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Epic or evo

Im asking this on the evo thread to so I can hear both sides. I have two days left before my 30 are up and I don't know if I should stick with the epic or jump ship. I do think it is a great phone but I don't want to be stuck with a forgotten phone like with me pre. And the gps is killing me
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My friend has an evo. I prefer my custom epic. We have some great devs here.
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i came from evo about a month ago. i preffer the epic, becuase it has better hardware. the evo does have a slightly bigger screen that is very nice though. the evo also has more support in the dev community. but still epic wins in my opinion

It all comes down to personal preference.
Some pros for the Epic might be:
Hardware Keyboard.
Higher quality screen.
Better graphics processor.
(In summary, hardware)
Some pros for the Evo would be:
Larger screen (though less energy efficient)
Slightly thinner.
Better community support including great CyanogenMod support.
Or if you don't like CM, Sense is ok.
(In summary, software)

philowneus said:
My friend has an evo. I prefer my custom epic. We have some great devs here.
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Epic can't compare to the EVO from a development standpoint. The EVO even has 4G available on Cyanogen now. I have an EVO, my wife just got an Epic, and my EVO has had 2.3 available since last year. If you're going to be rooting your device, IMO, it's EVO without question. FAR more ROMs, far more themes, far more love overall from the dev community. There are people right now working on a Honeycomb port for the EVO based on the 3.0 SDK. When do you think the Epic will EVER sniff something like that?
My wife got the Epic for the great camera features, the screen, and the hardware keyboard (she won't consider a phone without a real keyboard). I would gladly consider a Samsung device if they sold like the EVO did because then everyone would have one and you'd have devs all over the place like the EVO has.
Oh, and my wife also has navigation in her car, so that made the horrible GPS on the Epic a non-issue.

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Epic can't compare to the EVO from a development standpoint. The EVO even has 4G available on Cyanogen now. I have an EVO, my wife just got an Epic, and my EVO has had 2.3 available since last year. If you're going to be rooting your device, IMO, it's EVO without question. FAR more ROMs, far more themes, far more love overall from the dev community. There are people right now working on a Honeycomb port for the EVO based on the 3.0 SDK. When do you think the Epic will EVER sniff something like that?
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We are making progress on CM7, and WiMax should come very quickly to us, as our WiMax driver is now open source and in-kernel. EVO devs had to reverse engineer WiMax to get it working in CM.
As for the Honeycomb SDK ports. An SDK port is usually better known as an Emulator port. They're hackish and not very wise to use on your phone. Definitely a fun proof-of-concept though. I do however have confidence that once Honeycomb hits AOSP, it will be ported to Evo properly.
My wife got the Epic for the great camera features, the screen, and the hardware keyboard (she won't consider a phone without a real keyboard). I would gladly consider a Samsung device if they sold like the EVO did because then everyone would have one and you'd have devs all over the place like the EVO has.
Oh, and my wife also has navigation in her car, so that made the horrible GPS on the Epic a non-issue.
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Yeah, GPS only worked for me on the earliest of eclair versions, it's been very frustrating.

The keyboard was why I went with the epic to begin with, but I only use it for gaming. I heard that game gripper is going to be making a bluetooth game pad so that's not a plus anymore. The main reason im thinking about switching is I don't want a phone that will never be updated. I am rooted with supernova's new rom which its amazing but there are still bugs that im not sure samsung will ever fix. I hate having to walk around my back yard trying to get a gps fix. Every other phone I've had locked within second from my living room.
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Where did I say I was taking about epic developers. I was referring to xda. And stop being a fanboy. Both are great phones. Beyond the fact samsung can suck a fat one the hardware is better on the epic. The software I'll leave to the devs. However, with swype I don't need my physical keyboard anymore. My gps works flawlessly in my epic. The compass however is retarded no matter what fixes I employ.
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If we would of had the source as long as the evo has had theirs for we wouldn't be so far.behind them. Stick with the epic to many evo fanboys out there.
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We are making progress on CM7, and WiMax should come very quickly to us, as our WiMax driver is now open source and in-kernel. EVO devs had to reverse engineer WiMax to get it working in CM.
As for the Honeycomb SDK ports. An SDK port is usually better known as an Emulator port. They're hackish and not very wise to use on your phone. Definitely a fun proof-of-concept though. I do however have confidence that once Honeycomb hits AOSP, it will be ported to Evo properly.
Yeah, GPS only worked for me on the earliest of eclair versions, it's been very frustrating.
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Might want to follow Clearwire...looks like Sprint is jumping ship over to LTE in the near future.

