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[Q] Just un-rooted my EVO to apply 3.29 update... WHY ROOT NOW?

I feel bad but I just un-rooted my regaw_leinad rooted EVO using djR3Z method so I could apply the new update. I know there were other ways of doing it but it just seemed the more sensible way for a noob. I really wanted to root to get rid of that FPS cap anyways. I didn't do one single thing to my EVO while rooted besides download a screengrabber app that I didn't even use... I am still learning all about what is possible with root on Android, and until I find something totally mind blowing I think I'll keep stock.
Can anyone give me any reasons why I should have root besides custom roms??? I love the idea but not the headaches it gives me...
And, if custom roms are the big idea, what benefits will that give? Don't they run a little finicky anyways? Not all features are enabled, e.g. 4g?
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generalExpert said:
I feel bad but I just un-rooted my regaw_leinad rooted EVO using djR3Z method so I could apply the new update. I know there were other ways of doing it but it just seemed the more sensible way for a noob. I really wanted to root to get rid of that FPS cap anyways. I didn't do one single thing to my EVO while rooted besides download a screengrabber app that I didn't even use... I am still learning all about what is possible with root on Android, and until I find something totally mind blowing I think I'll keep stock.
Can anyone give me any reasons why I should have root besides custom roms??? I love the idea but not the headaches it gives me...
And, if custom roms are the big idea, what benefits will that give? Don't they run a little finicky anyways? Not all features are enabled, e.g. 4g?
Please list here.
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Custom ROMs are usually faster and have more features and customizations than the stock ROM. There are also tons of root-required apps that let you do crazy things to your phone like get free wireless hotspot, backup all of your apps with data and Market links, and change the apparent density of your display.

I'm somewhat of a noob and just made the switch.
WiFi tether
Remove some sprint apps
Custom boot animations
Like the above said, custom roms show a performance increase
Love the Quick Boot app
There are a bunch of threads around with more root apps you will most likely like.
Sent from my PC36100 using XDA App

General, the benefit is freedom. if you waited a litttle bit you would already be able to flash the exact same rom rooted which is readily available. http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=653
Good luck though.

Also, rooting takes like 2 seconds now that unrEVOked Forever is out.

A rooted phone nets you more options. There's no drawback to it. Why not?

generalExpert said:
I feel bad but I just un-rooted my regaw_leinad rooted EVO using djR3Z method so I could apply the new update. I know there were other ways of doing it but it just seemed the more sensible way for a noob. I really wanted to root to get rid of that FPS cap anyways. I didn't do one single thing to my EVO while rooted besides download a screengrabber app that I didn't even use... I am still learning all about what is possible with root on Android, and until I find something totally mind blowing I think I'll keep stock.
Can anyone give me any reasons why I should have root besides custom roms??? I love the idea but not the headaches it gives me...
And, if custom roms are the big idea, what benefits will that give? Don't they run a little finicky anyways? Not all features are enabled, e.g. 4g?
Please list here.
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Not everyone roots their phone - just the people here So, if you feel no need to root your phone, then don't.
I'm not a power user or speed freak so uncapping the fps isn't a big issue for me. I originally rooted my phone so I could use wireless tether. I'm staying rooted because I can play around with my phone a little more - change the boot animation (and turn off the sound), remove the Sprint apps that I don't use but that turn off automatically, and back up my apps and data and monitor my battery usage.
The custom roms are a quick way for me to accomplish my needs. I don't really like the Sense UI (which surprised me because I always though it was great-looking), so the roms give alternative ways to set up my phone.

Help with OTA
Hey guys. Okay I saw there is a update on xda. I'm using unrevoked3. Do I need to delete Unrevoked or just download the zip file that was released. I'm talking about about the deodexed and rooted.Im still lost on how where to put the updated file at? Please if anyone is in my boat and have had good results please tell me,im a noob,beginner,novice.
There is got to be someone who can explain in plain english lol..
Thanks everyone

Yes, I do feel crappy about it... I wish I was still rooted. I know the rooted update was available, but just thought that the OG update would run a bit better..?.. I guess I wanted to unroot to learn how among other things too. Believe it or not, doing that taught me a lot about hboot and recovery. At least I know I can always root again.
And YES, I HATE SENSE!!! But, I was reading on Cyanogen that CM6 had problems with the 4g and had a few bugs. But that vanilla android look is what I want!
Also, when non-rooted, is there no recovery? I clicked back into it just to check and it gave me a red exclamation mark over a phone...

