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[REQ] SMS / Missed Call Alert - Visual Notification

I was looking at my HD today and had an idea.
I use a silicone cover/case, and hence it covers the power button (LED light)... so my idea was some sort of visual notification via the display for various items (such as missed call, new SMS, etc.)
This idea comes in part from the Diamond's visual notification via the round circle/d-pad.
I think this would be possible... here is my thinking:
Since the phone already "wakes up" during a call/missed call... and there is the "wake on SMS" option as well -- then after either, have a program change the screen to black (hide TouchFLO or Today Screen), and display a design or color pattern on the screen. I think the program would also have to prevent the screen from going to sleep and/or offer a timer setting for this. In any case, displaying something on the screen to alert you to a missed call... something like a screen saver.
Once a program is created, then the fun part will be creating new designs / patterns / colors for the screen.
Any ideas on this?
Thanks.

Anyone?
Or anyone at least think this is a good idea? Or perhaps, are there other programs out there like this?
Thanks!

I think it's a great idea, to be honest.
With the creativity of people in these forums, it shouldn't be an impossible mission

keithrl79 said:
I was looking at my HD today and had an idea.
I use a silicone cover/case, and hence it covers the power button (LED light)... so my idea was some sort of visual notification via the display for various items (such as missed call, new SMS, etc.)
This idea comes in part from the Diamond's visual notification via the round circle/d-pad.
I think this would be possible... here is my thinking:
Since the phone already "wakes up" during a call/missed call... and there is the "wake on SMS" option as well -- then after either, have a program change the screen to black (hide TouchFLO or Today Screen), and display a design or color pattern on the screen. I think the program would also have to prevent the screen from going to sleep and/or offer a timer setting for this. In any case, displaying something on the screen to alert you to a missed call... something like a screen saver.
Once a program is created, then the fun part will be creating new designs / patterns / colors for the screen.
Any ideas on this?
Thanks.
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Sounds interesting I wonder how it would be on the battery though. I think it would be nice if the screen would light up but maybe not as bright as the notification on the Raphael but something to that effect. I like the idea though.

i like it too.. i think im gonna try writing something for this one!

Any updates on this one?
Or any one know of any other programs out there that might do something similar. I hate not knowing I have missed calls/SMS.
Thanks all...

I saw in an other post a program that vibrates/sounds the device in a set interval until you acknowledge the missed call/sms.
No idea where it's located, but the search functionallity can do wonders.

I use S2U2, and if I understand your requirements correctly, it does exactly that.
I usually have the phone switched off using the power button (so the screen is blank). If there is a missed call or a new sms, my phone automatically wakes up and S2U2 gives me notifications about new SMS and/or missed call.
Under the Windows power settings, I have the phone configured to turn off backlight after 10 seconds, and the the option 'Turn off device if not used for' option disabled. This makes sure my device does not go back to sleep if there is a missed call or SMS. You also need to have the option to show missed calls and SMS alerts in S2U2 settings enabled. So when a call is missed or new SMS, my phone will be awake with backlight switched off. If I tap on the screen, S2U2 will show my anything I have missed.
I think you also need 'Wake up on new SMS' option enabled in HD Tweak.

PhoneAlarm
Or you can use Phone Alarm, this can be set to repeat alarm noticifcations for missed calls, messages, etc including vibration and sound options for each type of alarm. Also, offers an otpion whether or not the backlight comes on. Have been using this softwarte for years, also provides profile options.
www.pocketmax.net

Hennyb said:
Or you can use Phone Alarm, this can be set to repeat alarm noticifcations for missed calls, messages, etc including vibration and sound options for each type of alarm. Also, offers an otpion whether or not the backlight comes on. Have been using this softwarte for years, also provides profile options.
www.pocketmax.net
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Hi, Checked out the Website, Looks Good... Does it work with TF3D??
Tnx

Thanks for the replies,
I actually already use PhoneAlarm from Pocketmax. It works GREAT on my Touch HD. What's neat about it, is that it has an option where it makes a softkey at the bottom to toggle between your Today Screen and TouchFLO.
What exactly I was looking for was some "visual" notification of a missed call/sms. This would be both functional and "cool" to see.
The thought comes from the HTC Diamond, where the light around the d-pad flashes in a circle.
Of course on the Touch HD, the only option would be on the display. So I was thinking of cool screen designs (like a screensaver), where if you had a missed call or SMS, the phone would "wake up" but then show some sort of design.
[As I was typing this I paused at this point and went to research S2U2 more... and I am going to try it out right now -- it does seem to do what I am looking for!]
However, if anyone reads what I mentioned above and has any other ideas (or even a more of a simple program) that would do the same, let us know... THANKS AGAIN EVERYONE!!
-Keith

