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For AT&T users looking for a Desire, now is the time

The European/Asian version (A8181) won't work with AT&T 3G network, and the Australian version (A8183, Telstra branded) will work with AT&T 3G network as long as you are in the 850Mhz coverage area. From what I've heard, 850Mhz coverage includes all major cities. While I can't comment for your area, I can tell you that my A8183 works perfectly fine with AT&T 3G network in Chicago. AT&T has also stated that they are migrating all their 3G network to 850Mhz, leaving 1900Mhz only of EDGE.
Anyway, all of the info above can be found in other threads, what I want to add here is that Australian Dollars are dropping like CRAZY and it is now the great opportunity for you AT&T US users to buy the Desire from Australia.
Every US sellers have been selling this AT&T 3G compatible model on eBay for at least USD700, some even over USD800. There is this Australian eBay seller has been selling a few Desire for AUD700 each, and (although not listed in the auction, but you can ask him) he charges around AUD50 to ship to the US using EMS.
I bought mine from this seller around two weeks ago, with a total of roughly AUD 750, which, at the exchange that time, was about USD 700. Two weeks later, today, I was curious and searched "Telstra Desire" on eBay again and found that this seller still has a few A8183 model for sale, again at AUD 700 each. The difference? Now AUD has fallen SO much that AUD 750 costs only about USD 620~630... So if I had waited for two months, I could have saved 70 bucks!
Anyhow, I wrote this just to let you AT&T users to know that you don't have to pay $800 to get a AT&T compatible Desire. Just go to eBay and serach "Telstra Desire" and you will find the Australian seller I am talking about. He shipped pretty quickly, and with EMS if only take a few days to come to the US. The only problem I had in the process was that my phone was held by the US custom for a week, FOR NO REASON! When my phone arrived, the package showed no sign that it was inspected by the custom. Perhaps the custom was just too lazy and decided to take a week off processing packages.
Btw, in case you wonder, roms that work on the A8181 model work fine on the A8183. I followed the rooting procedure on Modaco forum, and installed Modaco custom rom r3 on my A8183 without any problem.

Yoz
Hah I think we think alike dude cause I got one from the same seller if I think you know? This the same guy?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=320534188327
$578.06 + $49 Ship = $627 shipped for me ($49 Australia to STL, MO)
Not bad at all, especially for people that thought only option was an n1.
only 2 left now...
check the dudes Telestra's 850mhz HD2 also.. cheap! (Approximately US $660.64)
Best part is I get to make a nice chunk of that back with the sale of my old mint 8125 wizard and 8925 kaiser. cheers dude

Yup I bought my Desire from him.
Don't know how he get the Desire so cheap though, he is selling them cheaper than Telstra sells them. Before I bought the Desire from him, I was going to ask my friend in Australia to get the Desire from Telstra for me. But then Telstra was (and still is) selling it for AUD 779 (+ tax) w/o contract
http://www.telstra.com.au/shop/personal/Mobile-MobilePhones-HTCDesire?SMSESSION=NO
which was too for me.
I pick that Desire over the N1 because (a) I don't like the track ball, (b) I prefer physical button, and (c) I think the Desire looks better (personal preference). I have experience with rooting and flashing custom roms, and I knew the hardwares of the N1 and the Desire are similar enough that roms for one can be ported to the other within days. So even though I knew that the N1 would get new updates quicker, while the Desire has Sense (which I really love), this is not really an issue for me.
But I wasn't ready to pay $800 for (a)-(c) above, and luckily I found this seller on eBay. Given how cheap the AUD is these days, this is now an even sweeter deal.