TheBiles said:
Custom ROMs are usually faster and have more features and customizations than the stock ROM. There are also tons of root-required apps that let you do crazy things to your phone like get free wireless hotspot, backup all of your apps with data and Market links, and change the apparent density of your display.
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Hey, thanks for the info... But along with all of the "Customness" and features aren't there also, bugs that go along with it? Like random reboots, and battery issues, and some other stuff?
Yes I love hacking stuff and know that this is all part of the fun, but I think I just need to research a little more. If you can't tell already I'm kind of paranoid about screwing things up. I rooted and really wanted to flash CM6 but didn't have the balls to. Maybe in a month or so i'll redo it.

generalExpert said:
Hey, thanks for the info... But along with all of the "Customness" and features aren't there also, bugs that go along with it? Like random reboots, and battery issues, and some other stuff?
Yes I love hacking stuff and know that this is all part of the fun, but I think I just need to research a little more. If you can't tell already I'm kind of paranoid about screwing things up. I rooted and really wanted to flash CM6 but didn't have the balls to. Maybe in a month or so i'll redo it.
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Most of the custom ROMs are very stable and have better battery life than the stock ROM. As long as you make a nandroid backup there is ZERO risk to flashing a new ROM (assuming you don't like pull the battery out while flashing or something), so you can try one out for a few hours, and if you don't like it you can instantly go back to what you had before. Simple as pie. Give the major ones a whirl and see what you like. I know that there are some HTC ROMs themed to look like CM6 that have working 4G.

I also avoid cm6 because of the lack of 4g. Instead I use Vaelpak because it has minimal sense but enough so I can have my 4g. I'm thinking of trying Virus' mostly senseless rom.
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generalExpert said:
But that vanilla android look is what I want!
Also, when non-rooted, is there no recovery? I clicked back into it just to check and it gave me a red exclamation mark over a phone...
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When you mention the vanilla android look, what exactly are you referring to?
Is it the Vanilla theme and icons? -De-Odex roms would allow for custom themes that give the vanilla android look i.e. MrPuffin's Vanilla AOSP and Vanilla theme for Sense UI
Is it the android launcher? -Launcher Pro and ADW launcher are quite nice replacements to the Sense launcher
I'd think that if you didn't like the HTC Sense look, you would have kept root and just themed your phone to look Vanilla. Then again, it all comes down to what you believe provides the best user experience.
And regarding recovery, I believe Clockwork and Amon Ra require root.

mizzos4 said:
When you mention the vanilla android look, what exactly are you referring to?
Is it the Vanilla theme and icons? -De-Odex roms would allow for custom themes that give the vanilla android look i.e. MrPuffin's Vanilla AOSP and Vanilla theme for Sense UI
Is it the android launcher? -Launcher Pro and ADW launcher are quite nice replacements to the Sense launcher
I'd think that if you didn't like the HTC Sense look, you would have kept root and just themed your phone to look Vanilla. Then again, it all comes down to what you believe provides the best user experience.
And regarding recovery, I believe Clockwork and Amon Ra require root.
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Yes, by Vanilla Android i'm talkin Nexus One. Those themes look pretty good though. I'm already jonsen for root again and it's only been a half day.
Launcher Pro? Doesn't that just overlay Sense and therefore cause a bit of a slow down, use more memory, and possibly more battery. (probably not noticeable though..)
Yes, Clockwork and Amon_Ra require root. I was just wondering if there was a recovery in NON-ROOTED. When I'm in a non-rooted EVO at hboot, and select Recovery I get that red Exclamation mark over the phone and have to pull the battery.
Thanks for all your help!

