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Dear Noobs,
Before asking the meaning of:
RBSC
RBSN
NonRBSC
NonRBSN
Please remember the Wiki is your friend and will not harm your health... So... Please DO read it.
Simply click HERE and read.
Cheers.
Kevlar-Source said:
Dear Noobs,
Before asking the meaning of:
RBSC
RBSN
NonRBSC
NonRBSN
Please remember the Wiki is your friend and will not harm your health... So... Please DO read it.
Simply click HERE and read.
Cheers.
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thanks to make it clear...
sinced i'm not heavy good on english, i can't explain at the moments
It is
actually being made clear here, we are trying to get this on sticky, any other ideas you have please post on that thread. Not many noobs know how to go to wiki to look figured a sticky would help with FAQ
zocster said:
Not many noobs know how to go to wiki
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Gosh!
Noobs are not like recently married girls who claim not to know how to dust the house o use the vacuum cleaner...
Is there anything to know about how to read the wiki?
Well, if you believe that a sticky can help, go for it... Didn't mean to bother anyone... Just to be helpfull...
Good efforts, but do remember, we were all noobs once! I hope people start reading instead of typing!
Well, im n00b xD
When the wiki say that:
¤ Requires the installation of an original carrier ROM before installation in order to avoid system freeze and spontaneous Hard Resets
I think, how is that?, i must extract OS.nb from the RUU_Hermes_CINGULAR_WWE_3.62.502.3_6275_1.54.07.00_108_UOOS_SVN05_Ship.exe by example, and flash it? (thats it?)
Thanks
ALoGeNo said:
Well, im n00b xD
When the wiki say that:
¤ Requires the installation of an original carrier ROM before installation in order to avoid system freeze and spontaneous Hard Resets
I think, how is that?, i must extract OS.nb from the RUU_Hermes_CINGULAR_WWE_3.62.502.3_6275_1.54.07.00_108_UOOS_SVN05_Ship.exe by example, and flash it? (thats it?)
Thanks
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Pretty much. You need to extract OS and ExtROM, and recompile them to nbh. Do not reflash radio all the time! Its dangerous!
Can someone explain the last point better?
I mean, is it really required? Why?
I'm simply having a working phone and never had to mess with the original rom...I've always flashed many Schap's roms without any SPONTANEOUS HARD reset ??? Why should they happen?
[p.s.] I just wanna learn...this story is sooo strange to me
ErMeglio said:
Can someone explain the last point better?
I mean, is it really required? Why?
I'm simply having a working phone and never had to mess with the original rom...I've always flashed many Schap's roms without any SPONTANEOUS HARD reset ??? Why should they happen?
[p.s.] I just wanna learn...this story is sooo strange to me
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I can't recall Schaps ROM being big storage and compressed? you only need to do these steps when you are flashing a big storage and/or compressed roms.
ai6908 said:
Pretty much. You need to extract OS and ExtROM, and recompile them to nbh. Do not reflash radio all the time! Its dangerous!
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Thank you very much ai6908, but later xD my radio is downgraded
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I can't recall Schaps ROM being big storage and compressed? you only need to do these steps when you are flashing a big storage and/or compressed roms.
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Hhm...I thought they have big storage even if I never checked/used...ok, actually I never used to know what it means!
I've just checked the wiki and found only a sentence saying it's a "merged" storage+extrom space...
Anyway, just to be sure, I'll flash a non-ANYTHING
Wish I didn't appear sooo noob, but these are the facts...
ErMeglio said:
Hhm...I thought they have big storage even if I never checked/used/ used to know what it means(just checked the wiki and found only a sentence saying it's a "merged" storage+extrom space)...
Anyway, just to be shure, I'll flash a non-ANYTHING
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You can find it in settings/system/memory ... if it is big storage will have over 70 mb on the left side being ROM
Mmh, I'm almost sure I didn't have so much storage!
Anyway,
I've just noticed the ROM I wanted and actually flashed is the one in your signature
Seems great, cool and complete enough but...
I'm getting strange glitches in the main screen...it needs ages to reload the screen image there...
This happens also if I open the start menu and close it! Its image stays there for 3-5 seconds
I've tried many settings of sys cache, glitch cache, filter cache etc (mainly around the advised ones) but I had no luck of getting it faster
I think I'll look for other substitute of Schap's....even if it's surely a hard seek!
Sorry for the OT, and thanks for the help zocster!
ErMeglio said:
Mmh, I'm almost sure I didn't have so much storage!
