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So let me get this straight, there is now a developer that has EC05, but you have to register to get it. I tried and get Access denied when trying to download. On a side note EC05 has been released and there aren't 10 mirrors up of it yet? I don't know what is going on with the politics over there, I don't really care or follow it that closely. But what I do know is when I hear that an operating system is leaked I come here to get it. All of a sudden that's not going to happen any more without hoops to jump through, registration and a nag screen for a donation? I wonder if the guys in the Evo forums put up with this am-mature hour BS?
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So let me get this straight, there is now a developer that has EC05, but you have to register to get it. I tried and get Access denied when trying to download. On a side note EC05 has been released and there aren't 10 mirrors up of it yet? I don't know what is going on with the politics over there, I don't really care or follow it that closely. But what I do know is when I hear that an operating system is leaked I come here to get it. All of a sudden that's not going to happen any more without hoops to jump through, registration and a nag screen for a donation? I wonder if the guys in the Evo forums put up with this am-mature hour BS?
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Here is a mirror:
http://www.multiupload.com/LNZXJFTCS0
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Here is a mirror:
http://www.multiupload.com/LNZXJFTCS0
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i think he probaly also want the stock rom of ec05??
or maybe bonsai?
Which rom would you like OP?
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I wonder if the guys in the Evo forums put up with this am-mature hour BS?
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Unfortunately, I've seen this happen everywhere. It is not a Samsung and/or Epic specific issue... Find it hard to believe that with all the different ROM.s for Evo that there isn't the occasional crap about who took what from whom without credit (not that this is this problem). Here, we have someone who got a leak from an inside source and to protect the source, he's done things somewhat differently. Do I agree, well not really sure...I don't want to register to get something (and he is NOT charging) but then again, I had to register to post and get stuff here... So, not that big of a deal. I'm totally happy with ViperRoms BUT I understand what Mammon88 has done and why...but I can see XDA's point too. Just the latest round of politics! If not this, then it would be something else.
Either the stock or bonsai needed off it will work at this point. I'm just shocked that politics are causing a delay in EC05 stock to be put up on these forums. After all it's already OTA at this point. At this point I'll probably wait until tomorrow for an update.zip. I just figured by history it would have already been made available.
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Mammon88 can't release the EC05 he has because the digital fingerprints are on the file which would lead back to the person who leaked it in the first place. So the only way to get stock EC05 is to wait for Sprint's release. Glad I'm running Bonsai 4.0.0 right now as I don't want to wait.
just to be honest here, if Mammon can remove the 'fingerprint' from the leaked copy, and put it on Bonsai 4.0, then why can't he release the stock version, fingerprint removed? Didn't he already attempt to do this, but the thread was shut down due to linking to the Bonsai site, which requires registration (not that a mirror is still in the locked thread anyways)? Im pretty sure the registration process does not remove said fingerprint itself.
I have to point out that I think he/they have the right to do WHATEVER they want with the leaked version, as it's not open source, it's a leak... BUT, the whole website membership business is disappointing, yes, it seems just an inconvenience, but if there is/will be paid premium support... it really doesn't belong on here, then does it? Honestly I am just sick of the drama, and apologetics for this whole thing, and I cant imagine what would have happened had it been Noobnl who had the leak, and then proceeded to make such a process... half the members would be asking for his head, no? I don't feel entitled to a thing, but pressure for donations, not to mention having to register for yet another website is not in the spirit of this site.
Why not just post a no-strings attached link here, or even on the Bonsai site...?
I guess demand drives things, as the wait for EB13 prompted half the site to revert to DI18 just to get the OTA and get the update.zip... now it would seem there are far fewer people doing this. /rant
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just to be honest here, if Mammon can remove the 'fingerprint' from the leaked copy, and put it on Bonsai 4.0, then why can't he release the stock version, fingerprint removed? Didn't he already attempt to do this, but the thread was shut down due to linking to the Bonsai site, which requires registration (not that a mirror is still in the locked thread anyways)? Im pretty sure the registration process does not remove said fingerprint itself.
I have to point out that I think he/they have the right to do WHATEVER they want with the leaked version, as it's not open source, it's a leak... BUT, the whole website membership business is disappointing, yes, it seems just an inconvenience, but if there is/will be paid premium support... it really doesn't belong on here, then does it? Honestly I am just sick of the drama, and apologetics for this whole thing, and I cant imagine what would have happened had it been Noobnl who had the leak, and then proceeded to make such a process... half the members would be asking for his head, no? I don't feel entitled to a thing, but pressure for donations, not to mention having to register for yet another website is not in the spirit of this site.
Why not just post a no-strings attached link here, or even on the Bonsai site...?