I installed S2U2 and i didn't find it of any use (My original intention was to install to provide the Iphone Like Slier). I recall it does show you on screen if you have received a text, not sure if their was a visual notification.
I will have to read up on S2U2 and see what other benefits it has.
So many Apps out their that do so many different things, it's like being a kid in a sweetshop. I guess it's about deciding which app to use based on what you need it for.
Nevertheless...Absolutely brilliant work from all those who actually take time out to develop these apps - and can't thank them enough!
Let me know how S2U2 works for you and meanwhile i'll read up on it again
All the best...

I tried phonealarm, but
Heh Keith,
I actually love phonealarm and have used it for years. But now, though I've been in touch with the developer who btw provides excellent cs, I'm quite convinced that PA is causing a heavy battery drain. I've been experimenting with PA on, then uninstall it, reinstall it, etc. Yesterday, started with a full charge and with PA, 5 hours later down to 60%. I was able to uninstall PA with about 60% charge remaining and immediately, the drain stopped. Charge stayed above 60% for the next several hours. BTW, this is on a fuze. I've also checked all settings in PA. The developer says he did note that he saw a big power drop from the PA logs, but couldn't determine what caused it. Curious how PA is working for you.

I just don't get it
So maybe I'm making a fool of myself-talking to myself at least. I just did a whole day's worth of testing with and without PA. Now there seems to be no difference or perhaps just a very little. The only things that I did different this time was loaded PA after I installed all of the other apps (rather than before) and I didn't enable touch flo support. I wonder if that could be it. With touch flo support enabled, then touch flo runs in the background? Did I read that somewhere in another thread?

If you dont want/need all the bells & whistles & want a 'light' program try alarm pal by the same mob as phone alarm.
I've been using it for awhile on the HTC HD.
If I miss a call/sms/mail it plays an alert every few minutes till I acknowledge it.
I figure I am more likely to 'hear' an alert than 'see' an alert
http://www.pocketmax.net/alarmPal.html

s2u2 v1.61 for HD

this may be a very stupid question to may of you but allow me to ask what is the correct version i should use s2u2 for my HD?
i think should be VGA/WVGA. please correct me if i am wrong.
thanks in advance

Yeah that is the correct one - HD is WVGA

you are correct. the touch HD is WVGA but for s2u2, the VGA and WVGA are installed through the same .cab

i dont really get the idea of this program. it just adds one extra barricade when i wake the device from standby. well, it locks the green phone button, thats great. but thats the onliest useful thing i can see.it just takes more time to get the device ready

well its useless if you dont set your machine to wakeup on sms and such
otherwise its useful as any locking program is: it locks the machine when needed

... and S2P (slide 2 play, a mp3-player) integrates well! You can control music playback right from the s2u2 screen! =D

ok, but the touch automatically locks when screen is turned off. so i dont get the need for an extra lock. and the s2p player is, well..., not really good ;-)
ill shut my mouth now

hey dude it's just your opinion aint it

str0nz0 said:
i dont really get the idea of this program. it just adds one extra barricade when i wake the device from standby. well, it locks the green phone button, thats great. but thats the onliest useful thing i can see.it just takes more time to get the device ready
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Well I have to agree with you. I initially use it because it's cool but after using for a while I feel the way you feel too. But one of its function is useful, for locking the phone while incoming call, it avoids accidently pressing the keys at the bottom of the phone while struggling to take the phone out of your pocket/pouch/bag etc.
I tried to install s2u2 1.61 but it doesn't work anymore. It used to work with 1.52. Any idea?

