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ext2 does help! score 2221 + NAND INTACT *EDITED 21AUG 2018HKT

I know that many people worry about frequent reads/writes will damage the NAND, so I began a new test days before without using the NAND
this time, I switched from rfs to ext2, with some mods to the kernel to load the ext2 partitions, no OC
note that this is only serve as a real case to show u ext2's performance and to prove that rfs is one of the problem areas. u guys can implement it your ways with further improvements, perhaps with ext3, ext4, yaffs, etc
EDIT: 21AUG 2018HKT
- some ppl said that it is easy to cheat the score obtained in quadrant by moving around the quadrant's data files. yes, i agree that. but it wil be much easier to edit it in photoshxp for even 30k score. and although some ppl said the score itself is meaningless, which i agree with it also, but it provides a mean to let u know how ur phone is performed. it is not an indicator for whether ur videos or sounds can be played smoothly since it depends on a lot of things as well
- also note that if u formatted the /sdcard in different file format, some of the recovery mode functions wont work since it will only mount rfs/vfat, so u have to modify the stock recovery or rom manager's recovery manually, or by mounting the partitions via shell
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so this will lead to a whole new type of lagfix?

So this is the base for the ultimate lagfix?

daijirok said:
so this will lead to a whole new type of lagfix?
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well, I dono. let you guys decide

Nice to see the score split up in the different parts. It shows that the inital I/O of GS wasn't really that bad. Also i guess we can expect about 750 points of CPU score with Froyo (looking at the Nexus), so maybe a 3000 score is within reach .

toca79 said:
So this is the base for the ultimate lagfix?
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i dono think so, more to come i think

mbr01 said:
Nice to see the score split up in the different parts. It shows that the inital I/O of GS wasn't really that bad. Also i guess we can expect about 750 points of CPU score with Froyo (looking at the Nexus), so maybe a 3000 score is within reach .
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right, i saw one with 27xx or something already with old tricks. so 3000 should not be a problem with 2.2

ykk_five said:
i dono think so, more to come i think
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Great work anyway!!

ykk_five said:
right, i saw one with 27xx or something already with old tricks. so 3000 should not be a problem with 2.2
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ykk_five, first, many thanks for the tip. The score of 2711 was done during your first initial suggestion, where the fix was temporary. In additional, I happen to have the overclock kernel (by raspdeep) installed. Hence, I just ran it to see how much mileage we can get from the SGS.
Having said that, RyanZA and Chainfire had implemented excellent lagfixes. With your latest test, I'm really not sure how much more improvement we can get. Many of us are now very happy with what they have, and I am not sure if there are anymore juice to be squeezed out from this.
Let's hear it from the more experienced users, and perhaps this latest discovery might be as exciting as your first.
Greetings from Singapore.

g00ndu said:
ykk_five, first, many thanks for the tip. The score of 2711 was done during your first initial suggestion, where the fix was temporary. In additional, I happen to have the overclock kernel (by raspdeep) installed. Hence, I just ran it to see how much mileage we can get from the SGS.
Having said that, RyanZA and Chainfire had implemented excellent lagfixes. With your latest test, I'm really not sure how much more improvement we can get. Many of us are now very happy with what they have, and I am not sure if there are anymore juice to be squeezed out from this.
Let's hear it from the more experienced users, and perhaps this latest discovery might be as exciting as your first.
Greetings from Singapore.
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thx a lot, i really hope that u guys will enjoy it!

I have a consistent score of 990+ without any lag fix on a froyo ROM. Previously I used a lag fixed JM5 which score 2000+, however with everyday use the froyo ROM seems snappier. Good to see all efforts to speed things up and eliminate the lag, but I'm not sure higher benchmarks score translate to a better user experience.
What I'm hoping for now is a fix than enables smooth scrolling of contacts & call logs seen on the desire.
Good work though!