I guess demand drives things, as the wait for EB13 prompted half the site to revert to DI18 just to get the OTA and get the update.zip... now it would seem there are far fewer people doing this. /rant
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Wow! This is bs. Just leak it. Noobl got executed for doing stuff like this. Just give it to us. You know whats gonna happen if u keep epic owners in the dark right? Put it this way, "hide yo kids, hide yo wife, and hide yo husbands cuz they taking everyone out here yo!"
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Wow! This is ask bs. Just leak it. Noobl got executed for doing stuff like this. Just give it to us. You know whats gonna happen if u keep epic owners in the dark right? Put it this way, "hide yo kids, hide yo wife, and hide yo husbands cuz they taking everyone out here yo!"
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Lol good call antoine
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This is the reason they make Hyundai's and BMW's. You have a choice. Vote with your feet.
abduljaffar said:
Wow! This is bs. Just leak it. Noobl got executed for doing stuff like this. Just give it to us. You know whats gonna happen if u keep epic owners in the dark right? Put it this way, "hide yo kids, hide yo wife, and hide yo husbands cuz they taking everyone out here yo!"
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I'm sure mammon and randy are just quaking in their boots with your veiled threats of violence.
All this just confirms that my next device will have to be a Nexus device. We wont have to wait for releases as long that way.
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All this just confirms that my next device will have to be a Nexus device. We wont have to wait for releases as long that way.
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I was just out at the Sprint store the other day talking about just this same thing. Decided to wait a week or so and see what else falls out of the tree. Sprint has lots of new android stuff coming out in the next few weeks.
Mammon and Randy font owe anything to you guys on here. If you can't take 2 mins to register to get a FREE download that they spent HOURS doing then you shouldn't have it. Be a little more appreciative of what people do.
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I tried registering, and when I try to download I get a access denied page. All I want is the leak I didn't need him to do anything to it. I'm appreciative of the devs, don't get me wrong. But the politics that have started to affect peoples experience with what the devs offer is getting out of control.
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I tried registering, and when I try to download I get a access denied page. All I want is the leak I didn't need him to do anything to it. I'm appreciative of the devs, don't get me wrong. But the politics that have started to affect peoples experience with what the devs offer is getting out of control.
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Politics aren't causing anything. Maybe you didn't mean to come across the way you did but it comes across as "entitled". Bonsai is NOT based on the OTA. They don't have it. There is NOTHING to leak as you put it. If it was then we could flash the modem and not be required to odin. To the best of my knowledge the OTA hasn't hit yet. When it does you will see the posts start popping up. Until either be patient or use one of the EC05 ROMs already available.
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Mammon and Randy font owe anything to you guys on here. If you can't take 2 mins to register to get a FREE download that they spent HOURS doing then you shouldn't have it. Be a little more appreciative of what people do.
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Thank you....And honestly it's more then hours.. It was DAYS....
Guys please go about your morning. Drink your coffee smoke your butts and relax. The OTA is coming sooner then later. Trust me when I tell you, your phone will function about the same. All this hxoopla over a OTA is comical at best.
Absolutley ridicilous. You all need to chill out relax. And respect the devs who bring you these roms for free. You act like its owed to you or something. Do u not realize these devs do this on there dime in there own time. Relaaaaaaaaaax. Be patient. This has become so ridicilous no one has respect or appreciates wha they do. And those who complain should be baned in my oppinion.
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I tried registering, and when I try to download I get a access denied page. All I want is the leak I didn't need him to do anything to it. I'm appreciative of the devs, don't get me wrong. But the politics that have started to affect peoples experience with what the devs offer is getting out of control.
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After you register you will receive an email. There is a link in there you have to click on to activate your account and enable posting and downloading.
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abduljaffar said:
Wow! This is bs. Just leak it. Noobl got executed for doing stuff like this. Just give it to us. You know whats gonna happen if u keep epic owners in the dark right? Put it this way, "hide yo kids, hide yo wife, and hide yo husbands cuz they taking everyone out here yo!"
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I like Antione. A city that builds some of the most technologically advanced equipment and machines in the world and what is Huntsville known for? A very uneducated rant to a news station.
http://www.forums.acsyndicate.net/showthread.php/2565-ACS-Odin-Pre-Rooted-Tar!-Root-your-Epic-Touch-here!
Epic Touch Root at the link above!
Am I being incredibly stupid, or is the link to the kernel not anywhere in his post?
Lol no
Its probably still uploading
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yea, everyones waiting for it like crazy. Just check out the guest list XD.
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Lol no
Its probably still uploading
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Ah... I was beginning to doubt even my ability to find and click on a blue, underlined word. It's been a long day.
Yeah I found it 3 minutes after he posted about it. I don't even have my phone yet (will get it Monday). I'm just trying to help my favorite DEV community by flowing out some information!
He's still working on it
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Not trying to sound ungrateful
I thought links to external sites for software\roms was against the rules, e.g. keep everything in one place. (However I can be completely wrong)
Im getting my touch on Monday and am super excited to see root, but having come from an Epic 4G (horrible community) plagued with people selling roms, closed threads and trolling..
