Anyone on Three Uk having signal problems (2g) ?? - Desire General

I have my Desire on Three UK network. It used to fall back to a 2G signal when there was no 3g coverage, for example when I am at home.
I noticed yesterday that my phone just wouldn't get a signal in the house, I then checked my old N95 which still has a Three Uk sim card and same problem.
Anyway I went to work and same issue inside the office. Can get a 3g signal when there is one but no 2g signal.
I deceided to phone up Three customer service to see if there was a fault or something but no real help there apart from they said they would report what I said to their technical team.
I then come home and look on the net and see things like this....
http://www.gogadgetnews.com/2010/11/08/3-starts-killing-off-2g-coverage/
Is anyone else experiencing similar problems ?
If they have switched of 2g here then I am fuming as it means I cant receive any calls at home !!

The 3 network hate to 2 use 2g because thay have to pay 02 to piggy back on there network
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tidy said:
The 3 network hate to 2 use 2g because thay have to pay 02 to piggy back on there network
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They used to use O2, but they switched to Orange some years ago.
If you no longer get a signal at home or work you may be able to get out of your contract.
Regards,
Dave

Yes. so much so i have got out of my contract eary without penatly, over the last 6 months the 3g transmiter works for a few days every time thay fix it.

Thay have turned off 2g now a quick look on Google will fill you in with the information.

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No 3G or H Signals

Hi Guys, Had my Desire a couple of days now, contract with TMobile, UK and so far not once have I ever been able to receive a full 3g or H connection. I have travelled a radius of five miles around my home, still no joy. Connects to wifi ok but can only receive g signal out and about,making data and internet painfully slow as to become unuseable. My phone is connected to mobile network in settings. I am seriously considering returning phone under 7 day policy if this persists. Any solutions would be much appreciated.
Other phones with other carriers in my area work ok and according to TMobile web coverage checker states I live in good reception area.
Cheers.
It's possible your sim is faulty happened to my mum when she got her diamond
Joshseadog said:
Hi Guys, Had my Desire a couple of days now, contract with TMobile, UK and so far not once have I ever been able to receive a full 3g or H connection. I have travelled a radius of five miles around my home, still no joy. Connects to wifi ok but can only receive g signal out and about,making data and internet painfully slow as to become unuseable. My phone is connected to mobile network in settings. I am seriously considering returning phone under 7 day policy if this persists. Any solutions would be much appreciated.
Other phones with other carriers in my area work ok and according to TMobile web coverage checker states I live in good reception area.
Cheers.
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Try a different handset when they get them instore, might be a device fault.
Check your coverage? Make sure phone settings are set to dual and not just GSM only. I get none at work or home whatsoever. But the coverage checker tells me this anyway.
Joshseadog said:
Hi Guys, Had my Desire a couple of days now, contract with TMobile, UK and so far not once have I ever been able to receive a full 3g or H connection. I have travelled a radius of five miles around my home, still no joy. Connects to wifi ok but can only receive g signal out and about,making data and internet painfully slow as to become unuseable. My phone is connected to mobile network in settings. I am seriously considering returning phone under 7 day policy if this persists. Any solutions would be much appreciated.
Other phones with other carriers in my area work ok and according to TMobile web coverage checker states I live in good reception area.
Cheers.
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Probably a stupid question but have you been on the T-Mobile website and put in your postcode to check the coverage in your area>?
Incase you haven't: http://www.t-mobile.co.uk/services/coverage/street-check/
Hope that helps...
and obviously make sure you have 3g on your account?
I'm with orange, and was told i only had a 2g sim card. it took 3 different customer service people until one agreed to send a new 3g one. Not a problem since.
I had a very similar issue.
For the first 2 days i had my handset, it picked up no 3G or H data ATALL. Like you travelled around in about 5/6 mile radius and got nothing. I called up and cancelled, no one told me why or how it could happen, so i proceeded to cancel.
The next morning, i picked the handset up as i was going out, and to my surprise there it was sitting on 3G. Now the night before, i played with just about every setting under Settings > Wireless & Networks > Mobile Networks, Network Mode/Network operators, always-on mobile connection, the lot. Took the sim out, rebooted the phone. messing with those options, or possibly turning them on or off for a specific amount of time may have affected my phone.
The same day i poped into a T-Mobile store where the woman told me hat it could have been down to the SIM not being fully activated, incase a postman stole it for whatever reason.. However, once i got back home i called T-Mobile up again, to cancel the cancelation, which was easy as pie. I told him what i was told in-store he looked up my account and said nothing should have changed as it should have been good to go from the 26th (i received it 29th). I had also noticed just before calling T-Mobile, that 150 from my mobile phone would not connect to T-Mobile, because of that the guy on the phone reset some stuff on ym account their end, told me to reboot my phone, and since then, i've had 3G/H flawlessly and 150 works without problem.
Maybe give them a call and they can help you. Or play with those settings like mad.
I should say ive had randon data drop outs and disconnections even in good signal areas not sure if its normal or my sim or phone
Hi Guys, Thanks for the input. Problem now solved, TMobile re sent connection settings down to my phone, now solid 3g or H around my area except indoors or close to my house. Now very happy, am now starting to love this phone.
Cheers