Frostfree said:
I have a consistent score of 990+ without any lag fix on a froyo ROM. Previously I used a lag fixed JM5 which score 2000+, however with everyday use the froyo ROM seems snappier. Good to see all efforts to speed things up and eliminate the lag, but I'm not sure higher benchmarks score translate to a better user experience.
What I'm hoping for now is a fix than enables smooth scrolling of contacts & call logs seen on the desire.
Good work though!
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u can compare the IO stat, although it's a roughly comparison

g00ndu said:
ykk_five, first, many thanks for the tip. The score of 2711 was done during your first initial suggestion, where the fix was temporary. In additional, I happen to have the overclock kernel (by raspdeep) installed. Hence, I just ran it to see how much mileage we can get from the SGS.
Having said that, RyanZA and Chainfire had implemented excellent lagfixes. With your latest test, I'm really not sure how much more improvement we can get. Many of us are now very happy with what they have, and I am not sure if there are anymore juice to be squeezed out from this.
Let's hear it from the more experienced users, and perhaps this latest discovery might be as exciting as your first.
Greetings from Singapore.
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This kind of solution should be a lot better as it doesn't use any space (or so i undertand).

pls read my newly added comments at the 1st page
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So what exactly did you do to get these new scores? Did you format the /data partition as EXT2 to get these scores?

I understand someone may not like to spend time to answer noob's questions. But what is the point to show just the Quadrant score and then tell others you have done something in this Development board? Should it be presented in a more technical way?

Yes please give some more details on what exactly you did.
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I wonder if Froyo will bump this score even higher.
I just performed a test on the HTC Desire, with newly installed Froyo (2.2). On the scale above, it scores between the Nexus and the Droid, but closer to the Droid. What intrigued me is that the reason the score was lower than the Nexus, was the CPU score. The other colours were about the same as the Nexus One. The CPU part was still bigger than anything else (up to the 1/4 of the green part on the droid below it) but about 4/5 that of the Nexus. Sorry I couldn't post a screenshot.
Which is really weird, since the two devices share the same CPU. (are the reference scores accurate?)
EDIT: I tried running it again, and I got a higher CPU score this time, so now it almost matches the Nexus (up to 1/2 of the green part on the Droid) Overall score 1301. So scratch the above comment, I guess the reference scores are the highest you can get.
Now in the picture of the Galaxy above, the biggest part is the IO score, which is logical because of the modification, but the CPU score is very small. So assuming that Froyo will bump up the cpu part like on the Nexus and the Desire, we'll be looking one hell of a record score, right?
Has anyone with a JP firmware tried this lagfix?

The better CPU scores on FROYO are due to the JIT Compiller! The JP firmwares Have JIT but it is not active still! Or atleast not to the point it is on the N1! I hope that the final firmware will have full speed.

