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After examining the Voip.CAB I can post some consideration:
The Voip cab provides some dlls, an xml file and add some reg values, no exe to run. There is no way to use SIP features until we get a Radio rom wm6 version.
the dlls interacts with the RADIO rom, giving the apropriate setting in the Options screen of Phone setting, and they give the Today plugin too.
The ipdialplan.xml is the Dial Plan that owr Phone app will use to know when it must use regular GSM line or IP phone service, taking a look inside you will see the patterns and the standard SIP "Dial" command (Advanced users of sjphone will easily understand), example: for calling user 911 on the server microsoft.com you'll use Dial command like: SIP:[email protected]
By now, the only thing that we need is an interface.
Maybe Microsoft has decided to put SIP features to their standard Phone app, and I agree with this, because this will be more simple to use and trasparent to the user: The Dialplan will decide about the LCR (Low Cost Routing)
Hope to see a Radio-wm6-rom capable soon ,)
Bummer!
The main reason I flashed my ROM was that I thought there was an integrated SIP client!
So do you think when this happens we will only need to reflash the radio ROM?
I reeeeealy need this as SJPhone is OK but not integrated and a bit of a bloat...
Maybe
I heard about a Chinese Radio Rom that came with the vanilla version of the WM6 build that many of us have flashed.. If I could get it..
VOIP
Just use Skype, works fine!
Cheers, Leo
Well, thanks for that constructive answer... It's as if someone was asking for a way to get his car running with a missing part and you say "Why, just use a motorbike!" Sure, Skype gets the job done, but it is years away from being a flexible and truly usable solution on the PPC. And that's putting it nicely. Skype is just a pain to use for any serious mobile telephony. An integrated SIP client with the capability to choose the provider I want beats Skype to the bandwidth hogging pulp that it really is. So let's all hope that there will be a radio rom that allows us to use SIP soon ~
Ooops!
Sorry about that, sometimes I can be such aaa....
It wasn't my intention!
Cheers, Leo
Falk said:
Well, thanks for that constructive answer... It's as if someone was asking for a way to get his car running with a missing part and you say "Why, just use a motorbike!" Sure, Skype gets the job done, but it is years away from being a flexible and truly usable solution on the PPC. And that's putting it nicely. Skype is just a pain to use for any serious mobile telephony. An integrated SIP client with the capability to choose the provider I want beats Skype to the bandwidth hogging pulp that it really is. So let's all hope that there will be a radio rom that allows us to use SIP soon ~
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Skype
I agree, it would be nice to have the SIP client.
But I find it unfair to criticize Skype. Has any of you tried the latest version (2.2) on a Wizard running WM6. It's amazingggggggg. Works smoothly and has far more options than will any SIP client for quiet many years...
Ciao,
Antoine
Hi guys. kept reading forums but seems there isn't proper solution about voip on wm phones. i'm trying to findout if there is (or can be put on) native support for voip on wm5/6. my mate has nokia e65 and it has native support for it works perfect. you can actuall use normal phone as voip phone.
any one knows is it possible?
nolovelust said:
Hi guys. kept reading forums but seems there isn't proper solution about voip on wm phones. i'm trying to findout if there is (or can be put on) native support for voip on wm5/6. my mate has nokia e65 and it has native support for it works perfect. you can actuall use normal phone as voip phone.
any one knows is it possible?
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Balck 2.0 has it built in already and there are cab dile for install under WM^ not sure about WM5. Search and ye shall find.
No Native Support for WM5 . WM6 Thread for VOIP and how to make it work are here:
{SOLVED} How to configure VoIP/SIP client in WM6.
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Hello guys
I'll be the first to admit this is a newbie question, but I don't have the energy to try every ROM and every SIP solution, can someone recommend a WM6 SIP solution thats working for them, ideally I want to use the built in WM6 SIP system as an additional app is just a bit clumsy.
Cheers, this information is invaluable for a lot of people I imagine, I want to go install AX3Ls but it mentions it doens't do SIP.
Thanks again
Ed
With a 30 secs search, you would have found (among others) this, for the native SIP capabiliy:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=316853&highlight=shaps
For an external, more complete and stable application, try Sjphone -> google
riri22 said:
With a 30 secs search, you would have found (among others) this, for the native SIP capabiliy:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=316853&highlight=shaps
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This is just a voip config tool, package is missing over there.
And even if this guy is at his first post, his question is a good question and I can not answer: I don't know any rom for trinity with a serious voip capability.
Ciao
Is the VOIP support built into every build of WM6 then? You just need to install a cab and config tool to get it up and running?