I just dont want to see that happen here with this phone.
Perhaps the name *epic* is jinxed.
If I could request one thing, that would be to post a direct link here in the OP.
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I thought links to external sites for software\roms was against the rules, e.g. keep everything in one place. (However I can be completely wrong)
Im getting my touch on Monday and am super excited to see root, but having come from an Epic 4G (horrible community) plagued with people selling roms, closed threads and trolling..
I just dont want to see that happen here with this phone.
Perhaps the name *epic* is jinxed.
If I could request one thing, that would be to post a direct link here in the OP.
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Not trying to break rules. I'm just trying to help. I'm sure it will be put here as well shortly after it finishes. I also couldn't tell you how many Android Central posts I've found linked on these forums.
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I thought links to external sites for software\roms was against the rules, e.g. keep everything in one place. (However I can be completely wrong)
Im getting my touch on Monday and am super excited to see root, but having come from an Epic 4G (horrible community) plagued with people selling roms, closed threads and trolling..
I just dont want to see that happen here with this phone.
Perhaps the name *epic* is jinxed.
If I could request one thing, that would be to post a direct link here in the OP.
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It is against the rules to link to a site where you are required to register to download. You don't for the ACS site, so it doesn't break any rules.
Shabby is the man!
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pyrostic said:
Not trying to break rules. I'm just trying to help. I'm sure it will be put here as well shortly after it finishes. I also couldn't tell you how many Android Central posts I've found linked on these forums.
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I think you are good since you don't need to sign up and buy anything
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^this, we do it because we have adsense up. i know its kinda sleazy but acs gives its devs phones to work with, like for instance my new photon came from adsense revenue from my work on teh prevail/replenish. so is it an underhand technique to make some money off of work? yea... like its stated we dont require registration.
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^this, we do it because we have adsense up. i know its kinda sleazy but acs gives its devs phones to work with, like for instance my new photon came from adsense revenue from my work on teh prevail/replenish. so is it an underhand technique to make some money off of work? yea... like its stated we dont require registration.
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Yeah, and it definitely makes me want to step my game up when it comes to development
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shabbypenguin said:
^this, we do it because we have adsense up. i know its kinda sleazy but acs gives its devs phones to work with, like for instance my new photon came from adsense revenue from my work on teh prevail/replenish. so is it an underhand technique to make some money off of work? yea... like its stated we dont require registration.
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Shabby,
I will put my money where my mouth is, I really appreciate it. Im going to look for a donate link on your site. (couldn't find one, so I will click on some ads)
Like I said earlier, wasn't sure if it broke rules or not. I just appreciate all your devs work and do not want this to become another epic 4g.
dont go donating yet its a bad habit to start. if you wanna donate, t hen donate if your satisfied with teh final product
Do people usually create threads proclaiming they've achieved root BEFORE they've actually achieved a distributable root? Been refreshing the "GOT ROOT!" thread all day, and now following Shabby's quest in IRC. Kind of funny. Not trying to knock anyone, but damn they keep getting my hopes up!
Seriously...this does nothing for anyone yet because there are no drivers at all.
*Goes to little black book to contact Samsung source*
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Do people usually create threads proclaiming they've achieved root BEFORE they've actually achieved a distributable root? Been refreshing the "GOT ROOT!" thread all day, and now following Shabby's quest in IRC. Kind of funny. Not trying to knock anyone, but damn they keep getting my hopes up!
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hey now, i didnt make the thread
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hey now, i didnt make the thread
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No, not this one!
I know I'm about to get flamed all to hell for asking this... and yes I searched but not found anything recent on this forum.
I've heard rumblings that there is an Alpha out there from the Cynaogen Devs, but haven't actually seen a link or a way to get in on that...
We all know about the bubby mod, but it doesn't look like it has moved in a while...
Anyone got anything new to report about CM7 on the SS2E4GT?
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I know I'm about to get flamed all to hell for asking this... and yes I searched but not found anything recent on this forum.
I've heard rumblings that there is an Alpha out there from the Cynaogen Devs, but haven't actually seen a link or a way to get in on that...
We all know about the bubby mod, but it doesn't look like it has moved in a while...
Anyone got anything new to report about CM7 on the SS2E4GT?
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You really need to learn to use the search button.
He's on another forum that I won't name here and the rom is really far along.
Search general, you'll find the info
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No, sorry. I have been following the name that shall not be spoken too. He seems like the type to get something started, get bored, and then go to something else. I don't think he will finish it. I know others have mentioned working on it too. It just doesn't look like much has happened though.
On my Epic mobile phone.
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No, sorry. I have been following the name that shall not be spoken too. He seems like the type to get something started, get bored, and then go to something else. I don't think he will finish it. I know others have mentioned working on it too. It just doesn't look like much has happened though.