Q for vodafone UK users...

Anyone got 3G reception at all? My phone is 2G only all the time even though I live in a 3G area. It's set to GSM and whatever the other is auto so I would've thought it should change when it can?
do you have a 3g sim?
Yes as I've just taken it from my HD2
May/may not be relevant:
I have just taken out a contract with TMobile. Their Street Check tool (which allows you to view 2G/3G service in your area) said "Good" for 3G, however when I put my new sim in the Desire at home I was only getting a 2G connection. Was not happy.
Now, a few days later, I am getting 3-4 bars of 3G at home. I don't know what has changed, whether it was a network issue or a handset issue.
Sorry, I know that doesn't help you but I thought I'd share anyway!
After all that, just got 'H' in my flat so perhaps it was a SIM card issue?? Weird...happy though!!

T-mobile UK - Poor or no data connection under 3G

So i've had the HTC Desire for a week now and i'm starting to think there's either an issue with the phone or with the T-mobile (UK) network.
When the phone shows 'H' , browsing the net, downloading, or using the marketplace is a snap.
However, when this dips to 3G, either no data seems to be relayed to the phone or it does so incredibly slowly.
This means, web pages or marketplace often ask me to retry as no data connection is available.
I don't think it's a signal strength issue as i have 3bars when connecting under 3G.
Has anyone else experienced this?
*(worth noting that i got the latest OTA update pushed out today , and still have the issue)
*(Posted this in the UK tmobile forum too, to see if tmob have anything to say)
ninjakettle said:
So i've had the HTC Desire for a week now and i'm starting to think there's either an issue with the phone or with the T-mobile (UK) network.
When the phone shows 'H' , browsing the net, downloading, or using the marketplace is a snap.
However, when this dips to 3G, either no data seems to be relayed to the phone or it does so incredibly slowly.
This means, web pages or marketplace often ask me to retry as no data connection is available.
I don't think it's a signal strength issue as i have 3bars when connecting under 3G.
Has anyone else experienced this?
*(worth noting that i got the latest OTA update pushed out today , and still have the issue)
*(Posted this in the UK tmobile forum too, to see if tmob have anything to say)
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It is the Network.
Hero / G2 owners have had lot's of issues and last week I was in Europe with my Desire and I had 100% perfect connection 99% on H Speed (even on the underground!)
Came back here and 3G simply does not work anywhere near as good or actually at all!
H or G2 only it seems.
T-Mobile Customer Service feel that not having 3G is fine and acceptable as you are not paying for 3G and they are meeting their requirements of providing the ability to make calls, send text's and have net acces via 2G.
- cheers for that info. I've actually seen the issues with the G2 (hero) you mention on the Tmob forums. Can't believe so many users are being ignored.
Just disgraceful. I wish i knew this before signing up with them. I can't get H in my office, only 3G and it's useless
Is this network issue location specific, or does it affect of the UK? Presumably London or another major city shouldn't have this issue.
I live and work in central london.
Calll TM up I had a new QOS policy applied to my account and also I was told the MMS settings were affecting my speed.. I used speedtest.net app to see what speed I had no more than 300k on both 3G and HSPDA.. It is now fluctuating between 1500k and 2300k
They are still looking in to my issue thats why it keeps fluctuating..
Defo worth giving them a call
any updates ninjak?
i was VERY tempted to get T-mobile deal on this but now im not so certain...
Hmmm, my connection has been perfect no connection drops...ironic my BT line has gone fault (pretty much dead) and im using my Desire to tether internet on t-mobiles network till they come fix my landline on monday...so yeah no problems here
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Hmmm, my connection has been perfect no connection drops...ironic my BT line has gone fault (pretty much dead) and im using my Desire to tether internet on t-mobiles network till they come fix my landline on monday...so yeah no problems here
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Where abouts in Manchester are you based? The coverage in my neck of the woods is shady to say the least.
Central......Ardwick (Apollo Theatre)
Having the same issues on T-Mobile Netherlands lately. It already started with my G2. But with the Desire I constantly need to retry... Let's hope we don't have faulty handsets...
I don't seem to have any problems downloading when I have the 3g or H symbol, but occasionally those symbols disappear altogether suggesting the mobile network option is turned off, but its not and it still shows 3/4 bars suggesting it has a signal. I had to reset my phone this afternoon so I could actually use data, bit annoying really.
^ sorry double post..
anyone in milton keynes? with first hand experience?
Can anyone confirm what actually happens when you lose connection to the net via 3G?
My browser has "hung" a few times - page will stop loading, and neither a refresh choosing a link from bookmarks will work. In fact this stops my browsing completely - even using Advance Task Killer to kill the browser doesn't solve the problem, and I have to reboot the phone.
Are these the symptoms people are seeing here, or something else? I didnt notice at the time whether I had the 3G symbok, or the H.
T-Mobile is really bad network i was stuck with them for 18 months on my G1 poor mobile internet and phone signal, once i download some app for it, which tells you with a noise when you loose your signal. omg had to uninstall the app becasue it went off so many times. Now on vodafone with my HTC Desire much better in the warrington (in middle of manchester and liverpool) area. A while back my dad said T-Mobile used to be that bad he had to go into the garden to make a call..
There seems to be something wrong with the settings IMO.
HSDPA is nowhere near as fast as it should be I don't think. There was a topic saying if you change the APN you get faster internet but I didn't try it.
Does anyone have the TMobile handset, but flashed a generic ROM?
Does this problem still exist with the generic ROM?
I want to stay with TMobile as the prices are easily better than anyone else, but NOT if this internet/data problem persists. I would rather pay the extra £100 to Vodafone over the course of 18mths to get solid data connection.
I will be rooting my phone when the method is made public/reliable etc, so want to know if this problem goes away.
setspeed said:
Does anyone have the TMobile handset, but flashed a generic ROM?
Does this problem still exist with the generic ROM?
I want to stay with TMobile as the prices are easily better than anyone else, but NOT if this internet/data problem persists. I would rather pay the extra £100 to Vodafone over the course of 18mths to get solid data connection.
I will be rooting my phone when the method is made public/reliable etc, so want to know if this problem goes away.
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snap this Question needs an answer please
Anyone else looking forward to the T-Mobile Orange merger? Hopefully I'll end up with Orange's coverage on their street checker, haha.
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HTC Desire on Orange Network

