[Q] A question - Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development

What is the actual difference between the androidinstall files gives in the build of for example Incubus Super Froyo and the regular android builds like for example this Wildfire build: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=761927.
And are we able to run android builds from other WM phones, with almost the same specs, or not and why not then?
Is there some kind of check of the device such as in the RUU of the different WM roms?

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when is wm2005 final due?

hi guys
i understand the wm2005 released here is the beta ver.
googling seems to suggest the final should have been released already.
do we have the final available on the forum anywhere?
cheers
aslan
There is not and probably will not be an "official" release for the Blueangel. Our copy is being worked on by mamaich and buzz and others,and has come a long way since it's early version. It is almost de-bugged and works well. I would not hold my breath waiting for a "finished" release....it's probably not coming.
Later....... 8)
aslan said:
hi guys
i understand the wm2005 released here is the beta ver.
googling seems to suggest the final should have been released already.
do we have the final available on the forum anywhere?
cheers
aslan
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i dont mean an official version, but more like a rom dump off a ppc which is sold with wm2005 final.
or are they not making a final? or is what we've got thy final?
PPCs and their software are so much together that you can't really take a ROM dump from another unit and get it to work on a BA. Bits and pieces have been taken out from the Himalaya, but a full ROM can't be used.
All WM (2002, 2003, 2003SE, 5 etc) are compiled SPECIFICALLY for each device which includes drivers ONLY for that particular device and the ROM contains a large number of XIP modules (eXecute In Place) which can only run at a specified memory address (Think back to when you could only compile code that did not have relocatable code addressing...)
If you can manage to remove a module from one version of WM5 the chances are:
1) It is incompatible with the device you are trying to move it to (Hardware is different / at different memory locations)
2) The module will be loaded at the wrong memory location causing it to fail when executed.
So although the base WM5 might be the same code wise the above problems will prevent moving the vast majority of items between devices using simple file transfer - we need the original code, compilers and device drivers to be able to create our own - very, very unlikely!!!

Confused

I've been using my XDA Exec for almost a year now and have tried my hand at a few ROM upgrades - I'm not toally sure what I'm doing so I don't tend to try much. I now want to understand more about what each element of the upgrade does and I'm having problems finding out what does what. Can someone explain in easy terms what the CE ROM is and what it contains (I'm guessing its the operating system), what the Extended Image is and what it contains, and finally what the RADIO ROM is and what it does (or contains). I then want to try and mix and math the various bits to get the device I'm after.
Thanks
I'm currently showing ROM 2.01.06, RADIO 1.15.00, protocol 42.51.P8 and OS build 5.2.318 (Build 15341.0.0.0)
More confusion
Also, please, what is the difference between a standard ROM and a WWE ROM? I note that my question has not been covered in the glossary of terms, so is everyone else confused or is eveyone else too lazy to help out a n00b?
o.k very simple:
Ce ROM : (WM5 or WM6 etc) is the OS of your device, it can be compared to windowsXP in your desktop.
Extended Image=Extended ROM: is the image/ROM which has additional 3party application software on it. Those software’s can be related to your service provider settings /application or application simple as Adobe PDF; Backup software etc.
Extended image will be installed in a special area which called Extended ROM (ca. 10mg capacity) on your device. Normally this area is locked and hidden in official ROM. Application software or information stored in this area still untouched and available after a “hard reset (setting the device back to factory/provider settings)”
But in the ROM’s that are available in this form here (self cooked/made) is the extended ROM is mostly unlocked and visible. Moreover You will observe that this area has no more application on it anymore. Therefore you can make use of this area with storing some important data which you want to still available in case of hard reset.
RADIO ROM: includes only information for Phone functionality. It is a “application” to able the devices communicate with GSM, 3G etc. However you will find few available Radio versions. The most used one is currently 1.15 but it really depends on your location. Some are very happy with 1.15 but others having problems to receiving signals with it and leading the device been unstable.
WWE= World Wide English: that is related to OS (CE ROM) language version. It means it is English ROM.
I suggest you read the WIKI ,a lot of things that you can take from there
Bulldog,
Very many thanks for your help, and yes, I've read various bits of the Wiki but couldn't find the answers I was looking for. I appreciate the basic explanation.
I am currently using the extended ROM area as storage as I haven't found anything (CABs?) in there. Another question ref the OS ROM bit, do all 'cooked' OS ROMs of the same version have the same contents or can they vary from ROM to ROM (even if they say the same version number)?
Rgds, Phil
Hi Phil,
I assume you are using ROM made by one of the cooker here?
every cooker has own preference of software (additional to the OS) that includes in to ROM image. Basically they combine now the OS with extended rom.
You may hear the expression of "Vanilla" that indicates that ROM clean from any additional software and has only the OS on it.
Moreover different cooker may use different supporting application like commanager etc and build ROM which is XXX version. Moreover during the cooking different ROM builder using different registry settings which ends up as XXX version but have totally different performance.
Bulldog,
I am using one of the ROMs from this forum, from one of the 'stikkies'. I've tried a few but can't find the one I originally upgraded to when WM6 first came available (and also don't know whose it was!). I think I'm currently using Helmi's "Helmi_WM2k6_v.1.1
WM6 OS 5.2.318 (Built 15341.0.0.0)" ROM although I'd like to try the DarkForce one but can't find it (see other post). I'm also going to try the vanilla ROM posted by Graham but have yet to upload it to my XDA.
Once I get a bit more comfortable, I'm going to try and teach myself (via lots of reading here) how to cook my own ROM to provide the apps and features I want - but that might take me some time!!
try the PDAVIET ROM, very good. Stable and fast! you will not regret it.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=317823
darkforce rom hangs alot!

