can't get this working
So my autobrightness seems to not really work, sometimes when its bright outside It seems like it might change a little but for the most part it doesn't change from the base brightness I have it set at I have to change it to suit my needs. Anyone see this problem with their phone? I had thought maybe jellybean would fix it but it doesn't appear to have.
There's a few of us having this problem. I think more would if they used their phones outside in the sun. It seems to be a JB flaw. I don't remember it happening on zv9. Although the display has always been an issue with heat and turning itself down to 63%.
I've seen this issue. Also it changes by itself going bright to dark and back again a few times a day. Does anyone else have the issue of a notification flash without a notification? Constantly flashing green led.
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