[Q] Any way to kill zune completely? - Windows Phone 7 General

Hi guys
Just easing into life with WP7 and one thing i've noticed is that Zune seems to remain in the background no matter how one exits the interface (evidenced by pressing volume rocker on the start screen - the mini zune interface appears at the top of the screen... with my music sitting paused, rather than stopped).
Is there any way to truly exit the player (aside from rebooting the device)?
Cheers
mshagg

Why would you care to?
The OS is managing this closely one would assume as it's a core feature in the device...

lip said:
Why would you care to?
The OS is managing this closely one would assume as it's a core feature in the device...
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Only a minor issue but i have no need to see the zune interface appear at the top of the start screen everytime i adjust the system volume throughout the day, with a song paused at the moment i stopped listening to it. Im not fussed if zune wishes to remain open in the background, as internet explorer seems to do - i just dont need it showing itself during my interactions with the device.
Note it only does this after using Zune. If i turn the device off and restart, the zune interface is not present on the start screen when adjusting volume - until i again enter zune to listen to music.

Spergin' much?

I don't see why this is a problem really? I mean the box size remains exactly the same even if you have a song playing or not?

Buy the iPhone if you hate Zune

There is no method that I know of at the moment but they might add one when they add proper multitasking.

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Audio Manager, Today Plugin, what is the point??

Someone please enlighten me how do you use Audio Manger or the Today Plugin player in the latest VM6 roms?
They seem useless since there is no way to turn off the screen!??
Do all of you play listen with the screen and backlight on?
There's quite some design flaws in WM6, off course I would like audio to keep playing when using the standby button, or at least have that option!?
In WMP you can at least assign a key to turn off/on screen.
Look at iPhone, offcourse it continues to play music when using the standby button, as it should be.
M$ has a LOT of work to make VM7 user friendly.
jompao said:
Someone please enlighten me how do you use Audio Manger or the Today Plugin player in the latest VM6 roms?
They seem useless since there is no way to turn off the screen!??
Do all of you play listen with the screen and backlight on?
There's quite some design flaws in WM6, off course I would like audio to keep playing when using the standby button, or at least have that option!?
In WMP you can at least assign a key to turn off/on screen.
Look at iPhone, offcourse it continues to play music when using the standby button, as it should be.
M$ has a LOT of work to make VM7 user friendly.
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good point, I dont use i either! I dont see the use in it. If you cant toggle the screen (turn of the screen saves battery)
Bram87 said:
good point, I dont use i either! I dont see the use in it. If you cant toggle the screen (turn of the screen saves battery)
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I agree, this is why I have stuck with TCPMP...
jompao said:
Someone please enlighten me how do you use Audio Manger or the Today Plugin player in the latest VM6 roms?
They seem useless since there is no way to turn off the screen!??
Do all of you play listen with the screen and backlight on?
There's quite some design flaws in WM6, off course I would like audio to keep playing when using the standby button, or at least have that option!?
In WMP you can at least assign a key to turn off/on screen.
Look at iPhone, offcourse it continues to play music when using the standby button, as it should be.
M$ has a LOT of work to make VM7 user friendly.
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use Coreplayer or TCPMP
I "device lock" it after i press play. There's a device lock program that automatically sets the backlight to be off after 10 secs when executed.
I just set my backlight to turn off as well, used my device playing through audiomanager for about an hour today at work, screen off.
supadupa111 said:
I "device lock" it after i press play. There's a device lock program that automatically sets the backlight to be off after 10 secs when executed.
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Which program is this?
chordmasta said:
I just set my backlight to turn off as well, used my device playing through audiomanager for about an hour today at work, screen off.
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But screen and backlight is still on sucking battery even when using the keylock when Audio Manager is playing. Screen is dimmed a litte but backlight is still on. I can't understand how poorly designed theese apps are from HTC.
Armstrongs Device lock
Search the site for it. It can be configured to turn the screen off when activated. You can also map a button to it. I haven't tried on WM6 though. Worked like a charm with Pocket player and WM5.
not sure if you guys notice...but audio manger lets you make your ringtones right from the phone. this is a nice feature for me...as i use to make my ring tones using nero onthe computer...now when someone emails me a song i can edit it right on my phone for ringtone use...i like that alot. other than that...it looks nice..but i still use media player or core player. but hey...one more app can't hurt...

