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this is my first thread and if this aint the right place to put it im sorry but i have a question do these roms/themes only work forthe g1 and other htc android phones or could it work 4 any android phone from any company?
no, they would have to ported to work with your specific device.
so these would be useless on a samsung phone
you could try it, but i am pretty sure (like 99.99999%) it wouldn't work. also i haven't looked at the specs (or even read anything about the samsung androids) but i imagine they have a different sized screen and the resolutions of all the images in these roms would not work.
Some samsungs are still on cupcake and havent been updated to 1.6 yet...
and you would need root on the device
but yes..they would probably be useless
even among htc devices, some tweaking is required
What's up XDA, I am a very happy Nexus One owner. That phone is amazing
as we all know. But, I can't lie the G2 is looking more and more tempting.
There are basically 2 issues as I see it:
The G2's hardware is superior to the N1's, period.
(Especially now with perm root, and those amazing overclocks.)
But, the N1 is a true Dev phone, so it gets all the latest software.
(i.e. Gingerbread, Miui, on and on...)
What do you guys think, would you switch from an N1 to a G2?
thats a tough one. I'm a former N1 owner and still miss it. Only reason why i jumped on board with the G2 is because i lost my precious N1 that i had paid the full amount for... Other then that, i'd still hold onto it.
I would hold on to it, especially with the Gingerbread update coming out. Maybe when Gingerbread gets ported to G2, you can make the switch..
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What's up XDA, I am a very happy Nexus One owner. That phone is amazing
as we all know. But, I can't lie the G2 is looking more and more tempting.
There are basically 2 issues as I see it:
The G2's hardware is superior to the N1's, period.
(Especially now with perm root, and those amazing overclocks.)
But, the N1 is a true Dev phone, so it gets all the latest software.
(i.e. Gingerbread, Miui, on and on...)
What do you guys think, would you switch from an N1 to a G2?
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I personally made the jump, but only because I root my phone.
If you dont root your phone I would stay with the N1 but if you do root you will get just about every goodie that the Nexus One does + better everything so I cant think of a reason to stay to be hones.
Gingerbread will be ported over by some developer here a short time after its released on the Nexus One so I wouldnt worry about that ^_^
I am a former N1 user that made the switch to a G2. I can say personally, it was a great choice.
I loved my N1. However, I wasn't huge into the custom roms and modding. I did my fair share of installing custom roms, kernel mods, etc. However, at the end of the day (i.e. after 3 phone replacements due to faulty hardware over the course of my ownership) I found myself sticking to the stock OTA 2.2 software with a few minor kernel mods like cifs.
My main reasons for switching the to G2 were:
1. I really missed having a hardware keyboard (I went from a G1 to the N1)
2. The G2 hardware was superior to the N1 in all respects
3. HSPA+ is awesome in the Seattle area
4. I was able to sell my N1 on Ebay for $440 which pretty much paid for my G2.
My current new found loves for the G2 are:
1. 1497Mhz overclock kicks BUTT in the PSX emulator!
2. Temproot is so easy and doesn't void my warranty
3. Permroot is now established so if I want to go mod crazy later I can
4. Battery life on my G2 is easily double what I got on the N1
Hopefully all this will shed some light on your question and help you with your decision
Yeah me too i switch from the N1 and i was missing it because the root but now we have full power to this phone it have better hardware but is u call iam happy with my decision
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The G2 has a PSX emulator?!? OK, I'm already sold...
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apollostees said:
What's up XDA, I am a very happy Nexus One owner. That phone is amazing
as we all know. But, I can't lie the G2 is looking more and more tempting.
There are basically 2 issues as I see it:
The G2's hardware is superior to the N1's, period.
(Especially now with perm root, and those amazing overclocks.)
But, the N1 is a true Dev phone, so it gets all the latest software.
(i.e. Gingerbread, Miui, on and on...)
What do you guys think, would you switch from an N1 to a G2?
