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i just checked and its at 128/413?
is that even normal that doesn't sound right
bongholio said:
i just checked and its at 128/413?
is that even normal that doesn't sound right
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Internal storage?
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Internal storage?
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I think he's talking about the RAM. Android manages memory different than OS X or Windows. Full is actually good. People are always going overboard with task killers trying to free up RAM. Android will free up RAM as necessary, so you really shouldn't ever have to worry about it. Unlike Windows when it gets full it puts memory into swap on the HDD slowing it down. Android will just quit the app, because you haven't used it in a while.
Just for reference I have 246MB available on CM7 with a fresh boot. After using it a few hours, I generally have about 90MB free on average.
Yes I know xp sucks arse.... unforturnetly I have to deal with it...
Anyways how would I go about getting some freed up ram or memory because I need to clear out some junk and rather not take a shot in the dark and end something dangerous. So any suggestions other tan get windows 7 will be greatly appreciated I know disk cleanup and defreagment are useful but is there anything else?
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Post on a windows xp forum...
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Post on a windows xp forum...
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That's pretty messed up...
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I haven't used XP for a while (other than at work, where I am not responsible) but, I think Start -> run -> msconfig.msc might help you out. You can disable anything you want during startup. You can probably also tell what you are disabling because it will tell you the path to the executable. After turning a bunch of stuff off, reboot and see where you are at.
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That's pretty messed up...
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Thank you I was going to say it but I hopedi wasn't in the wrong I was really just seeing if people in my backyard knew how to trim some trees so to speak
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I haven't used XP for a while (other than at work, where I am not responsible) but, I think Start -> run -> msconfig.msc might help you out. You can disable anything you want during startup. You can probably also tell what you are disabling because it will tell you the path to the executable. After turning a bunch of stuff off, reboot and see where you are at.
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Do you think adding to the virtual memory heap would help I only have a gig of ram and 2 gb of vm so far wuld more be helpful? I have a lot of hard drive storage something like 160 or so, anyways ill look at the processes
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Do you think adding to the virtual memory heap would help I only have a gig of ram and 2 gb of vm so far wuld more be helpful? I have a lot of hard drive storage something like 160 or so, anyways ill look at the processes
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I am sure you already know this, but virtual memory is much, much slower than hardware RAM. That said, increasing virtual memory probably won't speed up your system, but will allow for additional multitasking (running more programs). Windows does a pretty good job at managing the virtual memory and keeping the more accessed information in real memory.
In short, I don't believe that increasing your virtual memory will make much of a difference. 2GB should be plenty. Additionally, if you are using a 32-bit version, Windows can not access more than 4GB of RAM (including video RAM, and hardware RAM) and that limitation may include virtual memory. Typically, 3GB is about all you can use with a 32-bit OS.
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Thanks I know a ton about my phone but hardly anything about my computer its odd. Anyways ill look into that msconfig and let you know what I come up with I was hoping for something similar to a task manager/memory cleaner here on android
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Thanks I know a ton about my phone but hardly anything about my computer its odd. Anyways ill look into that msconfig and let you know what I come up with I was hoping for something similar to a task manager/memory cleaner here on android
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The task manager... right click on start bar (not on a button or application) and start taskmanager. All applications have an associated process but not all processes have associated applications (at least applications with a GUI). From the process list, which will have what you want to get rid of, you will probably have to google each process name to determine what it is and how to get rid of it and if it is safe to do so. When I do a fresh XP install with anti virus and a minimal application set, I have somewhere around 40 total processes.
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The task manager... right click on start bar (not on a button or application) and start taskmanager. All applications have an associated process but not all processes have associated applications (at least applications with a GUI). From the process list, which will have what you want to get rid of, you will probably have to google each process name to determine what it is and how to get rid of it and if it is safe to do so. When I do a fresh XP install with anti virus and a minimal application set, I have somewhere around 40 total processes.
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Got about 52.... not bad I guess but is this bad?
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Got about 52.... not bad I guess but is this bad?
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That looks pretty good. One thing to remember is that "cached" physical memory is almost free memory. The operating system has files and other data that is cached in RAM for quick access but can easily be dumped to make room for new information.
So, now the question is, what is the problem/symptoms that you are trying to solve?
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I haven't used XP for a while (other than at work, where I am not responsible) but, I think Start -> run -> msconfig.msc might help you out. You can disable anything you want during startup. You can probably also tell what you are disabling because it will tell you the path to the executable. After turning a bunch of stuff off, reboot and see where you are at.