Is anyone else having massive problems with the Orange Network in UK? My Desires signal is weak a majority of the time, if any signal at all and mobile network poor. Is it just me or is there a tweak for my phone to make the signal stronger? After chatting to a mate who has a Samsung Galaxy S, he has the same problem with Orange so i'm wondering if it is the network?
not sure probably depends on your area. One thing as Orange and t-mobile have merged in the UK you can use the t-mobile network as well as orange without additional charge.
http://help.orange.co.uk/orangeuk/support/personal/Signal-sharing
It's the network being rubbish as they're trying to merge T-Mobile and Orange. Mine is coming and going all the time and has been like that for a while. Will end up leaving them when my contract finishes as they used to have the best signal where I live.
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Something similar happened for me at home at the start of the year. Previously I had decent EDGE coverage.
Then signal came and went, all data came and went and now I have passable GPRS only. Good thing I also have decent wifi.
Long story short - its probably a signal 'upgrade' to do with the T mobile merger. One of the features of the merger is rationalisation of cells - or switching them off to you and me.
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Most likely it is Orange. Earlier this year I ring them up about 5 times complaining about the same issue. Tbh it never got dealt with but it ironed itself out. I'm not happy with Orange anyway so when my contract ends I will be changing.
Swyped...
Make sure your phone is set to auto network select...not manual ..
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Cheers guys. I think i'll be leaving Orange at the end of the contract. I notice that since the t-mobile merger my signal has got much worse.
Definitely a problem for me too, i am using a stock Desire bought sim free and get a really poor signal but my mate has an Orange branded Desire with an older firmware and gets a much better signal so may be a problem with newer rom updates.
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I found out something very interesting today.I'm on tmobile and when my phone picks up the orange signal it only a 2g signal.They don't tell you that when you sign up.I'm not sure but it might be the same set up visa versa and that would explain the signal problems.For now I have selected tmobile only and things have been better and I noticed a difference straight away.Tmobile has a message on the Customer Service line saying that sometime in the near future we will be able to use orange 3g as well,though i'm not sure if that means orange customers can use tmobile 3g,although I should think it would..
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Same for Orange, they said we will be able to pick up T-mobile 3G signal sometime in the future.........until then, when the Orange signal is ****, not very good, i get standard T-mob signal, sorry Orange, but i'm also off at the end of my current contract, the signal is garbage.

