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I know that boot loaders and hardware may make this impossible, but does anyone think it would be possible to hack WP7 onto Any of these android devices or if anyone plans on creating ROMs and install directions for these?
I own a Droid Incredible and only purchased it because I needed to replace an old phone and didnt want to wait 9 months for WP7 to release. I'd love to be able to hack WP7 onto my handset because it has excellent hardware but I don't have any of the know how to do so and I honestly am let down by Android. The thing I hate the most is that I know there's an extremely thin chance of this even happening ...
Also hoping for this....
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Although the hardware is capable, its the different core OS's, drivers and the different boot loaders that would prevent this from being possible and practical.
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~~Tito~~
I would also like a duel boot between them, however its not really going to happen.
Hey everyone!
I just came over from the n900 camp.
I bought the new Captivate Glide (SGH-I927) yesterday (from Rogers), and I'm loving it so far. It is my first Android phone, though I also have a rooted Iconia Tab a100.
I'm a *nix administrator and hope to be able to contribute something useful to this community.
At the moment, I'm trying to get root, but it looks like I'm the only person in the world with this device, so far. I've tried a few things, but I'm cautious as it seems Samsung hasn't released the stock firmware yet (annoyingly).
Patience, I know. Anyway, if anyone is interested, here are the phone details:
Android 2.3.5
Baseband: I927RUXKJ5
Kernel: 2.6.36.3
Build number: GINGERBREAD.RUXKJ5
If anyone's curious to know more about it, ask away.
If I do manage to find the firmware or get root, I'll post it here.
Try super one click to root.
i'm sure if that device is somewhat popular it will get its own dedicated forum soon.
Have you ever had the OG captivate? Just wondering if you like it better than the original. How is the keyboard and the performance? We just got a ICS port, maybe you shoulda got an og
studacris said:
Try super one click to root.
i'm sure if that device is somewhat popular it will get its own dedicated forum soon.
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Trying, but I'm having a hard time getting ADB working under Windows. It's running in a virtualbox VM, so I guess that may be the problem. Still working on it.
ponyoninja said:
Have you ever had the OG captivate? Just wondering if you like it better than the original. How is the keyboard and the performance? We just got a ICS port, maybe you shoulda got an og
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Nope. First Android phone.
I'm hoping ICS will make its way to this one eventually... right now I'd just settle for root.
Keyboard is okay. n900's was better. Performance is, well, for an ex-n900 user, unbelievable.
Got my Samsung Glide on Sunday at the AT&T store. They only received two of them and I was lucky enough to get one. I am coming from a Sony X10 which I rooted with Super One Click. I am afraid to do Super One Click on the Glide until others with more knowledge give it a try.
This phone is so much faster and the camera is 1,000 times better (even though the X10 was 8.1 MP).
The keyboard is why I bought it and so far, LOVE the phone!!! Would love it even more if rooted, so hopefully others have luck rooting it.
sscianna said:
Got my Samsung Glide on Sunday at the AT&T store. They only received two of them and I was lucky enough to get one. I am coming from a Sony X10 which I rooted with Super One Click. I am afraid to do Super One Click on the Glide until others with more knowledge give it a try.
This phone is so much faster and the camera is 1,000 times better (even though the X10 was 8.1 MP).
The keyboard is why I bought it and so far, LOVE the phone!!! Would love it even more if rooted, so hopefully others have luck rooting it.
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Tried SuperOneClick; no luck. Looks like the kernel we're running is actually from Honeycomb and I guess they patched the vulnerability zergRush was exploiting.
This is really irritating, coming from the n900 world. Google should really clamp down on this whole anti-root nonsense. It is unbelievably customer-hostile.
Got my wife a Glide on Sunday. Glad to see others trying to root like myself. Super one click did nothing for me also:-(
+1 on rooting this thing. Its only been out for 2 days, but it doesnt seem like many people are getting the phone. It would help if we had our own forum.
Post here so to help the chances of us getting our own forum.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1301121
Give zergRush a shot. That thing is rooting just about anything.
