[Q] samsung omnia 7 vs dell venue pro - Windows Phone 7 General

showdown: these 2 seem to pretty much be the pick of the bunch launch devices. which one do you prefer and why?

Venue. I like the bigger screen and the dual speakers. Keyboard I'm fine with or without.

Im usually a sucker for Cool screens, and since the Onmia has a SuperAMOLED screen i originally was thinking of getting that one. But the Venue looks awesome and since its got an AMOLED screen already, i can deal with that But what i Really am interested in with the venue pro is...
THE CURVED GLASS THINGY MAJIG
except.. im kinda skeptical about the chrome. I have a cowon s9 and it has chrome sides and its actually just plastic with chrome painted over and its kinda showing in some scratch marks.

kingjovius said:
Im usually a sucker for Cool screens, and since the Onmia has a SuperAMOLED screen i originally was thinking of getting that one. But the Venue looks awesome and since its got an AMOLED screen already, i can deal with that But what i Really am interested in with the venue pro is...
THE CURVED GLASS THINGY MAJIG
except.. im kinda skeptical about the chrome. I have a cowon s9 and it has chrome sides and its actually just plastic with chrome painted over and its kinda showing in some scratch marks.
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Yeah good point. It's definitely most likely chrome plated plastic.

I think the display and battery life is really good on the Samsung and as I wouldn't use the physical keyboard then I personally would go for the Samsung.

may actually use the dell device because it does have a keyboard, expandable memory and 4.1 in screen (amoled at that)
so I expect some decent battery despite the screen size
when it comes out in America I will never know but I hope its out the same time as the hd7...
I love my hd2 with android and ubuntu but I need a keyboard due to sheer laziness I suppose also because I am a heavy texter

Venue Pro all the way;
Bigger Screen (4.1" vs 4")
Gorilla Glass
Hardware Keyboard
More ROM (1GB)
SD Card Slot (hence up to 40GB storage)
Cheaper
Can't see any advantages at all to the Omnia.

Jim Coleman said:
Venue Pro all the way;
Bigger Screen (4.1" vs 4")
Gorilla Glass
Hardware Keyboard
More ROM (1GB)
SD Card Slot (hence up to 40GB storage)
Cheaper
Can't see any advantages at all to the Omnia.
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You can't use the SD card slot anyway.
Who prefers bigger screen over SUPER AMOLED?

PersoAryanism said:
You can't use the SD card slot anyway.
Who prefers bigger screen over SUPER AMOLED?
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Yes you can use the SD card slot, what on Earth made you think otherwise?
And the Venue Pro also has an AMOLED screen.
Just so you know.

The reason that people would go for the Samsung is that you cant get the Dell on contract in the UK.

Phone Titan said:
The reason that people would go for the Samsung is that you cant get the Dell on contract in the UK.
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Heh! That's the exact reason I went for the Dell, it was available sim-free

I didnt go for the Dell because its just too chunky, it looks nice, but its too fat, omnia 7 doesnt have enough memory, ended up getting a HD7

loomx said:
I didnt go for the Dell because its just too chunky, it looks nice, but its too fat, omnia 7 doesnt have enough memory, ended up getting a HD7
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If you're happy with 16GB and no expansion, and the old-style LCD display with its washed-out colours, and you don't need a hardware keyboard, then the HD7 is a good choice. But you have to sign up to a 2 year contract for it.

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If you're happy with 16GB and no expansion, and the old-style LCD display with its washed-out colours, and you don't need a hardware keyboard, then the HD7 is a good choice. But you have to sign up to a 2 year contract for it.
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Its on PAYG on O2 for £380

Being that I'm new to touch screen phones. I say the dell because if the touchscreen keyboard doesn't work out i have the keyboard to fall back on.

Phone Titan said:
Its on PAYG on O2 for £380
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Not bad, but what's the deal with PAYG data? I'm on Virgin Mobile, paying a SIM Only monthly rate of £15 for infinite texts, unlimited internet and more minutes than I ever use (300 I think). That's a monthly rolling "contract" so I can change my phone whenever I like.
Plus, wouldn't the phone be locked into O2? Can WP7 phones be unlocked?
Don't forget these phones suck up a helluva lot of data, strikes me PAYG could require a second mortgage...

