[Q] ROM Manager - EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I attempted to search the forum first, but search feature has been down for me for the last 10-15 mins.
I am rooted using unrEVOked, currently using MIUI ROM....I have a question regarding ROM Manager, I made a backup of the Stock rom before installing the MIUI rom, if I want to switch to Fresh rom, and I make a backup of the MIUI rom, can I essentially go back and forth between the 3 ROMs (stock, MIUI, Fresh) by just using the recover ROM ? Will it put back all installed apps, layout of app icons, settings etc...?
This sounds like what the program would be useful for, but I am not sure if it is that easy?
Thanks in advance! sorry if this has been answered before

Thats essentially what it is used for. I would recommend getting the Titanium back up pro also so you can have your apps between different Roms. Have fun and remember to clear caches before flashing, and NANDROID!!

Thank you for your quick response.
I have mybackup pro, so I use that to backup apps.
The nandroid/rom manager backups do not maintain apps then, correct?
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They back up the apps on the rom itself. If you install an app on a different rom it will not transfer over to a backed up rom.

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[Q] Back Up Procedure

Hi guys,
I just started flashing my phone with custom roms and was wondering what the best program is to backup a rom/ just settings, apps and contacts; to save me all the trouble of downloading each app aswell as setting up the settings again.
As im new to this i would really appreciate it if someone could explain how to go about doing all this.
Thanks for all your help.
UmZy said:
I just started flashing my phone with custom roms and was wondering what the best program is to backup a rom/ just settings, apps and contacts; to save me all the trouble of downloading each app aswell as setting up the settings again.
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There are some Market apps that are useful for this - Titanium Backup and MyBackup in particular. I use TB myself and find it excellent. However I think the free version may require you to confirm each time you restore. Worth checking both out - both have free and paid versions available, so try the free ones and see which you like best.
preacher65 is right.
As for backing up your complete ROM i suggest you use CWM recovery, which you used to flash custom ROMs with, to backup your ROM (aka Nandroid). You'll find an option in the recovery for backup, or alternatively you can do it via ROM Manager.
Nice thing about this is that when you flash something and your phone doesnt boot, you can just go into recovery and choose 'Backup and Restore'>'Advance Restore' and choose only a certain part(.img file) of the backup to restore.
Thanks for the quick replies.
Also i was wondering if i was to back my settings nd apps nd contacts from a RCMIX3D KINGDOM ROM and restore it on a LeeDroid ROM or any other custom rom, is it possible to do this or will there be a problem because of the 2 different roms?
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UmZy said:
Also i was wondering if i was to back my settings nd apps nd contacts from a RCMIX3D KINGDOM ROM and restore it on a LeeDroid ROM or any other custom rom, is it possible to do this or will there be a problem because of the 2 different roms?
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There are mixed opinions on this, so this is based on my experience.
I think Contacts should be fine, as they're pretty much a standard format from ROM to ROM (someone will correct that if I'm wrong, I'm sure - I use Google contacts so mine are always synced).
User apps should be okay to restore, at least if you just choose to restore the app only - it's recommended to only restore data for apps selectively, when you really need to. Don't restore any system apps across different ROMs, though.
And phone settings are likely to be incompatible, as the two ROMs have a different HTC base (0.81.651.0 for Kingdom, 2.36.405.8 for Leedroid).
UmZy said:
Thanks for the quick replies.
Also i was wondering if i was to back my settings nd apps nd contacts from a RCMIX3D KINGDOM ROM and restore it on a LeeDroid ROM or any other custom rom, is it possible to do this or will there be a problem because of the 2 different roms?
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Google should take care of your Apps and Contacts for you.
Thanks, also does titanium backup phone settings aswell??
Nd if i to restore a bsckup to a newer version of the same rom e.g from 0.2 RCMixKingdom ROM to 1.2 RCMixKingdom ROM; would da backup effect anything ?
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Might be a really dumb question....