Anyway,
I've just noticed the ROM I wanted and actually flashed is the one in your signature
Seems great, cool and complete enough but...
I'm getting strange glitches in the main screen...it needs ages to reload the screen image there...
This happens also if I open the start menu and close it! Its image stays there for 3-5 seconds
I've tried many settings of sys cache, glitch cache, filter cache etc (mainly around the advised ones) but I had no luck of getting it faster
I think I'll look for other substitute of Schap's....even if it's surely a hard seek!
Sorry for the OT, and thanks for the help zocster!
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This might be because of HTC home, try CRC's, look in my FAQ, and in the sticky!
ErMeglio said:
open the start menu and close it! Its image stays there for 3-5 seconds
I've tried many settings of sys cache, glitch cache, filter cache etc (mainly around the advised ones) but I had no luck of getting it faster
I think I'll look for other substitute of Schap's....even if it's surely a hard seek!
Sorry for the OT, and thanks for the help zocster!
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hmm try flashing a shipped rom first, i don't experience this, this rom is damn fast as it is without tweaking.
the compressed rom has started from me or dvha on pdaviet, so i think for an old build just normal rom
Hello, it's so clear to me then, all those definitions, i'm sorry, i had seen ROM named "Naked" in CRC's post, what then it does means?
Thank You
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Hello, it's so clear to me then, all those definitions, i'm sorry, i had seen ROM named "Naked" in CRC's post, what then it does means?
Thank You
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naked is clean ROM, but it will still have extended ROM at least that's what I think it is.
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naked is clean ROM, but it will still have extended ROM at least that's what I think it is.
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Ow if it is so, then it would be Non-RBS then, didn't know wether it's compressed or not.
Okay, like usually thank you Mas
Will it be possible to make any true standalone Android ROM without using windows?
And for what device are this settings "RAPH800"?
Currently, no, but there is workaround - a light ROM with dualboot or directly HaRET in autorun.
Neopeek is working on it at the moment. It will come in the next few weeks. Be patient!
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Neopeek is working on it at the moment. It will come in the next few weeks. Be patient!
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could you please give more info or a link
In the next days i will look into dzo's script and adopt our kernel + ramadresses to get a full working nbh so that i can flash it onto my device. Hope everything goes well. This will take some serious concentration. This is what I am going to do:
Compile the kernel from scratch
Strip-out nb.os + nb.payload.os from vogue / kaiser / polaris to see what's going on
Recompile a new test-nbh to NAND-FLASH it as bootloader for Android
And last but not least: Adopt NoMoRootFS
I hope I and my device won't get stuck with this (I only have 1 device to test). If you wanna share your thoughts or contribute this then just answer to this discussion and share your ideas. I will keep you updated on this and in my free time I will also try to update the various Android builds. But I can't promise you to do so.
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-neopeek
http://www.neopeek.com/en/community...67-Flashing+Android+on+our+devices?groupid=13 (mods please remove if this violates any rule of xda..)
Keep in mind that currently us TP user's DON'T have working camera (working on), and faster power drain (working on.) so if you end up using this rom (when it's done and released in time) you will have a phone that drain's faster then WM (meter usage is PRETTY accurate though itself.), and no camera anymore (until they finish adding support, and THEN add to this guy's kernal for the said ROM.), just so you know this
Currently, dual booting works just fine, and haven't experienced any negative's to date since using it this way. Hope that helps.
Ok. Tnx for the answers.
But can someone explain to me why it is so difficult to make working ROM for TP when the HTC Hero have the same hardware and powered up with Android? I am confused about that.
For what phone are startup settings (RAPH800)?
How much it will be faster with ROM flashed in nand memory than one run by heret in WM?
Tnx
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Ok. Tnx for the answers.
But can someone explain to me why it is so difficult to make working ROM for TP when the HTC Hero have the same hardware and powered up with Android? I am confused about that.
For what phone are startup settings (RAPH800)?
How much it will be faster with ROM flashed in nand memory than one run by heret in WM?
Tnx
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Uhm the Hero comes with Android 'from the factory' - it's a native Android device. Just like WinMo is native to our devices...
The brilliant devs are literally trying to reverse engineer drivers so Linux/Android can run on our WinMo phones.
I forgot to answer your other questions... NAND should give some performance boost, but I don't know how much. Probably not much, it didn't do much for the RHOD - albeit a little.
Phone startup settings, you should have a STARTUPS folder and it should have the RAPH800 startup in there...