@ykk_five - I'm not really sure what NEW point you're making, but I love that you're still working on this!
Didn't we pretty much already know that rfs was the appaent problem with the i/o? You proved that early on as far as I can tell. Paul O and mimocan assumed it was slow hardware with their fixes, but you showed that a different fs fixed it on the same memory space. Some of us have been clamoring for a reformat of the internal rom space as the solution since you first posted your findings.
What I find more interesting is that the i/o on the stock SGS in Quadrant isn't that bad - it appears comparable to most of the other phones, except the Motorola Droid X! I wonder why it's so fast on that one.
My own earlier READ-speed testing done with reading a 200mb data file from the command line with the dd command showed that read speeds on RFS internal /data partition vs ext4 on sdcard partition were pretty close. Seems like RFS can serve up the reads pretty darned fast (Class 6 speeds or better). Well over 13Mb/s from my post over on Modaco:
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BEST SPEED ON EXTERNAL SDCARD EXT 4 = 15.79 MB/S
BEST SPEED ON EXTERNAL SDCARD FAT32 = 15.6 MB/S
BEST SPEED ON INTERNAL SDCARD FAT32 = 13.1 MB/S
BEST SPEED ON INTERNAL ROM AREA = 13.6 MB/S
Since we're now doing the loop mount ext2 on top of RFS fix, I thought I should test the read speeds there. I ran four tests, they ranged from 1.1MB/s to 8.1MB/s:
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BEST SPEED ON LOOP MOUNTED EXT2 /DATA/DATA = 8.1MB/S
That's right, it's 50% SLOWER to read files off the ext 2 /data/data partition (with RyanZ's 2-3 method) than just raw RFS on the best read, 1/13th of the speed in some cases!
Seems hard to imagine how this fix speeds things up other than cacheing writes, which shouldn't impact the opening of files, unless the lag in the first place was some sort of delay reading the files while other things were written to the disk.
With that in mind, apparently the Quadrant speedup is in the WRITE part of the i/o tests, wouldn't you agree? That would be because of the cached writes ext2 does vs RFS?
If this is the case, then high Quadrant scores aside, none of these fixes should really do much to improve the normal look and feel of using the phone, as you alluded to with your comment about playing back videos/music. RFS or ext will serve up the data at more than we need it.
It makes me wonder why so many of us assert that the phone is indeed much snappier on opening apps and stuff. I'm sure it's not a placebo for me, the phone definitely feels faster with any of the lag fixes we use.
What we really need is to see a breakdown in Quadrant's i/o benchmark that distinguishes between the read and writes.
I really don't like that with all these fixes, no one really knows why they speed the phone up.
I'm tempted to go back to just stock JM5 and see what happens.

Low benchmark score after root/custom rom and kernel

Hi!
First of all, I have been reading around and I did not find exactly what I want to know.
Yesterday I managed to root my desire and flash the CM7 ROM (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=957344). Today I've added a custom kernel, "vork" 720p (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=782875&highlight=vork).
My quadrant score is still low (around 1100), even though the phone behaves much better than the stock.
I have 2 questions:
1. What can I do to make it perform even better? (i have a friend with a desire hd who just flashed a sense rom, without any added stuff and scores over 2200).
2. should i install a new "radio"? My gsm signal is much stronger than before as it is.
3. Since this is my first time, what do you think of my choices with the ROM and Kernel? I chose them because they were popular and i assumed they are well tested and function well.
Thank you for your time.

Desire HD has better processor and GPU I believe hence bigger difference. Your score is good for Desire. I got around that overclocked on LeeDroid GB ROM.
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why do you even care bout the quadrant score ? :X
if you really feel excited bout high numbers having nothing to do with ur phone performance, go with data2ext roms, quadrant gives them 3000+ points, but still they perform worse than, for example, LeeDroid.
then again, new GingerBread Sense 2.1 roms have low quadrant scores, but they are really really fast.

I dont really care about quadrant, but it seems like a valid tool for measuring performance. At least it seems that everyone is judging by that. Quite frankly the phone works very well, i am just out of ideas to make it even better. And if the scores are meaningless why do people use it?

Its probably one of those my d...ck is bigger than yours things. Anyway I used data to SD and I also had high scores but overall experience was very laggy and jerky
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Quadrant scores are mesaurable only when you launch them on stock, unrooted roms. then it can give you and idea on how this phone with this software will perform.
after rooting, some hacks or scripts make quadrant scores not real

So this means my phone is fine as it is? There is nothing more I can do to enhance it?

you can overclock it, it should all be said in your ROMs topic.
like "OC up to 1200Mhz" means you should be able to set processor speed to 1200mhz with SetCpu. it all depends on kernel i think

Ok, thanks everyone for your input! If there are any more suggestions, I dont mind.