So I can't help but realize that a lot of people here flash roms like crazy. Well, I am the kind of guy that likes to have my own cool setup with all my home screens, like apps, widgets, etc.
Is there a way to back up and restore so when I flash a new rom I can restore where all of my apps were on what screen and maybe even my widgets and what not.
Any help would be greats, thanks guys.
Yes. You can use titanium backup to backup your launcher, or you can use ROM manager to backup your current ROM.
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But what if I switch to another rom? The only option I have is to download that launcher and restore on that launcher? Makes sense if you can't, but just wondering.
I've been wondering the same thing myself...I've been testing out different roms all week since I got this thing...I've stopped trying to set up email, backgrounds, themes, or widgets. If there was a way to restore the home page layouts, that would be great.
I user go launcher ex. I set up my home pages the way I like it. Then I export the settings and import settings on new ROM. As far as individual settings for apps, use titanium backup.
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I use SPB as my launcher of choice along with ti and does exactly that folders and all. infanct its so good that as long as i have root on any device and the same apps installed say on a tablet then when i install SPB on it from the market it already knows my layout. if im missing an app or two then they just dont show up. but alteast i dont have to rebuild my entire "desktop" all over again.
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synergeticink said:
So I can't help but realize that a lot of people here flash roms like crazy. Well, I am the kind of guy that likes to have my own cool setup with all my home screens, like apps, widgets, etc.
Is there a way to back up and restore so when I flash a new rom I can restore where all of my apps were on what screen and maybe even my widgets and what not.
Any help would be greats, thanks guys.
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After you make a backup in CWM and flash the new rom, you can always try to advanced restore in CWM just the data partition. I have done this before but it doesnt work across builds with wayyy different frameworks or basebands. Goodluck.
Just use titanium backup... it will restore the launcher and all of its data! Its great... it works even if you delete the launcher or flash a different rom
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This really depends. If you're using the stock launcher that came with the rom, You really don't want to restore system apps on titanium, it'll cause issues. If you're like a lot of users and use a third party launcher, it's easy, because all the data gets easily backup up with it. If, for example, you're using a touchwiz based rom, it's not really easy. An alternative would be to download the modded touchwiz 4.5 (on the boards somewhere, I forget where exactly), and install that on your next rom. This way, when you do the setup for it, it'll be on /data and can be easily backed up with titanium backup, and restored. (Your widgets will show an error and you'll have to re-add them, but that happens on almost all launchers when a restore is done.)
As for doing an advanced restore with cwm, it's really hit and miss. What you're doing is restore the entire /data partition from one rom to another. If the roms have the exact same base, and very minimal differences, this might work. Some changes between roms this method works flawlessly, others it causes issues. You won't know until you try. Just do a backup in cwm, and a backup with titanium backup (do user app backup only, don't do system.) This way you have both ends covered.
I always use my backup pro. It restores app + data if rooted, and other data like system settings, contacts, bookmarks etc..
Its in the market check it out.
synergeticink said:
So I can't help but realize that a lot of people here flash roms like crazy. Well, I am the kind of guy that likes to have my own cool setup with all my home screens, like apps, widgets, etc.
Is there a way to back up and restore so when I flash a new rom I can restore where all of my apps were on what screen and maybe even my widgets and what not.
Any help would be greats, thanks guys.
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To answer your question a little more directly and differently than others, the answer to your question is no.
There is no way to restore your home screens exactly how you had them before you flashed a ROM. You can restore your apps and settings via the methods offered by others, but it will not put shortcuts and widgets exactly where you had them on your home screens.
For the home screen import, you have to already have a ROM installed and a home screen set up. That is only for installing a different launcher.
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Android Revolution said:
To answer your question a little more directly and differently than others, the answer to your question is no.
There is no way to restore your home screens exactly how you had them before you flashed a ROM. You can restore your apps and settings via the methods offered by others, but it will not put shortcuts and widgets exactly where you had them on your home screens.
For the home screen import, you have to already have a ROM installed and a home screen set up. That is only for installing a different launcher.
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Actually if you're using mybackup root or pro. You can... Backup> data> android home.
Well this is if you flash a rom that uses the same launcher (i think.. Haven't tried it with different launchers). Most roms are tw anyways. But this is probably your best bet.
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KillaHurtz said:
After you make a backup in CWM and flash the new rom, you can always try to advanced restore in CWM just the data partition. I have done this before but it doesnt work across builds with wayyy different frameworks or basebands. Goodluck.
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This is what I do every time I flash a new rom works every time. Do the titanium thing to just as a back up.
Keep a copy backed up on your computer, in case you wipe you emmc " did that once" lol
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Do titanium backup and restore only data no system and don't enter any Google email if you have more than 1 phone to have a same setup, then do the ROM backup when all apps restored. That backup will be universal (without Google ID) and you can restore to any phone (your wife, friend..) Once restore they just enter their own ID and all set.
Titanium restore needs to answer yes no install...for each app. Take about 30 min to restore.
CWM process faster but for same ROM.
changing ROM needs titanium backup and restore without Google ID.