I really enjoy my Epic; more so ocne I decided on a ROM (midNight).
I haven't had any issues with Nav or anything for that matter (uhg, I bet I just jinxed myself)
I am one that HAS to have a keyboard, BUT .. Swype is awesome. The larger screen makes using a virtual keyboard much easier that in the Instinct and Moment days. I swore after the Instict (which took 3-4 presses each time to get the right character, OMG that used to frustrate me.. I digress) i'd never use a virtual keyboard again. I'd say its 50/50 right now with me.
For me the hardware was a big seller and I wanted android without sense on it; now I just bought my daughter the Evo Shift 4G. Rooted it and ROMed it.
The rooting process was NOT as simple as samsung rooting has been with Moment and Epic. I had to push and run all the adb commands. Spoiled rotten is all <grin> course it is brand new and that phone feels REAL solid in your hand.
Anyhow, really goes to person preference. There are subtle differences but overall you can go wrong with any of the 4G devices.
Good luck; let us know what you picked and why.

I think I'm going to stay with the epic. Its just tough cause my last two phones were the palm pre and the instinct. Both phones were supposedly the best phones and ended up being the biggest pieces of crap. Now I do love webos and I know many of you do to but after 14 replacements in the year that I had the phone I couldn't deal with it anymore. If there was a way to put webos on this phone I would new in heaven
i do rom jump quite a bit but currently running supernova with the genocide kernel. midnight is is one of my favs and my heart goes out to him and his family. I read his lost and tired blog all the time. If I wasn't currently laid off I would be sending donations his way.
The main reason I'm staying with the epic is it has such a great community.
And the screen doesn't hurt either
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Quick ?, getting evo soon.

Hey guys, I haven't seen some of these dev names in a while Toast, Damage, Ra ;-) Anyway, I'm replacing my Hero with an Evo in a few days just to get the upgrade. My question is: Since I've been working with the Hero for all this time, is the EVO pretty close? I've spent a few hours reading around and it looks pretty straight forward Better than the Epic which I really don't want to mess with. Looks like there's a questions out there too so I'll see if I can help when it comes in! Thanks guys.

And why is the "White" one so much cheaper? I'm gonna bundle it up like a football player anyway so does it really matter? Who doesn't wanna save some change?

SammyM00782 said:
Hey guys, I haven't seen some of these dev names in a while Toast, Damage, Ra ;-) Anyway, I'm replacing my Hero with an Evo in a few days just to get the upgrade. My question is: Since I've been working with the Hero for all this time, is the EVO pretty close? I've spent a few hours reading around and it looks pretty straight forward Better than the Epic which I really don't want to mess with. Looks like there's a questions out there too so I'll see if I can help when it comes in! Thanks guys.
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Fairly straight forward. Use unrevoked for the 1 click root, then bam, backup then start flashing. All the roms are found in the development section; Personally I recommend CM7 with the Tiamat kernel.

Or wait a few months for evo 3d and less then that for nexus.
A drop of Chuck Norris's semen was placed on Android OS. We now have CyanogenMod.

teh roxxorz said:
Fairly straight forward. Use unrevoked for the 1 click root, then bam, backup then start flashing. All the roms are found in the development section; Personally I recommend CM7 with the Tiamat kernel.
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That's fantastic, thank you. I'm currently running 2.3.3 on my hero with Clockwork and it's working much better than it was months ago. There's still some buzz around that forum but it's pretty easy going. I didn't see anything about Firerat's around here....is there something like that or a need for it? The Evo has decent memory compared to my lil Hero lol.

SammyM00782 said:
That's fantastic, thank you. I'm currently running 2.3.3 on my hero with Clockwork and it's working much better than it was months ago. There's still some buzz around that forum but it's pretty easy going. I didn't see anything about Firerat's around here....is there something like that or a need for it? The Evo has decent memory compared to my lil Hero lol.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=855424
I never looked til you mentioned it, but ta-da.

Crossrocker said:
Or wait a few months for evo 3d and less then that for nexus.
A drop of Chuck Norris's semen was placed on Android OS. We now have CyanogenMod.
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Ehh...I don't know. I was told I lose my upgrade privilege april 1st and I don't see a need for 2 cameras or 3d. Is that true though cuz I'm ready for a phone now. The Hero needs to be put to rest now

SammyM00782 said:
Ehh...I don't know. I was told I lose my upgrade privilege april 1st and I don't see a need for 2 cameras or 3d. Is that true though cuz I'm ready for a phone now. The Hero needs to be put to rest now
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Yea the 3D has the 2 cameras in the back for stereoscopic 3D [how your eyes work]. And honestly the 3D is the current evo, with dual core processing, a slightly better gpu, and a bit more memory internally; I personally think you'll be okay getting the Evo now.