Newer WinCE on old CE "core version" 2.11 device?

Posting this here because a friend thought one of you knowledgeable CE/WinMo guys might be able to give a hand.
I've got an old MobilePro 780 that I really like the keyboard on, but it's pretty close to useless with the Handheld PC Edition v. 3.01 install that's on there now. If at all possible, I'd like to get a newer version on there - anything at all, really. I've got NetBSD installed on it via a CF card right now, but that's pretty limited due to the device's hardware.
The device has a 182MHz MIPSIII CPU, 32M RAM, and 32M flash. It was made in 2000. Does anyone know if there's been a newer ROM made for this device, or if it would even be possible due to BSP packages not existing for newer CE versions, or some such thing? Here is a review of the device, fwiw.

Any ROM requests

I was thinking of posting one or two ROMs for this device to add some variety.
Does anyone have any requests?
I think most of people want a stripped down no frills kind of system. I used Dark's Roms for a little while but started having problems with it locking up and not receiving calls. I think if you can clean up the stock and maybe give it a face lift, well, I don't know about anyone else, but Id like that. Getting tired of the plan ol interface.
Any chance of you posting the OEMmiscs as well so that any of us who want to cook our own SYS builds can do it?
Perhaps a stripped down rom with any useful additions from the v7 Fathom rom (fathom keyboard, dialer, anything else you find worthwhile to add)?
Is there any chance to bring over the Sense 2.5?
I like the program, even though i don't have a HTC.
windows mobile 6.1?
OK, say maybe a couple of "clean" ROMs based on WM 6.1, 6.5 & 6.5.3?
I'm personally not that interested spending a lot of time porting HTC software, like Sense.
I have no problem posting my Kitchen and source files.
TrueG
Sounds good! Looking forward to the release!
He question is asked!!!
and then, nothing more has happened!!!
- made the survey and who likes what,
or have lost your phone or computer
and they said that they had gone to study
and such a thing happened in many applications and many ROMs
winmospeed
topaz rom
xperia rom
Avian Pleyer
and so on and so forth
In any case regards
Have no fear, I'm still here.
Right now I am trying to correct an issue with DZCreate.exe that is preventing me from using v10g as a base. The DragonStorm ROMs appear to be based on v10d (AT&T) with the OEMMisc from v10g.
trueg said:
Have no fear, I'm still here.
Right now I am trying to correct an issue with DZCreate.exe that is preventing me from using v10g as a base. The DragonStorm ROMs appear to be based on v10d (AT&T) with the OEMMisc from v10g.
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Thanks trueg. you are my best bud.
To be honest, I am really happy with stock AT&T April 2010. (I cannot believe I put up with HTC for 2 years).
I think the first step would be simply removing AT&T Media Net and other AT&T applications, so the ROM would be quick but still stable.
I would even leave many of the LG applications there, because the music player and scientific calculator get the job done, better than some of the cooked ROMs I tried when using HTC.
It is good that you're there yet "man.
You're the only one who stayed bulid the ROMs.
As almost all ROMS from Dark9781, links are dead.
To try the latest ROM do a normal clean version for everyday use, to be able to serve with the device.
All possible ROMs I tried and all use more memory than the official ROM.
Request is then
start top left because all the programs written for it.
thenks
bluetooth AVRCP
I'd love to have Coreplayer recognize avrcp commands so that I can abandon the lame windows media player an dlisten to flacs.
I use the Snapdragon hardware accelerated version of Coreplayer on my own device, but I can't include that in a ROM; Coreplayer is commercial software.
In that I am not sure.