I'd really like to here peoples experiences, I'm not aiming for anything to adventurous just want it to hook up to a voip service when it sees my wifi.
Cheers
Ed
edpgc said:
Is the VOIP support built into every build of WM6 then? You just need to install a cab and config tool to get it up and running?
I'd really like to here peoples experiences, I'm not aiming for anything to adventurous just want it to hook up to a voip service when it sees my wifi.
Cheers
Ed
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You can find a post full of reply here with a lot of information...
I'm still using fring for voip calls because with trinity and wm6 there is a problem with a driver. But some people say voip is fully functional for them.. but as to me they don't really use it.
Voip support in built into wm6, but OEM have to provide their drivers and dopod didn't released it.
Ciao
claros said:
This is just a voip config tool, package is missing over there.
And even if this guy is at his first post, his question is a good question and I can not answer: I don't know any rom for trinity with a serious voip capability.
Ciao
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The package of dll etc. is already present on wm6. Most of the people who dont see it is because they haven't activated their explorer to see all files. But if you think it's necessary for some ROM, not the Dopod one I can confirm, the wm6VoIP.cab package is everywhere on the forum...
Nobody said his question was bad or wrong, I just said that a universal config tool and feature package was available on the forum, and findable after a quick search.
As far as which ROM is best for VoIP, I think nobody has tried the hundred of ROM available to give an objective and comprehensive answer.
As far as I am concerned, I tried VoIP on only one ROM, the dopod one. It works not too bad, but just as a complementary feature as he said himself.
Third party's sofware with all the complete package and optimisation will always works better. That's why I suggested Sjphone...
Anything wrong with me answering that?
I'm using fring as well at the moment. It's pretty cool. Works with skype too!
I've heard that Fring wasn't working on Trinity, due to mic problems.
Can you confirm that the other person can hear you well, when calling landlines with Fring?
(using Fring SIP features)
riri22 said:
The package of dll etc. is already present on wm6. Most of the people who dont see it is because they haven't activated their explorer to see all files. But if you think it's necessary for some ROM, not the Dopod one I can confirm, the wm6VoIP.cab package is everywhere on the forum...
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Hum...
I never use explorer.... Actually I don't have an official dopod rom but I can do a search on all the files on the extracted rom. Please have a look at the attachment.
Ciao
never heard of fring until now, its very neat, a bit cosmetically confused, but should be a very neat solution!
claros said:
Hum...
I never use explorer.... Actually I don't have an official dopod rom but I can find a search on all the included files on the extracted rom. Please have a look at the attachment
Ciao
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Yeah, I see that. But all I can say is that, once installed, when I browse the windows main directory, I can find all the files listed as necessary for the native SIP feature to work.
ipdialplan.xml
dnsapi.dll
voipphonecanvas.dll
rtcdll.dll
Dopod SEA inside
But that's not the point anyway, as I said, there are something like 10 differents threads that includes the pack wm6voip.cab for those who don't have the sip files natively. And it's findable with a 30 secs search...
But u'll need also the configuration tool to set up your sip account.
riri22 said:
I've heard that Fring wasn't working on Trinity, due to mic problems.
Can you confirm that the other person can hear you well, when calling landlines with Fring?
(using Fring SIP features)
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It is still a beta I think but seem to work, even if it is very slow especially if you have a lot of contacts to import. But sjphone doesn't have this feature.
Both (fring and sjphone) lacks of dialplan and number rewriting rules.
I think you have installed vm6voip in your dopod, so you can find voip files. If we had a really working rtcdll.dll for trinity we shouldn't use such programs for internet telephony. If you think I'm wrong, please post your rtcdll.dll so I can check version and functions.
As to me Dopod, as a gsm carrier, didn't provide this package for customers. I hope in the future htc wwe release it will be present.
Ciao
claros said:
It is still a beta I think but seem to work, even if it is very slow especially if you have a lot of contacts to import. But sjphone doesn't have this feature.
Both (fring and sjphone) lacks of dialplan and number rewriting rules.
I think you have installed vm6voip in your dopod, so you can find voip files. If we had a really working rtcdll.dll for trinity we shouldn't use such programs for internet telephony. If you think I'm wrong, please post your rtcdll.dll so I can check version and functions.
As to me Dopod, as a gsm carrier, didn't provide this package for customers. I hope in the future htc wwe release it will be present.