I have also found with 1.60 that my reminders will flash up for about a second then disappear (i can't dismiss them).
Lock system notification is off - any ideas what would be causing this? (I could always dismiss notification in 1.45)

simple phone lock required. can you write one for us all

Hello everyone
After trying all the phone lock software out there I still can’t find what I’m looking for, what I’m looking for is so simple an icon in the start menu to lock the phone then r2u or t2u & unlock when phone rings and that’s it. I don’t like the idea of having to press the power button to wake up the screen to be able to unlock the device I’m also not interested in all of the other features that most of the phone lock’s have. Can someone help?
I have tried sensor lock I did like it a lot but I was unable to configure it and you could tell it was running in the background as the screen would jump. Plus throw in my case and a few beers and I know I’m going to drop it.
Many Thanks Jez
A list of phone lock programs you will need to search for them as some of the links aren’t applicable any more and I did need not save the ones that are working
Throttle lock
S2u2
Sunscape
Touchlock pro
Phone buddy
M lock
Organic lock
Pocket shield
Sensor lock
Lock me tight
Stylus lock

try Auto Lock (CSDEVCTRL), you could slide to the right on the screen to unlock the phone or use the windows default unlock.

Hello gbjack
Just tried that app and it’s just to much setting up and I don't think it’s going to do what I want it to do. Just hope someone is willing to write a program going by all the forums I have searched it will be popular
Cheer’s for the reply and suggestion

I tried many lock apps as well, but in the end the standard windows lock is what im using. No hassle, and it simply works as intended. I just press the "hangup" virtual button, and after the second vibration feedback i can be sure that the phone is locked. Doesn't get any simpler than that.

Then you have to try " WWE-Chobit Company SmartLock 1.7B". Only four or five options but it cannot lock your hardware key during call.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=505032&highlight=Lock

Then you have to try " WWE-Chobit Company SmartLock 1.7B". Only eight very simple options but it cannot lock your hardware key during call.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=505032&highlight=Lock

Just tried that app and it’s not even showing in programs for me to set it up, so I will have to keep looking, it amazes me that no one has written a program like I’m after considering it’s so simple.

gbjack said:
try Auto Lock (CSDEVCTRL), you could slide to the right on the screen to unlock the phone or use the windows default unlock.
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This is good specialy the turn on bluetooth on call feature, but when we have an income call, the app takes ages to know what to do and the phone only begins to ring 5 secs after. Lockmelite it's the best one around but has a problem with alarms going to background after unlock. The "almost perfect" one is s2u but huge memory consuption makes background app's close or restart.

Hello jpl69
Tried this app found it to involved to setup and still does not do what I am looking for which is tap the screen to wake up so I than can unlock the phone using a s2u app. I find it bizarre that there are many apps to unlock the phone but you still have to push the power button to operate them. Surely it can’t take much program writing to add this feature. Jez

We have to push an hardware ley to wake up our devices from a low battery consuption state (suspend mode) and unfortunaly only have the power and volume hard keys so if you want to wake up your device with a tap on screen you'll only have a couple of hours with a full charge.

Now it makes sense why the screen sleeps if the battery only last for a couple of hours. Just a shame that the power button is so fiddly to operate. Jez

Yes, and it makes no sense having an device lock app (except on incoming calls). I only use it because of my 2 year old son that found the little tiny power on key , and made a couple of phone calls.
P.S. with a registry tweak you can enable the volume keys to wake up your device.

May be this could be your appropriate application:
MortSaver

jez.stix said:
Just tried that app and it’s not even showing in programs for me to set it up, so I will have to keep looking, it amazes me that no one has written a program like I’m after considering it’s so simple.
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It's not in the Programs folder, it's in the Settings Folder.

try smart lock 1.7b

biosxjj said:
try smart lock 1.7b
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That is brilliant and can be found here.
Simple and effective (needs a reboot after install, and is found under settings.

Just to be helpful... here's the brilliantly useful Reg tweak to allow wake-up from the volume keys.
- HKEY_CURRENT_USER\ControlPanel\Keybd
- set key: defaultkeylock from 1 to 0
- softreset
LockMeLite is definitely my favourite (especially with the above tweak), but as mentioned already, the alarm snooze / disappearing to background problem is a constant frustration.

Hello flid
Sorry for the delay everyone just got back from Canada so been busy catching up and sleeping. So how do I go about tweaking the reg key? I know how navigate to the reg key on a computer but not on my mobile

I changed my left soft key to lock the phone on the Home start screen as it was doing nothing useful except jumping to a phone operators website:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\HTC\Manila\HomeLSKPath = windows\Endkey.exe
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\HTC\Manila\HomeLSKText = Lock (or whether text you want).