On my Epic mobile phone.
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This ^^^^^
Bubby323 I said it
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Amazing, we have the best Sprint phone out there right now but no cutting edge development. Might push me towards the Galaxy Nexus which I really don't want to go to because it isn't really much of an upgrade over the E4GT.
Haven't seen anything posted recently about CM7. Seems like it is at a standstill. People say he is in IRC all the time but I haven't heard any more progression with the Rom so not sure what is going on in there.
I know the next thing to fix was GPS but doesn't seem like that happened. Also put out a date of the 15th for ICS, but I wouldn't get my hopes up for that one...Probably a bad move for him to put a date out there...
yeah, I am kinda surprised that the CM team hasn't given this phone the attention that a lot of others have gotten, especially, since this is the premier phone on sprint, and probably the best all around android phone out right now...
Not for nothing but I am quite sure if you really want to know the answer to your question you can go over to that forum and post a thread. I believe someone will answer you.
I am quite sure it will get done eventually since so many people want it and this phone is one of the best out now. I don't think worrying about is going to make it come faster though. Honestly outside of GPS and wifi tethering it runs pretty damn good.
Although some may not have faith in the kid, you must remember he has still done more than you or I have done to this point. Unless of course you have done more and if so let us know....lol
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wase4711 said:
yeah, I am kinda surprised that the CM team hasn't given this phone the attention that a lot of others have gotten, especially, since this is the premier phone on sprint, and probably the best all around android phone out right now...
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I agree with that statement
It's been a little over a week since the last alpha was released. This kid seems to work in spurts. He probably has school to deal with as well.
Aside from the GPS and 50%-working haptic and the governors besides ondemand being a little off kilter it's a solid kang and stable as hell. If you can go without GPS It's ready to go and fast as hell. Games work, sound, bluetooth, DSPmanager (yay), etc etc etc.
Now...take it over to the other forum. As odd as it sounds the rules are the rules, this conversation doesn't belong here.
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It's been a little over a week since the last alpha was released. This kid seems to work in spurts. He probably has school to deal with as well.
Aside from the GPS and 50%-working haptic and the governors besides ondemand being a little off kilter it's a solid kang and stable as hell. If you can go without GPS It's ready to go and fast as hell. Games work, sound, bluetooth, DSPmanager (yay), etc etc etc.
Now...take it over to the other forum. As odd as it sounds the rules are the rules, this conversation doesn't belong here.
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exactly.... there is a place to ask your question....
Everyone needs to relax and stop saying we can't talk about Bubby323 (oops I said it again). Half the people over here shunning him will go over to the other forums and install his work if they haven't already did it. Like someone said he has done more then anyone else getting CM7 on our phone. So just grow up people. Flame away!
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bubby bubby bubby bubby bubby bubby bubby did some just say bubby!
bbh4r4l said:
Everyone needs to relax and stop saying we can't talk about Bubby323 (oops I said it again). Half the people over here shunning him will go over to the other forums and install his work if they haven't already did it. Like someone said he has done more then anyone else getting CM7 on our phone. So just grow up people. Flame away!
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...sometimes the best way to get rid of an unjust law is to uphold it as rigidly as possible.
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...sometimes the best way to get rid of an unjust law is to uphold it as rigidly as possible.
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Where is it stated that mentioning bubby is against the rules lol. I can see mentioning wikirootz but not a former member of xda.
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Where is it stated that mentioning bubby is against the rules lol. I can see mentioning wikirootz but not a former member of xda.
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Discussion of development that isn't on XDA is prohibited. You can say bubby and rootzwiki all day long. Hell, you can even tell them to go to rootzwiki to find bubby's CM7 kang. But discussing Bubby's CM7 development at rootzwiki--discussing the rom along finer points--is where we went astray.
Considering all of the drama involved (on both sides) I don't think it's fair or realistic to make a judgement of who is wrong and who is right...but do I think that's unreasonable to discuss this in the general forum? No.
...but I don't make the rules.
For the record, didn't mean to start the whole drama about he who shall be not whatever'd.
Just wanted to know if anyone knew of progress made by dev's on this forum or had heard anything from Cyanogen that is more... shall we say... official/reliable/etc.
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Discussion of development that isn't on XDA is prohibited. You can say bubby and rootzwiki all day long. Hell, you can even tell them to go to rootzwiki to find bubby's CM7 kang. But discussing Bubby's CM7 development at rootzwiki--discussing the rom along finer points--is where we went astray.
Considering all of the drama involved (on both sides) I don't think it's fair or realistic to make a judgement of who is wrong and who is right...but do I think that's unreasonable to discuss this in the general forum? No.
...but I don't make the rules.
