Hey I was just wondering if it was at all possible to port over the MIUI locscreen and top bar battery to a sense rom. I like MIUI but it just feels too Iphone ish and I love everything that comes in a LeeDroid ROM. The spectrum analyzer in the lockscreen for music looks awesome and I just like the look of it in general and I think the battery being across the whole top of the screen in a thin bar is pretty sweet too.
thanks in advance for any input on this I hope you guys can get something made up
I love the look of the MIUI roms, but my battery didnt last long at all, so I've moved back to a Sense rom now.
My wish is to get the MIUI IME onto this rom, the keyboard in the MIUI is sexy as hell.
Anyone know how to do that?
u can use widget locker if u miss the sense lock screen
BendingBetty said:
I love the look of the MIUI roms, but my battery didnt last long at all, so I've moved back to a Sense rom now.
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Is impossible that Sense rom drain less battery then MIUI (with same preferences).
Some people have terrible battery life with MIUI, and some have excellent battery life. I have somewhere in the middle. Sense always seems to be a bigger battery drain for me though.
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Some people have terrible battery life with MIUI, and some have excellent battery life. I have somewhere in the middle. Sense always seems to be a bigger battery drain for me though.
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this is very strange
The lock screen is tied to the framework or something deep like that, so I think it's hard to do so. But, I'd be happy if someone can do it.
i always have a latest leedroid and a latest MIUI on nandroid, and often switch between the two, i use launcher pro with MIUI as i prefer an app drawer, but out of the two, MIUI has the superior battery life for me.
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Thread moved to General.
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Why moved to general? This was originally a question of porting the MIUI lockscreen and battery indicator over to a sense ROM... i thought the porting of parts of the system and framework between roms would be considered developing...
Not trying to be rude just wanted to know the reason you moved the thread to an area with less developer traffic which will lead to the thread dying out instead of this possibly having a chance to be done.
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Some people have terrible battery life with MIUI, and some have excellent battery life. I have somewhere in the middle. Sense always seems to be a bigger battery drain for me though.
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Yeah, I saw in the MIUI topics that battery life is meant to be a lot better, but not for me. I permanently have WiFi turned on and use my phone mostly for browsing and sms. On MIUI my battery would last about half a day. On aurax sense I'm on 50% after 16 hours.
I know nothing about the Android coding language, but I've got a degree in Delphi and php, will take a look at the difference in code between the 2 on Sunday and hopefully be able to throw something together. Will keep you posted though.
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Yeah, I saw in the MIUI topics that battery life is meant to be a lot better, but not for me. I permanently have WiFi turned on and use my phone mostly for browsing and sms. On MIUI my battery would last about half a day. On aurax sense I'm on 50% after 16 hours.
I know nothing about the Android coding language, but I've got a degree in Delphi and php, will take a look at the difference in code between the 2 on Sunday and hopefully be able to throw something together. Will keep you posted though.
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ok thanks i hope something can get going
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ok thanks i hope something can get going
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Well, without looking at any code, I don't see why it can't be done. The lockscreen is more than likely somewhere in the framework, just need to figure out how to extract it.
Going to try get the keyboard and lockscreen out, because they're really sexy.
Like I said, I will look into it tomorrow when I am home with a pc and a decent internet speed.
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BUMP I'd really like to see that, too. Any ideas so far, Bending Betty? MIUI is really cool, but I just don't like the iPhone style. I didn't come from a 3GS to the Desire to theme my Desire so that it looks like an iPhone. That just doesn't make very much sense...I could make some Icons for MIUI in Photoshop that don't look so iPhone-ish, but the other things are still there. And that's just annoying. Especially the MIUI Lockscreen is really cool.
I love the spectrum analyzer when music is on and the lol of the lockscreen when battery charging n low etc. also love the battery bar across the top of the screen. those are the two main things I'm looking to have ported over.
I'm busy working on it. Will let you guys know how far I get tomorrow sometime. Only got back home 2 hours ago and its 11pm here, so I'm only going to have a chance tomorrow.