Locking utility

I am not the only one to complain about incoming calls and locking utilities but I haven't found a clear answer yet. That's why I start this new post. Let me clarify that I'm talking abouts UIs other than the TF3D.
I've tried several UIs (WAD2, Spb MS3) in conjunction to several locking applications but there is always something wrong :
1) The built-in locking utility seems to be the most reliable but the tweak which enables that (section 4.1 in HD tweak) also suffers from the blacklight problem. That is, if the backlight turns low (e.g. while playing music) it never turns high again unless the power button is pressed.
2) S2U2 (1.62) takes a lot of time to wake up on an incoming call either when using WAD2 or Spb MS3. When it does, the WM Caller ID does not display correctly. In some cases, the phone wakes up but it takes 4-5 more seconds to start ringing. Furthermore, the hardkeys are not locked. As a result, when you try to take the HD out of your pocket it is highly unlike that you'll press no button accidentally ... A similar situation holds for the S2U2 built-in Caller ID screen.
3) S2U2 does not cooperate well with WAD2. When the phone wakes up by pressing the power button it keeps flipping between WAD2 and S2U2 for 2 seconds. This time is enough for allowing all WAD2 softbuttons to be pressed accidentally ...
3) Throttle Lock looks very nice but it does not support any exceptions. When the alarm clock rings, you have first to unlock the device and then press the "Dismiss" button
I'm desparate. Any help would be wellcome
I am in the same shoe as you. I have touch HD and I tried many locks but all have some conflicts with windows or other software in one way or the other.
Temporarily, I use AE Buttons and set all keys to double clicking...
Have you tried Pocket Shield? I don't know, if it is compatible to WAD2, but for me it is the best locking app that I tried.
Hi
Pocket Shield is really nice but :
* It DOES flicker a lot on incoming call if you want to keep the HTC dialer (software author recommends disabling this dialer, but I won't... it's so much better than WM6.1's built-in dialer).
* It does not provide features such as showing next appointments or upcoming alarms. It's nice to be able to wake the device, have a quick glance at information about your next appointment and then leave the device automatically go back to sleep (like in S2U2 for example). Maybe there's a plugin for such a thing in Pocket Shield ?
Just my two cents (I'm still looking for a better solution )
Cheers,
mysterd said:
Hi
Pocket Shield is really nice but :
* It DOES flicker a lot on incoming call if you want to keep the HTC dialer (software author recommends disabling this dialer, but I won't... it's so much better than WM6.1's built-in dialer).
* It does not provide features such as showing next appointments or upcoming alarms. It's nice to be able to wake the device, have a quick glance at information about your next appointment and then leave the device automatically go back to sleep (like in S2U2 for example). Maybe there's a plugin for such a thing in Pocket Shield ?
Just my two cents (I'm still looking for a better solution )
Cheers,
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Showing appointments etc is not a prerequisite for me as I have all this info on my home screen (Spb MS3). On the other hand, flickering is a major problem as it may take a lot of time to stabilize. In the meanwhile, the call is lost !
It seems that you use a Diamond, not an HD. Could an HD owner describe the time delay on his device using PocketShield ?
Furthermore, can somebody verify that PocketShield can handle exceptions (GPS software, music players, alarm clocks etc) ?
Touch Diamond and Touch HD have the exact same hardware, CPU speed, RAM etc...
gagvas said:
Showing appointments etc is not a prerequisite for me as I have all this info on my home screen (Spb MS3). On the other hand, flickering is a major problem as it may take a lot of time to stabilize. In the meanwhile, the call is lost !
It seems that you use a Diamond, not an HD. Could an HD owner describe the time delay on his device using PocketShield ?
Furthermore, can somebody verify that PocketShield can handle exceptions (GPS software, music players, alarm clocks etc) ?
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At the moment Pocketshield satisfies me. It has exception function, you can add some programs to unlock when they start. For example G-alarm...
Although I haven't tried Pocketshield yet, I think that I've got the solution to my problems. It is called LockMeLite (LmL) and it's free. It does not power off the device (as S2U2 does). It only locks it when the device wakes up.
1) Flickering takes no more than half a second and only the left softkey of the HTC Caller ID appears (not the full Caller screen).
2) The screen reacts almost instantly. I checked it many times by calling myself.
3) The ring tone takes 2-3 second to sound but I think I can live with that.
4) No appointments, tasks etc info. Only battery level, time and missed calls. No problem for me as I use Spb MS3 and all this info is available at the home page
5) Spb alarm works almost fine. It almost overrides LmL and can be dismissed or snoozed without need to unlock the device.
6) Very small app (658 kB cab file including four background images).
7) No battery drain.
8) Pocketmusic works fine as it does allow the device to sleep but it only turns the backlight low.
9) I haven't tried it with any GPS software yet.
Please try it and post your comments. Just discovered this small piece of art and for me it works better than any other locking app.
LockMeLite is good but it's not compatible with Resco keyboard and FingerKeyboard2 on the Touch HD. These keyboard gets lifted off screen or does not redraw well.
It does not work with Resco Contact Manger 1.11 as well on the Touch HD.
gagvas said:
Showing appointments etc is not a prerequisite for me as I have all this info on my home screen (Spb MS3).
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I do use SPB MS3 too, but to look at the home screen, you must unlock the device, which I don't want to do...