Try out giffgaff as a PAYG provider. Virtual network running on O2, run by some ex-O2 execs.
You'll get the same 300 minutes for £15 with unlimited internet and texts.
If the HD7 is locked to O2, it should still work on giffgaff (e.g. an old t-mobile locked phone I had worked fine on Virgin)

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The reason that people would go for the Samsung is that you cant get the Dell on contract in the UK.
Heh! That's the exact reason I went for the Dell, it was available sim-free
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The Dell Venue pro will be available on contract in the UK from Orange and T-Mobile, in November

irdawood said:
The Dell Venue pro will be available on contract in the UK from Orange and T-Mobile, in November
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OK that's me sold - Roll on November
I really wanted to prefer the Dell Streak (I have a long commute) - but after trying out a HD7 for around 10 mins I found the OS to be just so slick and a nice place to be, that I have to have one.
The fact that the Venue Pro has a expandable micro sdhc slot and a keyboard just makes it perfect for me
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I think the Venue is the BlackBerry Style of Windows Phone 7, that device just stands out so much from the crowd, in a very bad way, it looks so thick and ugly... I am not a huge fan of Samsung products, but the Omnia looks pretty sexy

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Which WP7 devices?

This poll is created to see how popular each of those WP7 devices are.
Personally, I don't like WP7 because of its unattractive UI look (and that's my opinion). But if I had to choose one WP7 device, it would be Samsung Focus. That is IF it's true that the keyboard is more impressive than the stock Android keyboard, as said by some reviewers/editors. But if that's not true, then I would go with Dell Venue Pro or HTC 7 PRO (cuz both has a physical QWERTY keyboard).
Now, which WP7 device would be your fav. one? Also, pls vote and explain why!
(So, most people like HD7. Simply because of its big screen, but besides that what device-feature would also turn people on?)
I'm torn.
HTC Surround because it HTC and its on AT&T which I already have.
HD7 because of the screen.
LG Quantum because of the DLNA, and again, it's on AT&T.
Trophy looks nice but not available in US to my knowledge.
Put those all together with a 1.5 ghz dual core, add an HDMI out and you've got the perfect phone.
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I'm torn.
HTC Surround because it HTC and its on AT&T which I already have.
HD7 because of the screen.
LG Quantum because of the DLNA, and again, it's on AT&T.
Trophy looks nice but not available in US to my knowledge.
Put those all together with a 1.5 ghz dual core, add an HDMI out and you've got the perfect phone.
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Ok, thanks for ur comment! But choose only one and which one will it be???
I'd go with the HD7... Just like my HD2 Nice Big Screen... And on T-Mobile US
rolling with the samsung
samsung is the one for me Super AMOLED 4 inch screen just the right size, the super thin, and the best feature of all external sd after adding my 32 gb sd card will have the largest storage available of 40gb!!!
For me on Tmobile it'll naturally be the HD7 or the Venue. I've ALWAYS had a qwerty keyboard for the longest I can remember when they first popped up, which draws me to the Venue, but the sleek slim-ness of the HD7 is also appealing. At the end of the day I'm set on the Venue unless the on-screen keyboard blows me away to want to replace a physical keyboard, which I doubt, but only time will tell.
rruffman said:
samsung is the one for me Super AMOLED 4 inch screen just the right size, the super thin, and the best feature of all external sd after adding my 32 gb sd card will have the largest storage available of 40gb!!!
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Source pelase? The only confirmed one with expandable memory up to 40gb is the Cetus, not the Omnia7. Though, if you swap the microsd, you'll be factory resetting the whole thing. ><