@Sammy. If you want I will sell you mine.mines rooted with all the works already.I found a way to make the Samsung galaxy tab make calls is the reason I want to switch. Let me know
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rjumawan said:
@Sammy. If you want I will sell you mine.mines rooted with all the works already.I found a way to make the Samsung galaxy tab make calls is the reason I want to switch. Let me know
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Sorry man, I ended up ordering one a few minutes before I came back here. I was on the phone with Sprint getting my pin and he confirmed the april 1st deadline. Also he mentioned my TEP carries over, eventhough I bought it from a 3rd party. Good to know.

teh roxxorz said:
Yea the 3D has the 2 cameras in the back for stereoscopic 3D [how your eyes work]. And honestly the 3D is the current evo, with dual core processing, a slightly better gpu, and a bit more memory internally; I personally think you'll be okay getting the Evo now.
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The EVO 3D has a bit more punch - but I'm completely happy with my EVO 4G. I used the Unrevoked's 1 click method, it was brain dead simple. Installed the HTSync, uninstalled it - then installed the hboot drivers, ran the unrevoked app, and in a few moments, I was rooted - w/o having to touch a thing.

A bit more punch yes but I see there's overclocked kernels out there. Who's dominating that one? I'm definitely going to try a sense rom (yea I know) and CM7. I owe it to Fresh, Toast and Damage to see what they've come up with for the EVO after all the work on the Hero.

Sounds good then tomodachi...also myn makes great roms. I do hope you enjoy them.

rjumawan said:
@Sammy. If you want I will sell you mine.mines rooted with all the works already.I found a way to make the Samsung galaxy tab make calls is the reason I want to switch. Let me know
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Really I would like to know how or where you found how to do this cause that is something I was thinking about doing to my tab and I have not found a good working way.pm me I'd you would and give me a push in the right direction
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SammyM00782 said:
A bit more punch yes but I see there's overclocked kernels out there. Who's dominating that one? I'm definitely going to try a sense rom (yea I know) and CM7. I owe it to Fresh, Toast and Damage to see what they've come up with for the EVO after all the work on the Hero.
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Myn's warm 2.2 RLS5 is a great ROM, smooth as butter and easy on battery life. I keep trying new ROMS but always end up coming back to Myn's as my daily ROM. Everything works on it. Just my 2 cents worth.

In listening to the evo noise, myn and mikfroyo seem to be the popular two.
Sent from your EVO 4G. Thanks for sharing your data plan!

Wifflepig said:
In listening to the evo noise, myn and mikfroyo seem to be the popular two.
Sent from your EVO 4G. Thanks for sharing your data plan!
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Awesome, thanks for the feedback guys. It's nice to know I'm coming from AND going to a good forum. XDA is SUPER popular now! Brings the good and the bad though, I understand. I do my best not to answer dumb questions but some of these forums grow WAY too fast. The Epic forum is not friendly at all and it's keeping me from messing with the g/f's phone but you guys are great Thanks again and see you's all real soon. Hopefully by Tuesday.

The Evo is a year old. By the end of your contract it will be 3 and all of the devs will be long gone for newer phones.
Which sucks because the new phones coming out look like they're basically Evo's with dual processors. 3D isn't used widely enough to be worth caring about.
I got a 3D TV a few months ago and and yet to find some 3D porn.

SammyM00782 said:
Awesome, thanks for the feedback guys. It's nice to know I'm coming from AND going to a good forum. XDA is SUPER popular now! Brings the good and the bad though, I understand. I do my best not to answer dumb questions but some of these forums grow WAY too fast. The Epic forum is not friendly at all and it's keeping me from messing with the g/f's phone but you guys are great Thanks again and see you's all real soon. Hopefully by Tuesday.
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Lol we have our fair share of grumpy people, but good on the whole. And thank you, welcome to the club.

I just realized I said "answer" but meant "ask" lol. This is why I don't mess with coding that much ;-) So, I got this "Ballistic Case" for the phone mostly because I have a "Bodyglove" for the Hero and I damn well know it'd be broken today without it. Yea, it'll make the phone a monster but it needs it. I'm in construction so it gets dropped every now and then. Is there anything else I should be thinking about before I put it to everyday use? Early adopters complained of battery life but I'm gonna assume that's been well addressed since then. Right now, I drop to about 55% on the Hero using CM7, current usage. I hope that circle battery mod I like so much is floating around here somewhere. I've got 20 gigs of Hero files LOL.