Feedback for Microsoft?

I've looked all over Microsoft's WM7 sites and I haven't seen any place to give feedback on the phone. So far I really like it and coming from a quite happy 3 year iPhone user, I think that says a lot. I tried wireless sync last night, that's really cool.
I know an update is coming, I know it's going to be a work in progress, but where can we give some legit feedback? I know I have a good few suggestions and feature requests but haven't seen anywhere to do so.
Any ideas? Plus what features/changes would you like to see?
Obvious ones are custom ringtones, copy paste, etc. but I'd like:
1. set time before the passcode lockout goes into effect instead of every stinkin time
2. when a call comes in, not having to slide up AND press accept call
3. a reoccurring message notification if you missed a text
4. option to keep battery and signal level displayed at all times
5. a way to get back to messages while in a message (back goes to wherever you were before, not necessarily directly to messages)
6. A flashlight app that uses the LED would be nice
HTC has a flashlight that uses the LED, except on the one device they have with a xenon.
I'd suggest a car mode or docked mode for Zune, leave the screen powered on, unless I turn it off when connected to power and listening to music. If unplugged or paused, turn screen off according to settings in power management, (also if the proxmity sensor is tripped for more than 15 sec, assume I put the device in my pocket or flipped it over [while plugged in]).
Post bugs here:
http://social.answers.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/windowsphone7/threads
Also let me know if you get this bug:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0eCY0QckCj4