Sweetness
Well that's great news im stoked to get mine then. I checked out the r3 release over at modaco looks mint as well will root and give that a shot after a week or so. You liking it how much bloatware in the telestra rom just curious?
I'm coming from my super old 8125 wizard (didn't need to upgrade) to this, so it should be rather sweet. I got mine out of contract cause i'm not on data plan and I don't need it (but have the option down the road) They will not add data to your service either if you're out of contract (4yrs out of contract here hah) many people have misconception of that.
Anyways it used to be even more greater savings it appears check out some of the feedbacks dude sold some HD2s for like $520 unlocked NIB. craziness gotta love those aussies on 850 data!
AS for how he gets them so cheap, I doubt he's able to sell with the auctions, just some copy/paste specs. I'm sure most people abroad think it's a scam. (Obviously not if you got yours, and he has 98% positive feedback at 238) Took me a good 15 mins to check it out, I was debating.
The guys name is SHIAUYI MA. Non-US verified on PAYPAL though so good to go completely safe. I will say i've been trying to get ahold of them with no response besides the paypal invoice. (had correct shipping and address though so looked good)

well
now there's only 1 left in the guys inventory, someone else jumped on it. The items in the pics are actual it appears check out the telestra symbol, as well the guy seems to sell a lot of gaming consoles and other tech to AU only with pics on the same wood table and such.
It was $760AU ($627USD) on my Paypal invoice yesterday morning ($60AU for shipping = $49USD) so yeah you're right tsekh501, as of today Aussie rates are great for us if you paid $750AU and it was actually $700 just 2 months ago.
I think i'll even take it over to the local AT&T and ask when the desire's coming out for us AT&T users
I have always had windows mobile, but have been fortunate of enough the past two months or so to use a lot of the recent Android builds for Kaiser, using donut and eclair 2.1 (at least runs well) I know the OS pretty well now. I dig it and was ready for the real thing. let's put that extra 64mb of ram over the N1 to use! Cheers
*Update
Seller responded last night, and it appears 4 more were sold as well after posting the link on here. Glad to have helped anyone out snagging one for cheap.
"Dear atom311,
Yes, It is how much australia post charges for int' express post to US.
Normally it takes 1-3 business days.
And your item should be ready to go out on Monday.
Thanks
- yoyopopo1214"

i was one of the guys that got this. the seller seems a bit hard to get a hold of, but i will reserve any judgement until i get the phone. i asked him when he was shipping the phone and could supply me with a tracking number and he replied that he shipped via int' express post and would follow up with a tracking number, which strikes me as odd because it shouldn't have been very hard to have included the number in that message. i'm sure he's a legit seller, i think he just lacks some customer service skills. maybe i'm just getting antsy because my kaiser got smoked over the weekend and i need a phone.

He is legit. I bought one form him and has been using it very happily since last week.
He doesn't communicate very well though. It took him more than a day to get back to me with the shipping quote, and when my package got stuck in LAX custom (which was NOT the seller's fault, btw) I emailed him to see if he knew what was happening but he didn't reply at all.
The phone is legit and the shipping is very quick (minus the stuck at custom part, which can happen to anything shipped from outside the US. If the package had gone through the custom within a day, tha phone could have arrived in 3 days), however.

yeah, before buying i went through his feedback and figured he's a legit seller, just wish he could work on his service skills a bit more.... oh well, i guess that's the price to pay for getting something at a cheaper price. can't reallly expect too much seeing as he's selling for less than telstra. if you don't mind me asking where in the US are you located at tsekh501?

fakts13 said:
yeah, before buying i went through his feedback and figured he's a legit seller, just wish he could work on his service skills a bit more.... oh well, i guess that's the price to pay for getting something at a cheaper price. can't reallly expect too much seeing as he's selling for less than telstra. if you don't mind me asking where in the US are you located at tsekh501?
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Chicago, but somehow the phone landed at LAX.

Yoz
got mine today, perfect mint condition, NIB, never opened like stated. from Australia to St. Louis (Middle of the USA) in 4 days... sweetness! Anyways all is mint, dude is legit, I suggest keeping him on your favorites pages, see what he gets now and then, could actually make some dough in the US. Anyways, Im more than happy, they come like stated. 2GB SD for Telestra.
They'll probably all land at LAX of course, its the biggest and closest port to our Aussie pals
btw custom report shows David Huang as the shipper for anyone wondering

Nice!
Hello guys,
I bought a HTC HD2 to him on monday and I did a little research of the seller. That's amazing I got all your comments in xda
His communication is not that well but I hope it arrives before next monday.
Sorry this is not the right forum for my experience

shortage of desire?

hi folks,
the network i'm on in ireland are telling me they cant get any new desire for at least two weeks.. that there's a europe wide shortage? any stock issues elsewhere?
Cheers,
Mick

Yeah, I had to wait 3 weeks for mine from Vodafone, although admittedly the volcano didn't help.
It seems like other people are having problems with Vodafone, looks as though HTC underestimated the Desire's popularity.