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I dont want to go back and forth, but General is general info about the device. I recall everyone discussing Deck's cm7 kang for the Evo 4G in the Evo forums, he had no thread here at the time. Then a thread was even made in the dev section called "another cm7 rom", the thread was made by a member not Deck, it wasnt deleted. So whats OK and what isnt comes down to who is OK and who isnt I guess, not whether it benefits the community....
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I dont want to go back and forth, but General is general info about the device. I recall everyone discussing Deck's cm7 kang for the Evo 4G in the Evo forums, he had no thread here at the time. Then a thread was even made in the dev section called "another cm7 rom", the thread was made by a member not Deck, it wasnt deleted. So whats OK and what isnt comes down to who is OK and who isnt I guess, not whether it benefits the community....
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Don't worry man...we're on the same side and feel the same way, we're just going about it in different ways.
http://rootzwiki.com/topic/12440-romunofficial-cyanogenmod-72-alpha-3-12-28-11-bluetooth-is-fixed/
Last updated on the 28th. Discussion is ongoing on the IRC channel.
Personally, I'd rather people know where to go than keep asking here. If mods don't like this, they can feel free to do whatever with it. Otherwise, there's your info.
This might seem like a silly question, but does anyone here worry about there being backdoors or code in the custom Roms like Vicious JB, CM9 nightlies, Liquid Smooth, etc... that is malicious?
My biggest concern is someone getting their hands on my gmail account credentials and banking info. I've searched and not seen this addressed anywhere. Aren't we putting a lot of faith into developers and groups we don't know anything about? We operate on the assumption the code is safe because everyone is using it, and the devs and groups have been around a long time.
Just wondering what thoughts people have on this...
That's why you don't flash a ROM by unknown developers and/or from unknown or unregulated forums. XDA is pretty good about keeping things legit. Always read feedback. As much as these people pick and poke at the ROMs it wouldn't be long if foul play was found.
All in all it was the carriers that were key logging and data mining not any dev on XDA.
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This might seem like a silly question, but does anyone here worry about there being backdoors or code in the custom Roms like Vicious JB, CM9 nightlies, Liquid Smooth, etc... that is malicious?
My biggest concern is someone getting their hands on my gmail account credentials and banking info. I've searched and not seen this addressed anywhere. Aren't we putting a lot of faith into developers and groups we don't know anything about? We operate on the assumption the code is safe because everyone is using it, and the devs and groups have been around a long time.
Just wondering what thoughts people have on this...
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if you have root, and install any apps that need root. any of these apps can potentially steal any kind of info from you that it wanted. same with non market applications(non root and non rooted devices) that you install and dont pay attention to what it can access.
It may be just me, but I wont do any banking online from both my phone and desktop. I normally only buy things online from eBay and Amazon. PayPal is pretty secure too for online purchasing.
crazeco said:
This might seem like a silly question, but does anyone here worry about there being backdoors or code in the custom Roms like Vicious JB, CM9 nightlies, Liquid Smooth, etc... that is malicious?
My biggest concern is someone getting their hands on my gmail account credentials and banking info. I've searched and not seen this addressed anywhere. Aren't we putting a lot of faith into developers and groups we don't know anything about? We operate on the assumption the code is safe because everyone is using it, and the devs and groups have been around a long time.
Just wondering what thoughts people have on this...
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If you think about it, all computer programs have enormous power. They can already read/write anything into non-restricted parts of your hard drive, or even erase it all (though this may take some time in which you can shut it down). Android has more restricted privileges (it has to tell you, upon installation, that it'll be given permission to read your sd card), but these are still highly general.
And a program with administrator/root privileges, can do literally anything.
A rom is basically like a rooted program, so, short of reading all the code and compiling it yourself, there's no way to be sure that it won't do literally anything.
That might not be the answer you want, but that's all there is to it. All you can hope to do is mitigate that risk by installing the bare minimum, most trusted of sources, and it's up to you to decide how much risk is too much.
Maybe anti-virus helps (I scan all apks), but it's a shot in the dark as far as I'm concerned.
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This might seem like a silly question, but does anyone here worry about there being backdoors or code in the custom Roms like Vicious JB, CM9 nightlies, Liquid Smooth, etc... that is malicious?
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There was recently an article on just this subject. I don't worry too much about it, I keep with what I regard as trusted ROMs. I don't bank on my phone, the worst you can do is buy some **** from amazon or eBay and my credit card keeps me safe from fraud, so I don't care too much.
You are right, these aren't the answers I would love to see!
Is the article mentioned the one on ZTE, or custom ROMs? Do you have a link?
Has there ever been a documented case of a popular custom ROM stealing login credentials?
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I'd worry less about backdoors and more about test key signed apps making their way onto your system and stealing data.
A risk for many aosp Roms because they use test keys.
You can always download the cm9 source code yourself and compile it if your worried.
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The only ROM I'd be worried about is MIUI.