Loss of signal, no auto reconnect.

I am having an issue on my One X (unbranded and unlocked) with the signal vanishing and not reconnecting unless I force it. I was wondering whether it effects all networks or just networks that use more than one carrier. Three has its own 3G network but it uses Orange 2G signal. I also saw a thread with the same issue on T-Mobile / Orange which is also dual carrier.
I am wondering whether it is the switch between these networks which is causing it to lose signal and not reconnect.
I have had several instances where my signal has an R next to it as if it is roaming, this would be when it is connected to the Orange 2G network, I never had this problem on my Desire HD or Sensation.
Does anyone know of any issues on Vodafone or O2 regarding signal loss or is it just networks which use multiple carriers.
My One X is stock and bootloader has not been unlocked.
Thoughts?
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Are you still on the 126 SW?
As your unbranded then you should be able to get the 128 update.
With 126, my Three handset recieve level was about -88 to 91dbm.
With 128 its now at -75dbm in the same location.
Most, if not all of the roam to Orange has now been disabled, remaining where there is no Three signal at all.
Steve
No I have upgraded to 1.28, unfortunately I am still in an area where it does switch to Orange 2G signal.
It seems to hang on to 3G until I have virtually no signal, then goes to no signal and doesn't reconnect unless I force it. It seems to mostly happen when I put the phone away on my pocket so I dont notice I have no signal until I check my phone.
I lost signal today and to test the reconnect I left the screen on and I drove about 20 miles through large-ish towns and it didn't reconnect once, had to force it when I got home.
Not sure if this effects single carrier networks, O2 or Vodafone?
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Have you had the same issue with any other handset?
Are you a new customer to Three and this is the first you have seen of this?
Reason I ask is when I was thinking of going to Three for my main phone, I tested with a handset I just used for tethering off the one plan.
I drove out of town to an area where I guessed there would be no Three coverage.
The signal hung on for ages but when it dropped I made a note of where it dropped. After a few moments the handset went over to Orange 2g. I then drove back home. I must of drove at least 5 miles past the point I noted earlier before the Orange signal itself dropped and had to force the handset to Three myself.
This sounds similar to your issue and was with a Desire S….but you say you didnt have this with previous handsets. All very strange
Steve
I've had a Desire HD and a Sensation both on Three and never had issue on either of these.
There must be something different about the way the One X handles the switch of signal, or maybe it's just faulty.
Might try some other SIM's from other networks, if that doesn't work I'll get a replacement.
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I have this phone second day and I see this signal problem as well, I got iphone 4s in Three and HTC One X in Three as well and in same place Iphone show me 3G connection and 3 bars, HTC show only one bar and sometime nothing.
How get update to1.28?
I check update via my phone and nothing show me
My phone have no 1.26
shrubz said:
No I have upgraded to 1.28, unfortunately I am still in an area where it does switch to Orange 2G signal.
It seems to hang on to 3G until I have virtually no signal, then goes to no signal and doesn't reconnect unless I force it. It seems to mostly happen when I put the phone away on my pocket so I dont notice I have no signal until I check my phone.
I lost signal today and to test the reconnect I left the screen on and I drove about 20 miles through large-ish towns and it didn't reconnect once, had to force it when I got home.
Not sure if this effects single carrier networks, O2 or Vodafone?
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I'm on three and it never seems to switch to gsm just looses signal all together and takes ages to reconnect once I move location. this is a proper pain I've had the phone replaced three times changed sim still not got better I'm thinking its the radio version on this phone or some software related issue.
If you're phone is from Three you won't get the update until Three release it.
I did see on another thread that Three won't be releasing 1.28 as HTC are currently working on the next update. Don't know how true that is.
My phone is unbranded and unlocked to any network, which is why I got the update.
Think I'm going to get a replacement and see if that's any better, hope it's not a general issue with the one X having lower signal.
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I'm on three and it never seems to switch to gsm just looses signal all together and takes ages to reconnect once I move location. this is a proper pain I've had the phone replaced three times changed sim still not got better I'm thinking its the radio version on this phone or some software related issue.
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If you dial *#*#4636#*#* on your phone and select phone info you can select GSM only which is 2G, this really improves signal but because it's 2G you are stuck on really slow data speeds.
If that is the case and you've had 3 replacements, maybe it's worth holding out for the next update to see if that fixes the problem.
I'm a little uneasy about returning it for a replacement as I don't have any other problems with it (bad screen seal, banding on display or yellow display) I may end up with more problems with a replacement.
