Solving the lack of internal storage problem! - Desire General

I somehow thought Froyo would resolve the issue - but it's far from the case. I'm still regularly seeing the out of storage space message, and it's highly frustrating. It's just ruins a near impeccable phone!
If I was to root it, would I be able to use the rooted move to SD cards app to force the non-movable apps? I read that the ADB method of forcing apps to move can corrupt the memory card? Either way - are there any solutions to this??

If you root and s-off, you can also modify the mtd partitions on you device, increasing the size of the data partition .......
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AndroHero said:
If you root and s-off, you can also modify the mtd partitions on you device, increasing the size of the data partition .......
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Sounds like hard work. If I was to root, can I use an app2sd app to force all my apps to SD? is this the same as the ADB froyo method?

If you rooted you could use apps2sd+ you would defo reclaim some space over the native froyo move to sd but i dont know how much, might not be an awfull lot.
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Like other dude said s-off and mtd partition, its not that hard but its worth it if you have alot of apps.
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AndroHero said:
If you rooted you could use apps2sd+ you would defo reclaim some space over the native froyo move to sd but i dont know how much, might not be an awfull lot.
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Actually, it is an awful lot if you root and use apps2sd+.
I initially rooted just to use Market Enabler. But I took the plunge and installed LeeDroid's ROM which uses apps2sd.
With my usual number of apps, I used to have about 30 or 40 MB free in internal memory. Now, I have between 90 to 100 MB free.
Because of this, I install more apps than I need and I still have over 60 MB free.

With A2SD+, youll only lose internal storage with the data from apps (Google Earth, HTC Sense Contacts storage) and until you fill your ext partition obviously. Its ridiculously easy to root these days anyway.
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We could do with a dummies guide to mtd partitioning. It ought to become the norm but right now it's a bit intimidating. If I get time to read up I will give it a go.

I've been struggling with this issue many times. I used the ADB method to avoid rooting, and it works good. But it's still not unlimited.
Recently I did a factory reset. Now I'm installing the apps I really need (with adb method) and I have 95 MB free. But i'm expecting the same problems in a few months when apps are building up.
I want to root only for Apps2SD(+), but I think the easiest way is flashing a ROM with APPS2SD already cooked in?

can Apps2SD+ not be installed on an existing rooted rom? there are a few threads about sd crads becoming corrupt with the method. has that been resolved yet?

Yes it can be added on with a mod. And yes the issues with sd card corruption have now been fully fixed.
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Cm6 internal memory

I've just noticed that I have run low on internal memory on my incredible and I have nothing rly installed on my phone and all my music is on the sd card
Is there something wrong with my phone or is it the rom?
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I am searching and searching for this problem but no one really has an asnwer... Why cant anyone help us out?
I have a stock unrooted Droid Incredible and have installed about 20-30 free apps from the market and I am getting this low memory error.
I go into "settings/sd & phone storage" and it says:
SD card
Total space
7.39GB
Available space
4.83GB
Internal phone storage
Total space
6.46GB
Available space
6.41GB
Phone Memory
Total space
748MB
Available space
572MB
The only way to correct the problem is to uninstall some programs.
I have moved all the apps that I can to the SD card.
As it is right now, if I install an app, I will get the "low on memory" error and I will have to uninstall something in order to try something new.
I dont want to start a new thread so I figured this one was the closest to my problem.
SO PLEASE help me with this.
I dont really want to use anything other than stock rom, been there done that and had too many probs with little things not working(on a different phone).. I would like to keep it stock..... For now anyway... lol
Thanks for any comments...
Blind
BlindDude said:
I am searching and searching for this problem but no one really has an asnwer... Why cant anyone help us out?
I have a stock unrooted Droid Incredible and have installed about 20-30 free apps from the market and I am getting this low memory error.
I go into "settings/sd & phone storage" and it says:
SD card
Total space
7.39GB
Available space
4.83GB
Internal phone storage
Total space
6.46GB
Available space
6.41GB
Phone Memory
Total space
748MB
Available space
572MB
The only way to correct the problem is to uninstall some programs.
I have moved all the apps that I can to the SD card.
As it is right now, if I install an app, I will get the "low on memory" error and I will have to uninstall something in order to try something new.
I dont want to start a new thread so I figured this one was the closest to my problem.
SO PLEASE help me with this.
I dont really want to use anything other than stock rom, been there done that and had too many probs with little things not working(on a different phone).. I would like to keep it stock..... For now anyway... lol
Thanks for any comments...
Blind
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Open up a terminal and type "df -h" - post the output if it isn't self explanatory.
This assumes you've rooted the device.
Nope, I haven't rooted it. I guess I should start reading about rooting.
Any links you might want to share for an Android noob? For rooting of coarse.
I come from windows mobile and I never had to deal with "rooting". We just had to "unlock" our phones.
Thanks
Blind
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BlindDude said:
Nope, I haven't rooted it. I guess I should start reading about rooting.
Any links you might want to share for an Android noob? For rooting of coarse.
I come from windows mobile and I never had to deal with "rooting". We just had to "unlock" our phones.
Thanks
Blind
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Go to the development forum and check the sticky threads. Particularly, the thread with links to other helpful threads should be useful. Pretty sure you just need to run unrevoked forever, flash a custom recovery, then the rom of your choice.