[Q] I'm getting that feeling again.

This is NOT a Thread that I'm selling my Epic in, I need help deciding whether to keep my Epic or not. I want to change my Epic for an Evo 4G/BlackBerry. I like it and all, but the Epic just doesn't have enough development. I'd have to either get the Evo and Flash my phone EVERYday like I used to with my G1, or get a BlackBerry Bold 9650 and not Flash it at all. the Evo is a nice phone, it has all features working on CM7 which is a big plus for me, it's always up-to-date with MIUI, and was the phone I was going to get first, but it was sold out and I was impatient and I obviously regret it. Or, I could get a BlackBerry. Their much more simple and would meet my standards, but I'm afraid of Android-Withdrawal, but I could take it to OS6 and that looks cool.
So, what does everyone here think. Should I keep the Epic, let the price go down with more use, and wait to see what happens? Should I trade it in and get some cash and buy an Evo in order to fill my flashing addictions? Or should I sell it and buy a BlackBerry Tour2 9650 so that I can't Flash anymore, but have a pretty good phone? And the final option, should I just keep my Epic 4G, and live with it, and hope for the best?

Drop the epic and get an EVO lots of Rome to flash . Unless u Want to wait till September for the gingerbread update . Then the flashing begins for epic.
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Keep the epic...CM7 will be out when official gingerbread in released!

I don't know man. September is a few months away, and that IF we get GingerBread then. And even though, we'll have CM7 ROMs from 3 different developers, a few AOSP from a few different developers, and maybe 2 MIUI ROMs. I wonder if we'll ever have Sense or a Port of maybe the Droid3? Or LG Optimus 2X? I don't think we have enough people.

Someone is already working on a sense port, the same dev that's working on miui. And we have a cm7 alpha 4. We need gingerbread source code to help move us along.
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Id rather QUALITY over quantity!
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Original Android <3ers! said:
I could take it to OS6 and that looks cool.
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I came from a BB bold 9700. I did some beta testing for OS 6 on it. It was very nice but that is all the tinkering you could do with it was put a leak version of the OS or beta test. So I would say you have already commented on "flash withdrawal" so BB will be nice for about a month then you will be bored with it. One of the reasons I got the Epic was because of the keyboard coming from a BB and the screen size. My other options were the Intercept (which my son has) or the Shift but again the screen sold me on the Epic. I didn't even look to root or custom ROMS for at least 2 months after I bought it. But once you start it is hard to go back.
Hi my name is John and I am a flashaholic...LOL

Look up the ORD Thread in the Off-Topic. That's us. That Thread was my idea btw.
And I guess I'll stay. I guessssss...

Sounds like you've already made up your mind and are just looking for someone to talk you out of it... I carry a crackberry and my epic. The crackberry is free and I can do what I want with it, but I still keep an android that costs me ~40 bux a month and has horrific cell coverage most of the time just because it's an Android and the berry sucks for anything other than email.
I don't know much about the Evo other than it's large development base, crappy screen and lack of keyboard. If flashing a new ROM everyday is your goal, then get the Evo and live with the lackluster video performance and on screen keyboards.
If the only reason you're ditching the Epic is due to lack of development, then develop something...

I forgot to mention that the Epic's keyboard sucks and I barley use it. If at all. And I can't develop. My friends will think differently of me. Lol jk, I'm too lazy and I don't have the time. All these devs are high ballers. I wouldn't compare. They wouldn't take me as seriously.

keep the EPIC !!!!! it's a better phone !!!!!! ( just sayin' )

Proof of this concept?

So have u decided what u gonna do?
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TexasEpic4G said:
keep the EPIC !!!!! it's a better phone !!!!!! ( just sayin' )
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Agree until the SGSII
"The greatest respect you can earn is self respect" Louie Simmons

Oh boy! Wait until you turn on the evo screen. You will shat bricks! Since your eyes are used to the super amoled screen, youll notice how god awfull the evo screen looks.
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SINNN said:
Oh boy! Wait until you turn on the evo screen. You will shat bricks! Since your eyes are used to the super amoled screen, youll notice how god awfull the evo screen looks.
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-better hardware
-better screen
-faster
-can play tegra2, xperia play games on it
I mean sure EvO has more roms but how many do you really need. My sister has an EVO and I read thru the EVO section and concluded only 4-5 roms are actually worth trying Synergy-Kingdom, MIkG, MIUI, CM7 or Gingerdeck and thats about it...The last three we will hopefully get once GB is released.