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zergRush doesn't work; I don't know much about it but I recall it being a kernel exploit, and the SGH-I927 uses 2.6.36.3 (I think the standard Honeycomb kernel).
I'll be picking up my Captivate Glide tonight or tomorrow I think. Hopefully we can find a root. Doesn't look like many people are buying this device just yet. Hopefully we'll get a dedicated forum.
I picked up one of these on Sunday when it became available (I have been waiting for this phone for months!).
This is now my 3rd Android phone on ATT (Moto Backflip, Moto Flipside, and now Samsung Captivate Glide).
You'll notice that every phone so far has had a physical QWERTY kb (I can't stand using touchscreens for typing).
I do have to say though, that this keyboard is my least favorite of the 3 devices (both the Moto's had a much better feel to the keyboards, sort of bubble buttons, not 100% flat like the kb buttons on the Glide).
The negative difference in the keyboard though is not enough to out-weigh ALL of the positives this phone has over the Moto's (CPU(!!!), screen size, camera, built-in storage, etc, etc). Not to mention getting Gingerbread(2.3) over Android 2.1!
Anyways, I too had looked briefly into rooting this phone, and I just began with looking for root programs for Android 2.3.5 (the Glides android version), and I could not easily find one, granted, I did not look all that hard.
I had/have previously rooted my previous 2 android phones though. And even installed the latest CyanogenMod onto my Backflip (that CPU was just TOOO SLOW, UGH...)
I would hope that a dedicated forum for this phone is coming, as it really has potential. I am holding off on the root search for now, and just looking for basics... like USB drivers / mass storage capabilities when hooked up to a computer.
Does anyone have some directions on this basic stuff?
Thanks!
Well, at least switching it to mass storage mode is easy:
Settings->Wireless and network->USB utilities->Connect storage to PC
I agree with you on the KB. It sucks. It's not unusable, but my n900's keyboard was way better. Still doesn't detract significantly from the overall awesomeness of the device.
... except the root issue, which is seriously aggravating.
Your computer should automatically download the drivers needed for USB connectivity.....if that's what you were referring to.
Have you guys tried the boog kernal??
gatormatt said:
Have you guys tried the boog kernal??
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I think the problem is no root access, hence no access to applications that would allow custom kernels to boot. Getting my g/f one in the coming weeks so hopefully development takes off!
i guess your other option is to whip up a rooted stock kernel and drop it in through Odin/Heimdall. Thats what i used on my Galaxy S 2. Good Luck.
I doubt there will be much dev action for the Glide, as they seem to have moved on to SGS II i777. Unfortunately for people who like physical boards, they are basically dead. Android started out strong for physical boards with the G1 and the DROID, but after DROID 2, no carrier has been carrying a flagship device with a 'board. Even the DROID 3, which is an impressive phone in it's own right, was already overshadowed by Verizon's 4G LTE, which currently doesn't have a high-end keyboarded device.
I wish they would keep going with physical boards, but I finally gave up hope and got an iPhone. My need for high-end phones is greater than my need for a keyboard, so I'm admitting defeat.
I was actually going in to att today to grab a sky rocket, and saw the glide by accident. As soon as I saw the physical kb, I was sold. Love the glide so far.
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So Hi,
I finally got sick of my Galaxy S II, will sell it on ebay, and I ordered a Nexus some Minutes ago.
Well, I have a few questions about the Galaxy Nexus...
1. It's a Google device, so can I just download the pure AOSP, compile it, put it on the Galaxy Nexus and everything will run without hacking around?
2. Do I lose warranty of doing point 1? Since it's a google maintained device...
3. It sounds strange, but can I also compile gingerbread or froyo? WOULD it be possible, or would it be a hard task?
4. Is a Nexus device a good device for starting developement of Kernels / Roms? I son't have experience with that, but I wanted to begin. I made some funny tries on my Huawei U8160, but it can do ... ehm ... nothing interesting...