Back to the thread I'd go for the 16gb version of the Omnia7. Reviews of the HD7 state that the old screen tech really shows, not comparable to IPS, SLCD and AMOLED. Thought the screen is big
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Source pelase? The only confirmed one with expandable memory up to 40gb is the Cetus, not the Omnia7. Though, if you swap the microsd, you'll be factory resetting the whole thing. ><
Back to the thread I'd go for the 16gb version of the Omnia7. Reviews of the HD7 state that the old screen tech really shows, not comparable to IPS, SLCD and AMOLED. Thought the screen is big
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i am speaking of the Cetus i am on att...
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i am speaking of the Cetus i am on att...
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rofl my bad. Wish the Omnia7 had that ><
Engadget is stating that all HTC devices use the newer MSM8250 chipset.... If this is true, makes the choice even harder for me since the Omnia 7 uses the older QSD8250
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rofl my bad. Wish the Omnia7 had that ><
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just think with the 32gb sd card the samsung will have that largest storage on any device!!
Cruzer1 said:
Engadget is stating that all HTC devices use the newer MSM8250 chipset.... If this is true, makes the choice even harder for me since the Omnia 7 uses the older QSD8250
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Pretty sure they aren't The MS Windows Phone 7 site has the specs, and they all say QSD8250
Only the LG phones use the newer snapdragon processors and gpu...does that mean they'll have better battery life?
HD7..it wins hands down..lovely clean and neat design.....wht else do u want??
Daemos said:
Only the LG phones use the newer snapdragon processors and gpu...does that mean they'll have better battery life?
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LG uses QSD8650 wich is also 1st generation with 65nm technology. Wish there could be some units with the MSM8x55 chipset with 45nm technology and better gpu. I guess we will see that in models coming out in spring. It's pretty clear all the manufacturers are just releasing models that are up to microsofts minimum specs in the first wave just so they have something "new" to release in spring. It's not surprising they want to make as much money as possible.
As for the question in the thread. I would probably choose LG Optimus 7 just for the 16GB storage and the DLNA feature. If all phones had DLNA i would choose Samsung Omnia 7 or HTC 7 Mozart.
I'm on an HD2 at the mo and out of the 3 that I can get in the UK (HD7, Mozart, Trophy) the Mozart gets my attention the most. The HD7 is an HD2 with less buttons, a kickstand and WinMo7, the Trophy is smaller but still only has a 5mp camera, the Mozart has an alluminium chasis and an 8mp camera as well as being smaller than the HD7 so thats the best out of the 3 for me as I either wanted the same spec in a smaller package or better spec in the same package.
for me it'd be the Pro, but that's out 2011, and it'll be tough to wait
it's hard to choose. either the Trophy, or the Mozart, or the HD7...
You left one out.
HTC HD7 PRO.
This is the phone that I would choose.
The HTC 7 PRO is sort of like my HTC Touch Pro2 in size. That is why I would not want to choose that one. If I was new to the smartphone and this would be my first smartphone, then I would most likely choose the HTC 7 PRO. But, This would be my 4th HTC purchase. From the HTC TOUCH, to HTC TOUCH PRO, to HTC TOUCH PRO2 ( 2 of them, 1 for my wife & 1 for me ), and now awaiting the next purchase of an HTC phone.
HTC Desire HD
HTC HD7 please
I'm currently using HD2. I think i'd probably go for the HD7 Pro, but at first glance I don't like the UI and none of the WP7s have a card slot and are limited to 8 or 16gb.
Will probably stay away from WP7 to be honest.

No manufacturers going to change it up?