ROM Benchmark Scores

I got bored tonight and tested a few of the popular and recent ROM's for this phone. Below is the method of testing and the results.
I took these steps for -every- ROM tested.
Plugged phone in via USB to my computer and left it plugged in.
Factory reset using clockwork
format /system as well (i've seen a few rom's suggest this)
Installed ROM
Booted into ROM and let sit for 5 minutes without touching it
Stepped through the initial setup without setting up a google account (if applicable to the ROM)
Reboot
Let sit for 1 min
Installed AnTuTu Benchmark v2.6 from sdcard.
Ran AnTuTu Benchmark using default settings and selecting /sdcard/external_sd as the sdcard
This is NOT ment to imply one ROM is better than another. It's only intention is to share datapoints. Some of the ROM's are beta as well, so their final release may be different.
My intention is to show how ROMs perform based on the AnTuTu benchmark. I wish to use a ROM that is quick and efficient. Others may appreciate more eye-candy at the cost of performance. To each his own. So I hope some find this data useful.
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Tuesday|Medieval|Midnight| (7136)
DARKSIDE:IGITAL::WARFARE v2.1 (5771)
Dewizzed-V2.5.2 (7045)
And just for kicks, here's my phone, running normally, fully loaded.
* Long time lurker, first time poster since I figured this may be a way to contribute to the forum.
* Also not here to promote any ROM. I'm unaffilliated.

Thanks!
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Uh you know foxstar is the only one you ran at stock speeds? The rest are at 1700. Might want to re run that one.
Also you would have to run each test three to five times to get any sort of meaningful results bc the scores will fluctuate.
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About the clock speeds, I did that on purpose. The purpose was to show the performance of the ROM as the creators intended.
Do you think running it multiple times will make a huge difference? I figured so long as I did the same steps for all ROMs it should reflect a decent standard.
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matthewdavis said:
About the clock speeds, I did that on purpose. The purpose was to show the performance of the ROM as the creators intended.
Do you think running it multiple times will make a huge difference? I figured so long as I did the same steps for all ROMs it should reflect a decent standard.
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You did that on purpose? Interesting. You might want to put in bold the speeds you are running each test on. Seemed like a mistake if you ask me. All of those other roms do not come with default cpu max at 1700MHz.
Also, yes running them multiple times will make a HUGE difference. I have done it when bench marking graphics cards, cpu overclocks and with my phone. Try it....you will be very surprised.

G1ForFun said:
You did that on purpose? Interesting. You might want to put in bold the speeds you are running each test on. Seemed like a mistake if you ask me. All of those other roms do not come with default cpu max at 1700MHz.
Also, yes running them multiple times will make a HUGE difference. I have done it when bench marking graphics cards, cpu overclocks and with my phone. Try it....you will be very surprised.
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Echoing this, Even if it's defaulted to a lower clock speed, you can't leave it that to provide an accurate data set. You also need a large spread, run hem 5 or 10 times and average them.
Even if benchmarks are a little silly in my book, still some interesting data.

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Uh you know foxstar is the only one you ran at stock speeds? The rest are at 1700. Might want to re run that one.
Also you would have to run each test three to five times to get any sort of meaningful results bc the scores will fluctuate.
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Not true. Darkside Warfare was run at 1350.

IMO I think it's pointless unless you clock them at the same speed I mean you have digital warfare under clocked at 1.3 -_- might also want to mention which kernel each 1 is using and at the end of the day it's not about how each 1 scores but how it does in real life use I remember when I used the jugs kernel clocked at 1.89 I believe it scores over 8k easy but would lag on scrolling and other things but faux kernel would score a little over 7k and would run like butter clocked at 1.7. Now I'm using digital warfare with the kernel it comes with and I think it run incredible with speed, smoothness, and battery with good scores
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mavblues said:
Not true. Darkside Warfare was run at 1350.
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Mistake...
I was checking the screens from xda app. Your right.
Regardless...the roms should all be ran at one uniform speed for the best comparison.
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avarize said:
Echoing this, Even if it's defaulted to a lower clock speed, you can't leave it that to provide an accurate data set. You also need a large spread, run hem 5 or 10 times and average them.
Even if benchmarks are a little silly in my book, still some interesting data.
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This is true, however with an asterisk. Running them subsequently will 100% boost scores, mostly because of CPU stepping. Continually running them keeps them clocked at full speeds more often, especially in the beginning.
Also, same clocks please? Use setCPU or something to ensure it. Stock clocks would be appreciated.
Also, run Vellamo benchmark too please. Linpack too lol. And NOT quadrant.
That said, Darkside is the best performer here so far.