Yeah gotta watch out for dem chineses.
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Honestly, it's a valid concern. I'm really not worried at all about such things on official ROMs - Carrier IQ was a slight worry but I wasn't really bothered. Monitoring any data I care about would put a company out of business. However, unofficial ROMs make me nervous.
I think your question can be answered best in Q&A where questions are posted
specifically this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1745289
Thanks
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Why's everyone rude here? Developers of ROMs don't spend hours of hard work just to be dissed. Yo. They do it because its something they mildly enjoy/want to do and wanna contribute. Being rude makes them want to not do this for us. You all can feel free to learn C, Java, C++ and the Linux command line and make us a flawless build. Although most of us aren't really capable of this. Myself included. So next time you wanna complain because something doesn't work, remember, they have lives too. Bug reports are fine, just be respectful! You all watched the noob video, right?
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There's a noob video? Missed that one, gonna go watch it lol :thumbup:
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What I really love is when someone fubars their device because they don't even belong trying to modify them and then they get upset noone can help because their lack of reading directions/warnings has left them with a brick.
This site should be pay-for-use for non devs, that would eliminate a major amount of 1 time posters and all trolls.
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This site should be pay-for-use for non devs, that would eliminate a major amount of 1 time posters and all trolls.
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Most horrible idea I've heard lol. If this happened, no one would come here.....
Also, IN MY OPINION, some devs are too sensitive. There are people in this world who are going to complain and/or expect things they didn't work for themselves. It's just how it is. If I were a dev and people were complaining to me, I'd tell them "go learn how to code your own, then come talk to me." And then go on with my day without it phasing me. I wouldn't quit the work I love and stop sharing things because that one person out of the hundreds decides to complain and doesn't like the way I'm doing things. I've seen it happen, and it's pathetic in my opinion.
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Most horrible idea I've heard lol. If this happened, no one would come here.....
Also, IN MY OPINION, some devs are too sensitive. There are people in this world who are going to complain and/or expect things they didn't work for themselves. It's just how it is. If I were a dev and people were complaining to me, I'd tell them "go learn how to code your own, then come talk to me." And then go on with my day without it phasing me. I wouldn't quit the work I love and stop sharing things because that one person out of the hundreds decides to complain and doesn't like the way I'm doing things. I've seen it happen, and it's pathetic in my opinion.
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I did love it, but not anymore, its been driven out of me by countless insults and utter stupidity that seems to occur constantly. I know its your opinion "some" are to sensitive, but its a personal work I'm sharing, having someone pm me that its an utter waste of time to flash because its a broken pile of....etc is a very personal insult and I see no reason to continue when I get responses like that for my time and effort.
Also, I'm not required to share anything I do, hell I can go pay per build if I feel like it. I did this because people wanted it, and I could provide it, that's all.
Its not making me stop doing something I love, it made me stop loving what I do.
I'm not sure if you dev or not, but really, until you deal with it yourself, you don't really understand where we come from. Some say go f yourselves, others just vanish, and then there's some like me that despite being burned out keep trying make the community happy (and mostly succeeding) and just get to a point where its not worth the insults anymore.
Also I'm sure there are a lot more devs that have been doing this longer then a few months and are maybe used to it.
I don't even own an a100 so its not like I just happened to have made something and shared it, I built it just for the community, I'll never run it myself.
Call it pathetic if you wish, but in my opinion you dunno what you're talking about.
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I did love it, but not anymore, its been driven out of me by countless insults and utter stupidity that seems to occur constantly. I know its your opinion "some" are to sensitive, but its a personal work I'm sharing, having someone pm me that its an utter waste of time to flash because its a broken pile of....etc is a very personal insult and I see no reason to continue when I get responses like that for my time and effort.
Also, I'm not required to share anything I do, hell I can go pay per build if I feel like it. I did this because people wanted it, and I could provide it, that's all.
Its not making me stop doing something I love, it made me stop loving what I do.
I'm not sure if you dev or not, but really, until you deal with it yourself, you don't really understand where we come from. Some say go f yourselves, others just vanish, and then there's some like me that despite being burned out keep trying make the community happy (and mostly succeeding) and just get to a point where its not worth the insults anymore.
Also I'm sure there are a lot more devs that have been doing this longer then a few months and are maybe used to it.
I don't even own an a100 so its not like I just happened to have made something and shared it, I built it just for the community, I'll never run it myself.
Call it pathetic if you wish, but in my opinion you dunno what you're talking about.
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I go through this almost every day actually. Maybe not making ROMs or developing programs for phones, but I have unruly people who comment and criticize my work all day long. It all goes in one ear and out the other because I know that some people are just like that and aren't thankful. I also know that I am good at what I do and that over the past few years I have pleased A LOT more people than I've disgruntled. I guess it has a lot to do with how different people cope with different things. With me, logic trumps emotion and it's very hard for me to take someone saying " your work sucks and you're a [email protected]" seriously lol. If someone pmed me and said my ROM is "an utter waste of time to flash and its broken," guess what? There's a delete button or I would just ignore it. There's going to be people like this no matter what field of work you're in.