Whoa thr new kernel allows up to 53 fps but std is 8+... on netarchys' kernel it was about 54 - 56 with a std of 4... at least that is how it behaves on mine.
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halorin said:
A rooted phone nets you more options. There's no drawback to it. Why not?
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there may be security drawbacks to those that are not cautious with the apps they install.
generalExpert said:
I feel bad but I just un-rooted my <EvO>.
I really wanted to root to get rid of that FPS cap anyways.
I didn't do one single thing to my EVO while rooted besides download a screengrabber app that I didn't even use
Can anyone give me any reasons why I should have root besides custom roms??? I love the idea but not the headaches it gives me...
And, if custom roms are the big idea, what benefits will that give? Don't they run a little finicky anyways? Not all features are enabled, e.g. 4g?
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- why feel bad?
- if the next statement is true, then the FPS cap must not have been an issue; else you would have done a google search on the issue and corrected it.
- if this statement is true, why feel bad?
- i dont find the need for so many custom ROMs (not like back when i was running on WinMo6). once you have 'root', adding/removing apps is straightforward and most of the ROMs are just a "here is my theme and apps, it's built on someone else who did the low level tweaking". custom ROM just makes it easier to get closer to what YOU want for an applist and themelayout. i like cm6 and dont' like theme's so life is easy for me.
- CM6 is AOSP. this means they will not use propriarty code (like Sense). for the EVO it also means the 4G radio software has to be written from scratch since there is no opensource 4G stuff to use yet. if you pick a Sense based rom (ie: anythign that doesn't refer to itself as CM6 or AOSP based).
Note: AOSP Like means that it is a Sense based ROM but it's been made to look/act similar to the CM6 or AOSP ROMs. 4G and Radio and such should work normally.
enjoy the free time associated with being Root-less.

Well, I'm re-rooted. Used the unrEVOked method. It was just so easy, there was no reason not to. Really want to get on cyanogen but waiting for the 4g.
sent from my bad-ass EVO!

is rooting worth??

well ive rooted my prev phone n caused it to brick n i cant think of any reasons to root dhd
app2sd - 2.2 already have them
roms - same as any app launcher in market(?)
getting 2.3 etc ealier - id rather wait fr official since i like htc sense anyway.
higher cpu - the phone is way fast enough for me... the 2.2.1 update improved the lag by alot.. i did not get any lag since update.
access to apps like screencast - maybe
removing apps that cannot be removed - i dont want to remove em
improved camera etc in roms - yet again 2.2.1 basically fixed every problem on this phone like low volume, bad camera, lag etc
Sent from my Desire HD using XDA App

kudoboi said:
well ive rooted my prev phone n caused it to brick n i cant think of any reasons to root dhd
app2sd - 2.2 already have them
roms - same as any app launcher in market(?)
getting 2.3 etc ealier - id rather wait fr official since i like htc sense anyway.
higher cpu - the phone is way fast enough for me... the 2.2.1 update improved the lag by alot.. i did not get any lag since update.
access to apps like screencast - maybe
removing apps that cannot be removed - i dont want to remove em
improved camera etc in roms - yet again 2.2.1 basically fixed every problem on this phone like low volume, bad camera, lag etc
Sent from my Desire HD using XDA App
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I recently also moved from HD2 to Desire HD and also don't see the reason for rooting.
I messed around with HD2 because I didn't like WM and I wanted Android.
Now that I have Android as a native OS I also really don't see the need for rooting. I belive that official updates are always way better than the unofficial ones (this ment with all due respect to all of the chefs out there that are trying their best) because unofficial ones have testing cycle that are way smaller and so new versions with fixes tend to come out at least once in a couple of days.
Maybe I'm not seeing the whole picture. If you think I'm also wrong, please say so.

If you're happy with your phone now then by all means leave it as it is. But as long as you follow instructions to the word, you're not going to brick your device.

qtype said:
I belive that official updates are always way better than the unofficial ones (this ment with all due respect to all of the chefs out there that are trying their best) because unofficial ones have testing cycle that are way smaller and so new versions with fixes tend to come out at least once in a couple of days.
Maybe I'm not seeing the whole picture. If you think I'm also wrong, please say so.
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I would have to say that the ROMs I have used (ARHD many versions and CM7 Rc1) that the testing cycle might be smaller but support is generally a lot better than with the official updates.
But in answer to your question is Rooting worth it, well that all depends on what you want from your phone tbh. If you want a customised ROM or the ability to move ALL apps in their entirety to your SD (this is a root only feature) a heavily improved battery life (in some circles) or stock android experience etc, then yea Root that bad boy and enjoy.
If however you are a standard user then it really is not worth it. I rooted mine as i wanted to eek out some extra battery and performance. It was worth it.