2hvy4grvty said:
Also, run Vellamo benchmark too please. Linpack too lol. And NOT quadrant.
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Sorry, that's not going to happen. While I'm still debating how I feel about stock vs a standard clock speeds, I can tell you that I'm not willing to try different benchmarking tools. I feel AnTuTu is modern enough. And I agree with the quadrant comment.

Why not? What else tests browsing performance as thoroughly?
Can we at least agree that despite all the little games and gadgets this phone runs, almost everyone primarily uses the phone to browse the Internet? Antutu does none of that.

Not to defend myself or anything but...
a) for the 10000th time benchmarks are useless
b) benchmarks are useless
c) you ran them after different clock speeds.
d) benchmarks are better for Kernel tests, not rom tests.
e) Australia.

For clarity, the goal wasn't to try to get the highest score. It was to try to put all ROM's (and their included kernels) at the same baseline and see how they perform relative to one another. Not trying to put one over another.
Finding the right ROM can sometimes be a daunting task. Many offer roughly the same features, but just have different appearance. When people don't care about how the ROM looks (with all the different launchers and mods that can be changed after the fact), knowing how it performs out of the box may be the deciding factor.
I know clock speeds are different. Some ROMs opt for lower clock speeds to get better better life. So I thought it would be good to know how that effects its performance.
With that said, would this be useful? Would anyone appreciate seeing how one ROM performs relative to the others?

But what I don't get is you claim that the goal of the thread was to put all ROMs at the same baseline. That didn't happen. Just pointing that out.
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For clarity, the goal wasn't to try to get the highest score. It was to try to put all ROM's (and their included kernels) at the same baseline and see how they perform relative to one another. Not trying to put one over another.
Finding the right ROM can sometimes be a daunting task. Many offer roughly the same features, but just have different appearance. When people don't care about how the ROM looks (with all the different launchers and mods that can be changed after the fact), knowing how it performs out of the box may be the deciding factor.
I know clock speeds are different. Some ROMs opt for lower clock speeds to get better better life. So I thought it would be good to know how that effects its performance.
With that said, would this be useful? Would anyone appreciate seeing how one ROM performs relative to the others?
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I think he means baseline as in the performance you get from untouched roms as the dev intended them to be. This is probably more useful for people that are scared to mess around with overclocking apps..
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But what I don't get is you claim that the goal of the thread was to put all ROMs at the same baseline. That didn't happen. Just pointing that out.
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mixedguy said:
I think he means baseline as in the performance you get from untouched roms as the dev intended them to be. This is probably more useful for people that are scared to mess around with overclocking apps..
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That is correct. The baseline as defined by the authors of the ROMs. If a ROM author decides to underclock it out of the box, I'm not going to modify that.

Benchmark Scores For Non-Stock ROM's

Ive used several ROM's in the past on my Desire so far CM7.1 has had the highest benchmark for me at 1600 to 1700 i thought that to be pretty high but can people post what their highest benchmark is on the Desire, i want to know if 2000 is possible.

Which benchmark tool do you use.
On Antutu I consistently get over 2400.

Why do you care for benchmark scores anyway? The only important thing should be if a rom feels smooth and fast enough for oneself. This personal feeling cannot be shown by a number (no matter how high or low it is).