You just need a windows mobile registry editor. There are several free ones. My current Dutty ROM has one inbuilt, but from what I can gather the popular options are Total Commander (free!), Schap's Registry (free), PHM RegEdit (which is built in to Dutty's ROM) and Resco Registry Editor (not free - but definitely the most finger friendly). There may well be others.

locking/unlocking programs and battery consumption

i was wondering if i could get sum people to tell me about ehir experiences with their locking/unlocking programs...such as, which ones youve used with success...im interested in knowing which ones use the least about of battery power, least amount of memory/ram...so on and so forth...any input wiould be greatly appreciated
specifically programs being used with the touch pro 2

I'm personally not a big fan of screen lock programs. I just think that for something as simple as locking the screen, the end-user shouldn't have to give up anything in terms of resources/battery life.
That's why I suggest sticking with the default WinMo lock.
I suggest either SmartLock or LockDevice to auto lock your device. Neither uses up any resources.

I've perused the threads concerning both the locking apps you cite above, but both appear to have some issues (i.e. not everything working properly after the install). I'm specifically looking for a way to have the screen locked when the device is turned on, mostly because I carry the thing in my pocket (yes, with a screen protector) and want to be sure that if I should inadvertently bump the power button I don't end up calling friends overseas from the inside of my pocket. It doesn't appear to me as if the default locking app can do this (and not simply turn on the lock after a timeout) -- or am I missing something?

pistou said:
I've perused the threads concerning both the locking apps you cite above, but both appear to have some issues (i.e. not everything working properly after the install). I'm specifically looking for a way to have the screen locked when the device is turned on, mostly because I carry the thing in my pocket (yes, with a screen protector) and want to be sure that if I should inadvertently bump the power button I don't end up calling friends overseas from the inside of my pocket. It doesn't appear to me as if the default locking app can do this (and not simply turn on the lock after a timeout) -- or am I missing something?
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I've used both of those apps and it works fine for me. I have the exact same concern that you have. I don't want the device to wake because someone called and hung up after a second, thus making the screen susceptible to taps.
In both apps, you can customize how you want the lock mechanism to kick in. You can set it to lock when you screen goes off. My personal preference is to set it to lock on suspend.
I'm not really sure what you mean. If your device is locked (with the WinMo default lock), you won't be able to do anything (including making calls) without unlocking it first either via tap & slide (WinMo 6.5) or left soft key & unlock button (WinMo 6.1).

I would really like to use the app, but there is a dialer conflict when getting incoming calls for boths apps. For example during an incoming call, I initially get HTC dialer. During the middle of the call, I get the original WM dialer. Do you have any suggestions to avoid this problem?

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pistou said:
I've perused the threads concerning both the locking apps you cite above, but both appear to have some issues (i.e. not everything working properly after the install). I'm specifically looking for a way to have the screen locked when the device is turned on, mostly because I carry the thing in my pocket (yes, with a screen protector) and want to be sure that if I should inadvertently bump the power button I don't end up calling friends overseas from the inside of my pocket. It doesn't appear to me as if the default locking app can do this (and not simply turn on the lock after a timeout) -- or am I missing something?
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I've used both of those apps and it works fine for me. I have the exact same concern that you have. I don't want the device to wake because someone called and hung up after a second, thus making the screen susceptible to taps.
In both apps, you can customize how you want the lock mechanism to kick in. You can set it to lock when you screen goes off. My personal preference is to set it to lock on suspend.
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Thanks: I've loaded lockDevice and so far so good
ohyeahar said:
I'm not really sure what you mean. If your device is locked (with the WinMo default lock), you won't be able to do anything (including making calls) without unlocking it first either via tap & slide (WinMo 6.5) or left soft key & unlock button (WinMo 6.1).
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What I meant was that my understanding of the default WinMo lock is that it only locks after a specific period of in activity (which I don't want to happen) rather than after a suspend (which is what I do want).

TP2 quick menu and S2U2

Hello,
I have TP2 with TMobile stock Rom. I'm using S2U2 for locking device when inactive.
The problem is that if the device is locked (due to inactivity) and when I unlock it, then it always goes to the home screen. I have disabled "go to homescreen" inside S2U2 settings, but still it goes to home screen.
Also if the screen is displaying certain applications like folderview, blackjack game and its locked->unlocked then these tasks run in background and are not visible using "Quick Menu" from icon area of the titlebar. I have to run the taskmanager and kill these tasks.
Any way to fix it. Other tasks like resco photo manager, htc album, coreplayer etc are OK. They do show up in quick menu.
Thanks

i tried S2U2 (and uninstalled it) and I'm not sure what purpose it serves on the TP2. The power saving locks the screen and it doesn't turn back on unless you press power again. Isn't that what S2U2 accomplishes? My Diamond screen would turn on at random, so S2U2 would be necessary with that phone, but the TP2 (in my stock Sprint ROM) has that functionality built in. Are people using this program by habit?