I am wondering if any manufacturers are going to be different anytime soon? I am hoping that by July we will see a little "fragmentation" i.e. we have tegra 2 phone with 32GB data and a SAMOLED screen.
Or is chassis 1 very, very strict, that we are only going to see specs x.
well MS has set all minimum specs, but I'm guessing that for things like CPU, MS should define what manufacturers can use as they're all too scared to just put any chip in without causing damage to the WP image. Most of the variations at present can really come from the camera, on board memory (and sd slot), and the screen type. Everything else you'll find to be quite similar at this stage, but hopefully MS defines the other 2 chassis type so that more variations can come about.
Meh, its annoying that the closest to what I want is a slider.
I plan on never having a slider again after seeing pretty much every person who owned a slider(including me) have it break. Conditions don't seem to suit sliders much.
16GB, 4" AMOLED screen, SD slot and audio quality coming out of the phone that is just as good the the Zune HD's.
Omnia 7 just misses it by no SD slot, 16GB almost impossible to get in SA, and the audio out seems to have missed all the low bass?!
I use quality headphones + an amp, or I plug my phone into my speaker system or my car. I will notice those frequencies...
Though one thing I do not care for, definately goes to speaker quality, neer really cared about that.
Agree! if just ONE manufacture put their whole effort into 1 of their WP7 phones, it would wipe the floor with the competition and give us all an obvious choice when it comes to selecting a wp7 phone. instead, the choice is difficult and they are technically no better than the 18 month old HD2 if just one of these new phones had for example a front facing camera, 32gb nand memory or more... ive no doubt it would be everyones pick.
I think the Samsung Omnia is the best device, however its a shame that it only comes with 8GB memory and no way to expand it.
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I think the Samsung Omnia is the best device, however its a shame that it only comes with 8GB memory and no way to expand it.
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That's why the Venue Pro is better
Jim Coleman said:
That's why the Venue Pro is better
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I love this phone all except for slider if it was as slim as the HD7 I would not hesitate in getting one. The 4.1 AMOLED screen is just right and 16 GB memory will get me buy for now.
if i was patient enough i probably wuld have got the venue pro if it has 16gb
agp64 said:
I love this phone all except for slider if it was as slim as the HD7 I would not hesitate in getting one. The 4.1 super AMOLED screen is just right and 16 GB memory will get me buy for now.
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It's AMOLED without "Super". AFAIK, only Samsung phones have S-AMOLED display.
The chassis only stated minimums... The OEMS aren't building more expensive devices because they don't have to. When the OS has picked up and is selling more, then you'll see the superphones (The first Android phone was not an Evo)
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It's AMOLED without "Super". AFAIK, only Samsung phones have S-AMOLED display.
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Sorry my mistake.[Fixed] I was just reading up on the difference and the super looks a fair bit better again.

WP7 which phone should I buy today?