I was meaning Quadrant not antutu.
Mattdroid I was just wondering because on cm7 I got 1700 but on runnymede aio I get 400 usually which is really slow

With miui Rom and amarulz d2x script I got a 1970 on quadrant but with normal a2sd script on the same Rom quadrant score was 1200 although made no diff to smoothness of Rom
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kiwiflasher said:
With miui Rom and amarulz d2x script I got a 1970 on quadrant but with normal a2sd script on the same Rom quadrant score was 1200 although made no diff to smoothness of Rom
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I can say quadrant score is not really reliable. It's all depends on the ROM setup. It is always at a high score for a data2sd, data2wherever, adx2sdx, int2sd and lower at a2sd and app2sd. It can be lower or higher with some tweaks in int.d.
If I ever need a benchmark, I would go for antutu, with whatever setup it always give more or less the same score for the same ROM.

In my opinion, Linpack will show if the rom is fast or slow. I tried Antutu and Quadrant but the scores do not match how I feel for the roms speed.

[Q] Are there any ROMs that are as fast and fluid as PSX?

I was lucky to break 7k on Quadrant with other ROMs, but I tried PSX for the heck of it and broke 9k and I didn't OC it. :good:
My requirements are simple:
1) KitKat
2) Fast, fluid and everything works with no wi-fi issues.
Anyway, since the PSX thread is closed, I thought I'd ask here.

Start Dling and get busy!! Try them all out and let us know. I for one am sticking with CleanRom, currently at 2.6 with some nice optimizations

Flash the Dalvik patch, and ALL of the AOSP roms will break 9k
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naturecannon said:
Start Dling and get busy!! Try them all out and let us know. I for one am sticking with CleanRom, currently at 2.6 with some nice optimizations
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Thanks, I wish I had that sort of time. FYI I tried CleanROM and liked it, but it wasn't as smooth and fast as I prefer. Plus I had some wi-fi issues with it.
BTW I know that benchmarks are not everything, but I've found the better the benchmarks, the smoother the tablet runs (in general at least) and stability and .
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Thanks. Really? Would it even speed up PSX?

CleanROM 2.6. It's got the Dalvik & Bionic patches baked in:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2383146

jjdavola said:
Thanks, I wish I had that sort of time. FYI I tried CleanROM and liked it, but it wasn't as smooth and fast as I prefer. Plus I had some wi-fi issues with it.
BTW I know that benchmarks are not everything, but I've found the better the benchmarks, the smoother the tablet runs (in general at least) and stability and .
Thanks. Really? Would it even speed up PSX?
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It's highly likely that the patches are baked in.
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aarsyl said:
It's highly likely that the patches are baked in.
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Thanks. You're correct. I checked the Davlik patch thread and it says do not use the patch for PSX. Either way, so far (one whole day:silly I'm very pleased with PSX, I just didn't know if I should go with a more supported and hopefully even faster and smoother ROM.

Just because he closed the thread here doesn't mean he's not still developing. Sources were updated 2 days ago and they have their own forums now.
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Cleanrom latest as of today 4.4.2 and glitch kernel
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Jaw dropping score!!!
BTW, at what clocks were you able to reach that score of 29k?

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Cleanrom latest as of today 4.4.2 and glitch kernel
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Is that real? I tried CleanROM with JB and I was getting maybe 4 to 5k.

xboxfanj said:
Just because he closed the thread here doesn't mean he's not still developing. Sources were updated 2 days ago and they have their own forums now.
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Thanks. Can you point me in the right direction? I did a quick search and couldn't find it.

