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Are there hardware differences between Android vs Windows 7 Mobile phones?

Was just wondering if there is something physically different between an Android Phone and a Windows 7 Mobile phone or is it just a software thing?
Macs can run Windows through an emulator. Will it be possible one day to port Windows 7 Mobile onto my EVO or are the actual innards different in some way?
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I'm not sure about the hardware but as of now u can't run wp7 on an Android. Maybe someone will come out with an emulator or a way to boot wp7 on the evo.

This would be awesome. Buy a phone load whatever OS I want.

not interested. the wp7 UI looks like ****.

fixxxer2008 said:
not interested. the wp7 UI looks like ****.
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Have you actually used it personally? I used to think it was crap too based upon what I saw online but actually using the phone it was very fast and cool.
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mitchellvii said:
Have you actually used it personally? I used to think it was crap too based upon what I saw online but actually using the phone it was very fast and cool.
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fast yes, ugly YES!

HP WebOS + Galaxy S2

Do the Tmobile Galaxy s2 have the same chipset as the hp touchpad? So would hp webos work on this phone? Since webos is open source now and has anyone ported it to anything yet?
thanks, btw im new so my questions may seem dumb. lol.

Ween is is meant for tablets not phones and even if we could port Web OS to the galaxy S2, somebody would have to program the kennel and that's not very easy. what do you wanna do with Web OS anyway, Android is much better?
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why would you want WebOS?
people are buying webos stuff and trying to put android on it...

I would rather not have that junk near my phone nice idea though. There is a reason why everyone who bought a touch pad put Android on it.
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Anything good about webos ....ics stole so let's wait for that! HAHAHAHA
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Well it would be a good learning experience. How would we get started?
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Well it would be a good learning experience. How would we get started?
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Learn how to code on an expert level in Linux, Java, and probably a few others lol.
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Learn how to code on an expert level in Linux, Java, and probably a few others lol.
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That's a good start. WebOS isn't "junk" by any stretch of the imagination. It was/is a nice OS that was a victim of poor decisions on HP's part.
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Web OS is great I use it more often than android Web OS is visually better than android 2.3. If you want a Web OS device Im sure you can get a palm 3 for 250.00 which is a nice device with no support.

the HP tablet and our phone does have almost identical spec, except for the screen size
but i would NEVER install that piece of crap Web OS in our phone even if it'll run on our phone

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the HP tablet and our phone does have almost identical spec, except for the screen size
but i would NEVER install that piece of crap Web OS in our phone even if it'll run on our phone
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You do realize that a large portion of ICS was stolen from WebOS when Matias Duarte left HP for Google. WebOS is still the best UI and the best for multi-funcionality, better than android and better than iOS. Don't confuse crappy HP with the product itself because WebOS is quite good, it's just that HP had no clue what to do with it.

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You do realize that a large portion of ICS was stolen from WebOS when Matias Duarte left HP for Google. WebOS is still the best UI and the best for multi-funcionality, better than android and better than iOS. Don't confuse crappy HP with the product itself because WebOS is quite good, it's just that HP had no clue what to do with it.
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Um no.
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@xsteven77x:
Umm yes. I have a Touchpad. The WebOS UI is really amazing. I have Android on the Touchpad as well as ICS.

xsteven77x said:
I would rather not have that junk near my phone nice idea though. There is a reason why everyone who bought a touch pad put Android on it.
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WebOS isn't that bad. Blame HP.
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I don't consider webOS junk at all, just because you prefer to use android doesn't exactly mean that all other mobile OS's are inferior in any way. I would like to see alternative roms for a phone that aren't just Android. Would make purchasing a phone allot more of a fun experience in my opinion.

i had a touchpad before, the multitasking on it was so smooth but sadly hp launched the touchpad late compare to the other tablets on the market. It was destined to sell poorly

It sold poorly because it came to the market late and was sort of underpowered for webOS.
Android is a great operating system, but webOS now that it's open source, would be a great addition to the SGS2.
What's great about webOS is the multitasking experience and it's built upon open web technologies.
I'd flash webOS on my SGS2 if it were available. Kinda doubting it though

I was really hoping to find something productive in this thread. I like webOS and would still own a webOS device if HP would have created a device that wouldn't fry when I plugged it into a charger. I loved the os that was very fun and easy to use.