tazfanatic said:
Hi my name is John and I am a flashaholic...LOL
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Hi John!
There totally should be an AFA (Android flashers Anon) cause I'd be in it.
I've only had the Epic for a couple months, but I wouldn't trade it for any of the other phones available for Sprint right now. It's fast, great hardware, and has a full keyboard. I use a handful of other devices for work, and my Epic is the best by far. (my Galaxy Tab is a close 2nd) It feels weird not having some new rom/customization come out every couple weeks or days on the Epic, but I've adapted to a slower dev cycle that I was used to. And honestly, the only thing keeping me from running one of the GB leaks is the lack of a custom kernel to fix the hw keyboard lag. So until there's something that feels and works as good or better than my Epic, I'll be hanging on to it for dear life..

No offense but hopefully sucks.....especially if u upgrade yearly.....the good thing I learned my lesson and not going through that again.
But again that's just me.
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[Q] Upgrade Question

I am on Sprint and love my rooted EVO, I am due to upgrade now and I am wondering what Android phone would be good to get if I replaced my EVO. I really want something that I can root and have the flexibility like my EVO. Is there something out there?
thanks for any insight you have.

Wait till Wednesday because Sprint and HTC are holding a press conference to announce probably a new phone.

Im in the same boat. iv had the evo since day 1 and my upgrade is due very soon. Im going to wait until next wait to hear about the new phones sprint has to offer at the press conference. As much as i want to upgrade I also do not want to! I love my evo and i love the support base it has on XDA with roms and tweaks! I feel like no other phone will have the support the evo has!

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Wait till Wednesday because Sprint and HTC are holding a press conference to announce probably a new phone.
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Very cool, waiting til Wednesday for sure now! Thanks!

Hey,
I would wait because htc has the best phones, but remember sprint will be rolling out with more lte phones they might be worth waiting for since we are paying for premium data, just a thought

In a similiar situation myself. My upgrade became eligible 4/1. I am waiting till wend. But my concern is ...I have great 4g where I am and am concerned with upgrading to lte and being stuck on 3g for a year or more. The Cleveland area is in the third launch group.
To the op the epic touch seems great, I just added my daughter to my plan ( she got a free evo 3d great deal and great phone) and I got to play with it. The screen is amazing and very responsive. It also has great reviews. The only drawback is the forum for it here. I have been stalking it lately and it does not seem near as nice or active as the evo. 4g 's if I am wrong please correct me.
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kpost said:
In a similiar situation myself. My upgrade became eligible 4/1. I am waiting till wend. But my concern is ...I have great 4g where I am and am concerned with upgrading to lte and being stuck on 3g for a year or more. The Cleveland area is in the third launch group.
To the op the epic touch seems great, I just added my daughter to my plan ( she got a free evo 3d great deal and great phone) and I got to play with it. The screen is amazing and very responsive. It also has great reviews. The only drawback is the forum for it here. I have been stalking it lately and it does not seem near as nice or active as the evo. 4g 's if I am wrong please correct me.
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Hey,
I mean the development community is alright for the evo3d and it is a great phone, but the evo is one of the biggest hits and has a HUGE amount of support on the xda forums and we are truly blessed with that and it really isnt something you wont find on any other phone

i would definitely wait to see what the happens with the rumors of the htc evo one

if you're following development for your next phone, i'd say stick to the EVO series.
The Galaxy line heavily favors GSM (since its natively GSM) so development for CDMA galaxy phones are the tricklings from their GSM brothers and because of that ppl get more restless, constantly expecting more from their devs as they hear about what comes out for the GSM variant (i lived it - it WILL get to you, i had the S2 since launch), but no hate intended, the development has gotten up to speed recently and the devs that have stuck around are beasts, but the S2 forum had lost a lot of support/respect from devs bc of the overly anxious community.
The EVO line is basically reserved for CDMA/Sprint. i had the E3D at launch and now my bros E4G and the development/devs/community for each had better vibes. Development seemed to come naturally and more comfortably because there wasn't a GSM variant pushing the devs because "the same phone is getting more development". Ppl are more humane, so Devs stay happy. Devs stay, so we stay happy. From the way it looks, especially with most ppls upgrades coming up, the EVO One X, or whatever, is going to be the direct successor of this phone. so you can expect a lot of the development/devs/community to translate when it drops - of course, not to the same magnitude because its not so much of a game-changer as the Evo 4G was initially, but it will definitely get a lot of attention
I was obviously contrasting GNex + GSIII vs Evo One X but you could always wait a while to see the impacts of each phone and then decide. i'm probably pretty biased bc I cant wait for the EoX to drop but as long as there are CDMA and GSM variants of the same phone, one side is always getting the shorter straw