Got it in Holland, didn't have to wait they had a couple of desires left. The guy told me they sell very well, so I wouldn't be surprised if they ran out of desires before ordering new ones.

The same situation applies in Greece too.
HTC Desire is not available through any carriers, or even online shops
which usually provide cellphones much earlier than official shops.

First I ordered it online they told me I had to wait 4 weeks. Since I didn´t want to do that. Than I called a shop and asked if they had it in stock. They just had one left! So rushed to the shop and bought mine

Yeah, it's been selling out everywhere. I got mine in Dublin on the day Meteor released it, I had to ring 4 different stores because they were booked out in most places. I got the second last one they had in stock in Grafton Street (and they only got them in around mid-morning).
And apparently Vodafone and O2 hadn't even planned on stocking it until their customers kicked up a huge fuss on the forums... I guess they were concerned about it eating into 3GS sales. Although maybe I'm giving their business acumen a little too much credit there... the way these guys operate in this country it wouldn't surprise me if they just couldn't have been bothered. Wonder how many customers O2 and Voda lost due to Meteor jumping in ahead of them with the Desire. (Me, for one!)

There goes a possible answer...

Clove.co.uk have been out of stock for weeks. Their last shipment was completely taken up by existing pre-orders, and (opinion) the same may happen with the current shipment too (due about the end of this week, exact arrival date tbc)
play.com claim to have stock - but I think they are fibbing
So, on the one hand, "Yay" for the Desire.
On the other hand, "C'mon, HTC [& samsung]! Get a move on! (but make sure you glue down the screens properly )"

Vodafone NL had a notice in the online shop saying it's not available for 4 weeks. Glad i got mine by mail the day it was released

Tis good news.
Well from HTC's point, you can't not update to 2.2 as the sheer amount of people buying them. IF the nexus one stays as the 2.2 Desire then sales will fall as people buy them instead.
So I am hopeful of June 23rd

Yo I got mine at the very beginning in Hong Kong with a hkd200 which is around 30 usd higher than the original price.
Luckily I made a decision to take it from the store otherwise I might have to wait for five days to two weeks for the phone.
Desire, what a great name.
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Clove.co.uk seem to be fulfilling pre-orders
As far as I can tell, clove started dispatching pre-ordered Desires yesterday (2/6/2010).
Their site still says "Stock delayed until the first week of June. Exact arrival date to be confirmed" but they probably recieved enough to cover some of the existing orders in the pipeline (mine included!)

I bought mine online as well got it had it for two weeks, but I had to send mine for repair, inner earpiece stopped working, and they said they need to replace it, also saying there is shortage have to wait a week or two, not to sure.

diablous said:
Tis good news.
Well from HTC's point, you can't not update to 2.2 as the sheer amount of people buying them. IF the nexus one stays as the 2.2 Desire then sales will fall as people buy them instead.
So I am hopeful of June 23rd
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Yes, I think you are right. A big desire user base will definitely help ensure (a) future update(s). Bad after sales support for a large user base will also mean large public backlash when people are starting to lose faith in htc their support.

There's definitely a shortage going on. Virgin Mobile (UK) have said that there's a stock shortage on the Desire in particular and it will be ongoing through the WHOLE of June and MOST of July (Probably the whole of July, they said).
They're getting a small shipment in on the 7th, but it's a VERY small shipment. So small, they're no longer selling them on anything less than 30ppm contracts! And that's only to existing Virgin MEDIA contract holders.
Glad I got mine when I did lol

AT&T trying to dump inventory? $.01 Tilt2.

Looks like Windows Mobile is about to be dead on AT&T.

well, part of the reason is that winmo 7 is about to come out sometimes end of the year so it's only make sense that they are dumping these phones. Also with newer and faster phones released, it's time for them to dump the older phone.

paid nearly full price for mine this past week...