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Former N1 owner here. The G2 is BY FAR a superior device, no contest. I would have waffled a couple days ago when we had no perma-root, but now? Absolutely, one hundred percent superior. The G2 will get all the latest software just like the G1 did -- you can run Froyo on a G1 with no problem, remember. It's the universal handset. The only thing it lacks is a front-facing camera, and I for one couldn't care less about that
I currently have and use both the N1 and the G2.
G2:
+ Faster hardware
+ Keyboard
+ Swype
- Bulky
- No CyanogenMod
N1:
+ Gets updates first
+ CyanogenMod
+ Thin
- No keyboard
- No Swype
I find myself carrying the G2 most of the time because I a corporate user, and I have to send a lot of email from the phone. I am much faster with long emails using the physical keyboard.
No offense the nexus one will get gingerbread but that the last update for that phone. If you want a phone that has support on update, beside rooting then go with the g2 it sure will taste Android 3.0 os honeycomb and Android 4.0 os ice cream for 2011.
add119 said:
No offense the nexus one will get gingerbread but that the last update for that phone. If you want a phone that has support on update, beside rooting then go with the g2 it sure will taste Android 3.0 os honeycomb and Android 4.0 os ice cream for 2011.
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And where did you get that information?
http://www.pocketables.net/2010/11/...d-to-nexus-one-handsets-in-next-few-days.html
I dont have any info on the nexus one not passing beyond 2.3 os.
Trust me the nexus one wont get Android 3.0 os from google.
It will be from xda developer, when google drop the ball on them. It the same way they did with the g1.
Either you root or not and google going to say the samething to users like they did with the g1 in may 2010. Telling the users that they wont support them in 2011.
Why should we trust you? Are you a Google employee? Does one have your ear? You're just making unsubstantiated claims based on your own opinion.
To the person who posted about "no" cyanogen mod.
ROMs are subjective, that doesn't matter unless you disparately need it and still, Cyanogen himself is working on a build for the g2. Plus when the N1 came out, it barely had any ROMs available for it. IT TAKES TIME PEOPLE!
The HW on the G2 is superior, the support will continue. From what it seems, gingerbread will be the last update on the Nexus One before it gets discontinued completely. Sure it was the Official Google phone, and it will always be but its getting old in age, and specs. It's time to move on to bigger and better stuff. I had an N1 and I sold it to buy this G2, and so far it pretty much owns the Nexus One in everything.
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Cyanogen himself is working on a build for the g2.
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Yes, it is likely the G2 will have CM and will have it rather soon. It's not out now, so I was simply stating a fact. The hardware in the G2 is better, but I currently don't notice much a difference in usability between the two. That being said, I prefer the G2, but I am not prepared to write off my N1, yet.
Jay dont believe me i being with android for 2 years .
By now i should know how things work with android updates. All android phones that are google experience phones only get support 1 year from google or manufacture. After that xda developers continue supporting it, to people that interest in them.
add119 said:
Jay dont believe me i being with android for 2 years .
By now i should know how things work with android updates. All android phones that are google experience phones only get support 1 year from google or manufacture. After that xda developers continue supporting it, to people that interest in them.
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You're not the only person who's been around Android for two years. Or around XDA for two years. I know how things HAVE worked. That's not saying for sure that it WILL work the same in the future.
Yeah jay i wish that nexus one users get the latest operating system from google, because not everyone wants to root their phones. Especially, if their new and they dont know about this. And, will be scare of messing up their phones.
So Hi,
I finally got sick of my Galaxy S II, will sell it on ebay, and I ordered a Nexus some Minutes ago.
Well, I have a few questions about the Galaxy Nexus...
1. It's a Google device, so can I just download the pure AOSP, compile it, put it on the Galaxy Nexus and everything will run without hacking around?
2. Do I lose warranty of doing point 1? Since it's a google maintained device...
3. It sounds strange, but can I also compile gingerbread or froyo? WOULD it be possible, or would it be a hard task?
4. Is a Nexus device a good device for starting developement of Kernels / Roms? I son't have experience with that, but I wanted to begin. I made some funny tries on my Huawei U8160, but it can do ... ehm ... nothing interesting...