I may not be a dev, but I do know how you feel. Alas, I'd like to say that I personally appreciate and respect you and every other dev here. They do great work for free most of the time and I honestly have no place to complain and neither do these other people. However, they shouldn't be discouraged and want to quit. Whatever happened to the "sticks and stones" rule?
Pay per build? That sounds great and I don't know why no one is doing this. If I were a dev I'd be all over making money for my hard work. Hell, I'd pay for a good ROM. It's totally worth it. But then again, it would be hard to regulate because there would need to be refunds given and stuff like that if people aren't happy lol you just never win as a dev, do you?
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haoleflip said:
I go through this almost every day actually. Maybe not making ROMs or developing programs for phones, but I have unruly people who comment and criticize my work all day long. It all goes in one ear and out the other because I know that some people are just like that and aren't thankful. I also know that I am good at what I do and that over the past few years I have pleased A LOT more people than I've disgruntled. I guess it has a lot to do with how different people cope with different things. With me, logic trumps emotion and it's very hard for me to take someone saying " your work sucks and you're a [email protected]" seriously lol. If someone pmed me and said my ROM is "an utter waste of time to flash and its broken," guess what? There's a delete button or I would just ignore it. There's going to be people like this no matter what field of work you're in.
I may not be a dev, but I do know how you feel. Alas, I'd like to say that I personally appreciate and respect you and every other dev here. They do great work for free most of the time and I honestly have no place to complain and neither do these other people. However, they shouldn't be discouraged and want to quit. Whatever happened to the "sticks and stones" rule?
Pay per build? That sounds great and I don't know why no one is doing this. If I were a dev I'd be all over making money for my hard work. Hell, I'd pay for a good ROM. It's totally worth it. But then again, it would be hard to regulate because there would need to be refunds given and stuff like that if people aren't happy lol you just never win as a dev, do you?
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Yes sadly everyone does want something different from any ROM, one will never satisfy all.
Not to get personal but what do you do for work that would subject you to that kind of...feedback? And I just noticed haole lol. Not sure if its what I'm thinking, but I was born in Hawaii, I'm hapa.
Anyways as I said I take it all quite personally, especially now as it was basically a favor for someone who asked me to come back.
That said, on topic again, some people just don't understand the amount of work involved and how calling it trash (this is quite edited ofc) is almost the same a calling me the same thing. They also don't care about the time it takes and just expect it to be given to them, or demand features or additions without considering it may be past the dev's abilities or desire to even do it. It comes down to they think they're entitled to it, when and how they want it, but seen willing to learn to do it themselves.
Also the whole internet mentality of its a screen name, not a person. Insulting pio_masaki isn't the same as standing in front of me and saying the same thing. I disagree with this mentality and prefer to consider it a person, not a screen name. Strangely I'm perfectly fine ignoring some a hole insulting me in person, yet take it personally about a ROM lol.
And pay per build would be quite difficult to implement, especially because it would need tailored per user, the time wouldn't be worth the cost to me, or the cost wouldn't be worth it for the user, I mean figure $10 an hour to build a ROM to be worth my time. User wants a cm10, tablet ui, memory bar added. Takes me 6 hours to implement the changes, sync, build. Would you pay $60 for a ROM for an a100? Not likely. I don't mean you personally, but the average user. They'll just use B1 instead lol. Maybe if I came and installed it for you or something lol
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Felt my rant belonged here. And a note on it, this is not aimed at A100 users, but everywhere on XDA.
Civatio-Retired
Pio-Retired
Linuxsociety-Retired
Waydownsouth-MIA/Retired
These were the major players when it came to ROM development on the A100.
And the general public has annoyed/angered most of them to the point of retirement or quitting.
What is wrong with people today?
I used to love chatting on forums with random people with common interests. Than I came to XDA. I'm not talking to anyone specific here OK, but in general, I've never met a mass gathering of people with common interest that act so hateful, childish, ungrateful, and reduce themselves to petty squabbles on a nearly hourly basis. And I am guilty of these acts of well. We all just need to step back in most situations and ask ourselves can I do this? or aren't I hear to learn and help?
I guess there's no point to my rant...
Looks like it's time to teach myself how to atleast update source.
I'm not talking about an expensive fee, ever $5 per year would be enough to keep the trolls away, Many years ago people said they'd never pay for torrent sites no look at the state of torrenting. Newsgroups are flourishing while free torrent sites are few and far between and their content is lackluster at best.