5. What else should I know, when I own a Nexus device?
Thanks for answering my questions
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So Hi,
I finally got sick of my Galaxy S II, will sell it on ebay, and I ordered a Nexus some Minutes ago.
Well, I have a few questions about the Galaxy Nexus...
1. It's a Google device, so can I just download the pure AOSP, compile it, put it on the Galaxy Nexus and everything will run without hacking around?
2. Do I lose warranty of doing point 1? Since it's a google maintained device...
3. It sounds strange, but can I also compile gingerbread or froyo? WOULD it be possible, or would it be a hard task?
4. Is a Nexus device a good device for starting developement of Kernels / Roms? I son't have experience with that, but I wanted to begin. I made some funny tries on my Huawei U8160, but it can do ... ehm ... nothing interesting...
5. What else should I know, when I own a Nexus device?
Thanks for answering my questions
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1. Yes. Stock runs pretty well so that is always an option. You might need to hack it to a "yakju" build to receive updates from Google. You can find more about this in other threads.
2. You'll lose warranty, but it doesn't matter. If you need to send it back for warranty purposes, just relock the bootloader and get rid of any evidence that you were rooted. Stock Google Images are present to get you back to stock.
3. I don't see a reason why you would want to compile Gingerbread or Froyo for it. It's a step backwards especially when Ice Cream Sandwich is amazing. You can try but complications will arise getting all the features to work, but again.. I see no purpose in this because Gingerbread / Froyo isn't optimized for dual-cores.
4. Yes its a developer phone for a reason.
5. Enjoy the Nexus experience, the way Android should be without all these manufacturers putting ugly/laggy skins on top of Android.
Hi,
tanks for the fast answer.
3. I don't see a reason why you would want to compile Gingerbread or Froyo for it. It's a step backwards especially when Ice Cream Sandwich is amazing. You can try but complications will arise getting all the features to work, but again.. I see no purpose in this because Gingerbread / Froyo isn't optimized for dual-cores.
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I also don't see any reason... but who cares, I just wanted to know if it's possible to do this - maybe just to set myself something like a destiny, something like "I want to learn that much that I can do BLABLABLA"
But yes, I bought the Nexus just because of Icecreamsandwich, I think the hardware of the galaxy s ii is better, so it feels a bit like a downgrade.
t0desicy said:
Hi,
tanks for the fast answer.
I also don't see any reason... but who cares, I just wanted to know if it's possible to do this - maybe just to set myself something like a destiny, something like "I want to learn that much that I can do BLABLABLA"
But yes, I bought the Nexus just because of Icecreamsandwich, I think the hardware of the galaxy s ii is better, so it feels a bit like a downgrade.
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Lol, I guess it could be a project for you. There are other alternatives like webOS (which is now open sourced).... OR when Honeycomb gets open-sourced (if it ever does) you can port that lolol.
I don't think Galaxy S2 hardware is better, if only thing I'd say the processor possibly. But the screen size and 720p display just leads the road and makes Galaxy Nexus go way further than GS2 imo.
Well, two things that the Galaxy Nexus doesn't have (and oh how badly I wish they did) is the camera and the microSD slot. Other than that, the Galaxy Nexus seem to be on the up and up.
I, too, would like to know how to make Gingerbread and Froyo work on the Galaxy Nexus. It's not a practical thing, but just a "hey, if it's suppose to be a development platform, why can't we?"
Perhaps it's the binary drivers. But mostly I think it's because of the lack of physical buttons.
This makes me wonder if I should get a Nexus S to learn on so I can work with many different versions of Android to my heart's content, as well as extend my learned knowledge to other retail-based phones (HTC, Samsung, LG, etc) since they will also have physical (well, touch sensitive anyways) buttons.
I'm no programmer. I just want to learn how to compile from source, and also to find out how to make the source code work with different devices. Kind of like installing Windows on different PCs (downloading drivers, etc).
