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I bought this: http://goo.gl/70Els
I'm wondering if it will solve the bump charge issue and will charge the battery fully without having to go through hoops to just charge a battery!!!
I'm tired of being at 90% after ten minutes after a full night charge!
Thanks
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mmtoman said:
I bought this: http://goo.gl/70Els
I'm wondering if it will solve the bump charge issue and will charge the battery fully without having to go through hoops to just charge a battery!!!
I'm tired of being at 90% after ten minutes after a full night charge!
Thanks
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Very doubtful. Your best best is the kernel being developed in the dev section with increased charging.
My question has nothing to do with the phone itself because the battery is not in the phone when its charging, it's sitting in the cradle. Nothing to do with the phone itself. Do you think the cradle will charge the battery fully and completely.
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Yea it bumps it I have one as well. But its bad for the battery.
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I've got the charger mentioned as well. I just see it charge the battery "normally" to 100%, and if needed over the next ~xx(x) hours or so, another trickle at low mA will be applied. That isn't the same as this "bump charge" that is always referred to here.
If you turn the phone off and charge, it'll charge just like the charger (Seido) to 100%.
There's lot of good info about LI batteries like this writeup: http://batteryuniversity.com/index.php/learn/article/charging_lithium_ion_batteries
Anyway: I thought the main gripe about the DINC charging technique is not anything about the technique, but that it always runs the phone off the battery, rather than using the USB current when it's plugged in. Most phones use the USB (or whatever tech) to a) charge the battery and b) run the phone. Of course if this is HTC's method, then you'll very rarely unplug at 100%.
The rate of battery consumption, regardless of % starting point is more of an issue for me. Using all the SENSE/HTC/VERIZON stuff is a losing proposition more than not having 1-9% of the full capacity at 'go' time. As soon as I rooted, I dumped every app and service starting with HTC*, VER*, *sense* and battery life improved by a great deal. Yeah, I don't care about social networking (well, aside from a forum or two ) -- But I enjoy most of the other phone functionality.
The charger's fine, it's the battery that troubles me
I have the charger, too. Works fine. Does not require "bump."
But the battery (the 1750) that came with it has failed to impress me much, with a tendency to overheat. Frankly, since I rooted and started using SetCPU to underclock with screen off, I've been using the stock battery.
For anyone using Android 4.0, specifically running it as stock on this device, do you experience the same battery drain issues commonly seen in Gingerbread? You know the one where the process Android OS uses an ungodly amount of battery life through suspend and events/0?
been playing around with the phone for the past 8 hours from a full charge, nothing unusual about the battery
tomorrow with normal usage after the full charge i'll get a better view about it
h9290 said:
been playing around with the phone for the past 8 hours from a full charge, nothing unusual about the battery
tomorrow with normal usage after the full charge i'll get a better view about it
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Does it take long to charge the battery? Like the nexus s. If its a slow charging phone like the nexus s then im not buying.
didn't think that fully charging it toke that much
i usually leave the phone charge when i go to sleep
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I own Nexus S too and experience the same, slow charging ... using the charger from Samsung (default).
So, I changed the charger and I use the one that came with the HTC Desire
And it is much faster, like 3 hours to go fully charged compared to more than 5 hours.
So, there you go, change your charger!
sheek360 said:
Does it take long to charge the battery? Like the nexus s. If its a slow charging phone like the nexus s then im not buying.
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I can usually get my nexus S to a full charge in an hour or two, depending on how empty I let it get. It's fast enough that if I've forgot to charge & need to go out a 20 minute blast will get me through the evening.
No idea who made the charger.. I've got a house full of the damned things these days
So what about life time?
Just check your chargers mA output, the higher the nr, the faster the charge. A computer USB port outputs 500mA wich gives a rather slow charge normal mA on chargers is around 700mA -> 1A. Keep in mind though that higher mA resulting in a faster charge puts more stress on your battery and it WILL get hotter, to high numbers can even damage your battery so be carefull and monitor your batterys temp when trying a new charger!