Wait... If we have similar hardware...cant we port their cm9 over?
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itsomaryo said:
Wait... If we have similar hardware...cant we port their cm9 over?
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innovator.....

WebOS on inc2.

Seems it can be done. I for one, am 100% for it and would love to see it done. Please respond if you would too. Let's get the attention of one of our great devs to get it done.
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I'd definitely be interested in webOS, I actually REALLY like that OS

Considering that the last OTA version of webOS for phones came out in December 2011 and that the App Catalog currently has less than 10,00 apps (and dropping), I think I'll stick with Android. It would be interesting to see it running on an Inc2, but it seems like it would merely be a novelty.

Card83 said:
Considering that the last OTA version of webOS for phones came out in December 2011 and that the App Catalog currently has less than 10,00 apps (and dropping), I think I'll stick with Android. It would be interesting to see it running on an Inc2, but it seems like it would merely be a novelty.
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The thing is that webos has great features that I absolutely love.
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Now that it is open sourced, it should be like compiling a rom. I can't fully say, I'm no dev.

brd912 said:
The thing is that webos has great features that I absolutely love.
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Buy a palm pre. I don't think any dev would even take this on. Maybe you can find a similar launcher of sorts.
I was actually thinking of getting a used pre myself just to play with.
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tincbtrar said:
Buy a palm pre. I don't think any dev would even take this on. Maybe you can find a similar launcher of sorts.
I was actually thinking of getting a used pre myself just to play with.
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Never say never

tincbtrar said:
Buy a palm pre. I don't think any dev would even take this on. Maybe you can find a similar launcher of sorts.
I was actually thinking of getting a used pre myself just to play with.
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having had the palm pre, dont bother
webos is neat, but the device is so crappy/small/cheap its not worth spending 5 minutes with
there is a lot of open webos development on the touchpad, and its a much better implemenation of it....if you can pick one up cheap, thats a better route to go

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having had the palm pre, dont bother
webos is neat, but the device is so crappy/small/cheap its not worth spending 5 minutes with
there is a lot of open webos development on the touchpad, and its a much better implemenation of it....if you can pick one up cheap, thats a better route to go
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Listen to nitsuj17, he is quite knowledgeable
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I too had the pre plus. At first I loved it but after awhile I hated it. Webos is a great os just that the phones hardware wasn't good enough to run the os.
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If you could get me an incedible 2.. I could try, I'm working on my first Rom right now and I'm ready to take on the challenge
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brd912 said:
The thing is that webos has great features that I absolutely love.
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Out of curiosity, what specific features are you looking for?
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nitsuj17 said:
having had the palm pre, dont bother
webos is neat, but the device is so crappy/small/cheap its not worth spending 5 minutes with
there is a lot of open webos development on the touchpad, and its a much better implemenation of it....if you can pick one up cheap, thats a better route to go
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I've had 2 pre's and a pixi. I liked them but as you say, the devices suck. I love the OS though.
Nits I was hoping you would reply to this thread. How hard would it be? Would it require a lot of hard work?
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Ubuntu Mobile OS