Mango Beta 2 Bugs

Let's create a list of all the bugs and quirks that are in the Mango beta build. I'll try to edit my post and consolidate what everyone finds.
Phone + Messaging
Call history does not show the duration.
Music
Pressing the search button to bring up Bing while music is playing switches the music to Mono. (Related to Bing Music?)
When playing music and switching to the next song the animation looks broken.
If charing the battery and playing music at the same time, the music will pause when the battery switches to fully charged.
Artist image for music downloaded using smartDJ with Zune Pass is not showing up.
Zune live tile doesn't update playing artist until the app is entered
Web + Email
Snippets for HTML mail is broken. Instead of text in the mail, it shows HTML code
Going back in the browser returns you to the top of the previous page, even if you were scrolled down the page.
Email notification sound is broken sometimes
When opening an attached JPG, the phone flashes an error quick then shows the image
Email server searching doesn't work properly with Gmail accounts
Bing
Bing Vision stops scanning after reading several items. Starts again after reopening the app.
Misc
16-bit banding issue on certain phones (reports of Optimus, Surround, Mozart, HD7)
If you are on alarm screen and then switch the screen off, the lock screen flickers next time you turn the screen on. I have seen this happen with many apps which have black dominated screen
In Greek, showing all characters as capitalized doesn't make sense
Animated live tiles sometimes show white edges while scrolling
When playing music and switchting to the next song the animation looks broken.
1) Snippets for HTML mail is broken. Instead of text in the mail, it shows HTML code
2) if you are on alarm screem and switch the screen off. Next time when you switch on the screen, the lock screen flickers. I have seen this happen with many apps which have balck dominated screen
3) Artist image for music downloaded using smartDJ with Zune Pass is not showing up.
If you're on a webpage with multiple links, and you select one that require you to scroll down, after viewing that link, and going back to the main page, you will be at the top and have to scroll back down again.
Call History Sucks
The call history in the mango has great defect,
it doesn't show the duration or the time!
i have my contacts with Greek characters! when i open a profile at the top the name of the contact apears with capital letters which are messed up in Greek language
16 bit banding has shown up on my LG Optimus 7, never had this before installing Mango.
gsidhom said:
The call history in the mango has great defect,
it doesn't show the duration or the time!
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Not a bug: On my current NoDo'd DVP call duration has never shown. Time the call was made or came in shows, but not actual length/duration of the call.
New email notification sound issue still exists. 50% of the emails received sounds broken.
This bug was already known in previous versions of WP7, I'm disappointing they didn't fix it yet.
p.s
I own HD7 device.
Nothing to add to the list, but a suggestion to change the tile to "Mango Beta2 Bugs" or something to that nature. This way, when the official mango comes, there won't be any confusion.
Isnt this a beta build meant for developers to build applications with? Whats the point compiling a list of bugs that likely wont exist when it goes final?
I don't think this is a bad idea. Heck, someone important might look at it.
1) Color banding on the Surround. I thought 32 bit color was supposed to be enabled in Mango, but I guess not.
2) Angry Birds is so choppy, I don't even like playing it. Of course, the colors are washed out too.
Of course I know this "feature" isn't yet included, but please MS, let me block certain "friends" from my feed. Some of them have nothing better to do but play frikkin games all day.
Still 16 bit banding exist on my htc mozart even after updating to mango
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Of course I know this "feature" isn't yet included, but please MS, let me block certain "friends" from my feed. Some of them have nothing better to do but play frikkin games all day.
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Just hide their posts on facebook.com and refresh your people feed. They'll disappear.
Seems like game spam would be annoying regardless of where it was.. may as well kill the source
Color banding in my HD7.
I've noticed color banding only in the benchmark app which is weird, maybe 3rd party apps need to implement 32 bit colors on their own?
Also Bing Vision stops working after a few attempts if you try to scan a few different things, it just refuses to take scan altogether, and the only way to fix it, is to exit the app and come back.
When opening an jpg image attachment in an email, a notification displays "cannot open an attachment of this type" but it quickly opens anyway.
Edges of Tiles rendering - see sometimes when scrolling slowly the edges of the tiles will be white, then render correctly.
They still haven't fixed the bug that if you're charging the phone, and its connected to your home network, but your sync PC is off, it'll still try to sync with that PC even with no connection found...
Also, they haven't fixed the comma on a misspelled word duplicating that word... It happens to me sometimes, both NoDo and Mango
I've noticed that on my HD7 the apps list is divided into alphabetical subsections but on my Omnia7 it is still as it was in NoDo !!
The mango build is the ofcourse the same on both
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Just learned I hate s10+ & android