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7:30 and the battery is on 58%
been using it since 9:15 off charge. browsing/gps/wifi and browsing
h9290 said:
didn't think that fully charging it toke that much
i usually leave the phone charge when i go to sleep
removed from a 100% charge at 9:15am GMT
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h9290 said:
7:30 and the battery is on 58%
been using it since 9:15 off charge. browsing/gps/wifi and browsing
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Wow! That sounds really really good tbh! Makes me really happy to hear :-D
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Slightly off topic, but regarding charging...
Does charging via a "weaker" USB port damage the battery? For example, at work, the only USB port available is an old iMac keyboard USB port, and it's "weaker" in the sense that when I connect it to my phone, the computer tells me "A USB device needs more power.... "
I understand this might charge the battery slower, but does it cause any damage to it, short or long term?
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Slightly off topic, but regarding charging...
Does charging via a "weaker" USB port damage the battery? For example, at work, the only USB port available is an old iMac keyboard USB port, and it's "weaker" in the sense that when I connect it to my phone, the computer tells me "A USB device needs more power.... "
I understand this might charge the battery slower, but does it cause any damage to it, short or long term?
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As far as i know USB before 2.0 needed external power supply, meaning your device should not be able to charge from this type of USB. But to answer your question, no, you can not damage an electric device by undervoltage or lower Amps.
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Hope to get the GN soon.
Like to see and test how the charging is with different chargers.
Have seen slow charging ( also better hold out ) with different chargers.
My best charging is stil with the original desire ( charges quick and battery holds longer ).
Galaxy S plus is slow, wildefire also slow...
So i was just wondering, in regards to the lifespan of the phone's battery, would it be beneficial to use a "normal" charger (say a standard charger from a One m8) when charging the phone over night?
I figure since you don't need to charge the phone quickly while you're asleep, is it healthier for the battery in the long run? Or on the contrary, would it be detrimental to the life of the battery in any way?
I'm no professional, but if you have the time over night charge with a 1A Charger.
I'm sure it's better to charge a bit slower. I've always liked slow chargers myself but it probably wouldn't make a noticeable difference in overall battery life after a couple years. I feel the m8 charger is still really fast and I still get 2 days out of it even after it sat in a drawer for 7 months before I decided to ditch the m9. The phone stops charging when it's full anyway. I'm sure there are battery experts out there that know for sure, but I wouldn't worry about it
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Yeah, also not a professional but I'd say it would be better to slowly charge.
In the end the charge rate is less significant of an impact than the amount it actually needs to charge. So in other words 2 top offs of 50 to 100 is much better for the battery than 0 to 100 every night.
Actually it's the other way around
http://www.pcworld.com/article/2683...last-slow-charging-may-not-be-the-answer.html
I also remember reading a NASA article (cant find it dammit) about this where, if I remember correctly, they found out that
faster is better
don't charge it all the way to 100%
don't discharge it all the way to 0% (doh)
I'm not 100% sure it was a NASA article but I can clearly remember it had something to do with space.
If I find it, I'll link it here
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Actually it's the other way around
http://www.pcworld.com/article/2683...last-slow-charging-may-not-be-the-answer.html
I also remember reading a NASA article (cant find it dammit) about this where, if I remember correctly, they found out that
faster is better
don't charge it all the way to 100%
don't discharge it all the way to 0% (doh)
I'm not 100% sure it was a NASA article but I can clearly remember it had something to do with space.
If I find it, I'll link it here
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Hmm, that's interesting and kind of surprising. So should we expect that quick charge 3.0 is capable of charging things in a way that actually extends the life of the battery?
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Hmm, that's interesting and kind of surprising. So should we expect that quick charge 3.0 is capable of charging things in a way that actually extends the life of the battery?