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Cant wait for nand support , i loved it on my Kaiser
Theoretical question: Will installation to NAND and starting directly from bootloader affect performance positively?
Corias said:
Theoretical question: Will installation to NAND and starting directly from bootloader affect performance positively?
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In theory yes, but so far the benefits have been minor, if any. Of course the NAND that is functional for the TP2 isn't technically a full NAND, so it's probably not the best example to use.
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Uhm the Hero comes with Android 'from the factory' - it's a native Android device. Just like WinMo is native to our devices...
The brilliant devs are literally trying to reverse engineer drivers so Linux/Android can run on our WinMo phones.
I forgot to answer your other questions... NAND should give some performance boost, but I don't know how much. Probably not much, it didn't do much for the RHOD - albeit a little.
Phone startup settings, you should have a STARTUPS folder and it should have the RAPH800 startup in there...
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Tnx for the answer. I know that I have RAPH800, but it can't work on my TP, only settings that work are RAPH, and I was wondering for what phone are these RAPH800 settings??
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Tnx for the answer. I know that I have RAPH800, but it can't work on my TP, only settings that work are RAPH, and I was wondering for what phone are these RAPH800 settings??
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I'm not sure how to answer your question. Babijoee's builds have a STARTUPS folder, do you not have this?
Hi developers,
i have a big question:
I read some time ago, that it is possible to install android on NAND of the HD2.
My question is : is it possible to install it on the NAND on the Touch Pro?
Because it is really slow, if i run android over MicroSD card, and it would be awsome ,when android runs faster.
Best regards,
BikerBoy030
At the moment (and to my knowledge) the answer to your question is no. User e334 tried but failed and bricked his phone. You can read more about his attempt in THIS thread. He was attempting to find out a few values that are apparently required but he did leave a few hints of his findings in that thread.
By the way, what version or build (neopeek-variants or xdandroid) are you using and have you updated everything to reflect the latest that is out and relevant.
brick !!! too sad
So, is this the end of hope for NAND on touch pro ???
pls somebody told me !!!
For now, yes :enter sadface of choice here: However, the xdandroid dev team are steadily working at improving stability and adding features some doubted at first; such as camera which is, in testing phase atm. The only thing I can say is that, "it ain't over till it's over!"
n-Joie! (Enjoy)
BikerBoy030 said:
I read some time ago, that it is possible to install android on NAND of the HD2.
My question is : is it possible to install it on the NAND on the Touch Pro?
Because it is really slow, if i run android over MicroSD card, and it would be awsome ,when android runs faster.
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Just FYI, NAND will not provide any improvements in speed. The optimizations really need to happen in the system, moving to NAND will not solve those problems.
The HD2 guys had a ridiculously complete port of Android when they were still on Haret. We're still not near that stage.
They have it easy, they just rip builds from Desire, etc...
thanks for the fast answer:
that is really sad, that he briked his phone....this is such a sweet phone
I used xandroid, updatet all and could use all programms etc.
But it wasn't smooth...it stocks a bit at all,what it did.
It feels like it used a "bullet-time-mode"
Maybe it would be enought if i willl overclock it to 710 mhz this COULD be enought, but i didn't tested it.
Wich version is more smooth: neopeek or xandroid?
Regards:
bikerboy030
To my knowledge, OC'ing will not help stability. If anything it will make it more unstable. Neopeek builds seem smoother but requires more setup time upfront (multi-partitions and what not). XDAndroid builds may seem rocky at first but are much quicker to setup and it has a nice plug-n-play feel.
n-Joie! (Enjoy)
i had no problems with the stability, it was only too slow.
than i will try neopeek, maybe it feels better.
the problem is: a good friend owns a desire z, overclocked to 1400mhz...that is smooth.....
but if the touch pro works smooth, it would be fine
Well, i can be totally honest to say as far as speed, that XDA android runs quicker then WM does even on my touch pro. I am running wm6.5.5 NRG rom (jan.4), which is pretty zippy to a month ago version of 6.5.5, noticably, but android is actually visually faster. Now that camera is working fine, battery i get around 7-8 hours with little less then normal usage, and would honestly use it SOLELY if it didn't randomly drop data and needed a reset to fix (which i usually just stay in WM when it happens.), but ALSO mostly since at work (IT Tech) i use tethering a lot to grab a driver almost daily (our net connection is 'clear' and is a bit worse in speed then my phone. SAD yes.)