So I'm due for an upgrade and I was wondering about this phone as it's the only one I really want. I currently have a motorola phone that was a flagship when it was first released(Atrix 4G) and while it was a decent phone, Motorola didn't really support it and stick to its release schedules with the phone. Normally this would not be a bad thing since there is the development community that one can fall back on, but this hindered the development community since developers needed to rely on Motorola for drivers and kernel along with Nvidia because the processor in the phone was a Tegra and I'm sure you guys already know how much Nvidia and open source don't go well together lol.
Anyways I was wondering if the SIII has(or will have) any sort of issues in the same area due to closed source or Samsung not releasing drivers,etc... to developers after major releases. I would wait for the SIV, but the phone is getting into screen size territory I'm not comfortable with and I don't want a Nexus 4 because the battery life doesn't seem to be as great as the SIII. Basically once I get my next phone, I want to be able to hold onto it for a few years without feeling the need to upgrade because of out of date software. The hardware in the SIII seems more than sufficient to be future proof.
Another side question: would there be any mods that retain some of the software features found in touchwiz or add any such as multitasking? Not a deal breaker, but just wondering.
octahedron said:
So I'm due for an upgrade and I was wondering about this phone as it's the only one I really want. I currently have a motorola phone that was a flagship when it was first released(Atrix 4G) and while it was a decent phone, Motorola didn't really support it and stick to its release schedules with the phone. Normally this would not be a bad thing since there is the development community that one can fall back on, but this hindered the development community since developers needed to rely on Motorola for drivers and kernel along with Nvidia because the processor in the phone was a Tegra and I'm sure you guys already know how much Nvidia and open source don't go well together lol.
Anyways I was wondering if the SIII has(or will have) any sort of issues in the same area due to closed source or Samsung not releasing drivers,etc... to developers after major releases. I would wait for the SIV, but the phone is getting into screen size territory I'm not comfortable with and I don't want a Nexus 4 because the battery life doesn't seem to be as great as the SIII. Basically once I get my next phone, I want to be able to hold onto it for a few years without feeling the need to upgrade because of out of date software. The hardware in the SIII seems more than sufficient to be future proof.
Another side question: would there be any mods that retain some of the software features found in touchwiz or add any such as multitasking? Not a deal breaker, but just wondering.
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Seriously doubt Samsung will "prevent" users from being able to mod unofficially. This is one of their two flagship devices. However, it is the carriers that should worry you more. Remember that there are different hardware versions of the SIII as well. Most likely the international versions will be always ahead in getting new updates. On a carrier such as AT&T you are most likely to be the last to receive an update, if you get it at all. Ultimately, if you want guaranteed updates, Nexus 4 is the only sure way to go.
And seriously, read before you ask about mods. Yes and Yes to both questions. Read through and you will find a lot.
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Seriously doubt Samsung will "prevent" users from being able to mod unofficially.
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This is not completely true. Samsung has already angered alot of the top developers by not releasing the proper info on the exynos chip in some phones. Even after saying they would. Even some CM maintainers have sworn off Samsung until them come threw. But they still have some of the best tract records for android. Even though Sony is moving up fast.
@OP you will always find something about one company or another that wall cause issues with open source development. This is due to the phone OEM not owning all the software code for the devices. Take CDMA phones. They use a closed sourced phone to work on the network. Nothing Samsung can do about it as it is not theirs. We won't even start on the WiFi and BT chip.
In the end. Get a phone that does what you want and need. Development should never be a first choice. That is just a bonus.
aybarrap1 said:
Seriously doubt Samsung will "prevent" users from being able to mod unofficially. This is one of their two flagship devices. However, it is the carriers that should worry you more. Remember that there are different hardware versions of the SIII as well. Most likely the international versions will be always ahead in getting new updates. On a carrier such as AT&T you are most likely to be the last to receive an update, if you get it at all. Ultimately, if you want guaranteed updates, Nexus 4 is the only sure way to go.
And seriously, read before you ask about mods. Yes and Yes to both questions. Read through and you will find a lot.
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I seriously doubted Motorola would have had issues with the Atrix seeing as how it was their flagship device as well. Seeing as how I've never had a Samsung smartphone, I'm not sure how they handle their updates and it has nothing to do with the carriers as much as it had to do with their Nvidia and Motorola because of Tegra and the fingerprint scanner/lapdock.