5. What else should I know, when I own a Nexus device?
Thanks for answering my questions
t0desicy said:
So Hi,
I finally got sick of my Galaxy S II, will sell it on ebay, and I ordered a Nexus some Minutes ago.
Well, I have a few questions about the Galaxy Nexus...
1. It's a Google device, so can I just download the pure AOSP, compile it, put it on the Galaxy Nexus and everything will run without hacking around?
2. Do I lose warranty of doing point 1? Since it's a google maintained device...
3. It sounds strange, but can I also compile gingerbread or froyo? WOULD it be possible, or would it be a hard task?
4. Is a Nexus device a good device for starting developement of Kernels / Roms? I son't have experience with that, but I wanted to begin. I made some funny tries on my Huawei U8160, but it can do ... ehm ... nothing interesting...
5. What else should I know, when I own a Nexus device?
Thanks for answering my questions
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1. Yes. Stock runs pretty well so that is always an option. You might need to hack it to a "yakju" build to receive updates from Google. You can find more about this in other threads.
2. You'll lose warranty, but it doesn't matter. If you need to send it back for warranty purposes, just relock the bootloader and get rid of any evidence that you were rooted. Stock Google Images are present to get you back to stock.
3. I don't see a reason why you would want to compile Gingerbread or Froyo for it. It's a step backwards especially when Ice Cream Sandwich is amazing. You can try but complications will arise getting all the features to work, but again.. I see no purpose in this because Gingerbread / Froyo isn't optimized for dual-cores.
4. Yes its a developer phone for a reason.
5. Enjoy the Nexus experience, the way Android should be without all these manufacturers putting ugly/laggy skins on top of Android.
Hi,
tanks for the fast answer.
3. I don't see a reason why you would want to compile Gingerbread or Froyo for it. It's a step backwards especially when Ice Cream Sandwich is amazing. You can try but complications will arise getting all the features to work, but again.. I see no purpose in this because Gingerbread / Froyo isn't optimized for dual-cores.
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I also don't see any reason... but who cares, I just wanted to know if it's possible to do this - maybe just to set myself something like a destiny, something like "I want to learn that much that I can do BLABLABLA"
But yes, I bought the Nexus just because of Icecreamsandwich, I think the hardware of the galaxy s ii is better, so it feels a bit like a downgrade.
t0desicy said:
Hi,
tanks for the fast answer.
I also don't see any reason... but who cares, I just wanted to know if it's possible to do this - maybe just to set myself something like a destiny, something like "I want to learn that much that I can do BLABLABLA"
But yes, I bought the Nexus just because of Icecreamsandwich, I think the hardware of the galaxy s ii is better, so it feels a bit like a downgrade.
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Lol, I guess it could be a project for you. There are other alternatives like webOS (which is now open sourced).... OR when Honeycomb gets open-sourced (if it ever does) you can port that lolol.
I don't think Galaxy S2 hardware is better, if only thing I'd say the processor possibly. But the screen size and 720p display just leads the road and makes Galaxy Nexus go way further than GS2 imo.
Well, two things that the Galaxy Nexus doesn't have (and oh how badly I wish they did) is the camera and the microSD slot. Other than that, the Galaxy Nexus seem to be on the up and up.
I, too, would like to know how to make Gingerbread and Froyo work on the Galaxy Nexus. It's not a practical thing, but just a "hey, if it's suppose to be a development platform, why can't we?"
Perhaps it's the binary drivers. But mostly I think it's because of the lack of physical buttons.
This makes me wonder if I should get a Nexus S to learn on so I can work with many different versions of Android to my heart's content, as well as extend my learned knowledge to other retail-based phones (HTC, Samsung, LG, etc) since they will also have physical (well, touch sensitive anyways) buttons.
I'm no programmer. I just want to learn how to compile from source, and also to find out how to make the source code work with different devices. Kind of like installing Windows on different PCs (downloading drivers, etc).