Bbasso said:
paid nearly full price for mine this past week...
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Many carriers have a 30 day return option, no questions asked.

Not anymore....there all sold out already!! I think they may have been $.01 because they didn't have a camera according to the AT&T website.
From description on AT&T:
"HTC Tilt(TM) 2 (Non-Camera)"

Why would I want to return mine?
The Tilt2 I got has a camera...

Amazon
Check Amazon - I bought my Tilt 2 from them about 3 months ago for $0.01. At that time the cheapest AT&T had them for was around a $100.

I got mine off of eBay for $175 no contract in early July. It was refurbished by AT&T and had the screen saver sticker on it. So far looks a functions like new.
I'll now have problems since I posted this.

I think it is WM that they are getting rid of. I just used my parent's upgrade to get the Tilt2 for $0.01.
While I was there, I did some comparing of prices. All of the WM phones were that same price. The Androids were more of a typical upgrade price.

Tilt 2
Been using my 8125 forever, I was thinking of the Tilt2.
Didn't know there was a version without a camera.
The web site shows no activation fee too.
Should I wait?

jcterry said:
I think it is WM that they are getting rid of. I just used my parent's upgrade to get the Tilt2 for $0.01.
While I was there, I did some comparing of prices. All of the WM phones were that same price. The Androids were more of a typical upgrade price.
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Yup, the sale is on WM devices. When I go to ATT's website, and go to Shop>Cell Phones & Devices, there is an ad for "Window Mobile 1 cent sale". They still have the Samsung Jack and Tilt2 (with camera) on sale. It also lists the HP Glisten and LG Expo, but shown as "sold out".

othater said:
Should I wait?
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I wouldn't. Like redpoint73 said, the HP and LG were sold out. I think it won't be long until the Tilt2 is sold out also.

I upgraded my line less than a month ago to a 3GS so that I could sell it to pay for a Nexus One. I logged into my account a few days ago and it let me order a Tilt 2 for free as an upgrade......less than a month after upgrading already It's shipped and arriving tomorrow. Now I just need to decide if I'm going to sell it brand new or keep it and play around with some of the great Custom Roms from XDA!

I just bought my current tilt2 months ago, and ATT just let me upgrade my phone right now. I just got myself another tilt2 for $18.01!!! Ebay here I come!

I got mine for $.01 and it has the camera

After a three year hiatus from this site and almost a two year blackberry bender, I'm back to windows mobile with the $0.01 HTC Tilt2
I would of liked an android model but my corporate plan doesn't support them yet.

Ordered mine today (8/4/10) for .01 as well, went back to check on status of order- said they were on back order. When I went to check my upgrade options all the prices of everything had gone back up, and Tilt2 w/Camera said sold out. I've been waiting awhile to order this thing and finally caught a break, if this whole thing goes south... well I guess I won't be too upset but what the heck! I'll just save up and order an unlocked HD2

I got mine 2wks ago for $99.99. I called yesterday to get them to price match. They would only take it down to $9.99 instead of $0.01.. I didnt feel like arguing so I'm now waiting to see the credit show up on my cc.

Mine has a camera, was a .01 and HTC is giving me $100 for my old....old...SX66

KentuckyGunGuy said:
Mine has a camera, was a .01 and HTC is giving me $100 for my old....old...SX66
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are they still running that promo? I got rid of an old working tornado and got 100 bones for it as well

Where to buy WP7 handsets in London tomorrow?

I've heard next to nothing about who/where will be stocking Windows Phone handsets at launch tomorrow morning ... the only thing I've heard is the Orange store Oxford Street will be opening at 7am.
Anybody have news on who'll have SIM free HTC WP7 handsets tomorrow??

I've been trying to track down sim-free handsets myself and the best I've come up with is the Dell Venue Pro which is available to order from Clove, for delivery on the 8th November.
It's proving to be quite difficult to find sim-free phones, especially ones with a keyboard.
No news on high-street stores selling sim-free.