Dont know if u guys have seen this but it looks pretty awesome.
http://www.phonedog.com/2013/01/02/...eatures-like-edge-gestures-and-global-search/
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Yeah I saw that. Pretty awesome if we had an ubuntu rom to flash. If that's possible, im just a noob.
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Well dont think source is releases....
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Saw this yesterday. It would be awesome on our device.
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Sure did!. Makes me wonder how it will look as far as the UI. Can't be that hard since its already simple for PC's . Can't wait to see how they did it. And what devices will get it.
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Sure did!. Makes me wonder how it will look as far as the UI. Can't be that hard since its already simple for PC's . Can't wait to see how they did it. And what devices will get it.
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There is a video on that post....vid is ~20 minutes and u have to skip the beginning but they have the os preview and u can see the os and all in action.
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I'm definitely interested in taking Ubuntu for a test drive, but I do have a few concerns:
1 - There is no lock screen, but the phone is still somehow secure. I don't feel great about that. Having a lock screen in place gives me the added peace of mind that if my phone is lost or stolen, I know that my data will be initially secure, and will probably remain secure until I remotely wipe the device.
2 - I'm not sure how I feel about a completely gesture-driven device. I had the original Palm Pre at the time, and I didn't find myself using the gestures unless I absolutely needed to (i.e. closing out cards, going back in the browser, etc.). Thankfully, the phone was a hybrid of gestures and physical hardware buttons. There won't be any hardware buttons on any Ubuntu phone.
3 - The device unity selling point doesn't sell me. I'd never use my phone as my home computer. My desktop and laptop are far more robust in terms of capability than any phone, and I'd rather just use those.
4 - I'm having a hard time believing that desktop-grade applications will run smoothly on a phone. Sure, developers will be encouraged to bundle a mobile interface, but I'm not sold on the notion that someday in the near future I'll be playing Portal 2 on my phone.
5 - The home screen looks crazy. I'm not a huge fan of the hodgepodge that will be files, media, and apps strewn about the home screen. In hindsight, I like the process existing mobile OS's take to reduce clutter. Open the app, then open media recognized by the app. That process keeps things clean.
Ubuntu isn't exactly easy on the eyes, either. That magenta-y, orange-ish theme is hideous. Even the font that they use sucks. Undoubtedly, however, that can be fixed through themeing the rom. However, I love stock rom experiences, so I know that a theme would irk me. Just my OCD, I guess.
It's core strength is multi-tasking, of which I'm very interested in. It seems to be very intuitive. I'd love to play around with that.
Web-based apps on the phone are definitely intriguing.
I didn't really care for the dig that they made on Android regarding Java. Java was put in place for rapid application development. On lower-end phones, I can see a Java environment being overhead on the operating system, but with my Optimus G, it hardly even knows its there. The OG is a beast.
I'm definitely going to be paying attention to the developments made with Ubuntu Mobile. I'll be dusting off my GNex when the image does get released.

Damn dude hater over here
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Damn dude hater over here
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Definitely not hating, I do wanna try it. It could be a totally viable OS.

didnt seem like hating to me. just putting his opinion out there. he makes some good points. i would like to try it out but id much rather get JB before this lol

I'll port it eventually. Is there demand for webos or firefox os? I could do those too.
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Webos most definitely! Loved my Palm Pre and multitasking .
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xboxfanj said:
I'll port it eventually. Is there demand for webos or firefox os? I could do those too.
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I'm very interested in ubuntu. Would love to see it ported in the future.
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Is Love to see unbuntu or webos ported over
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Im extremely excited for this. Especially if it comes with a feature to dock to an external monitor and run a slim Ubuntu desktop OS.
I'm gonna need a port as soon as possible
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Ubuntu Phone OS - Let's Find it and Port It!

Alright guys here is the video shown on the Galaxy Nexus in case you have been living under a rock for the past few days...
Everywhere I look I cannot find anywhere where it has been released to begin working on getting it to our Note 2. Let us update this thread and eventually turn it into a "How-To" once we slap together something that works.
Any thoughts to get the ball rolling?

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lmike6453 said:
Any thoughts to get the ball rolling?
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Wait for source code to drop?
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They said they will be releasing a flashable zip for the galaxy nexus sometime in the future. So I would think you would have to wait til that.
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Wait for source code to drop?
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They said they will be releasing a flashable zip for the galaxy nexus sometime in the future. So I would think you would have to wait til that.
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Yeah I figured that this is all that we can do is wait, but does anyone know where it will be dropped first?

I think it is dropping during ces so like next week sometime, very excited about this.
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I think its kind of like a mash up of wp and android. To me I don't know if I like it yet I don't think, it looks like everything big and they didn't utilize the realist ate they have. And that looked a little slow, if you watch on some of the transactions and I like the ability to have buttons and menus. I'll have to play with it when its out but so far I'm not sure
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Looks like a themed version of miui to me. Nothing special but im not a ubuntu user.

excited to see what they bring to the table
android may not be as stagnant as iOS, but it's going to be neat having an ubuntu OS. I run it on my windows machine as another boot option and find it useful and fairly intuitive.
will be looking forward to news for this.