Apps fail to install

Ever since I upgraded my Desire to stock Froyo from Telus, some apps I've tried to install are failing. It just says that the installation was unsuccessful. I currently have 24mb of internal space, and 6.4gb of SD card space.
Any ideas why this is happening? It's really starting to bug me.
Ditto
Apologies for posting in the Desire thread, however my unrooted HTC Incredible with 2.2 is having the same issues. Apps will download and attempt to install, only to fail.
couto607 said:
Ever since I upgraded my Desire to stock Froyo from Telus, some apps I've tried to install are failing. It just says that the installation was unsuccessful. I currently have 24mb of internal space, and 6.4gb of SD card space.
Any ideas why this is happening? It's really starting to bug me.
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what apps are failing to install?
Any app really. I tried to upgrade trillian, and it was failing to work. I don't know why, but once I actually uninstalled what was already on my phone, it started working again. Same thing with Google Translate app.
couto607 said:
Any app really. I tried to upgrade trillian, and it was failing to work. I don't know why, but once I actually uninstalled what was already on my phone, it started working again. Same thing with Google Translate app.
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are you using apps2sd? myabe your ext partition is full
My apps install to my phone by default, then I use App 2 SD to move it. I currently have 6gb of free external space.
Hmm ok. I notced that they fail to update already isntall apps if the App is on my SD card.
Any solutions to that?
I had this with LeeDrOiD, you will need root and S=Off, remove the smdl2tmp1.ascec in: /mnt/secure/asec/smdl2tmp1.asec.
As always, do a nandroid backup.

How to get more space without rooting

Hello all - searched but apologize if this is a double post!
Searched this forum about a solution to low memory but everything is always rooting...
This is very easy and works with HTC Gingerbread 2.3.3! Apparently there are no downsides so it's a win win situation! ;-)
Enjoy on your own responsibility...
http://androidforums.com/desire-tip...ore-most-apps-sd-without-root-simplified.html
As far as I know, this is NO magic new solution. It's been around longer, and just tells your phone to install all new apps to SD card (if the app supports it) in the default Android 2.2 (Froyo) and 2.3 (gingerbread) apps2sd fashion. It just automated what you could otherwise do manually from Settings/Applications menu.
It is true that apps2sd does work better in 2.3 than in 2.2. Supposedly it also moves lib/*.so files now
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Definately an improvement over stock HTC Gingerbread 2.3.3! You are now able to move apps to SD that were not possible before... Exg Flashlight and Handsent sms. So it is absolutely worth a try if you don't want to root but still need some more space...
New or not - It's still good... ;-)