Ciao
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I've never said native SIP was working great on Trinity, I've just said the contrary: as the first poster of the thread stated, it can only be an alternative solution, but the third parties software (with all features AND optimizations included will always work better)
The reason is very simple:
It's not only a matter of rtcdll, it has more to do with the settings, specially the codecs one.
It is possible to fix though, but then It requires many additional tweaks, and I don't think it's worth the effort, since the third parties sofwares are there and working.
P.S.: I don't understand why you are so insistant on one file...
there are 4 of them dedicated to native SIP service. As I said, I think I had them all, before installing wm6voip.cab patches.
But the point is for any one missing one of them, or leazy to check, there are 10 wm6voip.cab on this forum to get them all installed in one click.
As I stated before: wm6voip.cab, and several SIP configuration tools are available on the forum.
After trying some of them, I like the shap's one and suggested it to the author of the thread.
But I confirm: none of them as perfect-already-ready-sound-quality
U need to tweak your codecs, according to your SIP provider requirements.
claros said:
It is still a beta I think but seem to work, even if it is very slow especially if you have a lot of contacts to import. But sjphone doesn't have this feature.
Both (fring and sjphone) lacks of dialplan and number rewriting rules.
I think you have installed vm6voip in your dopod, so you can find voip files. If we had a really working rtcdll.dll for trinity we shouldn't use such programs for internet telephony. If you think I'm wrong, please post your rtcdll.dll so I can check version and functions.
As to me Dopod, as a gsm carrier, didn't provide this package for customers. I hope in the future htc wwe release it will be present.
Ciao
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I don't think so.
For having tried both, I can confirm Fring do have number rewriting rules. It works great.
(my sip provider requires the numbers to start with 00. My contacts are recorded with + not 00.
Therefore, when I use the regular dialpad and native SIP features, it gives me an error.
But when I use Fring, it convert the numbers automatically, and and I can call through.
My only concern with Fring, was to make sure that the other person can hear me when I use the SIP features.
I don't have the confirmation. When I use the test call feature, It doesn't seem to hear me and cannot record my voice.
Since my account is not credited (big bug with the provider console on the net) I can't make sure about it.
Except if there is someone using voipbdiscount wanting to test.
Bye
I found that fring works fine. I haven't tried sip through it as yet but the fring test call worked fine (test call is just like the Skype test call).
It is pretty easy to download and test it anyway. Very easy to set up. I tried some other sip software recently and found them all far too complex to get up and running.
Thanks for the info.
I may try again and see whether or not the test-call feature can record my voice this time.
Yeah, Fring is simple to set up and it's great to have msn/skype/and sip provider in the same interface.
I strongly disagree that the Trinity problem is codec related. I tried different VOIP solutions with 4 SIP providers and NONE of them gave me reliable results.
I still hope the final HTC WM6 will include proper VOIP since I seriously doubt your "its the codec's fault"-story.
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I strongly disagree that the Trinity problem is codec related. I tried different VOIP solutions with 4 SIP providers and NONE of them gave me reliable results.
I still hope the final HTC WM6 will include proper VOIP since I seriously doubt your "its the codec's fault"-story.
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Sorry but inside the official european tytn wm6 there is no voip support.
As tytn and trin are brother I dubt voip will be supported on an official htc european rom, if any...
As to me, from past investigations, the problem is on an audio driver that can not access the system speaker, but the system modify itself after first use and I cant understand why...
I've found some device identifier in the registry under RTC, seem to work only by earpiece and locks if I try to use a bt earpiece..
Can't remember anything else, and I haven't enough time to investigate more...
Ciao
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Hi,
i am using a SIP client based on WM6_VoIPfiles_SIPconfig and BB4.0 WM6 version. when i try to connect to a sip server it says Service not available.
can any one help me out whats the error, and also if there are any open source SIP client for WM6 BB4.0 compatible version pleasee let me know.
thanking you,
gondI.
SjPhone
gondi said:
Hi,
i am using a SIP client based on WM6_VoIPfiles_SIPconfig and BB4.0 WM6 version. when i try to connect to a sip server it says Service not available.
can any one help me out whats the error, and also if there are any open source SIP client for WM6 BB4.0 compatible version pleasee let me know.
thanking you,
gondI.
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Hello!
If you are still interrested, there is SjPhone (http://www.sjlabs.com/sjp.html).
I have the one for WM2003 and it is working excellent.