I think mainly because it has "Slide to Unlock" like the iPhone, .. people are fond by the iPhone, ....
in the TP2 (with Windows Mobile 6.1) there wasnt such thing (slide to unlock) (i think), So it would make sense to use that program, However, in Windows Mobile 6.5 that feature is there (Slide to Unlock)

Also, if you ever run the phone under a magnet (perhaps sliding it through a magnetic-clasped holster), the phone wakes instantly (if the reg tweak/fix was not made). That was a reason why I used S2U2 on my phone before (I now use TouchLockPro).
See_u_then, which version of S2U2 do you have? I was using v2.12 before I abandoned the app, and I don't remember encountering that problem with that particular version.

I'm using version 2.20

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I'm using version 2.20
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Ummm, okay... Would you like to try a different screen locker? I don't know, but S2U2 does have a lot of issues, and I abandoned it because it wasn't very stable and reliable.
If you would like to try another screen locker, TouchLockPro has been great for the past 1 1/2 weeks I've used it! The zoombar lock is great, and you can unlock the phone at the same screen you left it. Of course, you don't get the whole iPhone unlock look, but at least the zoombar gets put to good use (plus, if someone "borrows" your phone, they wouldn't know how to unlock it)!
PM me if you need help with TLP because, imo, the instructions at the developer's site are a little confusing.
BTW, happy new year to everyone!

The reason for using S2U2 is because with WM6.1 (and maybe 6.5, idk) when you recieve a text, the phone unlocks itself..unless you have it "Windows Locked" (actually going in and pressing "Lock"), so there is no very simple easy way to just lock and unlock the phone..and have it stay locked during texts and calls. S2U2 not only emulates the amazing iPhone lock UI and appearance, it also makes it much easier and faster than using the default lock, and solves the problem of not having a way to actually KEEP it locked when recieving texts and calls and other alerts. I personally LOVE S2U2.
Now, to fix your problem, DISABLE TouchFLO3D. TouchFLO3D is the sole cause of every problem on the TP2..at least for me. VERY glitchy and unstable and unuseful. It interferes with almost every app and customization I installed. Once I disabled it, all my problems were solved (including the exact same one you're having here.) It's beautiful and flashy.....but it has several issues including its interference with S2U2. So I've since kept it disabled completely. The standard WM interface may not be as finger friendly or as flashy, but it's far more reliable and useful...at least for now.

Hanson68 said:
i tried S2U2 (and uninstalled it) and I'm not sure what purpose it serves on the TP2. The power saving locks the screen and it doesn't turn back on unless you press power again. Isn't that what S2U2 accomplishes? My Diamond screen would turn on at random, so S2U2 would be necessary with that phone, but the TP2 (in my stock Sprint ROM) has that functionality built in. Are people using this program by habit?
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except that S2U2 automatically locks the phone, it does NOT by default otherwise.. You'd have to select the Lock option. Also S2U2 has the PIN input which is nicer than the WM one, and looks nice too.
There is a program (LockDevice?) which sort-of accomplishes the auto-lock that S2U2 does but I VERY often find when I turn the phone back on after turning it off and leaving it a few minutes that it is NOT locked, which leads to random programs being launched, phone calls made, etc.. S2U2 always locks.
Don't like S2U2? Don't use it.

MEH, dup, nutty forum.

MEH, dup, nutty forum.

see_u_then, i am having the same issue with s2u2 on my tp2 with sprint stock rom. i live s2u2 in that i have it set to wake up, but not unlock, whenever any type of notification arrives (minder. email, text, etc.) i've found that it saves me lots of time insteade of having to go to each app every time a event comes in. i've managed to tweak everything but the "wake up to the home screen" issue, so if you find a fix let me know. this issue is especially a pain when a call locks the screen because im then at the home screen and if i need to do key input for the call i have to punch a bunch of buttons to get back to the call screen,
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Indeed, I turned off HTC Sense and now the phone no longer unlocks itself. Thanks for the tip!