Hmm ... I'm one of those people who eagerly await with great versions of NAND. What exactly is needed to it came to Raphael? Of course, I'm not asking for what must have been fixed and asking, I assume that in theory it already is. Let me add that I've read about, whose founder bricked his Raphael.
Bootloader is required.
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Bootloader is required.
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Ok, I'll ask differently. What is needed to create this Bootloader for Raphael?
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Ok, I'll ask differently. What is needed to create this Bootloader for Raphael?
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Knowledge of how to write a bootloader? What do you mean?
We have one called tinboot that dzo wrote for the vogue guys. That's what the RHOD is using, but A LOT of work needs to be done to get it to work on other devices. It's not even a full NAND flash for the RHOD....
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Knowledge of how to write a bootloader? What do you mean?
We have one called tinboot that dzo wrote for the vogue guys. That's what the RHOD is using, but A LOT of work needs to be done to get it to work on other devices. It's not even a full NAND flash for the RHOD....
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I would like to know what is needed to version NAND and how this process (creating nand and tools that you need, such as the bootloader and other ) should follow you. Of course, theoretically. Perhaps someone from another country would take on this (not everyone knows looks at XDA;-) maybe after the publication of the national forums that someone will take).
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I would like to know what is needed to version NAND and how this process (creating nand and tools that you need, such as the bootloader and other ) should follow you. Of course, theoretically. Perhaps someone from another country would take on this (not everyone knows looks at XDA;-) maybe after the publication of the national forums that someone will take).
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I'm no dev, so I won't be able to help you out directly. But look up tinboot, and look at what us TP2 guys have for a NAND bootloader thus far.
ACL has a GIT repo for our NAND tree that is publicly available as well.
We started talking about Raph and Diam nand in the Blackstone thread somewhere around here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=11051880&postcount=124
I've compiled the kernel for blackstone-nand and will try to flash this onto my diamond tonight or maybe tomorrow. Wish me luck
detlef25 said:
We started talking about Raph and Diam nand in the Blackstone thread somewhere around here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=11051880&postcount=124
I've compiled the kernel for blackstone-nand and will try to flash this onto my diamond tonight or maybe tomorrow. Wish me luck
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I wish you a lot of luck
If you succed please share your values,maybe we can make it to boot ext2 partition bulids
Is 512 MB of Raphael's internal NAND enough for Android?
Corias said:
Is 512 MB of Raphael's internal NAND enough for Android?
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More than enough, I thing the G1 had like 192 or something.
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More than enough, I thing the G1 had like 192 or something.
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Yeah,a build is about 150 mb
My regards to all the developers,
My problem is that I have unknowingly flashed 3.4.3-11 Motorola SBF TMobile Great Britain SBF thinking that it has code groups removed and downgradable. I turned out that the file was some 369 mb and was a full sbf.
Now though I have a nandroid backup of my previous Eclair 2.5.1, I cant downgrade.
Can somebody have mercy on me and try to help
Thanks a million tonnes in advance.
Why desperate? Just wait for a new oficial release for your country.
once you have flashed a full froyo sbf, you can not downgrade back to 2.51.
To maintain down-grade, you should have FIRST restored a froyo nandroid in custom recovery, boot into bootloader and flash a FIXED sbf of. I think your out of luck, atleast in terms of going back to 2.51. If you just like eclair better and want eclair you could flash US 3.6.360 sbf
Thanks zyxwvut, its not that i like Eclair, but the biggest issue that I am facing with this SBF is now my defy has become a battery hungry monster, on eclair, after a fair day's usage, my battery would still remain at 50%. But now, man it vanishes in a span of 4 hours or even less.
Any suggestions.
Thanks zyxwvut, its not that i like Eclair, but the biggest issue that I am facing with this SBF is now my defy has become a battery hungry monster, on eclair, after a fair day's usage, my battery would still remain at 50%. But now, man it vanishes in a span of 4 hours or even less.
Any suggestions.
You can always try another rom like the official french rom 3.4.2-164.
@Kalijam : is the French Rom stable and has a decent battery life. Im in UK so would it work for me. I need more juice out of my battery.
French rom has English language. Try it.
Sent from my Defy on EphuNord rom.
I'm also from the UK and had the UK sbf 3.4.3-11 but found the battery life ok.
There must be something wrong if you are only getting 4 hours out of it.
I've since flashed the Nordic sbf 3.4.2-177 (no blur on this) and i find it smoother than the other one and battery life is still good for me.