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Is any chance change three rom on factory rom?
I had similar issues to what you are describing with yours on my original unlocked/unbranded HOX on T-Mobile. I had issues on top of the ones you mentioned where it was also saying I had a signal and had appeared to lock up and would just drop the mobile network and say at the bottomg of the screen "preparing sim".
Most the time I was stuck with putting it in and out of airplane mode to make calls, only for them to drop or fail all together.
This was on both 1.26 and 1.28 FW. In the end I took mine back and swapped it and the replacement has been perfect since. so it was without doubt a hardware fault in my case!
Good luck solving your problem, but I would suggest taking it back and getting a straight swap.
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Is any chance change three rom on factory rom?
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You can't change you ROM unless you unlock the Bootloader at HTCDev and this will void your warranty with HTC.
Three will release an update eventually, and 1.28 is no better signal wise for me than 1.26 was!!
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I had similar issues to what you are describing with yours on my original unlocked/unbranded HOX on T-Mobile. I had issues on top of the ones you mentioned where it was also saying I had a signal and had appeared to lock up and would just drop the mobile network and say at the bottomg of the screen "preparing sim".
Most the time I was stuck with putting it in and out of airplane mode to make calls, only for them to drop or fail all together.
This was on both 1.26 and 1.28 FW. In the end I took mine back and swapped it and the replacement has been perfect since. so it was without doubt a hardware fault in my case!
Good luck solving your problem, but I would suggest taking it back and getting a straight swap.
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Interesting, I too had the Preparing Sim message until I got a new SIM from Three, this seemed to fix this message but I am still having Signal Problems.
I think I'll follow your lead and go for a replacement, I have to use Airplane mode to force the signal to reconnect as well.
Thanks
I can confirm I have these problems. I'm on three but the phone was from Dialaphone and with orange but is unlocked. I have exactly the same problems as those been described. This is a very irritating problem that makes me miss calls and texts in my poor 3 signal area.
Smith2001 said:
I can confirm I have these problems. I'm on three but the phone was from Dialaphone and with orange but is unlocked. I have exactly the same problems as those been described. This is a very irritating problem that makes me miss calls and texts in my poor 3 signal area.
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I think you're best off to return it for a replacement, that's what i'm going to do. Hopefully that will fix my problem and not create any more!!
I have the same issue on my device. On my 2nd replacement and its still the same.
No problems with my iPhone 4S.
Hopefully a radio update will sort this out.
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shrubz said:
If you dial *#*#4636#*#* on your phone and select phone info you can select GSM only which is 2G, this really improves signal but because it's 2G you are stuck on really slow data speeds.
If that is the case and you've had 3 replacements, maybe it's worth holding out for the next update to see if that fixes the problem.
I'm a little uneasy about returning it for a replacement as I don't have any other problems with it (bad screen seal, banding on display or yellow display) I may end up with more problems with a replacement.
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was my worry everytime but thankfully the only issue ot kept coming back with was the signal issue so it looks like its here to stay, i tried the *# menu and when i select gsm only i get no signal????? called three today to say i want to activate the gsm mode when im in poor 3g areas and they said for some reason i am unable to, he could explain why? but it seems some three customers can switch to gsm, i have never seen a g icon on my phone, either got 3g or nout!!
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was my worry everytime but thankfully the only issue ot kept coming back with was the signal issue so it looks like its here to stay, i tried the *# menu and when i select gsm only i get no signal????? called three today to say i want to activate the gsm mode when im in poor 3g areas and they said for some reason i am unable to, he could explain why? but it seems some three customers can switch to gsm, i have never seen a g icon on my phone, either got 3g or nout!!
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I think it might depend on location, in some areas the 2G signal (Three use Orange network for 2G) has been turned off. In my Area (South West England) I still have access to the 2G GSM Signal.
Obviously Three save a lot of money from turning off GSM and not paying Orange to use their network.
shrubz said:
I think it might depend on location, in some areas the 2G signal (Three use Orange network for 2G) has been turned off. In my Area (South West England) I still have access to the 2G GSM Signal.
Obviously Three save a lot of money from turning off GSM and not paying Orange to use their network.
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thanks for the info
Guys Im three network customer and now I bay this HTc from my friend with is 3 network customer as well, can I claim now exchange this phone? I have only photo delivery invoice. Can I?

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