I don't have any programming background nor do I get very far from simply flashing roms and whatnot.
Anyone who does understand the boot loader/technical difficulties of dual booting another os onto the galaxy nexus's hardware care to chime in?
I think this was done on the HD7? Seeing as this is the current dev friendly phone of the moment I assume this would be possible.
Thoughts?
If it happens it will be awhile I would presume. The nexus came out two months ago. And wp7 is still a fairly new platform.
Sent from my Nexus in Texas.
It was done on the HD2 but that was a windows mobile device that had Android shoehorned onto it..
it's illegal to put WP7 on anything it dosen't come on the HD2 was an exception as it used the same licenses as WinMo
WP7 is closed-source. It's not going to happen.
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mr_schticker said:
I don't have any programming background nor do I get very far from simply flashing roms and whatnot.
Anyone who does understand the boot loader/technical difficulties of dual booting another os onto the galaxy nexus's hardware care to chime in?
I think this was done on the HD7? Seeing as this is the current dev friendly phone of the moment I assume this would be possible.
Thoughts?
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Buy a WP7 device and put your SIM in it every couple days. That's your best option
TheBiles said:
WP7 is closed-source. It's not going to happen.
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^^^thats what I always heard when this question comes up
So I'm due for an upgrade and I was wondering about this phone as it's the only one I really want. I currently have a motorola phone that was a flagship when it was first released(Atrix 4G) and while it was a decent phone, Motorola didn't really support it and stick to its release schedules with the phone. Normally this would not be a bad thing since there is the development community that one can fall back on, but this hindered the development community since developers needed to rely on Motorola for drivers and kernel along with Nvidia because the processor in the phone was a Tegra and I'm sure you guys already know how much Nvidia and open source don't go well together lol.
Anyways I was wondering if the SIII has(or will have) any sort of issues in the same area due to closed source or Samsung not releasing drivers,etc... to developers after major releases. I would wait for the SIV, but the phone is getting into screen size territory I'm not comfortable with and I don't want a Nexus 4 because the battery life doesn't seem to be as great as the SIII. Basically once I get my next phone, I want to be able to hold onto it for a few years without feeling the need to upgrade because of out of date software. The hardware in the SIII seems more than sufficient to be future proof.
Another side question: would there be any mods that retain some of the software features found in touchwiz or add any such as multitasking? Not a deal breaker, but just wondering.
octahedron said:
So I'm due for an upgrade and I was wondering about this phone as it's the only one I really want. I currently have a motorola phone that was a flagship when it was first released(Atrix 4G) and while it was a decent phone, Motorola didn't really support it and stick to its release schedules with the phone. Normally this would not be a bad thing since there is the development community that one can fall back on, but this hindered the development community since developers needed to rely on Motorola for drivers and kernel along with Nvidia because the processor in the phone was a Tegra and I'm sure you guys already know how much Nvidia and open source don't go well together lol.
Anyways I was wondering if the SIII has(or will have) any sort of issues in the same area due to closed source or Samsung not releasing drivers,etc... to developers after major releases. I would wait for the SIV, but the phone is getting into screen size territory I'm not comfortable with and I don't want a Nexus 4 because the battery life doesn't seem to be as great as the SIII. Basically once I get my next phone, I want to be able to hold onto it for a few years without feeling the need to upgrade because of out of date software. The hardware in the SIII seems more than sufficient to be future proof.
Another side question: would there be any mods that retain some of the software features found in touchwiz or add any such as multitasking? Not a deal breaker, but just wondering.
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Seriously doubt Samsung will "prevent" users from being able to mod unofficially. This is one of their two flagship devices. However, it is the carriers that should worry you more. Remember that there are different hardware versions of the SIII as well. Most likely the international versions will be always ahead in getting new updates. On a carrier such as AT&T you are most likely to be the last to receive an update, if you get it at all. Ultimately, if you want guaranteed updates, Nexus 4 is the only sure way to go.