Well TitaniumUI is included in Windows Mobile 6.5+ by default. It doesn't take up any RAM if you don't use it. Simply go to \Settings\Today\Items and uncheck Windows Default.
If you install, this and only this HTC taskmanager.
Because it always works flawlessly
htc_task_2.1.cab
link
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=4924380&postcount=1
And then this program:
MMAppLauncher v1.0.CAB
link
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=795393
start with windows
override start meny
You get 7-10 mb free memory.
The biggest problem is that this program was never completed and make a shortcut for the camera so that you can not start the camera without problems.
Well I have great news.
I have been able to figure out how to build ROMs using the newer style ROMs from LG.
This means that I can use the OEMDrivers from the GW825V and GW820_V10g.
It also means I can build ROMs for the GW825V.
I'm just working on a test ROM that I can post to see if it works for everyone.
Of course that it appears to try as soon as possible.
Because this is a totally useless device!
On t-mobile, can not even mms!!
Has little to, no longer working link to dragonstorm roms.
All the other ones are full of bugs, or use lots of memory to
slow machine.
ROM from AT & T has too many programs that no one will ever use.
So a nice little handy device and fast or should be.
When with task manager FdcSoft v3.3 stop all unnecessary processes, it works most quickly as well as HD2.
Only GAPI drivers are slow as the HTC Wizard or worse.
example:
GAPIBench 1.5-arm on the float test Topaz 1.6800
On the IQ 0.6900
Very gladly start up left.
Because lots and lots of programs simply will not work otherwise inc beautiful program Total Commander.
great news trueg. Look forward to testing it out!
OK, here is the first test.
I'm not sure in what format you guys want these distributed.
I simply zipped up my LGMOBILEAX folder and uploaded it to MediaFire.
http://www.mediafire.com/file/ibkzdxnlp5h8umu/LG_Monaco_Test01.zip
In Windows XP, you would simply extract this to
C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Application Data\
For Windows 7, extract here...
C:\Users\All Users\
I use 7-zip...
http://www.7-zip.org/
Then run
C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Application Data\LGMOBILEAX\SmartPhoneSetup\SP_Starter.exe
If you are running a stock ROM, the application should automatically reboot your phone into emergency mode and start flashing.
If it doesn't (gives error that it can't detect phone), you will need to reset your phone manually and hold down the space button on the keyboard to enter emergency mode.
This ROM should work on GW820, GW825 and GW825V (all LG Monaco devices).
The OEMDrivers are based off of the GW825V. The rest is almost directly from GW820_v10g (AT&T).
Since this is just a test I didn't make many changes.
Please let me know if this works and if there are any problems.
If it works, I will use this as a base for the 6.5 ROM.
The reason I used the GW825V OEMDrivers is because it provides more RAM and storage (take a look at the Memory).
TrueG
Downloading it now...
What sys build is this based on?

[Q] Is there a Haret Android version HTC Kaiser where the camera works ?

Hi,
I have been an old HTC Kaiser, and have been experimenting with Android using Haret, running on top of Windows Mobile 6.1 .
I found Myn's Warm Donut ran well, but that the camera and sound, e.g. ringtones, did not function.
I have spent hours searching the Internet, and found the most people who have tried to fix it have failed and those that did had to sacrifice another feature such as wireless.
Can anyone recommend an Android install that will run on Haret on my Kaiser and allows the camera to function ?
All replies are appreciated.
Regards
GW
you need to make sure have the right kernel or the update for the kernel (zimage is the kernel) check the posts in the build and you should find something (use search).

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