I'm thinking of HTC Mozart for its best (?) camera. But in "also like the LG Optimus 7th
Any suggestions?
Note: I live in Sweden and we only Have 4 devices to choose from, Htc Mozart, Trophy, LG Optimus 7 & the Samsung Omnia 7.
Thanks!
Im in the US and have had an HTC surround (similar to the other HTC devices) and am currently using a Samsung Focus (just like the Omnia 7 in a different shell), and I would say to go with the Omnia 7 just for the screen. Its amazing and the colors of the tiles really pop. I especially love how the black makes it blend into the bezel so you can see where the screen ends and the bezel begins
Peer2peer said:
I'm thinking of HTC Mozart for its best (?) camera. But in "also like the LG Optimus 7th
Any suggestions?
Note: I live in Sweden and we only Have 4 devices to choose from, Htc Mozart, Trophy, LG Optimus 7 & the Samsung Omnia 7.
Thanks!
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As someone who owns all the U.S. released devices I sincerely advise against HTC WP7 devices. They're typically slower than the others and have the worst battery life. That said it depends on what you're more concerned with. The Optimus 7 has amazing battery life and the Omnia 7 has a great screen. Whichever of those two is more important to you jump on that device.
Due to the onboard storage, the Omnia 7 is pretty much the fastest WP7 device out there at loading and resuming applications.
Very responsive touch screen as well.
The downsides? It's not upgradable, so you're stuck with the 8Gb storage space. Also, you get colour banding on fine gradients when you look at web pages and photos.
Personally, I love the device and wouldn't swap it for anything else. I can live with the smaller storage space.
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Due to the onboard storage, the Omnia 7 is pretty much the fastest WP7 device out there at loading and resuming applications.
Very responsive touch screen as well.
The downsides? It's not upgradable, so you're stuck with the 8Gb storage space. Also, you get colour banding on fine gradients when you look at web pages and photos.
Personally, I love the device and wouldn't swap it for anything else. I can live with the smaller storage space.
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I have to agree. The Omnia 7 is by far the best device in Europe with WP7. I had the HD7, the Mozart and LG E900. At least i got stuck with the Omnia 7 with 16 GB of Memory. Its well produced and looks way better than the ugly LG device. In terms of speed LG and Omnia 7 are equal. In case of OEM Apps LG outperforms HTC and Samsung by far.
Best way is to test the Devices yourself in store.
Thanks everyone, i liked the Htc Mozart but as you guys say, the battery life sucks and i've heard the display aint that good either.
LG Optimus 7 is kinda nice but i dont know.
The Omnia 7 is just so freaking ugly!! Don't you guys agree?
Don't know what to choose, great display or great battery?
Peer2peer said:
Thanks everyone, i liked the Htc Mozart but as you guys say, the battery life sucks and i've heard the display aint that good either.
LG Optimus 7 is kinda nice but i dont know.
The Omnia 7 is just so freaking ugly!! Don't you guys agree?
Don't know what to choose, great display or great battery?
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The back of the Omnia7 is ugly but the front looks really good compared to the LG. And thats what you look at all the time
Peer2peer said:
Thanks everyone, i liked the Htc Mozart but as you guys say, the battery life sucks and i've heard the display aint that good either.
LG Optimus 7 is kinda nice but i dont know.
The Omnia 7 is just so freaking ugly!! Don't you guys agree?
Don't know what to choose, great display or great battery?
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The omnia 7 isn't that attractive but it holds together well. You dont have to worry about a 2 foot drop shattering your phones existence as you do with the mozart. The display on it is amazing especially in dark themes since the SAMOLED screens dont light up the black pixels at all and the battery life is nothing to complain about, just not as good as the optimus 7
I would go with the Omnia 7.
Excepting that I want more Memory - highly recommend my Omnia 7 - in balance the memory trade off is worth it (if you can find a 16 GB version I'd pay the extra if buying again).
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Omnia7:
it's the most beautiful WP7 device available, has the best screen and the best camera (Mozart may have more MP but the photos aren't good).
I use a program that's called Spotify, streaming music for 7$/month, it's coming to WP7 soon so i won't really need 16 GB storage.
I guess ill have to think about the Omnia 7 then.. haha
Thanks everyone!
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As someone who owns all the U.S. released devices I sincerely advise against HTC WP7 devices. They're typically slower than the others and have the worst battery life. That said it depends on what you're more concerned with. The Optimus 7 has amazing battery life and the Omnia 7 has a great screen. Whichever of those two is more important to you jump on that device.
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just your opinion...check the WP Benchmark thread. My HD7 outperforms pretty much every other phone on there I the CPU section and even beat your beloved DVP in CPU and Memory ;-) NoDo has really given the slower MicroSD phones a shot in the arm it seems...
omnia 7
wp7 is better designed for samoled (lots of black in the U.I) on othe lcd screens it does,nt looks tht good btw i own a samsung focus n my cousin hav a lg quantum n my phone looks far more better then my cousin,s lg ... (sorry for my bad english)
Omnia 7 for sure. If I were you I'd purchase it from Germany though as you can currently pick it up for around 2500,- rather than the 4000,- or even 5000,- they cost in Sweden. Not to mention you get 16GB instead of the standard 8GB.
Holy **** guys!
Omnia 7 looks like a piece of wood with a screen!
Take my advice.. Trophy 7 have the perfect screen size, it's beautiful and have a nice grip. Try it (;
emigrating said:
Omnia 7 for sure. If I were you I'd purchase it from Germany though as you can currently pick it up for around 2500,- rather than the 4000,- or even 5000,- they cost in Sweden. Not to mention you get 16GB instead of the standard 8GB.
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Hmm, how does it works with insurance if i buy a phone from an other country?
And also, from where do i buy it?!
Thanks.
EDIT: sorry i mean warrenty - Not insurance
mikeeam said:
Holy **** guys!
Omnia 7 looks like a piece of wood with a screen!
Take my advice.. Trophy 7 have the perfect screen size, it's beautiful and have a nice grip. Try it (;
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I agree, the samsung omnia/ focus/ galaxy s line have all looked kinda cheap to me. Nice screen, but other than that, looks quite tacky.
From what I heard on the podcasts, the trophy has the bast camera of the wp7 line, so if that is what is important to you, get it.
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I agree, the samsung omnia/ focus/ galaxy s line have all looked kinda cheap to me. Nice screen, but other than that, looks quite tacky.
From what I heard on the podcasts, the trophy has the bast camera of the wp7 line, so if that is what is important to you, get it.
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What? i've heard that the trophy got the worst
Peer2peer said:
Hmm, how does it works with insurance if i buy a phone from an other country?
And also, from where do i buy it?!
Thanks.
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Do a search on preis.de. I know some people have purchased from ES-Mobilefunk, but can't vouch for them myself. I've used mp3player.de which price matched the cheapest alternative on the list.
If you by insurance mean warranty I'm not sure - I do believe Samsung Sweden will honor a European wide warranty though, but check to make sure. If indeed you mean insurance, just insure it like you would any other handset.
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I agree, the samsung omnia/ focus/ galaxy s line have all looked kinda cheap to me. Nice screen, but other than that, looks quite tacky.
From what I heard on the podcasts, the trophy has the bast camera of the wp7 line, so if that is what is important to you, get it.
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You seriously cannot put the Omnia7 and the Focus in the same category. One is all plasticy and feels cheap while the other is all metal and feels real sturdy.
As for the Trophy having the better camera, well, it may be the best HTC has to offer, but that really doesn't say much considering how bad the HD7 is or how the Mozart doesn't really give better pictures with it's 8MP camera.