jjdavola said:
Is that real? I tried CleanROM with JB and I was getting maybe 4 to 5k.
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4 to 5k on what,Antutu or Quadrant? The scores that you see are Antutu scores. Without the patch, the Ron scores about 20k in Antutu, and 5~6k in Quadrant. With the patch, you'll get 24~25k or 9k+ in Antutu and Quadrant respectively. Those scores are with the cpu clocked at 1.5GHz. Overclocking is good for nothing except bragging rights. I haven't seen any task or game that actually benefited from doing that, except benchmarks.
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aarsyl said:
4 to 5k on what,Antutu or Quadrant? The scores that you see are Antutu scores. Without the patch, the Ron scores about 20k in Antutu, and 5~6k in Quadrant. With the patch, you'll get 24~25k or 9k+ in Antutu and Quadrant respectively. Those scores are with the cpu clocked at 1.5GHz. Overclocking is good for nothing except bragging rights. I haven't seen any task or game that actually benefited from doing that, except benchmarks.
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Entirely agree. I have my S4 down clocked from 1.9ghz to 1.5 and have seen no real performance difference lol. I don't play games on it, but I do with my N7 and I never see a hick up with the stock clock.
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aarsyl said:
4 to 5k on what,Antutu or Quadrant? The scores that you see are Antutu scores. Without the patch, the Ron scores about 20k in Antutu, and 5~6k in Quadrant. With the patch, you'll get 24~25k or 9k+ in Antutu and Quadrant respectively. Those scores are with the cpu clocked at 1.5GHz. Overclocking is good for nothing except bragging rights. I haven't seen any task or game that actually benefited from doing that, except benchmarks.
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I was thinking apples (Antutu), but typed oranges (Quadrant). I meant around 17k with Antutu (it was 4 to 5k on Quadrant). I just never personally saw a score over 20k on Antutu until PSX.

jjdavola said:
I was thinking apples (Antutu), but typed oranges (Quadrant). I meant around 17k with Antutu (it was 4 to 5k on Quadrant). I just never personally saw a score over 20k on Antutu until PSX.
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Got 24k antutu on my N7.
On stock with a custom kernel.
Bottom line:
Benchmarks are a load of nonsense and some ROM/kernel developers use 'cheats' to bump scores.
Use your own real life use of the device to decide if you are haply with performance, benchmarks are for fun and nothing else.
If someone quotes a benchmark score in a debate they instantly lose. Simple as that.
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Benchmarks are not useless. They benchmark the actual performance of your cpu , GPU and Ram. These same type of tools are what the manufactures use to test their chips in the lab to tell you a number on the box ( which btw is always underclocked below what it is capable of so that the number on the box is consistent. Most high quality CPUs or GPUs can be overclocked with out a problem. Hell even some computer motherboards and CPUs come with overclocking tools from factory. Benchmarks are not pointless I wish this stupid bandwagon mentality would stop. There is no such thing as a cheat. The CPU either works that fast or it doesn't.

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jjdavola said:
Is that real? I tried CleanROM with JB and I was getting maybe 4 to 5k.
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On CleanROM 2.6 (KitKat 4.4.2) with stock kernel and no overclock, I got 9710 Quadrant and 24385 Antutu.
2.6 has the Dalvik & Bionic patches baked in.

benchmarks
While I do have to agree, benchmarks were mere bragging rights except for this,
Depending on how you look at things.
Benchmarks, were meant to tell you if your device works with specifications. Under performing then you know right away something is wrong.
Also, it might not appeal to some of you but, some people want to get most of what they have performance wise. And tend to look for ways to improve their gadgets. Over clocking? Hell yaeh!! Been there. Nothing wrong with it. It's my device, so what?
But the point is, when some people show you benchmarks scores that were above your reach, don't dismiss it as bragging..
Maybe some of you also braggs about your battery life after down clocking. Hell right?
Give each other respect. If he scores high, and way beyond your reach, so be it. He worked for it. He deserves it.
When he cries over his 5 hour battery life, it's his device.
Go figure.
I love to post benchmarks scores just to know and compare what others are getting with the same scenario to indicate what I'm doing is right on track. My deb scores 12k+ on 3DMark unlimited and 9k+ on extreme. Is that bragging? Hell, no. You don't even know how I came up with such scores, so don't fret.
I was able to find a spot where my device works best. Isn't that a consolation I have to enjoy? With working best, I meant the perfect balance of performance and everything.
And don't you dare say I got it by over clocking the hell out of my tablet. Unless you work for it, over clocking isn't a guarantee for high benchmarks scores.