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During flash I'm getting one error, quite late in the install. I'm done for the day though, think I'm getting the flu. Will carry on tomorrow. Made a lot of progress today though, has everything you want and everything I think it should have.
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Awesome I can't wait to see how this looks!
Yeah! Can't wait to see it too!
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Okay. Im basically done. Just need to tweak a few things here and there.
Unfortunately because of the way the miui rom is coded you're going to have to downllod my rom, which I've edited to work.
Has no iphone feel to it, most miui components, but i will post a full change log when i up the rom.
I know its not exactly what we were going for, but it is the best i can do right now.
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Related
I see some of you people really do love this rom, I hear some great things about it, but I hear one thing that make me say "why would they leave that out? "
Reasons I'm tempted to try it
- tethering is enabled (like its supposed to be)
-i hear about great battery life
Things I don't like but could get past
-no sense (which means looking for new widgets to mimic the ones in sense)
Reason I haven't taken the plunge
-NO 4G! I live in a 4g area so to not have it available to me is ridiculous! Any word on why it isn't up and running?
So tel me something about cm6 that makes it such a great rom
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for one it's ridiculous fast i haven't used a faster rom. two battery life i've gone two days without charging before and my phone still had some juice. three stock android feels better (just my personal opinion). also 4g is going to be in cm really soon so you might want to just wait for that. hope this helps and i would defiantly recommend you try it.
If 4g is a priority then keep a rom with 4g support. CM is suppose to have 4g support soon though, and I personally love the AOSP look and feel, and not too much Sense.
Soon as 4g is there I'll try it, see what the fuss is about, I like the speed though
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I am betting that the only reason the battery would be better is because there is no sense... and possibly some things are tweaked out of the gate. I get pretty good battery with a sense ROM when I have WiFi enabled and mobile networking not set to be on all the time.
Cm with zendroid or snap is RIDICULOUSLY fast... an I use zendeoid set at 844-245 setcpu and it feels so much better then not just sense but any rom that's not aosp. I could never ever live sense anymore.
A drop of Chuck Norris's semen was placed on the IPhone. We now have the Htc Evo.
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I see some of you people really do love this rom, I hear some great things about it, but I hear one thing that make me say "why would they leave that out? "
Reasons I'm tempted to try it
- tethering is enabled (like its supposed to be)
-i hear about great battery life
Things I don't like but could get past
-no sense (which means looking for new widgets to mimic the ones in sense)
Reason I haven't taken the plunge
-NO 4G! I live in a 4g area so to not have it available to me is ridiculous! Any word on why it isn't up and running?
So tel me something about cm6 that makes it such a great rom
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Just so you know they have 4g working on cm7 it should be released before Christmas... changelog was posted last night for the update...
Most ppl like it because it shows off the evo true capabilities, sense holds it back with so much bloat. The speed is astronomical and battery life is awesome.
Also if you want sense like Widgets just download launcherpro which has the same widgets ..
Hope that shed a little light for you.
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Just so you know they have 4g working on cm7 it should be released before Christmas... changelog was posted last night for the update...
Most ppl like it because it shows off the evo true capabilities, sense holds it back with so much bloat. The speed is astronomical and battery life is awesome.
Also if you want sense like Widgets just download launcherpro which has the same widgets ..
Hope that shed a little light for you.
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Is there any type of app or installation to mimic the facebook contacts being added?
If so, I think that's the next rom I try, but one question, I hear the market doesn't work unless you use something called gapps, what is that and where do I get it from?
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personal experience
I tried CyanogenMod 3 times in the last 3 months and it has never worked as good for me as for the masses, I always thought it was suppost to be the best, I did notice that downloads completed faster but something wasn't right, was always glitchy i could never tell if it was CM or AWD although i hate to say ADW cause until just a couple days ago its been my favorite launcher for a while. when i hit the app drawer the transitions where horrible and not smooth and crashed alot.