I think the ability to have a full fledged operating system on a phone is an amazing idea.
What those videos where showing was a Nexus running a Ubuntu operating system, with some sort of mobile theme applied. Once the device is docked it could be used as a desktop solution. Or plugged into a TV, or a laptop etc.
This is something the mobile market has never seen before.
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I have a big concern about Ubuntu's history of ignoring feedback over the last few years. They've been making very heavy handed design decisions with the excuse that Linux users are 'free' to change things around if they want, but that attitude won't cut it in the consumer mobile market.
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I've always enjoyed Ubuntu, not this new Unity thing but with Gnome classic it's been great. So I would definitely give this a try.

Ive been looking for ubuntu phone os for almost 2 years lol since they released there website ... Ubuntu can we get some leakage love hehe
This would be perfect for the note 2, with huge screen and pen as mouse... using a skin launcher like unity on a phone would be great, laptop/desktop unity is junk... and have a full terminal my favorite part with connection to tv and bluetooth keyboard/mouse ...
Cant wait for this to drop
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The trick with our phone is going to be the s pen support. I can't wait for ubuntu on my phone.
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i can't wait for this. hopefully it doesn't take long for a port, and a multi boot kernel for the n2 would be awesome just waiting patiently at this point.

lmike6453 said:
Yeah I figured that this is all that we can do is wait, but does anyone know where it will be dropped first?
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"A specific date in unknown but it’s probable that the release will coincide with Canonical’s appearance at the Mobile World Congress 2013, being held between 25 – 28th of February." still over a month away

Now, there is a date:
Canonical announced the release of the image for the nexus and the source code as well, for the 21st of February. They will flash every phone they get at the MWC from 23 - 25.
Hopefully, someone will manage to port it for the sgn2, soon.

Can't wait to try it out! Even though functionality will be very basic at first... The only thing that worries me is whether the Ubuntu install will repartition our phone. It would be a bit of a ***** in that case
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coke7 said:
Now, there is a date:
Canonical announced the release of the image for the nexus and the source code as well, for the 21st of February. They will flash every phone they get at the MWC from 23 - 25.
Hopefully, someone will manage to port it for the sgn2, soon.
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It seems like a difficult process. In oder for Ubuntu to run smoothly, it needs to be ran as a complete operating system. As was shown on those videos. What we can do today is run Ubuntu virtually, which, for obvious reasons, will be significantly slower.
Once the code is dropped, we have to find a way to port it over to our Notes. Which means finding specific drivers. If Samsung supports this (which I doubt) it would make the process that much simpler.
That and I'm assuming the confirmed working devices, Nexus S, Nexus 4, Nexus 7 and Nexus 10 will all have a dual boot option from Android to Ubuntu. We don't have that option... Yet...
No support? I'd switch to the Nexus 4. Seriously. That's how badly I would love to have Ubuntu on my phone Lol. Id throw away LTE, expandable memory and a killer battery to have that OS in my hands.
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g2tegg said:
It seems like a difficult process. In oder for Ubuntu to run smoothly, it needs to be ran as a complete operating system. As was shown on those videos. What we can do today is run Ubuntu virtually, which, for obvious reasons, will be significantly slower.
Once the code is dropped, we have to find a way to port it over to our Notes. Which means finding specific drivers. If Samsung supports this (which I doubt) it would make the process that much simpler.
That and I'm assuming the confirmed working devices, Nexus S, Nexus 4, Nexus 7 and Nexus 10 will all have a dual boot option from Android to Ubuntu. We don't have that option... Yet...
No support? I'd switch to the Nexus 4. Seriously. That's how badly I would love to have Ubuntu on my phone Lol. Id throw away LTE, expandable memory and a killer battery to have that OS in my hands.
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The initial release will be very basic. No exchange email support from what I understand and no app store for starters. So you can only use what they give you as far as apps. Won't be fun with no apps to install and use.
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Really? If it's a desktop OS, why nothing will work? I'm using Thunderbird it's pretty good email client.
P.S. I'm really excited to try Ubuntu, it's my the only OS for last 6 or 7 years. What can be better then to use the same OS everywhere
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