I would also be up for allowing devs to have ban powers in their own build threads. These guys do a service 99.9999% of us can't do, they do it for free and they get abuse for it. Keep your device stock if you can't act like an adult for one, and don't modify your device if you are unable to handle the real possibility of it going horribly wrong.
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Felt my rant belonged here. And a note on it, this is not aimed at A100 users, but everywhere on XDA.
Civatio-Retired
Pio-Retired
Linuxsociety-Retired
Waydownsouth-MIA/Retired
These were the major players when it came to ROM development on the A100.
And the general public has annoyed/angered most of them to the point of retirement or quitting.
What is wrong with people today?
I used to love chatting on forums with random people with common interests. Than I came to XDA. I'm not talking to anyone specific here OK, but in general, I've never met a mass gathering of people with common interest that act so hateful, childish, ungrateful, and reduce themselves to petty squabbles on a nearly hourly basis. And I am guilty of these acts of well. We all just need to step back in most situations and ask ourselves can I do this? or aren't I hear to learn and help?
I guess there's no point to my rant...
Looks like it's time to teach myself how to atleast update source.
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heh, people,EVERYWHERE are having issues...its like common descency and respect are things of the past..im a college adjunct proffesor and see some reall asshatery ...end of my rant...sorta..for those who do the hard work,much respect,..take what people say with a grain of salt..
haoleflip said:
Most horrible idea I've heard lol. If this happened, no one would come here.....
Also, IN MY OPINION, some devs are too sensitive. There are people in this world who are going to complain and/or expect things they didn't work for themselves. It's just how it is. If I were a dev and people were complaining to me, I'd tell them "go learn how to code your own, then come talk to me." And then go on with my day without it phasing me. I wouldn't quit the work I love and stop sharing things because that one person out of the hundreds decides to complain and doesn't like the way I'm doing things. I've seen it happen, and it's pathetic in my opinion.
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Depends on the individual...I completely agree with this. It's just been my personality since I was young (grew up in Brooklyn, NY...you NEED tough skin there). If I'm doing something and one or two don't like it, oh well, I know there's almost 1,000 (in this case a **** load of people!) who do! But oh well...everyone is different...I would find more satisfaction in the fact i'm contributing to the longevity of a device and others are using MY **** somewhere in this world and enjoying it.
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Depends on the individual...I completely agree with this. It's just been my personality since I was young (grew up in Brooklyn, NY...you NEED tough skin there). If I'm doing something and one or two don't like it, oh well, I know there's almost 1,000 (in this case a **** load of people!) who do! But oh well...everyone is different...I would find more satisfaction in the fact i'm contributing to the longevity of a device and others are using MY **** somewhere in this world and enjoying it.
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I've come across a random guy at a McDonald's using my ROM before lol
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pio_masaki said:
I've come across a random guy at a McDonald's using my ROM before lol
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That's awesome! Must've been a great feeling....
I've never meant anyone with anything I've ever made
That is cool as hell though!
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I try to be kind as possible, I would imagine how all the negative insults would add up and get annoying after a while. I am pretty young and only know enough to use things you devs make and post on here and that's only because i follow directions.But I would like to learn all this stuff and become a dev. Its gotta be pretty cool knowing you make things that hundreds of people use daily
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I try to be kind as possible, I would imagine how all the negative insults would add up and get annoying after a while. I am pretty young and only know enough to use things you devs make and post on here and that's only because i follow directions.But I would like to learn all this stuff and become a dev. Its gotta be pretty cool knowing you make things that hundreds of people use daily
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Just over a hundred on the a100, just over a thousand on the thrive. My last cm10 is over 1020 downloads now. I should charge per download lol
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Just over a hundred on the a100, just over a thousand on the thrive. My last cm10 is over 1020 downloads now. I should charge per download lol
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If you charged per download not as much people would keep downloading every build you put out. I've used almost every single one of the builds you put out, the only other persons ROMs I have used is civato. And if you charged per download I know I wouldn't nearly use as much of your builds as I have. I would only download one of your builds every once in a while, and I don't even know how I would pay you since I don't even have a credit card or debit card or whatever you use to pay online. But if you could manage to keep the amount of downloads you have now while making people pay you would make a lot of money!
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If you charged per download not as much people would keep downloading every build you put out. I've used almost every single one of the builds you put out, the only other persons ROMs I have used is civato. And if you charged per download I know I wouldn't nearly use as much of your builds as I have. I would only download one of your builds every once in a while, and I don't even know how I would pay you since I don't even have a credit card or debit card or whatever you use to pay online. But if you could manage to keep the amount of downloads you have now while making people pay you would make a lot of money!
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I wouldn't actually do that lol
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I wouldn't actually do that lol
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I figured, I was just saying if you did
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I figured, I was just saying if you did
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Wonder if I can setup some kind get paid per download link or something. Probably wouldn't pay enough to be worth the hassle to people anyways.
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