Im not fond of the white menu either. last tested on 12/15 it could have been the lastest nightly or stable not sure. I may try it again at another time or when it is a fully functional Rom
Okay that's understandable . Cm almost has 4g and HDMI which would make it fully functional. And gingerbread is also coming soon which will remove the ugly whiteness. And then sense Roms shall be scarce and inferior to the great cm
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Is there any type of app or installation to mimic the facebook contacts being added?
If so, I think that's the next rom I try, but one question, I hear the market doesn't work unless you use something called gapps, what is that and where do I get it from?
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The Facebook app does this on cm6 or any soap rom for that matter. Also gapps is basically making your phone a Google phone instead of just a android phone.
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people like it so its good for them, i have other roms i like that i think is good, the beauty of it is we have top notch dev's supporting our phone, the rest is opinion
ive flashed a couple roms but i have not flashed them all nor do i claim to know everything about every rom but my opinion is that cm6.1.1 is the best rom ive used. its the little things that i like about cm6.1.1. for instance the gestures on the lockscreen was a nice addition, being able to use the menu button to unlock the screen is nice. being able to change what buttons you want in the status bar power widget. being able to hold down the home button and launch any app i want is a nice feature, i personally have that feature set to load itching thumb to give me that webOS feel i miss rom my pre.
the 4g means very little to me i have no need for it. i do live in san antonio and we do have 4g but i rarely used it. i am looking forward to having 4g in the cm update but it is more of a looking forward to what else these devs can do than "omg i have 4g on my phone again." i have no need to need such a fast connection away from my house. if i am going to download something that requires such fast speed i will simply use my laptop.
I use both roms, and they are both extremely well built and made but I've just got a question. I'm not sure if anyone has noticed, or expierenced this. On CM, when I check battery usage, the Android System takes up a majority of the battery. On Virtuous, the good chunk of the battery is taken up by the screen/brightness, with little Android Sytem usage.
Why is this? I'm always eager to learn.
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no repsonse? I suppose i give permission to *close* this thread. Thanks.
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Dude, you only waited a few hours before giving up...Don't worry, someone will come along to answer your question =)
I'm assuming its because of htc sense.
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Cyanogenmod is built from android sorce code. Virtuous is a mod of htc sence as stated. Htc had to mod android to make sence anyway.. its all just about what you like and don't like.
G2 CM6.1.1 (free)
PatrickHuey said:
I use both roms, and they are both extremely well built and made but I've just got a question. I'm not sure if anyone has noticed, or expierenced this. On CM, when I check battery usage, the Android System takes up a majority of the battery. On Virtuous, the good chunk of the battery is taken up by the screen/brightness, with little Android Sytem usage.
Why is this? I'm always eager to learn.
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Don't know the actual cause, but there are lots of posts stating this appears to be a bug in Sense ROMs (display takes a significantly larger percentage of the battery in the usage stats). Most people also say the defect appears to be simply cosmetic, so don't be too concerned.
Hmmmm. Gotcha. I guess it doesn't matter nor is there something we can do about it.
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Exactly, it's like paying taxes
hey guys i have seen alot of forum runners looking fo whick rom is the best because there is so many i for one use calkulin 1.7 and like it alot but which one do you prefer and why?
which one is faster?
which one has better battery life
if it has notification action bar
things like this ill go first
i love calkulins it is pretty fast it does have notification action bar the battery is ok not the best but not the worst but i do wish i can do mirror hdmi out and bluetooth controller control
Wow adlest its not the dev section ....
from my phone duh
ok kool so im not going crazy because if it wasnt for you i might of thought i put it in the dev section.....im sorry i put it in the wrong section you didnt have to be so mean about it
CM7 + Tiamat Kernel = 1day 9hrs battery life. Game over.
Everything working, wifi, 4G, hdmi, ect. Notification power widgets..