And "seriously" I've browsed through the developers forum before to see how active it was. All I wanted was a quick confirmation to my question instead of scanning each thread for a phone I may or may not get.
zelendel said:
This is not completely true. Samsung has already angered alot of the top developers by not releasing the proper info on the exynos chip in some phones. Even after saying they would. Even some CM maintainers have sworn off Samsung until them come threw. But they still have some of the best tract records for android. Even though Sony is moving up fast.
@OP you will always find something about one company or another that wall cause issues with open source development. This is due to the phone OEM not owning all the software code for the devices. Take CDMA phones. They use a closed sourced phone to work on the network. Nothing Samsung can do about it as it is not theirs. We won't even start on the WiFi and BT chip.
In the end. Get a phone that does what you want and need. Development should never be a first choice. That is just a bonus.
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Gotcha and thank you.
Hello fellow Atrix owner! I'm a former Atrix owner myself. I can you tell right now, this place is hoppin' compared to the Atrix. You won't be disappointed with the choices with ROMs here! Got a couple of former devs from the Atrix over here as well making ROMs!
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I have 4.2.2 running almost flawlessly already. Even the nexus devices are just having this update rolled out. I think that goes to show the quality of the S3 development. There certainly isn't a lack of ROMs to choose from in this community.
Deggy said:
Hello fellow Atrix owner! I'm a former Atrix owner myself. I can you tell right now, this place is hoppin' compared to the Atrix. You won't be disappointed with the choices with ROMs here! Got a couple of former devs from the Atrix over here as well making ROMs!
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CamFlawless said:
I have 4.2.2 running almost flawlessly already. Even the nexus devices are just having this update rolled out. I think that goes to show the quality of the S3 development. There certainly isn't a lack of ROMs to choose from in this community.
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Well this is good to know
I rooted and had neutrino running on my wife's atrix. Samsung phones are easy compared to that process. There are plenty of stock based and aosp roms available. I have flashed at least 20 different roms since October. I will be jumping on the S4 though when it arrives.
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The samsung was easy to root and there seems to be plenty of rom choice comparatively to some other android phones i've owned.
y0yerrj0sh said:
The samsung was easy to root and there seems to be plenty of rom choice comparatively to some other android phones i've owned.
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S3 is easy to hard brick too if you aren't paying attention to what you are doing. Just saying.....
I know I'm getting a little ahead of myself but I have an upgrade coming soon for my contract and have been heavily researching all the phones out there at the moment. I really like the idea of the z5 premium with obviously the 4k display, the ip68 rating, and especially the microsd card slot. My one question is that, coming from my most recent phone, the Verizon Note 4, I was very dissappointed with the fact that I could not root the phone and could not utilize my favorite form of android, Stock, Pure Android.
So I guess my main question is, considering my lack of familiarity with Sony devices, I was wondering what the chances that I could ultimately root and install an "almost" stock ROM on the Z5 Premium were?
Well it is impossible to say this early but judging to earliel relases, root method has came everytime in less than 6 months to newest device. its basicly when someone invents root method to 5.1.1, its gonna be converted to xperia devices too soon. Ofc after that a little longer for carrier modded ROMs. (we dont have such crap here) Cannot say about 6.0 or other updates yet. Then if you want Recovery or flash ROMs you need to wait for people to make them for Z5P, gonna take some time too. Considering your lack with Sony devices youre in luck, if you have any experience with rooting/flashing, its like taking candy from a baby.
hope this clears a bit, even tho i didnt give much of an answer !
I may be mistaken here, but I don't believe the t-mo variant of the Z3 was rootable. The bootloader unlocking was not possible. That may have changed since I owned it, but that's my recollection.
Cant say, we dont have variants here, even carriers are selling sim unlocked versions.
Any news about root possibilities now ?
Root can be achieved through being flashed through recovery
However root tools wont come till someone finds a exploit