Mango Devices: Samsung lineup

Let's see, we have:
1) Samsung Focus S announced by AT&T
2) Samsung Focus Flash announced by AT&T
3) Samsung Omnia 7 S (made up name) leaked by the FCC
All these seem to sport Super AMOLED screens which is great. We do need information on availability and storage options but the Focus S sounds very promising. Today I'm much more likely to buy a Samsung Mango phone over a HTC.
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Samsung-SGH-i708-hits-the-FCC-a-WP-Mango-remake-of-the-Omnia-7_id21955
http://thisismynext.com/2011/09/12/samsung-focus-focus-flash-headed-att-windows-phone-7-mango-on-board/
Focus or go home, pretty much. It's the best device confirmed to be coming out now.
4.3" SA+ screen @ WVGA is a lot more bearable than 4.7" SLCD @ WVGA. 1.4 GHz almost as good as 1.5. It has a 32 GB Option IIRC. Samsung tends to use NAND in their phones, so I'm hoping for that. Decent cameras, and the sound and cell radio are almost guaranteed to be better than HTC devices.
Too bad AT&T axed Unlimited Data. That's a showstopper for me, and I'm guessing lots of other people.
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Focus or go home, pretty much. It's the best device confirmed to be coming out now.
4.3" SA+ screen @ WVGA is a lot more bearable than 4.7" SLCD @ WVGA. 1.4 GHz almost as good as 1.5. It has a 32 GB Option IIRC. Samsung tends to use NAND in their phones, so I'm hoping for that. Decent cameras, and the sound and cell radio are almost guaranteed to be better than HTC devices.
Too bad AT&T axed Unlimited Data. That's a showstopper for me, and I'm guessing lots of other people.
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Super excited for the Focus S, assuming at least 24 GB will be available. Now, let's see what else will be coming out around that time...
@N8ter where did you get that 32GB info? Storage hasn't been mentioned. I hope it's a Worldwide phone unlike the first Focus.
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It's heresay. I have seen it mentioned by a few people at different sites. Sorry. That's why I put the "IIRC" part It's questionable.
If it has no 32GB option it'll be dead to me.
I'll buy a new iPod instead. Really, this is getting ridiculous.
I wonder if the new iPhone will have a 4" screen...
I spent about 2 grand on phones in 2010-2011. I'll be frugal for the next few years, so whatever phone I get in the next 1-3 months well... I'll just take a contract out cause I won't be giving anything else a try.
They better knock this **** out of the ballpark. Really, they're running out of chances and it's not like the issue of low storage in the devices wasn't a hot topic following the release of the 1st gen WP7 devices...
Though it voids the warranty WP7 are not hard to upgrade the memory. i'm being alittle hypocritical pointing this out, consdiering I bought a 32gb DVP when I could saved $100 getting a cheaper one with lower storage and upgrading. Prior to the DVP comingto AT&T I also got an HTC surround over the LG b/c of storage, though I prefer physical keyboards.
It depends on what WP7 device you have. It's not easy to upgrade the storage on an HD7. There is no user-accessible SD Card Slot. You literally have to open some of these phones up to get at those slots. Lots of devices have tape inside that clearly indicates if teh phone has been opened up. Some of them have stuff in the screws that makes it obvious if you even stuck a screwdriver in them, nevermind opened it up, and they'll void your warranty if that's been tampered with (they won't even touch it, they'll just say you're on your own - I know people this has happened to).
That's like saying it's not hard to remove the battery from an iPhone, in many cases.
$100 to go from 15 to 32G when you can be absolutely assured that it will work correctly is worth it. Many of us would have paid that, but we didn't get the choice - at all.
The DVP didn't have a 32G option until many months after it was released. For the first 6 months or so all Dell Had were 8 and 16 GB options.
Plus that device only has 256MB RAM, IIRC, which is a showstopper for me. Not to mention the camera on it is beyond terrible.
No. The DVP has 512 but the early tmo ones had a bug where the system only read half of the memory.
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This time around I'm a little undecided. I'm leaning towards the Focus S, but I would consider the Titan too. I would like to have a physical keyboard as well, but it seems all of the Mango devices aren't available with that option. I guess I might hold out for a little while, but I would like to upgrade before the end of the year.
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No. The DVP has 512 but the early tmo ones had a bug where the system only read half of the memory.
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Good to hear. Thanks for correcting that.
The Omnia W has been officially announced today. If anyone can find full specs, please post them
http://wmpoweruser.com/new-samsung-windows-phone-device-omnia-w-announced/
http://asia.cnet.com/crave/samsung-announces-wp7-omnia-w-62211163.htm
Here are the specs: http://sammyhub.com/2011/09/26/samsung-announces-mango-os-running-omnia-w/
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No SAMOLED+ and just a 3.7" screen...disappointing.
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No SAMOLED+ and just a 3.7" screen...disappointing.
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Supposedly it has lower specs so that it is priced competitively, makes total sense to me since they're already releasing the Focus S with SAMOLED+ and a 4.3" screen.
Jesus, these announcements are going to turn me into a WP7 hater soon.
Just what's wrong with these OEMs? Why in the world do they equate high end with oversized screens?
I'm don't want to go any bigger than 4", but 8GB of storage and PenTile? Screw it.
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It depends on what WP7 device you have. It's not easy to upgrade the storage on an HD7. There is no user-accessible SD Card Slot. You literally have to open some of these phones up to get at those slots. Lots of devices have tape inside that clearly indicates if teh phone has been opened up. Some of them have stuff in the screws that makes it obvious if you even stuck a screwdriver in them, nevermind opened it up, and they'll void your warranty if that's been tampered with (they won't even touch it, they'll just say you're on your own - I know people this has happened to).
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There's a pretty easy to follow guide to change the HD7's SD Card without voiding warranty. Don't have to take out the screw with the void warranty sticker on it & can move the tape out of the way pretty easily. That being said, never done it, because of the compatibility issues with SD Cards & WP7.