I just learned I hate s10+ & android
S10+:
Uninstalled bixby using adb. Button still remains.
The orientation of volume keys and that damn bixby button that i had to create a samsung account to disable it. While powering the device i need to grab the other side with my fingers and squeeze which the volume keys are
Samsung phone app: on speaker screen sleeps after 10 or so seconds.
Found an option called smart stay. enabled that and found lift to wake option..
no way to disable face recognition to open up the screen to the lock screen. I end up hitting the power button to turn the screen on it gets turned on by seeing a face right after that I hit the button and it Powers off this is in a matter of seconds. can't break a habit of powering on the screen with the power button. And that's if the face recognition works. Sometimes it doesnt turn on. There is a way to disable this but face rec to unlock the phone has to be enabled, defeats the purpose.
Trying turn screen off, end up taking a screenshot.
Battery sucks.
When you grab the phone watching something horizontal, the palm covers the bottom speaker.
?Now i really hate s10+, no aptx hd support?
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Android "10"
Autofill fighting each other, Android, google chrome and lastpass auto fill is a disaster.
i find myself double tapping on the screen, i see the button as an example get tapped & button gets like shaded as if pressed, gotta tap again.
The clipboard, select all moves from the original place and jumps to "more" for more clipboard options.
the cursor upside down gps logo drag is stupid, draws up a magnifying glass, very irritating.
voice to text is just bad.
Some times highlight something, the clipboard does not popup, gotta grab the page n scroll it, clipboard pops up.
Google suggestions & auto correction sucks.
Battery sucks.
No screen protector, holding down on a field to paste, gotta hold field 2 or three times for paste clipboard pops up.
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I'll update this op as I go long or if I recall any bloops.
Let the discussion begin. Be adults.
strange... i have no problems at all... from button, auto fill, clipboard.
but sorry... i dont use any of samsung app.. (lastpass, keyboard, voice command etc).. I'm using google.
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The only issues I am having with Android 10 is AT&T not knowing how to properly roll out an update before getting rid of all the bugs.
Last Pass is finally usable on Android 10. Not sure why your having problems with it.....
Hitti2 said:
I just learned I hate s10+ & android
S10+:
The orientation of volume keys and that damn bixby button that i had to create a samsung account to disable it. While powering the device i need to grab the other side with my fingers and squeeze which the volume keys are
Samsung phone app: on speaker screen sleeps after 10 or so seconds.
Android "10"
The damn clip board fighting each other, Android, google chrome and lastpass auto fill is a disaster.
i find myself double tapping on the screen, i see the button as an example get tapped & button gets like shaded as if pressed, gotta tap again.
the clip board again, select all moves from the original place and jumps to "more" for more clipboard options.
the cursor upside down gps logo drag is stupid, draws up a magnifying glass, very irritating.
voice to text is just bad.
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I'll update this op as I go long or if I recall any bloops.
Let the discussion begin. Be adults.
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Weird. Just return the phone and get one that you like.
Maybe Android ai likes to piss me off eh.
https://www.blog.google/products/android/introducing-android-9-pie/
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bloops are already happening, clipboard did not want to pop up highlighting text, had to move the web page for it to pop up.
google suggestions & auto correction sucks.
wow
Hitti2 said:
Maybe Android ai likes to piss me off eh.
https://www.blog.google/products/android/introducing-android-9-pie/
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bloops are already happening, clipboard did not want to pop up highlighting text, had to move the web page for it to pop up.
google suggestions & auto correction sucks.
wow
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Android Poops allover Crapple. So much more you can do with Open Source. Customisation and apps designed to do specific things that the IPhone can only dream of.
Id rather have a phone i can personalize rather than be held hostage by Apple and limited software .
Darkat70 said:
Android Poops allover Crapple. So much more you can do with Open Source. Customisation and apps designed to do specific things that the IPhone can only dream of.
Id rather have a phone i can personalize rather than be held hostage by Apple and limited software .
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I have been Android user since the beginning and have a 2nd device which has been an iPhone for 4 years.
Android is superior to iOS in many many ways. The thing is, for the average Joe, the person who will use Verizon's Message+ app just because it was installed, for this user iOS is a better option. Simply works and also simple... no carrier crap.
I know a lady, had the IPhone 6, but really liked the look of the S7 or S8 , cant remember which, she only had it for a month, but she is like theres too much stuff on this to understand, so she went back to iPhone, then decided the IPhone was boring and migrated back to the S9.