flashing new rom W/O losing shortcuts

is there a way to flash rom's but still have all the apps and screen icons in the same place? I like flashing but hate setting up all the apps and screens to the way i like it..
No your going to lose your apps and placement. If you use Titanium Backup or my backup root you can at least restore your apps. I would not recommend restoring data though it usually causes issues. I just like a fresh install so that I do not have to worry about issues anyway.
bigp750 said:
is there a way to flash rom's but still have all the apps and screen icons in the same place? I like flashing but hate setting up all the apps and screens to the way i like it..
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If you're going between GB and ICS then you do want to do a fresh install of everything. Same if you're going from a custom ROM to a different ROM. Just about the only time it's really safe to keep the apps and settings is when you're updating to a newer version of the ROM you have. Titanium Backup is what you want to use to back-up your apps and system settings.
Some ROM's have a No-Data version you can flash also. Sfhub's usually do. The No-Data version will keep the apps and everything how they were.
bigp750 said:
is there a way to flash rom's but still have all the apps and screen icons in the same place? I like flashing but hate setting up all the apps and screens to the way i like it..
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Yes there is. Make a nandroid of your rom setup the way you like it. Then, whenever you want to switch to a new rom, flash that rom, boot, go back into recovery, then go to restore, advanced restore, advanced restore of data from nandroid. I do this all the time and it works very well. This will only work when going from gb rom to gb rom or ics to ics rom though. Going from gb to ics data restore causes issues.
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Yes there is. Make a nandroid of your rom setup the way you like it. Then, whenever you want to switch to a new rom, flash that rom, boot, go back into recovery, then go to restore, advanced restore, advanced restore of data from nandroid. I do this all the time and it works very well. This will only work when going from gb rom to gb rom or ics to ics rom though. Going from gb to ics data restore causes issues.
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You can still run into problems with restoring that way. You really do want to do a fresh install most of the time. It's kind of a crap shoot as to whether or not it will get buggy from restoring apps like that.
If you're using a custom launcher like Nova or ADW, you can back it up with titanium backup then restore it with data once you've got your new ROM installed and it will still have your screens set up. You'll still need to restore/redownload all your apps though.
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Most custom launchers have a backup/restore preferences setting also. Go launcher saves to sd so it doesn't delete its settings between flashing.
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Most custom launchers have a backup/restore preferences setting also. Go launcher saves to sd so it doesn't delete its settings between flashing.
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On gingerbread I always used the No Data format all between roms. It was usually from stock to Calks though and never had any issues. But these days going from ICS to ICS i just use Titanium Backup and depending on what launcher I am using just lose widgets and maybe 5 minutes total time out my day.

[TUT] How to easily restore data when changing roms.