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ok kool so im not going crazy because if it wasnt for you i might of thought i put it in the dev section.....im sorry i put it in the wrong section you didnt have to be so mean about it
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Being mean far from it. and you failed again posting this in the dev section
from my phone duh
I'm liking KingsRom R5. fast and stable. stock kernel
Fresh 3.5 bcus it has notification Widgets, goin 2 v4 wen they update, tiamat kernel, matted blue theme but my battery still suks a** lol
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My ROM, it's called Diggler but you wont find it here. Its pretty much the greatest.
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I use SNS1.3, matted blues, netarchy 4.3.1, very stable so far..
12hours battery life with high usage..
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He's new so give the man some slack lol this belongs in the Q&A fourm.
teh roxxorz said:
CM7 + Tiamat Kernel = 1day 9hrs battery life. Game over.
Everything working, wifi, 4G, hdmi, ect. Notification power widgets..
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Are you even using the phone? I'm at 3.5 hours use and down to 50% with that same setup plus the -100mv script.
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Thats a good post...Thats a question I've been meaning to ask as well... Which ROM is the best.. I have the Sprint Lovers Rom bc I all I wanted was to be able to use the phone for its wifi ability instead of paying Sprint $30 for that garbage...
Although it seems my sense based ROM is old (so to speak) bc the Cyn mods deliver really great themes etc... But as you said how is it on the battery, when the evo already has a battery issue and I def dont want to take away from it anymore than I have too...
Do other ROMs use the ability to have other devices connect to it? Is the feature not available? Are there any good sense based themes.. IF so can someone point me to a thread.. ( when using a link please be sure it actually had what im asking) I know how to search havent found much..
So far Ive kept the sprint lovers rom..I have add a custom splash.. but i want to change my dial pad..diff boot animations.. not really seeming any that jump out here.. I would love to create some... Just a lot of questions...
I like the smooth, clean,modern look of some mods Ive seen but afraid to change bc of what i'd lose...
Ideas?
i need a good rom for long term use suggest me for my DEFY...
i need a rom without bugs or min. bugs....will b also good...
plss help...2.2 is sucking (stock)
Thanx in advanced
asn39 said:
i need a good rom for long term use suggest me for my DEFY...
i need a rom without bugs or min. bugs....will b also good...
plss help...2.2 is sucking (stock)
Thanx in advanced
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CM7 IMO, is the best.
LiquidArc Gingerbread is the best, no FC, no strange reboots, stable work.
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LiquidArc Gingerbread is the best, no FC, no strange reboots, stable work.
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how abt battery life in j boogie ??
And whats cm7 IMO ?? i know nly cm 7
Thanxxx both users i will see to that
awesome custom rom
bvbfan said:
LiquidArc Gingerbread is the best, no FC, no strange reboots, stable work.
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I dont know how to install but
The rom is extremely good looking hope in performance too it is that way....
Thanx alot man...let me know how long does ur battery last ??
Thanx to both...of u
For me, it is ms2ginger but I see there's now defy+ rom with same features. Maybe I should give it a try...
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For me it's MIUI or even better WajkIUI.
cm7 works without bugs for me
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For me it's MIUI or even better WajkIUI.
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+1 for wajkiui, I just love it!
CM7 - is better, but battery no so long
Cyanogen mod is the best with no doubt
And for the battery you can install a battery saving app
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Looking for recommendations - Roms& other tweaks
Hi, I hope the OP doesn't mind that I borrow this thread a bit, as this is the exact question I wanted to ask.
tl:dr version:
I am really interested in _opinions_ and _details_ wrt different ROMs (mods or stock) - "xxx is best" isn't a very useful answer to a total noob like me.
So, yesterday I bought this lovely piece of hardware. It came unlocked (of course) and with this ROM (there's a thread about it here):
-System version: Moto_Version.34.177.5.Retail.en.ND
-Firmware: 2.2.2
-Baseband: EPU93_U00.59.1
-Kernel: [email protected] #1
-Build: Jorem_U3_2.4.2_177-5
So far I am rather pleasantly surprised with the lack of bloat. But it did seem rather sluggish when I had installed several apps and played around for a few hours - and the list of running process was horrible.