As for performance, my partner's friend has the latest iPhone and when they are on a call together in messenger her friend keeps dropping out, my partner has the Samsung A50 because she dosent like curved edges. There never seems to be issues with other people in messenger.
And i think most governments use iPhones because they can't be modified by the average person. And this is why apple sales get their quota, government organizations and Reporter's. Even Mr Trumpty prefers his Samsung over IPhone.
This thread is just weird. If there are multiple apps that handle the same call on Android then you are presented with a prompt by the OS to select a default app to handle that function and then going forward that app will be the one to answer the call when an action triggers that function so I don't understand how this user is getting multiple clipboard apps getting triggered by the clipboard function.
to add another thing there's no way to disable face recognition to open up the screen to the lock screen. I end up hitting the power button to turn the screen on it gets turned on by seeing a face right after that I hit the button and it Powers off this is in a matter of seconds. can't break a habit of powering on the screen with the power button.
OP updated.
The phone turns off because the proximity sensor flashes so your ear doesn't cut people off
Perfectly sensible
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Davey Dual Sim said:
The phone turns off because the proximity sensor flashes so your ear doesn't cut people off
Perfectly sensible
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We're talking about loud speaker is on.
Hitti2 said:
to add another thing there's no way to disable face recognition to open up the screen to the lock screen. I end up hitting the power button to turn the screen on it gets turned on by seeing a face right after that I hit the button and it Powers off this is in a matter of seconds. can't break a habit of powering on the screen with the power button.
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LOLWUTT? Just take the phone back and get something else because clearly you don't have a single clue what you're doing or you're trolling.
Only complain I have is that my 3-4 sot equates to 60-80% usage of the battery. I've cleared cache, put most apps to sleep, no gos, no wifi (at work no wifi) no media except Spotify to and from work (1hr total) no nothing autosync.
I'm sick of it. Makes me miss my old phones more because I could leave those things on and get 2 days avg out of them before charging, and that includes watching Netflix, Hulu, YouTube or my Plex server
Hitti2 said:
to add another thing there's no way to disable face recognition to open up the screen to the lock screen. I end up hitting the power button to turn the screen on it gets turned on by seeing a face right after that I hit the button and it Powers off this is in a matter of seconds. can't break a habit of powering on the screen with the power button.
OP updated.
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There is an option in settings > biometrics and securtity> face id > "stay in lock screen" after the phone is unlocked by face-unlock.
You just toggle that switch on.
If you toggle this on, next time you press the power button, the phone will get into the lock screen, it will unlock (if it reads your face), but it will stay in lock screen (so as you can read your notifications etc.). You will have to scroll up to get into the home screen.
I suppose that's what you want to do, correct?
madvinegar said:
There is an option in settings > biometrics and securtity> face id > "stay in lock screen" after the phone is unlocked by face-unlock.
You just toggle that switch on.
If you toggle this on, next time you press the power button, the phone will get into the lock screen, it will unlock (if it reads your face), but it will stay in lock screen (so as you can read your notifications etc.). You will have to scroll up to get into the home screen.
I suppose that's what you want to do, correct?
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So i have to enable facebrec to enable this??
I hate it even more. There is a way to disable this but face rec to unlock the phone has to be enabled, defeats the purpose.
OP updated.
leo72793 said:
Only complain I have is that my 3-4 sot equates to 60-80% usage of the battery. I've cleared cache, put most apps to sleep, no gos, no wifi (at work no wifi) no media except Spotify to and from work (1hr total) no nothing autosync.
I'm sick of it. Makes me miss my old phones more because I could leave those things on and get 2 days avg out of them before charging, and that includes watching Netflix, Hulu, YouTube or my Plex server
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I recently installed a new fx30 battery in my moto x pure edition, I got more life in a day than this. thats with "android 10" optimized bat, adaptive power saving and have apps to be put to sleep, setup.
Hitti2 said:
So i have to enable facebrec to enable this??
I hate it even more. There is a way to disable this but face rec to unlock the phone has to be enabled, defeats the purpose.
OP updated.
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Can you please explain what you are trying to do?
You want to press the power button and not get into home screen, but stay in Lock screen, correct?
If you don't enable face id, it will not unlock and take you to home screen directly. It will stay in lock screen till you unlock it either by the fp scanner or the pin etc.
If you want to have face id enabled, but not get into home screen directly, you toggle the switch I told you in my previous post.
So what is it that you want to do?
He's trying hard to troll, you just covered every other sensible option.

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