[Q] Space after official 2.3 upgrade

A question to those who have upgraded to 2.3 using HTC's official upgrade.
Does the phone have less internal memory available after the update?
I mean I'm already a bit squeezed for space, will this only be worse if i upgrade to 2.3?
yes, but depending on what apps you install, apps2sd is better, moving more of *some* apps.
rootSU said:
yes, but depending on what apps you install, apps2sd is better, moving more of *some* apps.
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I don't quite understand what you are suggestion.
Obviously I move everything to sd if i can - but noticeably Googles own bloatware (like the market) can't and refuse to budge.
I'm just worried I'd end up with even less internal space.
Kermode said:
I don't quite understand what you are suggestion.
Obviously I move everything to sd if i can - but noticeably Googles own bloatware (like the market) can't and refuse to budge.
I'm just worried I'd end up with even less internal space.
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A quick lesson.
The *main* partitions on the NAND memory are:
/system (where the ROM and all its apps go)
/cache (where market downloads are stored whilst downloading)
/data (where all user apps, data and settings are stored - this is refered to as "Internal Storage"
What is in /system/app (google maps etc) is NOT counting towards your "Internal storage" in /data. It is irrelevant if you can move them or not.
"move to sd" in Android is better in 2.3 than 2.2.
In 2.2, "move to sd" moves /data/app/whatever.apk to /sdcard/.android_secure, making more space available in /data
in 2.3, "move to sd" moves the same as above AND ALSO /data/data/whatever/lib.
However, NOT ALL apps have /lib. So yes, after 2.3, it takes more of the space up in /data with settings storage etc, but depending on what apps you have, you will compensate by being able to move app libs as well as the apks.
Hope this clarifies.
Ah, thanks rootSU - that does clarify it.
So what HTC's program does is making a larger "system" partition?
Do you know where the phone stores received/sent SMS messages? Do they go "data"?
No system stays the same size at 250MB. It just stores more information in /data.
Sms is /data/data/com.android.providers.telephony/databases/mmssms.db
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rootSU said:
No system stays the same size at 250MB. It just stores more information in /data.
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Hm, I read somewhere they said they had to repartition the internal memory which is why it couldn't be an over the air update.
rootSU said:
Sms is /data/data/com.android.providers.telephony/databases/mmssms.db
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Thanks. So I guess its really a bad idea to save your messages if it keeps eating away of your memory.
Kermode said:
Hm, I read somewhere they said they had to repartition the internal memory which is why it couldn't be an over the air update.
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Nope. They had to remove stuff to make it fit. They were not entirely happy with their finished product so released it as a dev-only release
Kermode said:
Thanks. So I guess its really a bad idea to save your messages if it keeps eating away of your memory.
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SMS are really small. I personally back all my sms up to gmail (Label) using sms backup+
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Nope. They had to remove stuff to make it fit.
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Really? I know they removed things, but I made note of the repartitioning comment because, hence why I asked if there was less memory available.
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They were not entirely happy with their finished product so released it as a dev-only release
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What I heard was that it was necessary to run a program on the PC and they thought most people couldn't figure it out.
Do you think there is a reason to upgrade or not to upgrade to this?
(i'm not going to root eiter way)
I did upgrade to the official 2.3 and the result was that the phone got slower. With 2.2 I was able to watch 720p videos on youtube (using the browser, not the app) and sometimes even 1080p. But after the upgrade 720p got very laggy. So, just skip upgrading and root your phone. There are plenty of awesome roms over here!
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Really? I know they removed things, but I made note of the repartitioning comment because, hence why I asked if there was less memory available.
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There was a comment in a thread asking why they couldn't repartition in the update. Someone replied it wasnt possible and I said that it probably would be but there was no way it would be done. Not sure if thats what you're refering to, but they definitely did not repartiton the NAND. They removed apps and wallpapers to get it to fit in the 250MB /system partition
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What I heard was that it was necessary to run a program on the PC and they thought most people couldn't figure it out.
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Its called an RUU. Rom Upgrade utility. Many of tehse are available for HTC phones. You can get full ROM's in RUU format or parts of in OTA updates. They usually release both, but they simply didnt other with OTA for this they didnt want to release it. They only continued due to pressure from the consumer base.
Kermode said:
Do you think there is a reason to upgrade or not to upgrade to this?
(i'm not going to root eiter way)
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Generally 2.3 GB is a faster and better OS than 2.2. That said, I rooted at 2.1 and have not had a stock sense ROM since my first 2.2 ROM nearly a year and a half ago (if not longer, I forget). I'm not really in a position to comment on how good stock 2.3 is or if you are likely to have video playback issues as mentioned above. I can only really talk to you about root, which you said you will not do.