And I have a feeling I will want Gingerbread in short order (my familiarity with Android is confined to a POS chinese Froyo mini-tablet (had to flash the ROM to even get it to work, then I managed to lose the microSD within it... Haven't taken it apart yet) and looking at my husband's new Samsung G2S - he made me solemnly swear not to root, flash or do anything interesting to it before he even let me touch it).
Or will I?
What I want is
- As much control of the hardware as I can get
(re-assigning buttons (like that to me nearly useless search button), easy ways to turn stuff off and on, customisable quick access to all kinds of interestisting stuff that I hardly even know about yet)
- Minimum of "pretty" UI
- Max battery
- Tweaking off things like wifi and other radio reception, maybe touch-screen too (can one even calibrate capacitative screens? I'm old, and tend to keep my stuff for a long time, so all my previous gadgets have been resistive Palms of various flavours).
And simultaneously I also want:
- As little hassle as I can get away with (ie stable core system which won't need frequent updates).
- Best possible customisation of calendar (and integration with google calendar, of course)
I can't believe it took me so long to finally enter the android world! I can't understand why it took me two years to finally do it. The PalmOS I was in mourning for ("I want my apps from 1995! Why did they break it! I also want wifi! Stupid Palm!") really wasn't worth it.
Nota Bene: I am not a coder or a dev on any platform. I'm a middle aged woman who also happens to be rather fearless when it comes phones. I'm not averse to tweaking a line here and there myself (with instructions or understanding), but generally I get bored pretty quickly with tinkering, and then just want things to work the way I want them to work.
Useless questions in the wrong place (just so I don't give the impression I'm too well behaved - loved the registration video ):
- Where is that "thank you"?! (I've used such on other forums, but I must be blind here. ETA: yes I was.)
- What's the best place (here or elsewhere) to read and ask about a) general android architecture/philosophy/etc (ie what's part of the OS, what can be removed)?
- What's the best place to ask the question "which app would be best for this?"?
- What android-centric forum or subforum would best put up with my wordyness?
I can tell in LiquidArc display eats battery, 3h display is on, battery is down. For other roms i don't know, if someone wants to tell...
Look here -> http://modmymobile.com/forums/640-m...liquidarc-gingerbread-v2-0-09-08-11-a-13.html for installguide
Guys, WajkIui or Cmiui? I tried Cmiui and it is quite nice, but can anyone compare those two plz for me?
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CM7 RC1.5 or MIUI 2.3.5b
for me,CM7 RC1.5 with CEE 179.02 take a long time battery
asn39 said:
how abt battery life in j boogie ??
And whats cm7 IMO ?? i know nly cm 7
Thanxxx both users i will see to that
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That guy means CM7. That IMO means "in my opinion".
Proda said:
Guys, WajkIui or Cmiui? I tried Cmiui and it is quite nice, but can anyone compare those two plz for me?
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Never tried Cmiui but Im surE WIUI is better. It updates every week with a lot of tweaks
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actally I see the MIUI ROM too much unstable with Defy. Cyanogen7 is surely better! I love MIUI UI so I hope it goes better asap!
Bye
I've been using CM7 since a couple of months and have been very happy with the stability. (Presently on cm7 rc 1.5) the stock froyo on the other hand was annoyingly unstable and needed frequent reboots to keep it sane.
The battery life is the only grouse - it lasts around 1.5 days with normal usage. On froyo I could easily get upto 2 days.
Cm7s tweaks and customizations make the trade off in battery life worth it, for me.
To each their own I suppose.
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The amount of tweaking and customisation on CM7 is way ahead of any rom I've ever tried and yes I've tried them all literally. You can shuffle every component of the UI and you've got a new phone everyday, hardware performance is as stable as they come, nice amount of useful apps no added garbage.