Sent from my MotoDefy.
@sp8y - Very Very strange, I think ur right, could it be the always on 3g internet?
This thing is driving me nuts!!
HELP.
Have a look in the "hidden menu" - go into the dialler & type *#*#4636#*#* & see if anything abnormal shows in the battery usage.
It may be like you say the data usage - I'm not sure as rarely use the 3G - but try disabling the data in the settings menu & see if it improves.
It may also need a battery calibration - there's a few threads on here about having to recalibrate after flashing a different ROM. I've done mine a couple of times now after flashing & seems fine.
You can either follow this thread which I did by using ClockworkMod Recovery http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=913190&highlight=battery+calibration
OR there's an app in the market which does it for you http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1024867
Hope you get sorted
the french rom seems to have better battery time. A friend runs it now. 30+ hours and still 50% left. He claims its faster too.
Kaljam
@sp8y: Thanks for the concern and quick reply dude, will try what u'd recommended and will get back after calibration.
@Kaljam: Thanks buddy, i've just flashed the nordic 3.4.2.177 and would test it out, if that dose'nt work I would try the French one later.
Ok now, Nordic 3.4.2.177 squeezes a better battery time, but not to my liking yet. Now will be trying out the French ROM, see how it works out. Will report back 2moro.
Hi i'am italian boy and i buy one smartphone s4 mini whit restriction orange line,i unblock whit tecnical support shop but now i have one problem,the battery is very hot and during only 2 hours,remeber i change the lcd screen complete and the all operation is success.I try to reinstall the stock firmware of this smart and the tecnical say:using odin,but this phone on recovery mode say kernel of csc,i think for unblock sim orange because i use sim italian.Please help me because i don't know tu use this phone,i work on china mobile is rooted kind iocean and neo but for samsung i dont know.I see is near the exit the new firmware lollypop is a true? it's a possibble? Thanks for my resolved. My smart is rooted.
The place to go for your device is http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s4-mini . You originally posted this in the "full size" S4 forums, where very few people are likely to have your device. Please be patient while the thread is moved.
rolcia2 said:
Hi i'am italian boy and i buy one smartphone s4 mini whit restriction orange line,i unblock whit tecnical support shop but now i have one problem,the battery is very hot and during only 2 hours,remeber i change the lcd screen complete and the all operation is success.I try to reinstall the stock firmware of this smart and the tecnical say:using odin,but this phone on recovery mode say kernel of csc,i think for unblock sim orange because i use sim italian.Please help me because i don't know tu use this phone,i work on china mobile is rooted kind iocean and neo but for samsung i dont know.I see is near the exit the new firmware lollypop is a true? it's a possibble? Thanks for my resolved. My smart is rooted.
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I am not 100% sure what you are asking. I assume you are talking about a S4 Mini LTE?
For the overheating, it could be a dirty flash, so make sure you cleaned all caches, system etc.
OR
Google Apps going nuts. You can use Better Battery Stats to check for that (what is draining the battery in partial wakelock section)
Then I think you asked for lollipop flashing? Go here for step to step intructions:
- Firmware thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3100159
- Q&A thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s4-mini/help/qa-cyanogenmod-12-1-s4-mini-3g-lte-t3100713
Regards
Chris
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I am not 100% sure what you are asking. I assume you are talking about a S4 Mini LTE?
For the overheating, it could be a dirty flash, so make sure you cleaned all caches, system etc.
OR
Google Apps going nuts. You can use Better Battery Stats to check for that (what is draining the battery in partial wakelock section)
Then I think you asked for lollipop flashing? Go here for step to step intructions:
- Firmware thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3100159
- Q&A thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s4-mini/help/qa-cyanogenmod-12-1-s4-mini-3g-lte-t3100713
Regards
Chris
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Thk Chris you understand all,for battery i try the battery doctor app but whitout success the problem is when use internet whit 3g and telephon to call the motherboard is very hot about area cpu,this is second time to change the display complete because is broken....my son.....and the last time the cpu is very hot when usage the phone,example if not use phone and this is connect whit my wifi the battery during 4 days,if use the problem is cpu is very hot and the battery go down immediately.i dont know if the rom orange installed is correct but this work mahe china shopping in italy and i buy for this.i think the rom is original but the tecnical man china use the app csc change for unlock my sim italian.I dont know if install the rom italian whit odin is correct and i read need take the pit for the new rom italian install.Thk for my resolved problem.