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Msconfig is really meant as more of a trouble shooting tool. It's not proper to use it as a maintenance tool. If there's anything that you want to disable at startup you really ought to handle it in that particular programs options. Or consoder uninstalling tje program entirely.
Better than the stock windows defragment is a program called defraggler.
Also, you might try a windows XP forum. I think they would be better help.
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That looks pretty good. One thing to remember is that "cached" physical memory is almost free memory. The operating system has files and other data that is cached in RAM for quick access but can easily be dumped to make room for new information.
So, now the question is, what is the problem/symptoms that you are trying to solve?
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Well according to y'all its not my memory I guess I'm running the cpu more than it can handle its a guitar program in basic terms it turns my computer into an amplifier if you need to know its POD Farm 2 and when I try to add a "dual" which is like using two different amp setups it chops the sounds and won't work correctly and was thinking it was my memory not being able to free up the needed ram but I guess my lil 1.3ghz cpu isn't cutting it
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Xp has been very solid. Upgrade your hardware and do a clean install of xp. I'm running 7 on an older hp laptop and its been awesome.
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I'm not familiar with that program, but I would lean toward it not being your ram. You say that's a 1.3ghz. How many cores?
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Xp has been very solid. Upgrade your hardware and do a clean install of xp. I'm running 7 on an older hp laptop and its been awesome.
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There's 'natural' fragmentation of files that happens over time that a defrag'er can't always fix. A clean install is kind of like the ultimate defrag'er in that sense.
p.s. sorry about the double post.
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I'm not familiar with that program, but I would lean toward it not being your ram. You say that's a 1.3ghz. How many cores?
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Its a single I'm sure but ill let you when I find out...
I'm assuming its a single since it doesn't say dual or quad
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i've used this for a basis of streamlining the programs and processes that run on all my windows based pc's (i'm a sys admin for about 300+ pc's as well as my main gaming pc at home)
http://www.blackviper.com/category/guides/windows-xp/
The site used to have just a whole long list that you had to manually go and disable or set to manual yourself, now they've made it easier..
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If u look at some prior threads, he also helped u out!
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Since I had such good results last time I posted about a pc I was wondering something else.
My mother uses her pc for work and it requires certain system files that work like a network or a passage to her works servers. Something in system32...idk anyways... I was wondering if it were possible to image her pc and flash it onto the new pc I'm going to be getting. If not She really just needs xp on it and needs internet explorer 6 and her word 2003 it has a lot of auto corrections/ shortcuts in it. The system files can be put on it by her tech support. Basically she needs xp on her new pc with her internet explorer 6 and word. What would be the easiest way to do so?
I know I could find internet explorer 6 somewhere.
Also for the word I could transfer the auto corrections to the newest word 2010 but I hear it has to be done for each auto correction and she has upwards of 500 hundred.
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I've been curious about this for quite some time now. Our phone has 768mb of total ram space. I've noticed AOSP roms allow 602mb to be used and Sense gives 573mb. Is it possible to substitute system memory for ram enabling more free ram for our device?
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I've been curious about this for quite some time now. Our phone has 768mb of total ram space. I've noticed AOSP roms allow 602mb to be used and Sense gives 573mb. Is it possible to substitute system memory for ram enabling more free ram for our device?
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Substitute system memory for ram? You mean like a pagefile on windoze? Or just freeing up more ram? Not really following what you mean.
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Ok I know "x" amount of ram is required to run a rom. What I wanna know is can any of that be transferred into say the system memory so that instead of having only 573mb of 768mb we could have something like say 625mb of our 768mb? I guess I should of clarified earlier.
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Ok I know "x" amount of ram is required to run a rom. What I wanna know is can any of that be transferred into say the system memory so that instead of having only 573mb of 768mb we could have something like say 625mb of our 768mb? I guess I should of clarified earlier.
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Like for example, virtual memory in windows, it uses the hard drive to hold running processes, though it may be slower....it works....sort of lol
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Like for example, virtual memory in windows, it uses the hard drive to hold running processes, though it may be slower....it works....sort of lol
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Yes like vm in windows. So it wouldn't speed up our phones if this was done? That is what I was trying to accomplish by all of this in the first place. I figured if I was able to make the RAM larger in size overall that would in turn allow bigger apps to run smoother. I know there's a lot more at play like processor speed and kernel but its just a thought
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Yes like vm in windows. So it wouldn't speed up our phones if this was done? That is what I was trying to accomplish by all of this in the first place. I figured if I was able to make the RAM larger in size overall that would in turn allow bigger apps to run smoother. I know there's a lot more at play like processor speed and kernel but its just a thought
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I'm not saying it will run slower, I don't have the knowledge to tell you if it would improve things or not. Just making it easier to understand
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Haven't really looked at it, but it depends on whether we use up all the RAM often, and I don't think we do.