If you prefer the curved MIUI look there is a theme for that aswell.
CM7 stands in a league of its own IMO. Battery isn't anything above average(lasts me a day of heavy usage on HSPA network) but it isn't a compromise either.
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Hello peoples, Im looking for new ROM. One that has great batt life, one that will always get sms and mms. Any suggestions? I like sense ROM's and all the goodies that come with them. Also one that I can add my own touch to.
Stickies exist for a reason
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=701245
Yea I know stickes are there, but I want some first hand advice. Not something that was put together over time.
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Yea I know stickes are there, but I want some first hand advice. Not something that was put together over time.
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In that case, the search feature exists for a reason.
**LINK**
Edit: By the way, nobody can tell you what ROM is the best. There are a plethora of ROMs out there. Half the fun of having a rooted phone is to get flash happy with various ROMs. You need to try out different ROM/kernel combinations and find which one has the features you want with the performance and battery sustainability you need. My setup works amazingly well for me. But I've seen people who have the exact same setup and have crap battery life, bugs in their system, or just don't like the UI. It's all user preference. Get flash happy until you find one that works best for you and your style.
for sure mikg 2.58 seneless. i use the no lock version. its legit. beast battery better than aosp and fast. using agressive freedom kernel. everything works.
The new FreshEvo 4.3.1 with the standard Freedom kernel has been giving my two Evo's over 12 hours with heavy usage. It runs smooth as "buddah"...
But it is a personal choice. Fresh is a Sense ROM, which may or may not be to your taste.
psiklone said:
for sure mikg 2.58 seneless. i use the no lock version. its legit. beast battery better than aosp and fast. using agressive freedom kernel. everything works.
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Really? I love my miui setup. It gets a full day from wake up to time I go to bed. I always thought aosp had better battery than sense. I might give Mikg a shot.
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markjc12 said:
Hello peoples, Im looking for new ROM. One that has great batt life, one that will always get sms and mms. Any suggestions? I like sense ROM's and all the goodies that come with them. Also one that I can add my own touch to.
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I run synergy with the carousel mod. has great battery life on my hardware and is the best when it comes to getting text/mms on time. I have tried almost every sense rom that has come out in the past 4 months and keep going back to synergy.
The Blazing Roms team working on FEARDEme and Hybrid really have something sweet going. Granted, they're still in late beta, but if you follow their thread and their site, they really have some great stuff.
HipKat said:
The Blazing Roms team working on FEARDEme and Hybrid really have something sweet going. Granted, they're still in late beta, but if you follow their thread and their site, they really have some great stuff.
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I agree that they are great stuff, I used FEARmede for a while and would still be on it, i just couldnt go without my 4g. If 4g is not a big deal for you then by all means take some of team blazes roms for a ride. Make sure to read the features on all of them, they differ a little from each other.
link to their forum
http://blazing-roms.com/forumdisplay.php/4-EVO-4G
Thank you all for the input and not telling me to search a sticky or that there is this or that for a "reason". You think I havent tried all sorts of ROMs/kernals? I cant tell you how many times I flashed a new ROM/kernal. I was hooked on flashing for a while, damn near had to go to rehab for that shyt. Yes, I know, every phone is different, but I just wanted some first hand advice from my fellow XDA'ers. I really apprecaite the feed back with the replies I got. So thank you all again. Time to get flash happy, woohooo!!!!
try the evo classic v0.0.3 by tommytomatoe one sweet Rom fast as a jackrabbit with a firecracker up his ass and I stay with about 225 RAM with my 7 homesreens full of widgets. and my battery lasts all day I can get 13 or so hrs of screen on time on my 3500 and about 6 or 7 on the stock battery and that's straight screen on almost the entire time cuz I never put my phone down. when I'm not on it all day my 3500 will go 12 plus hrs and be around 75% or so with moderate use but usually I overheat and bootloop b4 my battery dies from playing modern warfare 2 all damn day.