Hey fellas.
I don't know if this is wrong section or not, but i have something to share.
Are you a sort of person who changes ROMS alot and finds it buggy to keep restoring data and installing the apps again.
This Thread Is going to guide you how you can easily restore your apps and data easily.
Note: Only tested on Gingerbread.
Note: I have only tested this on the same CM7 versions, like Restoring between Apocalypse and Miracle V4, and Official CMs. This might not work for other ROMS which are not Cyanogen Mod like Adrenaline Rom, Stocklite, Lewa, Joy Os and many others.
This is not any sort of personal mod but is something included withing our Ace.
For this to work you ofcourse need to be rooted and have Clockwork Mod Recovery.
Guide:
TO BACKUP DATA AND APPS.
1. First, On your ROM. Install all the apps that you need on other ROMS, and all the data you need on your current ROM
2. Reboot into recovery.
3. Glide to Backup And Restore.
4. Make a Backup.
Now when you install another ROM, you ofcourse need to wipe data and cache and stuff.
Guide:
TO RESTORE ONLY DATA AND APPS.
1. On your new rom, Reboot into Recovery.
2. Glide to Backup and Restore.
3. Select Advanced Restore
4. Select the date of the backup you made above.
5. Restore data.
6. Reboot.
You'll see that all your apps of the previous rom are now working with the new rom without wasting lots of time in installing.
If you end up in bootloops, or hangs try restoring cache too.
And If your device is not booting and is stuck at splash screen. Try adb reboot recovery or pull out battery, boot into recovery and to full restore.
Or one of the best way Is to use Titanium Backup
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iSxy said:
Or one of the best way Is to use Titanium Backup
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sime times titanium backup is buging and the rom stop work
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tested with a lewa backup restoring to a fresh lewa install. bootloop.
same with cm7 - lewa and cm7 to cm7 :/
I use titanium, but for post rom flash i use gobackup, handles contacts, messages as well as apps, but also remembers your widgets, folder layouts etc. By far the quickest solution following a reset.
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Or one of the best way Is to use Titanium Backup
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Yes you can even n use titanium backup but I heard people have issues with it, and in titanium backup the restoring is way slower plus the apps need to be restored manually..
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dimspace said:
tested with a lewa backup restoring to a fresh lewa install. bootloop.
same with cm7 - lewa and cm7 to cm7 :/
I use titanium, but for post rom flash i use gobackup, handles contacts, messages as well as apps, but also remembers your widgets, folder layouts etc. By far the quickest solution following a reset.
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I didn't test it on lewa bit it works perfectly along cm7 versions...
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How about cm9?
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i tried on stocklite 7.1 and didnt work :/ had to restore with titanium,thanks for sharing anyway !
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hey.yudi said:
How about cm9?
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Can work on cm9 as long as you're using same version. Like it works for CM9 and Paranoid Ancroid.
titanium backup seems to be best
as I switch between CM and Stock ROM.........
thanks for this tip:good:
mohitchechani said:
titanium backup seems to be best
as I switch between CM and Stock ROM.........
thanks for this tip:good:
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i aggre
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Is there any way to backup data only?, Not to backup the entire rom.
Using another recovery?
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golbe said:
Is there any way to backup data only?, Not to backup the entire rom.
Using another recovery?
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No...as I know ace supports only like 3 recoveries. Clockwork mod is the best. You can backup data using titanium backup by touching menu button then batch and click run next to backup all user data and system apps. Then you can restore them the normal way. But in recoveries you have to backup everything.
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I have both titanium and go installed and I find go superior for restore post rom flash
I have the titanium apk saved on my sd card, install that first, use that to install gobackup and s2e, then use go backup to restore the rest.
Go saves contacts, but also call history, messages, as well as your launcher and widget layouts as well as all apps, and it seems much quicker to restore things than titanium is. The downside is less options when restoring, but for a quick reinstall its the quickest. I use titanium for the other features such as freezing apps, restoring old backups, data etc.
You do know that this is just basically flashing a rom over another without data wiping. This method can be buggy 50%.
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dhalham said:
You do know that this is just basically flashing a rom over another without data wiping. This method can be buggy 50%.
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where is flashing a rom over another without data wiping? The rom is installed in the usual way, cache cleared, factory reset etc, install the rom. and then restore your apps. Its worth noting that the op just said he has tested it in CM7 based rom, so hes not changing rom source.
that said, several people in the thread, myself included have said it does not work with their cm7 based rom. I tested and got bootloops.
And honestly there is no point when there are perfectly good backup packages like titanium, go etc to use.
Can you confirm this is working with amarulls script installed.. ?
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Titanium works the best!!
I tried carrying out some tests. And, it works perfect across CM7.
I flashed cm7 nightly, two of the RCs, and some stable releases and this method works great.
It's also a lot faster, because I am a gamer. And installing the games again, then copying data to appropriate location is very time consuming.
So this method works best for me.
I will try testing if it works on Lewa, Joy, Mokee OS..etc.
But, as long as the base is CM7, I don't think there is any problem that can come across.