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Yeah. Charging any other way is asinine. QC 3 is the fastest and healthiest charging technology for this device.
http://www.androidauthority.com/quick-charge-3-0-explained-643053/
I've had my Nexus 5x for a couple months now, I bought it through amazon refurbished. (My girlfriend has the same device, she bought hers brand new. Her's is the international model though) Here's a listing of the charging cables, and chargers that I have:
Anker Quick Charge 3.0 and USB Type-C 24W USB Wall Charger http://amzn.to/2mitz3n
Anker A to C 6ft cable http://amzn.to/2lbw2HW
Anker 24W Dual Port Charger http://amzn.to/2mx16Tt
(I bought the a to c cable to be able to connect to pcs or whatever, and the charger i had for my Nexus 5 and other micro usb devices.
Standard Google Charger https://store.google.com/product/usb_type_c_18w_power_adapter
Obviously the middle item there doesn't charge at full speed, it isn't intended to. But my charge rate using any of those devices is still over all over the place within each of those items specifications. So it isn't likely that is a cable or charger issue which is normally the issue when someone has charging rate problems. yes i know the charging rate slows down as it reaches higher percentages to prevent over charging and other types of battery damage.
My phone can be down to 20% battery when I plug it in and it could start charging at 110mA or 2000mA+. Whatever rate it is though, it isn't going to stay that way for very long. If it starts low, then it might work its way up into the 700-900s slowly or to around 1000mA. If it starts up high 2000mA it'll likely start working its way down slowly into the 1000-1800mA range.
Sure charging at slower rates helps the battery to last longer, but when i have no control over this, and at times it discharges faster than it is even charging it is bad. I can actually deplete battery sometimes, if its charging while video chatting. Albeit very very very slowly, but still. The battery life and range seems to be very good aside from this charging issue. The connection port on the phone seems really quite solid as well and wiggling the cord doesn't seem to affect the charge rate as best as I can tell.
My girlfriends 5x charges in about half the time that mine does, or sometimes its even worse, i just have to pay attention to what it is doing when i plug it in. So my question is, is this a battery problem or is there something else going on with the phone? What is it that throttles the charge rate down as the battery % gets higher? Is there a chance this could be faulty and causing it to be all over the place like this? Any ideas about this would be very helpful thanks in advance.
Ps: I really do love the device, it works great, I have no issues with it beyond the charging rates that can be all over the place. I can go from 10% battery to 75% sometimes in half an hour or so. Then i get times where it takes well over an hour for that much.
(I use ampere to measure the charge rates)
Charge rate goes down with higher battery temperatures. Let the device cool down a bit before plugging in, also keep the screen off to allow it to charge at full speed.
The charge will also slows down as it fills up, the last 10% will take the longest.
bblzd said:
Charge rate goes down with higher battery temperatures. Let the device cool down a bit before plugging in, also keep the screen off to allow it to charge at full speed.
The charge will also slows down as it fills up, the last 10% will take the longest.
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I appreciate you taking the time to respond, since you are the only one thus far. But as I said I'm aware of the charging slowing down for those reasons, and I've got another device to compare to. It isn't the same, and the device isn't hot.
There is no problem with your battery. The phone is badly designed. Unfinished SoC combined with a small battery and a big screen. Your money is better spent on something else.
Sinistersky said:
There is no problem with your battery. The phone is badly designed. Unfinished SoC combined with a small battery and a big screen. Your money is better spent on something else.
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He's not talking about battery life. He's talking about charging times.
Personally, no issues with charging here. Always goes 15% to ~90% in 60 minutes with the stock charger.
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EeZeEpEe said:
He's not talking about battery life. He's talking about charging times.
Personally, no issues with charging here. Always goes 15% to ~90% in 60 minutes with the stock charger.
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"...So my question is, is this a battery problem or is there something else going on with the phone?"
Also, I have no problems charging it either.
Sinistersky said:
"...So my question is, is this a battery problem or is there something else going on with the phone?"
Also, I have no problems charging it either.
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Yet you talked about unfinished SoC and small battery. ? If anything, small battery would be charging faster.
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Sinistersky said:
"...So my question is, is this a battery problem or is there something else going on with the phone?"
Also, I have no problems charging it either.