Br,
Yotis
Try Fring. It's free and very stable. Also works with Skype, ICQ, MSN and some other IM services. Has excellent SIP support. I'm using it with VOIP Buster Pro
http://www.fring.com/
Basically one of the coolest utils I've seen so far and only 400 kb in size
TheOnly1 said:
Try Fring. It's free and very stable. Also works with Skype, ICQ, MSN and some other IM services. Has excellent SIP support. I'm using it with VOIP Buster Pro
http://www.fring.com/
Basically one of the coolest utils I've seen so far and only 400 kb in size
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wow, Fring is awsum!! thanks very much
TheOnly1 said:
Try Fring. It's free and very stable. Also works with Skype, ICQ, MSN and some other IM services. Has excellent SIP support. I'm using it with VOIP Buster Pro
http://www.fring.com/
Basically one of the coolest utils I've seen so far and only 400 kb in size
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Hello
Can you help me to set VoIP Buster Pro on my E71 Nokia with fring, I does not work...
Best wishes
NL
FRING is bad!
TheOnly1 said:
Try Fring. It's free and very stable. Also works with Skype, ICQ, MSN and some other IM services. Has excellent SIP support. I'm using it with VOIP Buster Pro
http://www.fring.com/
Basically one of the coolest utils I've seen so far and only 400 kb in size
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i don't like FRING - you send them your passwords as CLEAR Text!!! and all of your communications are passing their servers without encryption. That's the man in the middle ....
so i would like to prefer a "real" SIP client. Do you know a good one?
I need a skype for my P3600. In the web of skype there isn´t any version for this device.
Thanks
I usually use Skype on my P3600 WM6!!
What version? Thank´s
Skype 2.2 for Windows Mobile!! It is the only one avaible on Spype site web
http://www.skype.com/go/getskype-pocketpc-cab
mlrm said:
I need a skype for my P3600. In the web of skype there isn´t any version for this device.
Thanks
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If the latest version 2.2 doesn't work (some said yes, but I found it no), try this older version 2.1 which works at least in my HTC P3600i.
get this from Post #12 in this thread; I failed to upload here.
http://www.modaco.com/content/HTC-Trinity-Trinity-MoDaCo-com/257861/Orange-SPV-M700-and-Skype-2-1/;
the latest working version for P3600 is 2.20.0.18
But camera didn't worki
skype 2.1
only skype 2.1 work on Trinity WM6 (version: 2.0.0.51)
download : http://www.4shared.com/file/27820605/340ce2b6/SkypeForPocketPC21.html
Only the beta
mlrm said:
I need a skype for my P3600. In the web of skype there isn´t any version for this device.
Thanks
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The HTC P3600 only works with Skype beta!!!!!
Version 2.1
A lot of thanks, Version 2.1 OK.
i will try 2.1 now
Does Skype work with bluetooth headsets?
In case someone needs it,here it is.
With camera?
No webcam functions.
If you don't need the skype interface, I find fring (http://www.fring.com) is a very good alternative. It has low memory requirement and can work with MSN, Google talk, etc.
ckleea said:
No webcam functions.
If you don't need the skype interface, I find fring (http://www.fring.com) is a very good alternative. It has low memory requirement and can work with MSN, Google talk, etc.
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Yep, Fring is a very good alternative, for the reason you said, and also because it makes it possible to use several messengers at the same time, including a SIP service...
And you can also have VOICE conversation on messengers that don't allows it on mobile phones: Live messenger (only voiceclip no voice chat), ICQ etc.
The only problem i found with Fring is that you can't change your status and be (busy, away, hidden etc.) so it's not very convenient because when you are busy with one contacts, other contacts from all your other messengers keep sending messages etc...
Sound over speaker
I have just tried skype 2.2.037 which runs well except the sound comes from the loudspeaker. Any fix for this yet, or perhaps some other software that uses the earpiece?
I tried Fring but it did not give a very clear sound (also from the loudspeaker) very broken and crackley.
any suggestions please
riri22 said:
Yep, Fring is a very good alternative, for the reason you said, and also because it makes it possible to use several messengers at the same time, including a SIP service...
And you can also have VOICE conversation on messengers that don't allows it on mobile phones: Live messenger (only voiceclip no voice chat), ICQ etc.
The only problem i found with Fring is that you can't change your status and be (busy, away, hidden etc.) so it's not very convenient because when you are busy with one contacts, other contacts from all your other messengers keep sending messages etc...
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With fring the audio comes only through the external speaker, and not the earspeaker... do you have this issue as well?
mlrm said:
A lot of thanks, Version 2.1 OK.
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Do you get Video with 2.1?
Skype 2.1.0.65
pls check Skype 2.1.0.65
download: http://download.html.it/software/getit/2693/skype-for-pocket-pc/