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Hey,
I mean the development community is alright for the evo3d and it is a great phone, but the evo is one of the biggest hits and has a HUGE amount of support on the xda forums and we are truly blessed with that and it really isnt something you wont find on any other phone
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Looks like MikG devs are looking at the HTC One X (Jet). I'm guessing that's what will be announced tomorrow.
http://themikmik.com/showthread.php?11559-new-htc-phones-whats-your-thoughts

I would hold off a little while...the Evo One, Galaxy nexus, Galaxy Journal (note), the Galaxy SIII are all coming to Sprint by the end of Summer....
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Hey,
Point proven not even a few days later and
http://techcrunch.com/2012/04/04/htc-and-sprint-officially-unveil-the-new-evo-4g-lte/
rawr! I want one now! and its lte! win I think so!

stevovanburen said:
Hey,
I mean the development community is alright for the evo3d and it is a great phone, but the evo is one of the biggest hits and has a HUGE amount of support on the xda forums and we are truly blessed with that and it really isnt something you wont find on any other phone
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I wouldn't go for an EVO 3d for an upgrade.. its a nice phone but would be boring due to the sense 3.0 roms for the evo and 6 months after your upgrade you would want a newer one due to the 3d being.considered old now and the EVO 4G is so outdated sprint no longer sells it

I only mentioned the e3d because my daughter got 1 free I was looking at the s2. I really wanted the new evo one coming out but it being lte, I will lose my 4g till about late 2013 or about the time of my next upcoming upgrade. So if I want to keep wimax what is the best phone?
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kpost said:
I only mentioned the e3d because my daughter got 1 free I was looking at the s2. I really wanted the new evo one coming out but it being lte, I will lose my 4g till about late 2013 or about the time of my next upcoming upgrade. So if I want to keep wimax what is the best phone?
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e4gt hands down. its blows the e3d away in design and performance, imo. if youre a true stickler on signal/reception - mopho, its a world phone too. the iphone isnt even 4g capable. i'd still stick with the e4gt if you must have a wimax device

Quitting on this phone

I was about to buy this amazing phone, when I remembered that it has a locked bootloader which means no CM10.1 which means im stuck with android 4.1. Then I researched a bit and found out that the Samsung Galaxy S4 is highly rumored to come out at CES 2013, which is probably gonna be running android 4.2 and be able to have CM10.1! So I guess this is goodbye!

You can unlock it.

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I was about to buy this amazing phone, when I remembered that it has a locked bootloader which means no CM10.1 which means im stuck with android 4.1. Then I researched a bit and found out that the Samsung Galaxy S4 is highly rumored to come out at CES 2013, which is probably gonna be running android 4.2 and be able to have CM10.1! So I guess this is goodbye!
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You were here? I thought presence was required before saying "goodbye"? Glad you shared your useless thoughts.

samsungepicgeek said:
I was about to buy this amazing phone, when I remembered that it has a locked bootloader which means no CM10.1 which means im stuck with android 4.1. Then I researched a bit and found out that the Samsung Galaxy S4 is highly rumored to come out at CES 2013, which is probably gonna be running android 4.2 and be able to have CM10.1! So I guess this is goodbye!
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Don't let the door hit you on the way out.
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So, SamsungEpicGuy looked at our phone. Then he said that nothing Samsung has is better at the moment but some time in 2013 he is going to be rocking a phone that is better than this one.
Seriously, where is the moderator at? We have Question in the General Section. We have general comments in the development section. Now we have trolls wanting things that don't exist.

Haters going to hate, trollers going to troll. Fuhget about Em lol
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Good effort getting 5 replies in an hour, but could troll harder (mention no microSD slot maybe), 3 stars

Kchitown1977 said:
Haters going to hate, trollers going to troll. Fuhget about Em lol
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Yep, BTW...Rangers lead the way!
I personally am a fan or 101st Airborne. We have a "Rendezvous With Destiny".

kc_exactly said:
Yep, BTW...Rangers lead the way!
I personally am a fan or 101st Airborne. We have a "Rendezvous With Destiny".
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I hear. I ain't gonna hate on the rangers..... We still all brothers in arms
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The bootloader was unlocked....Read development.
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Poor guy, by the time the S4 comes out there will be something "better" from LG or HTC etc.... he's probably waiting on the iphone 8 lol
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Need help making a choice...
Hi everybody. I thinking about getting a new phone but I'm having a hard time deciding between the evo lte or the lg optimus. I currently have the evo 3d. Honestly I'm leaning more towards the optimus. Is it really as good as it seems? Obviously the specs are amazing but if you actually have the phone or have used it, would you recommend that I get it too. I also noticed more activity on these forums which is a good thing. I'm not as skilled as most of you but I like to root my phone and all that... Thanks for the help!!