[Q] Samsung Galaxy Y

Hello again, I love the galaxy y but My internal memory is only 160MB and it's almost full and now I can't install any more apps I already moved all the apps I could to the SD Card ....
Is there any way to free up some pc or any way to remove that f**king bloatware from samsung ?
Thanks in advance (this forum is awesome)
GianniDPC said:
Hello again, I love the galaxy y but My internal memory is only 160MB and it's almost full and now I can't install any more apps I already moved all the apps I could to the SD Card ....
Is there any way to free up some pc or any way to remove that f**king bloatware from samsung ?
Thanks in advance (this forum is awesome)
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Go for the HTC One S
cliff0796 said:
Go for the HTC One S
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Lol too late xc
I was looking at this one,
We needed a bunch of phones to run Google Authenticator on (so nothing fancy), but for normal use 256MB of RAM is not much.
I come across the HTC Explorer, which has 512MB, better screen and is around 130eur.
try uninstalling unwanted apps on the system like email,maps, etc. But be careful of what you uninstall! This may lead to boot loop. And bricking you're phone. Try reading google docs. You can uninstall it using Titanium Backup.
If you're memory too low, try partitioning you're sd card.
I just partitioned my sdcard, and used link2sd.
I'm on a stock rom btw, but fully rooted.
After setting it up, it worked fine. No conflicts on start up and the second partition mounted fine.
Only thing that was weird, is after linking all apps to card, there was a mount error, and in log on /data for link2sd, it said phone or resources busy.
Reboot again, and it's fine. I tried it, and booted several times now with no more problems. It's just the one mount error. Perhaps a slight bug but it's fine now.
I partitioned my card with the cwm zip skin done, in developer section (madteamgalaxyY.zip works too)
So give link2sd a try.
I've close to 100 applications installed, and i've still got almost 159mb space on internal memory.
I also removed all the bloat from the rom too, that I didn't want.
So if you're rooted, or know what you're doing, then I'd advise you on the above.
If your not root savvy, then look it up, google it, and research, so you know what you're doing lolz.
I know a lot now, but I'm still only a rookie, and no developer by any standards. Just a user who's more savvy, and not too scared to mess up.
Good luck, and hope that helps.
If your not rooted, just search the forums here for the update.zip. to root it via stock recovery if you're comfortable with rooting, and only if you know what you're doing ;-)
As if you mess up, it's on your own head lolz. I'm just giving advice, based on what I did, to solve the space issue on our galaxy y.
Good luck anyways ;-)
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So I need to partition my SD to 2 partitions ?
simonrussell77, Thanks will try that out !!! it would be awesome to get /Data on my sdcard but another question :S what bloatware apps are safe to remove ??
GianniDPC said:
So I need to partition my SD to 2 partitions ?
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Yup, like I said. But if you wish to partition your card by computer, then google and forum search is your friend ;-)
But personally, using the cwm zip, on the developer forum section does the job fine. Just search for it ;-)
GianniDPC said:
simonrussell77, Thanks will try that out !!! it would be awesome to get /Data on my sdcard but another question :S what bloatware apps are safe to remove ??
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This list shows which ones are safe and which ones are not. I used this list. I can't remember who posted this list here originally, but I remember bookmarking it. (Apologies to original poster, if I haven't credited you, but I can't remember who you are)
https://spreadsheets.google.com/spr...=0Ag43oj7rLQP4dENZcmhGN0ZUa3pHSENVeXlqUm5vV0E
That should get you on your way.
And finally if you want my advice, please read FAQ's in the link2sd app menu, in about section and visit the developers site, as there is a lot of information that will help you further, and will help educate you on things you may not be sure on. It helped me, a lot.
I didn't ask questions, when I was learning new tricks, I just educated myself by searching here and via google, as some people moan if you ask before searching, but I don't mind telling if I know or remember lolz.
Anyways, good luck.
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you have given him a full tutorial simon. thats a generous of you.
I definetely agree when simon said that google and search menu is our best friend here. please use them before asking anything. most of more experienced user will ignore this kind of post. it is more wise to put any kind of question to the FAQ section. you're welcomed to ask anything there. please don't be hesitate to ask us there.
Yeah right .. search first before asking/posting.. Search engines will always be your bestfriend..
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Lol, well it worked but is it normal my phone is booting slower now.... I linked everything to the SD Card.
Thanks in advance and sorry again
plzzz....
im also use link2sd
but when i link apps which r one sd card to 2nd partition the internal get full....
Plzzz help
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160 mb?
GianniDPC said:
Hello again, I love the galaxy y but My internal memory is only 160MB and it's almost full and now I can't install any more apps I already moved all the apps I could to the SD Card ....
Is there any way to free up some pc or any way to remove that f**king bloatware from samsung ?
Thanks in advance (this forum is awesome)
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How come your galaxy y has only 160 MB as internal memory? mine has 190 MB.
Another thing
Another thing I noticed is that it keeps telling me my internal memory is low even when the installed apps probably occupy only about 35 MB.
I'm considering doing a factory reset.

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