And seriously, read before you ask about mods. Yes and Yes to both questions. Read through and you will find a lot.
aybarrap1 said:
Seriously doubt Samsung will "prevent" users from being able to mod unofficially.
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This is not completely true. Samsung has already angered alot of the top developers by not releasing the proper info on the exynos chip in some phones. Even after saying they would. Even some CM maintainers have sworn off Samsung until them come threw. But they still have some of the best tract records for android. Even though Sony is moving up fast.
@OP you will always find something about one company or another that wall cause issues with open source development. This is due to the phone OEM not owning all the software code for the devices. Take CDMA phones. They use a closed sourced phone to work on the network. Nothing Samsung can do about it as it is not theirs. We won't even start on the WiFi and BT chip.
In the end. Get a phone that does what you want and need. Development should never be a first choice. That is just a bonus.
aybarrap1 said:
Seriously doubt Samsung will "prevent" users from being able to mod unofficially. This is one of their two flagship devices. However, it is the carriers that should worry you more. Remember that there are different hardware versions of the SIII as well. Most likely the international versions will be always ahead in getting new updates. On a carrier such as AT&T you are most likely to be the last to receive an update, if you get it at all. Ultimately, if you want guaranteed updates, Nexus 4 is the only sure way to go.
And seriously, read before you ask about mods. Yes and Yes to both questions. Read through and you will find a lot.
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I seriously doubted Motorola would have had issues with the Atrix seeing as how it was their flagship device as well. Seeing as how I've never had a Samsung smartphone, I'm not sure how they handle their updates and it has nothing to do with the carriers as much as it had to do with their Nvidia and Motorola because of Tegra and the fingerprint scanner/lapdock.
And "seriously" I've browsed through the developers forum before to see how active it was. All I wanted was a quick confirmation to my question instead of scanning each thread for a phone I may or may not get.
zelendel said:
This is not completely true. Samsung has already angered alot of the top developers by not releasing the proper info on the exynos chip in some phones. Even after saying they would. Even some CM maintainers have sworn off Samsung until them come threw. But they still have some of the best tract records for android. Even though Sony is moving up fast.
@OP you will always find something about one company or another that wall cause issues with open source development. This is due to the phone OEM not owning all the software code for the devices. Take CDMA phones. They use a closed sourced phone to work on the network. Nothing Samsung can do about it as it is not theirs. We won't even start on the WiFi and BT chip.
In the end. Get a phone that does what you want and need. Development should never be a first choice. That is just a bonus.
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Gotcha and thank you.
Hello fellow Atrix owner! I'm a former Atrix owner myself. I can you tell right now, this place is hoppin' compared to the Atrix. You won't be disappointed with the choices with ROMs here! Got a couple of former devs from the Atrix over here as well making ROMs!
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I have 4.2.2 running almost flawlessly already. Even the nexus devices are just having this update rolled out. I think that goes to show the quality of the S3 development. There certainly isn't a lack of ROMs to choose from in this community.
Deggy said:
Hello fellow Atrix owner! I'm a former Atrix owner myself. I can you tell right now, this place is hoppin' compared to the Atrix. You won't be disappointed with the choices with ROMs here! Got a couple of former devs from the Atrix over here as well making ROMs!
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CamFlawless said:
I have 4.2.2 running almost flawlessly already. Even the nexus devices are just having this update rolled out. I think that goes to show the quality of the S3 development. There certainly isn't a lack of ROMs to choose from in this community.
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Well this is good to know
I rooted and had neutrino running on my wife's atrix. Samsung phones are easy compared to that process. There are plenty of stock based and aosp roms available. I have flashed at least 20 different roms since October. I will be jumping on the S4 though when it arrives.
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The samsung was easy to root and there seems to be plenty of rom choice comparatively to some other android phones i've owned.
y0yerrj0sh said:
The samsung was easy to root and there seems to be plenty of rom choice comparatively to some other android phones i've owned.
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S3 is easy to hard brick too if you aren't paying attention to what you are doing. Just saying.....