Lurien said:
Hi everybody. I thinking about getting a new phone but I'm having a hard time deciding between the evo lte or the lg optimus. I currently have the evo 3d. Honestly I'm leaning more towards the optimus. Is it really as good as it seems? Obviously the specs are amazing but if you actually have the phone or have used it, would you recommend that I get it too. I also noticed more activity on these forums which is a good thing. I'm not as skilled as most of you but I like to root my phone and all that... Thanks for the help!!
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I would honestly stay away from the Evo 4G LTE. I was a pre-order coming off an OG EVO. Sense 4 is way over aggressive on task killing and the stock mail apk would not translate html from my work exchange server , so I got lines of code. The phone also has very poor performance picking up lte signal. Deck's cm10 made the phone much better (Deck is the only saving grace in my opinion).
Sprint switched me into the S3 last week, and I picked up a lgog off Craigslist for cheap. I think both of these phones are superior to the Evo 4Gm lte . I do like the Evo 4G lte display though.

Lurien said:
Hi everybody. I thinking about getting a new phone but I'm having a hard time deciding between the evo lte or the lg optimus. I currently have the evo 3d. Honestly I'm leaning more towards the optimus. Is it really as good as it seems? Obviously the specs are amazing but if you actually have the phone or have used it, would you recommend that I get it too. I also noticed more activity on these forums which is a good thing. I'm not as skilled as most of you but I like to root my phone and all that... Thanks for the help!!
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Personally after owning a 3D, idk how you could consider HTC again. I wanted to throw mine against a wall. I absolutely love the Optimus G and would highly recommend it to other people. The camera isn't as good as the Evo LTE or the GS3 but it's good enough for what I need. Performance is lightning quick, battery life is great, very high build quality, and the screen is gorgeous. And LG's UI is actually really nice, I like it much better than Sense.
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Personally after owning a 3D, idk how you could consider HTC again. I wanted to throw mine against a wall. I absolutely love the Optimus G and would highly recommend it to other people. The camera isn't as good as the Evo LTE or the GS3 but it's good enough for what I need. Performance is lightning quick, battery life is great, very high build quality, and the screen is gorgeous. And LG's UI is actually really nice, I like it much better than Sense.
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I understand what you're your saying; but when I bought the 3d I was coming from (ironically) an LG phone. But that phone was very, very basic. So when I got the 3d, my first smartphone, it was the biggest thing to me at the time. Reading your comment I can tell that I'll have that same feeling if I get the Optimus G, if its as great as many people say. Thanks for your insight.

Ok, guys I am extremely sorry for what I have posted. I obviously was a complete dumb ****. I wasn't thinking at the time because I was doing so many things outside of android life, So Sorry.

samsungepicgeek said:
Ok, guys I am extremely sorry for what I have posted. I obviously was a complete dumb ****. I wasn't thinking at the time because I was doing so many things outside of android life, So Sorry.
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Your name is samsungepicgeek, you sure you got a life??
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Lurien said:
I understand what you're your saying; but when I bought the 3d I was coming from (ironically) an LG phone. But that phone was very, very basic. So when I got the 3d, my first smartphone, it was the biggest thing to me at the time. Reading your comment I can tell that I'll have that same feeling if I get the Optimus G, if its as great as many people say. Thanks for your insight.
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My first smart phone was the Evo 4G. It was mind blowingly awesome. Like I literally loved everything about it, except for the top mounted power button that felt extremely cheap, and they continued that with the Evo 3D. Why HTC keeps thinking the top is the best place for the unlock/power button is beyond me...I'm so happy that it's on the side with the OG. I ended up with a 3D cause I shattered the screen on my 4G and they sent me one through insurance. After two years with HTC, I hate Sense and I'm just ready to move on. I'm not really brand biased, so I was open to LG. I had a LG Shine years back and I absolutely loved that phone. Even without a buzzing dev community it's still a great phone. I think you'll be very happy here though