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I don't have any issues with my battery discharge rate. For what it is, and what I use if for I'm happy with it. And from what I've read about the usages from others I think I have no issues there compared to others. I'm just referring to the charging rates, the way it charges
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Yet you talked about unfinished SoC and small battery. ? If anything, small battery would be charging faster.
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But due to an unfinished and rushed SoC, it doesn't charge faster. The charge rate of this device is limited to 40% of it's intended charge rate.
Sinistersky said:
Your money is better spent on something else.
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Fairly pointless comment considering I've got one already, it isn't me asking if I should buy one. Point taken though that you aren't happy with the device
ideaman924 said:
He says he already owns the device. No point in telling him how poor his purchase decision was. And it wasn't that poor of a decision considering how good it is. It stands up fairly well to my abuse and the small screen is OK to grip.
OK, a serious question:
1. Charging speed is affected by Charger (the thing that plugs into the wall), the Cable (how long or thick it is), and the Battery (how hot, how full it is). This is the basic, moving on.
2. Sometimes the C port is buggy and doesn't correctly detect the maximum amount that a cable+charger combo supports. Download Ampere or some other current measuring tool like GSam (although I never bother with GSam, Ampere is awesome), and make sure the max amperage is 3000 mAh. Anything lower than that means you have a low-powered charger, a less-than-optimal cable, or a hot or near-full battery. I recommend plugging it in at around 50% to make sure the near-full charge speed drop doesn't affect anything during your tests.
3. If that doesn't work, replace the battery. Final line advice.
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He's already using Ampere to measure and has 3 chargers to compare with.
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Anyone knows if is any way to disable fast charge?
Dont like fast charge since is worst for battery life.
For Battery Life is fine. This model dont have any fast charge or something similar. The charger included its fine and cant damage the battery.
Do not mix stanrdard fast charging (=being able to suck more than 1A from the charger) and QuickCharge (Qualcomm charging technology, involving e.g temporarily increase of charging voltage well above 5V and charging current well above 2A). A2 Lite is able to fast charge, just use Ampere or similar software and you see how much current it takes.
To the OP: I read that some custom kernels have this possibility, but no idea if any of few customs roms for our device has this capability. By using external software you can limit battery charge to e.g 80%, which would help a bit, or simply use one of old chargers, which could push around 500-700 mA max.
I'm using this magisk module: https://forum.xda-developers.com/apps/magisk/module-magic-charging-switch-cs-v2017-9-t3668427
Basically it helps to extend battery life by limiting the maximum charge, charging the phone slowly on certain range of battery level or when the battery reaches certain temperature.
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Anyone knows if is any way to disable fast charge?
Dont like fast charge since is worst for battery life.
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I wondered about this too. If you're not in a hurry (say, charging overnight) then maybe the slower charge will ensure optimum battery life.
I find that using a long (2M), cheap charging cable prevents fast charge!
That's understandable because the electrical resistance will be higher than a short/quality cable, so limits the charging current.
anzhaki said:
I'm using this magisk module: https://forum.xda-developers.com/apps/magisk/module-magic-charging-switch-cs-v2017-9-t3668427
Basically it helps to extend battery life by limiting the maximum charge, charging the phone slowly on certain range of battery level or when the battery reaches certain temperature.
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I use the root app " battery charge limit", i personally limit the battery charge to 80%.
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I use the root app " battery charge limit", i personally limit the battery charge to 80%.
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Accubaterry app does that without root. (i think)
About fastcharging with 5v2a i think that isn't so bad for battery. (battery on my phone doesnt even really warm up)
There were some problems, on my previous phone with quickcharge. (and phone was really hot after charging)
And battery was already almost 2years old. And with using quickcharger it got really bad battery in few months.
bedencic said:
Accubaterry app does that without root. (i think)
About fastcharging with 5v2a i think that isn't so bad for battery. (battery on my phone doesnt even really warm up)
There were some problems, on my previous phone with quickcharge. (and phone was really hot after charging)
And battery was already almost 2years old. And with using quickcharger it got really bad battery in few months.
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Accubattery only can warning you about the % charge, but still charging, to stop the charge needs root, since the control file is on system partition.