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I think NO.. we can only adjust CPU frequency though
My knowledge of linux is very limited, but I think that you are thinking of it too much like Windows. In Windows more free ram means better performance. That is because Windows doesn't kill processes that aren't being used when ram is needed, instead it uses vm to allow the program to run.Android will kill processes that aren't in use if additional ram is needed so vm is not necessary. This means that performance isn't really effected by free ram.
Someone please correct me if I'm wrong here.
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My knowledge of linux is very limited, but I think that you are thinking of it too much like Windows. In Windows more free ram means better performance. That is because Windows doesn't kill processes that aren't being used when ram is needed, instead it uses vm to allow the program to run.Android will kill processes that aren't in use if additional ram is needed so vm is not necessary. This means that performance isn't really effected by free ram.
Someone please correct me if I'm wrong here.
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I also thought the other way before. But after some googling I also found that linux is something like that.
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cstone1991 said:
My knowledge of linux is very limited, but I think that you are thinking of it too much like Windows. In Windows more free ram means better performance. That is because Windows doesn't kill processes that aren't being used when ram is needed, instead it uses vm to allow the program to run.Android will kill processes that aren't in use if additional ram is needed so vm is not necessary. This means that performance isn't really effected by free ram.
Someone please correct me if I'm wrong here.
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After a crash course in Linux over the past couple days I've learned that u r right my friend. I guess I was to caught up in thinking it was like windows.
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After a crash course in Linux over the past couple days I've learned that u r right my friend. I guess I was to caught up in thinking it was like windows.
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No worries. I think most people here think the same way because most of us use Windows. I wouldn't have known differently if I hadn't read it previously on here. That's the same reason why task killers are bad.
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I'm in love with Linux 2 home computers run it and my laptop duel boots Ubuntu and windows 7. Great combo. Never owned a Mac probably never will. Also haven't messed with cron ( is that right) in Linux/android) but hear good things.
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Android puts background processes that arent running in the foreground in cache memory, that way it's not eating up ram like if it was still running but since its in the cache, if you open the program though it will still come up quickly since it is cached, only certain programs that are frequently used are like that though...
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So I can't get this to work. ... anyone know why? Something about storage emulator. ...
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I have to ask.. why? My GN2 shows that I have 9.3 GB free... I understand the need for this on the older devices like the OG EVO where int storage was scarce but on our kind of devices with so much memory... what is the point?
Really? It's pretty common knowledge that Google removed that functionality from Jelly Bean.
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http://galaxynote2root.com/galaxy-n...sd-card-with-rooted-galaxy-note-2-app2sd-mod/
works great
i bought a 64gb class 10 sdcard and followed that video (can't put links yet) but someone posted the link in this thread and it's working great.
I did have some trouble moving the apps, but i am a noob with android, I just uninstalled it all and re-downloaded them on playstore (couldn't figureout titanium pro) it downloaded on the new 64gb, all the apps run great i didn't notice any lag at all, everything seems to be downloading to the 64gb I'm HAPPY!
Well I stand corrected.
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What's common knowledge to one obviously isn't too another. Thanks for those that have given passive feedback .
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Really? It's pretty common knowledge that Google removed that functionality from Jelly Bean.
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I suppose it's more of a piece of ming thing. I guess I just don't feel comfy when I'm limited. In the end of I can't get it to work if be Ok. ... I just like having the option
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I also like to have the option and I am glad to see that it can be done.
I got a 64gig card as well, and really don't see the point using apps2sd anymore. 10gb free on the phone is a lot of apps, but I'm also a pretty light user compared to most.
Unfortunately, running you SD card as internal memory puts a tremendous amount of strain on the card. There's a high chance of corruption at some point in time, then you're screwed. I prefer something like https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.slf.ListglApp
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i bought a 64gb class 10 sdcard and followed that video (can't put links yet) but someone posted the link in this thread and it's working great.