Best Way To Restore

I'm not a flashaholic, but do from time to time especially when a new version of my favorite ROM is released. I was wondering what the easiest and quickest to restore my phone to the way it was before flashing the new ROM. I mean apps and launcher. I have Titanium and My Backup pro but it still takes a couple of hours of messing around to get back to normal. If anyone has a quicker way I'd love to hear it.
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sndtubes said:
I'm not a flashaholic, but do from time to time especially when a new version of my favorite ROM is released. I was wondering what the easiest and quickest to restore my phone to the way it was before flashing the new ROM. I mean apps and launcher. I have Titanium and My Backup pro but it still takes a couple of hours of messing around to get back to normal. If anyone has a quicker way I'd love to hear it.
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I assume you have a custom recovery installed since you mentioned flashing roms? If so, do a complete nandroid/backup (CWM/TWRP) of your phone just prior to flashing anything (good idea to do this prior to any flash). In TWRP, you can name your backup file so you can remember what rom/kernel/modem/recovery/etc you had at the time of this backup. Usually takes around 5-6 min to back up ~ 2Gb (and conversely, to restore). When you restore, do proper partition wipes first, then restore your desired backup... phone should be exactly as it was (apps, launchers, rom, settings, etc).
Thanks. I do use TWRP. I always nandroid back up before flashing a new rom. I guess I didn't understand what a nandroid backup was. I thought that it would reinstall all of the old stuff like the old rom and kernel in case the new rom borked something. So if I backup and flash a new rom and then nandroid restore, I will have the new rom and kernel with my apps and launcher intact? If so, then very cool.
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Thanks. I do use TWRP. I always nandroid back up before flashing a new rom. I guess I didn't understand what a nandroid backup was. I thought that it would reinstall all of the old stuff like the old rom and kernel in case the new rom borked something. So if I backup and flash a new rom and then nandroid restore, I will have the new rom and kernel with my apps and launcher intact? If so, then very cool.
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Correct me if I'm wrong but doesn't the nandroid have the rom you backed up? Restoring that backup will wipe the new rom.
I use titanium backup as well and it takes me less than 5 minutes to go back to normal. Apps and launcher the same.
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Thanks. I do use TWRP. I always nandroid back up before flashing a new rom. I guess I didn't understand what a nandroid backup was. I thought that it would reinstall all of the old stuff like the old rom and kernel in case the new rom borked something. So if I backup and flash a new rom and then nandroid restore, I will have the new rom and kernel with my apps and launcher intact? If so, then very cool.
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I got you... thought you were looking for a way to restore a complete previous setup (rom/kernel/radio/data/recovery) if you didn't like the rom you are on... sounds like you just want to restore /data partition (which can be done in TWRP)... but won't restore system partition apps (risky). If you are just looking to put your previous 'user' apps/data back, TiBu is an option (only restore "user" apps/data or "missing apps/data". I don't think TiBu will restore your widgets/launchers as the were, but you can individually (within the app) backup Apex, and Nova launcher settings and homescreens... then restore them after you're up and running on the new rom

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