New to this group. Had HTC for a long time and now the Samsung Epic 4G Touch (love this phone). But i have looked at all the options out there and it does seems that this Optimus G is the BEST out there (at least for now, and i i looking for a phone now!!!) So just ordered it...and will be in this forum from now on.
JP

samsungepicgeek said:
Ok, guys I am extremely sorry for what I have posted. I obviously was a complete dumb ****. I wasn't thinking at the time because I was doing so many things outside of android life, So Sorry.
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What's done is done. Welcome back!
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joao2307 said:
New to this group. Had HTC for a long time and now the Samsung Epic 4G Touch (love this phone). But i have looked at all the options out there and it does seems that this Optimus G is the BEST out there (at least for now, and i i looking for a phone now!!!) So just ordered it...and will be in this forum from now on.
JP
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Sounds like we had a similar update path. I went from the original Evo 4G to the Epic 4G Touch(which I sadly dropped in my soup at a sushi restaurant, phone still kind of works, btw, but the charging light won't turn off) and am now also on the Optimus G. With that being said, here's what you will miss:
1. The super saturated Super AMOLED Plus display. It will take time for your eyes and brain to adjust to normal color temperatures so don't let that put you off.
2. Samsung's Smart alarm. If you don't know what it is though, then you won't miss it, but it was a built in alarm function that would wake you gently to nature sounds. I missed it horribly...at first...until I downloaded Alarm Clock Xtreme and a $0.99 nature sounds album from Amazon.
3. Getting used to not having a microSD card slot.
4. Removable battery...not a huge deal since the Optimus G battery is much larger capacity, but I did have the stock battery on my Epic 4G Touch swell before I got the battery replaced, hopefully that won't be an issue with the Optimus "non-removable" battery.
5. Not going to lie, the camera on the Epic is better. With that being said, You may want to look into Camera ZoomFX for the time being as the Optimus has an issue with locking in autofocus, losing it and locking in again....even when you touch to focus. The aforementioned app doesn't appear to have that problem so it's believed to be a problem in LG's camera software, not necessarily the hardware.
With that being said, here's what you'll gain:
1. Quite possibly one of the best LCD displays out at the moment(excepting the Droid DNAs freakishly high pixel count). 720P movies look amazing on the Optimus G.
2. 50GB box.com account. Just download it from the play store directly from the phone and they will make 50 GB available to you for free. You can then download it on your Epic and use it to easily transfer files from one phone to another wirelessly as well as using it on your computer as well.
3. I never did the ICS update on my Epic as I was rooted, so maybe this wasn't an issue, but ICS no longer separates app storage partitions so the full amount of formatted memory on the phone is available to be used for app store.
4. 2 GB of ram(I guess in truth you're gaining one since the Epic had 1GB).
5. If you have an MHL adaptor for your Epic, rest assured knowing it will work with the Optimus G, unlike the GS3 and Note 2 where Samsung broke with traditional MHL compatibility forcing you to buy their overpriced MHL adaptor.
6. Working GPS. I dare you to download GPS test on the Epic and then the Optimus when you receive it and go outside and see how long they take to get a lock and how many satellites the phones are actually connecting to. I think you'll be pleasantly surprised. My Epic would never connect to more than a handful at a time and had accuracy ranges measured in tens of yards. The Optimus G connects magnitudes faster and to more satellites with an average accuracy of 10 feet as far as I've observed.
7. Build quality to put Samsung to shame. Co-worker of mine got the GS3 about the same time I got my Optimus and for 14 days, he really had to convince himself he was ok with the subjectively chintzy feeling of the GS3 in comparison to the solid construction of the Optimus(he came from an original Evo as well so weight and solidity were what he was used to).
8. Less tangible, but the hope is that since this phone is a near clone of the Nexus 4, there should be plenty of development on it and since LG is in the Nexus program now, hopefully Jellybean will follow in short order.
9. Effective radios. I already mentioned GPS, but I've found wifi to be much stronger with this phone as is 3G(I won't compare 4G since they use different technologies). In one of the other posts someone posted the FCC measurements and this phone is right up there with the Motorola Photon(Moto usually seems to design some of the most effective radios out there so that's high praise).
10. Last but not least, his beast of a processor. The Snapdragon S4 Pro quad-core with the Adreno 320 GPU. Quadrant scores in the mid to high 7000 range are now within your grasp(for what it's worth...bragging rights, maybe). With that being said, the phone behaves like it's on steroids. Nothing slows it down.
Welcome to the group!