Picking your next Windows Phone... What is your priority feature?

Thought this might be interesting if I go by things I read on different threads.
This won't be the case but let's assume you can get any phone on any carrier and price isn't an issue.
How would you pick your next phone?
I allowed for multiple choice but try not to vote for 6 out of 8 or this won't teach us anything specific. And if you picked "Other", what did you have in mind?
Other: gyroscope support and > 1 GHz processor
My most important features: Screen size (less than 4"), Camera (high quality with dual led), and something not there build quality.
I am pretty much all in for the Nokia 800. Second choice is the Samsung Omnia W.
For me there has to be a hardware keyboard - I just hate capacitive touch keyboards.
Price, can't be more than $100 with no contract. And of course, significantly better than my LG Quantum, otherwise I have no reason to upgrade.
I LOVE massive phones, I went from my HD2, to an HD7, and if God would answer my prayers, the Titan would come to T-Mobile, though, soon enough it won't matter as I'm hoping we become AT&T. So, I voted for FFC since it's already a given to me that I'm going for a big phone. Screen type would probably be a close second for me, as I like the HD7 screen, but really wish it were a higher quality, but hey, I'm asking to be spoiled now, right?
It's odd to see one user out of two ready to buy a phone on its brand alone
I personally go for what I find better overall regardless of the OEM.
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Price, can't be more than $100 with no contract. And of course, significantly better than my LG Quantum, otherwise I have no reason to upgrade.
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Yeah I guessed price would come up for many people as well as choice given by the carrier which is why I said in the first post regardless of price and availability
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It's odd to see one user out of two ready to buy a phone on its brand alone
I personally go for what I find better overall regardless of the OEM.
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I personally love HTC, I know I'm probably in the current minority, for some odd reason as they're the only phones to consistently update without an issue, but Nokia is also winning over my heart.
I really want my Mozart to be my last HTC ever. But it's been my desire to abandon them since like 2005, and I still was forced to buy their stuff because others were mostly even worse.
In your list, it goes like this: screen less than 4", 16GB minimum (64 preferred), usable camera, 1500+ mAH battery. No pentile crap. Looks are also kind of important, but I can live with something less than stellar.
The leaks and announcements really make me sad, I don't see anything really attractive. SeaRay is almost there but it looks like it'll come with PenTile, so it's most probably a no go...
I'm with FiyaFleye, I like HTC and and have seen problems that would affect with other OEMS that I don't have with my Fuze. Nokia I have no idea on that but haven't had one in 4 yrs and it was a dumbphone. However not willing to wait another 3 months+ for them either. I would like a hardware keyboard with a smaller screen would be first choice, or go with a big screen so I can type well. Extra nick nacks are always a plus if they are usable, and 1 gig > processor for some future app usage is good too.
This list would have been so much easier in Aug before they started announcing phones, I'm just waiting for mine to come to the USA.
I'd love to get my hands on a Nokia WP7 phone, but that could take a while and the HTC Titan is kinda expensive over here.
I'll prolly just get a Samsung Omnia W if I get too impatient, really wanna see what the better CPU/GPU can do for my emulator.
Also I'd really like to see some 32GB storage phones, 8GB is just killing me on my Trophy.
1. Storage, it must be at least 32gb
2. Nokia
I will only consider getting a phone that isn't a nokia if the storage space is 32gb or above (and nokia only offer 16gb variants).
If storage space doesn't improve by the end of the year I will probably jump ship to android, even though I prefer Windows Phone my music collection is a must for me.
I'm hoping *fingers crossed* that the Nokia 800 will come in 16gb and 64gb variants like the N9 and thus will be my next phone (in blue )
Manufacturer is gonna come into play for my next WP7. IE i'm not having another Samsung phone.
I went with screen size. 3.5" ish would be good. Also, want good battery life. At least a 1500mah battery.
Funny how so few people picked FF Camera when it's supposed to be an epic fail not to have it since Apple "invented" video chat
I would have bought that Samsung Omnia 7 W like today if it came with 16 GB...
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1. Storage...at least 32 GB
3. Camera quality
3. Screen quality
I don't know any one that actually uses the FFC...nothing but a gimmick.
I´m asking myself if I need a new WP in general...
My OMNIA 7 has all features I use daily (less DLNA and skype support).
So today I took a look at the new HTC devices:
1. HTC Omega is too small.
2. HTC Titan is too big for my taste.
The display is much better than the HD7 display but not even better than the OMNIA 7 display. Also the general quality of the phone is very good: less plastic parts and good working hardware buttons (compared with the HD7).
Do I need a HTC Titan 4.7" notebook in my pocket ? I don´t think so.
The upcoming OMNIA W will only have 8 GB, maybe 16GB... is this what I need ? I don´t think so either.
A general question is: Do I really need a FF cam ? How many videocalls I made in the past ? I only made normal voip calls...
I would say the only hope is that the NOKIA Empire strikes back... and I don´t think that the new devices will have more than 16 GB.
I hope that I´m wrong, but I think it´s better to wait 3 or 4 month before buying a new WP.
Regards
contable
I never thought I'd say this, but camera is my #1. Since everyone seems to be pinching pennies these days and both of my old 5MP point-and-shoots are just crappy, my phone has become my #1 camera for both stills and video. I remember when cameras first came out on cell phones and I was thinking, "why?" All that, and baby is now 12 weeks old, so I'm taking pictures like crazy!
Screen size is a close second. I doubt I could ever go smaller than my 4" Focus screen at this point.

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