I did have some trouble moving the apps, but i am a noob with android, I just uninstalled it all and re-downloaded them on playstore (couldn't figureout titanium pro) it downloaded on the new 64gb, all the apps run great i didn't notice any lag at all, everything seems to be downloading to the 64gb I'm HAPPY!
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If you pull the card will it automatically swap to internal?
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Unfortunately, running you SD card as internal memory puts a tremendous amount of strain on the card. There's a high chance of corruption at some point in time, then you're screwed. I prefer something like https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.slf.ListglApp
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will check this out....i got the out of space notification this morning
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Hey guys so when in my storage options it does not adequately reflect my storage availability I'm wondering if this is normal. This only represents about 4-5 gigs being used but only 700mb available. Is this normal? I honestly don't have that much on my internal but it is running low faster than it should be. Just wanted to know if this is normal.
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I would venture to say that's not normal... Try an app called "Disk Usage" and see what exactly is taking up the space.
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I would venture to say that's not normal... Try an app called "Disk Usage" and see what exactly is taking up the space.
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Im having the same problem and I used that app and its saying for me that system data is 7.2gb is that normal?
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Julianmgn said:
Im having the same problem and I used that app and its saying for me that system data is 7.2gb is that normal?
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No thats not normal. mine is at 523mb
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No thats not normal. mine is at 523mb
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Any suggestions?
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Any suggestions?
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No, I really dont have any. Sorry. Are you sure that is the amount of storage that the system data folder is using?
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No, I really dont have any. Sorry. Are you sure that is the amount of storage that the system data folder is using?
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Well I guess im not really sure. Thats what the app said.
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Well I guess im not really sure. Thats what the app said.
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Yeah, seems correct. Do you have a Galaxy S4 or are you on a different device?
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Yeah, seems correct. Do you have a Galaxy S4 or are you on a different device?
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Yeah I have galaxy s4 from tmobile.
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Now what exactly could cause the system data to soar to 7GB? Have you tried exploring around the directories to see exactly what files or directories are abnormally large?
Op-is your device rooted
Backups may be the issue then.
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Thanks for all the responses I just got a chance to look at this I'll take a look at that app and see what I get. What kinda backups are we talking? Because I haven't intentionally backed anything up. And I am rooted yes
Edit: currently running wicked v4 but have had a few before that with same circumstances. I always factory reset, wipe cache, dalvik cache.
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Thanks for all the responses I just got a chance to look at this I'll take a look at that app and see what I get. What kinda backups are we talking? Because I haven't intentionally backed anything up. And I am rooted yes
Edit: currently running wicked v4 but have had a few before that with same circumstances. I always factory reset, wipe cache, dalvik cache.
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I havent looked through my directory but I will today.
And im also running wicked v4 and have also had this problem before.
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I've looked through everything, and using the disk space app, showed about 5.7 gigs to system. Went through system couldn't find specifics as the culprit or what I could remove to make space. Is there any type of reset that'd clean it up, like a Odin flash? I'm usually better with these things but this is just odd and outta character for me.
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I think I found the problem I was wondering wtf was going on... Everything has been different folder setup in cwm than before when I go to flash from SD card I get 0, legacy, and one other folder. Well... I found a folder in my system called emulated... It's basically two extra copies of my entire internal system. Anyone know where this came from? And how to prevent it from reoccurring? It shows updated today. Please correct me if this is not the issue... Gonna try deleting it will post after
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Well... That only deleted everything on my internal SD... Wtf so strange. My internal SDcard showed like 2.7 gigs taken up the 'emulated: legacy and 0' folders were exactly 2.7 gigs each... Leading to the theory these were copies of the internal SD but when deleted they took the internal with them, now it shows I have 3.3 gigs avail and one being used... Outta 9+ gigs... Wtf ha
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Ok so I figured out that its was my nandroid backups that where taking up all the space. Especially my nandroid of stock.
Its under data/media/clockwork
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Ok so I figured out that its was my nandroid backups that where taking up all the space. Especially my nandroid of stock.
Its under data/media/clockwork
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Idk if it's my es file explorer but there's nothing in the data folder, I checked the 'show hidden files' too let me know if any other jnfo
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Idk if it's my es file explorer but there's nothing in the data folder, I checked the 'show hidden files' too let me know if any other jnfo
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I used root explorer, I got the paid version
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Figured it out... Wish I'd have waited 5 min before deleting all my internal storage haha I wonder if there's an easy way to restore that crap...
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