This is really annoying actually...
Big announcement from Microsoft 21st October lanuch in Europe !!! but no Carriers appear to be launching tomorrow... I called Orange the MAIN LAUNCH PARTNER and they say HTC Mozart next week and Samsung Omnia (Orange name will be Cetus) by the end of October... Their STAFF HAVE NO CLUE about WP7 and no details about 8gb or 16gb memory or prices or specific dates etc etc... They just said Nokia N8 confirmed for Friday and New HTC Androids also next week... F$%K knows whats going on!! ....... really good start Microsoft !!!!

I dont know about london but i know the Orange store in london is getting both omnia 7 and the mazart in tomorrow both are 8gb. The Fareham store (town nearer to me) said they will have stock arriving today for sale tomorrow but did not know what they where getting as it depends what there sent from main office.
I have seen some sim free deals around but cant remember off my head where as i will need a contract boo to being poor lol

O2UK have the HD7 in their "Coming Soon" list. Apparently expected 21st Oct
http://www.o2.co.uk/comingsoon/hd7

I called the Orange Store in Croydon they have no idea if WP7 handsets will be there tomorrow....

Thanks for all your replies - sadly it doesn't look like I've missed any launch day availability information then ... it certainly is frustrating.
I suspect pre-ordering online and waiting a few weeks for most of the handsets to ship will be the best option ... unfortunately.
Still hope to be surprised though!

Where are the phones?????

The situation with WP7 is embarrassing.
Here in Italy HTC is doing a bad impression. I ordered the HD7 eXpansys up two weeks ago and every day, every day I say, they change the date of delivery.
Even today the new availability date is December 4.
December 4?? But are they crazy?? How MS is hoping to succeed if they do not leave the phones?
I have a P3600, a TYTNII, a Diamond and HD2, but At this point I think my next phone will be a Nokia N8.
Frankly I feel cheated. And bored.

There are 10 different devices and tons of carriers.
I really don't see your logic of hating on the devices and WP7 just because you are being screwed by whoever you ordered it from.
You only have that company to blame for the shipping delays.
I walked in to a Best Buy here in the US on launch day and picked up a Surround.

teoami said:
There are 10 different devices and tons of carriers.
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Here in Italy only 1 phone: LG Optimus (do not ever buy).
teoami said:
I walked in to a Best Buy here in the US on launch day and picked up a Surround.
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Here in Italy on the launch day there was no WP7 phones in stores.
And every day all the stores change the availability day: said yesterday that it would be available on 29th november, and today the 4th of december. Two days ago they said it would be available in 4 days...ALL the stores, not one.

But, from my experience, this is the case of all new release highend smartphones. The Desire HD changed from incoming week 45 to "longer delivery time" in week 45, and my Omnia 7 have changed from week 44, to week 45 and they're saying week 46 right now.

Just be patient, hardware is obviously selling through and that is a good thing!

I can't wait....

yes, this situation is horrible.. i am in Slovakia, waiting for my Omnia 7!!!!!!!! No phones at all here, I checked online stores in Czech republic - the same...Its more than a month after official release.

Expansys USA has Unlocked Samsung Focus and HTC HD7 in stock and ready for shipment for 599 and 699 USD respectively..
Edit: They also have almost every other phone from WP7 Unlocked and ships within 3 days..

The irony is that although Europe had the first launch 2 weeks in advance it's still under US when it comes to availability. To get my HD7 I surfed 3 weeks like crazy on eBay to get a good deal (eventually made it) and when I asked all my country's carriers about WP7 they were like "What's up with that?!" so going-randomly-in-a-shop-to-pic-a-WP7 will happen mostly in late December/January.
Maybe some sort of "conspiracy" for the Early '11 update

This is the answer from HTC:
Recently you wrote about the release date of HD 6, but here we inform that the terminal should be in business, then I suggest you start to do the check with our resellers: http://www.htc.com/it/ where_to_buy.aspx
FIRST: I wrote about HD7, not HD6...what the hell is the HD6?
and SECOND: No! I checked all the on-line store (and in some cases I went in the store of my town) and the HD7 is not available....maybe I should ask the HD6?

HD7
Hi,
here in Czech Republic, you can buy only HTC Trophy...
Nobody has the clue when will other phones arrive