I'm new to rooting & flashing roms this week, had my dhd since oct last year & kept it legit until now.
Everything's gone fine for me - downgraded from official ota 2.2.1 (1.72.xxx.x) to 2.2 (1.32.xxx.x - PD98IMG.zip file) so i could root (didn't need goldcard, phone unlocked & unbranded from new)
I got a RUU just in case though.
Did the s-off & radio off thing (couldn't be any easier), put revolution rom on first, but didn't think much of it, so now i'm on CM7... loving it, but it's early days.
Still got to work out how to get the market back (google apps file needed i think).
Originally rooted so i could get my bluetooth keyboard working with my dhd, revolution made no difference, CM7 is looking promising.

kudoboi said:
well ive rooted my prev phone n caused it to brick n i cant think of any reasons to root dhd
app2sd - 2.2 already have them
roms - same as any app launcher in market(?)
getting 2.3 etc ealier - id rather wait fr official since i like htc sense anyway.
higher cpu - the phone is way fast enough for me... the 2.2.1 update improved the lag by alot.. i did not get any lag since update.
access to apps like screencast - maybe
removing apps that cannot be removed - i dont want to remove em
improved camera etc in roms - yet again 2.2.1 basically fixed every problem on this phone like low volume, bad camera, lag etc
Sent from my Desire HD using XDA App
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Hi!
Is root worth it?
Well. I can only speak for my self of course. Where I live, Google has not yet opened up for paid apps. It is possible to circumvent but, for me, the easiest solution requires root.
If I want to clarify a problem or a solution, e.g. at xda, it is nice to be able to add a screen dump. This is possible through Android SDK, but i haven't, as of yet, figured out how to do this. Anyway you need to be hooked up to a computer to do this which kind of negates the idea of posting from the phone. There's an app to do this as well but again, this requires root.
Living in a small arctic town the weather app hasn't got my location in the database. It is possible and quite easy to remedy this issue but - u guessed it - requires root.
I guess it comes down to personal preferences which, at least for me, has got a lot to do with where I live.
Can you get by without root? Good for you, best of luck etc.
I can't.
Regards Elo.
Sent from my Desire HD using XDA Premium App

Like it was pointed out, the main advantage are the custom ROMs or kernels. The apache 13 kernels have great performance.
If you don't plan on using them root isn't that needed though. On the other hand rooting is almost risk free with the new one click tools.

If you have to ask. Then no.
Personally, I'm not much for sense and I love to play around with different Roms, kernels, overclocking and all that.
I can only think of one thing worth rooting for if you're not going to flash, overclock and so on. And that is the fact one can remove those bloody ads with Adfree.

kudoboi said:
well ive rooted my prev phone n caused it to brick n i cant think of any reasons to root dhd
app2sd - 2.2 already have them
roms - same as any app launcher in market(?)
getting 2.3 etc ealier - id rather wait fr official since i like htc sense anyway.
higher cpu - the phone is way fast enough for me... the 2.2.1 update improved the lag by alot.. i did not get any lag since update.
access to apps like screencast - maybe
removing apps that cannot be removed - i dont want to remove em
improved camera etc in roms - yet again 2.2.1 basically fixed every problem on this phone like low volume, bad camera, lag etc
Sent from my Desire HD using XDA App
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Bottom Point: HUGE BATTERY LIFE IMPROVEMENT!!
You decide.

im in a urban area so i dont need root to unlock app market and hidden apps and paid apps.. im have 16 hrs a day n my phone is usually connected to the pc... so charging is not a problem fr me... n 2.2.1 did improve the battery by alot... i did nt touch the phone fr 7 hours and the battery only went down by 2%
Sent from my Desire HD using XDA App

If you are pleased with your DHD with sesnse don't. But you asking therfor i think you are courious. Read about it here in XDA and the different threads, collect information and when your couriosity gets to big you know where to find the info.

[Q] data roaming issue on Cool Droid v3 ROM

hi all
I finally decided to give some new life to my HTC Desire, rooted it, S-OFFed it as well and after long search for most suitable ROM for me, flashed Cool Droid v3 Bravo on it.
ROM looks great and works fine, but it has only one big issue (so far) - I cannot turn on data roaming, it is turned off by default and tweaked to stay that way. As a noob, obviously I cannot post this question in specific thread about that ROM: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1279016 so I have to ask here:
is there any fix for it, an advice or procedure how to change the script (I figured out that it's just a line in build.prop file but it doesn't allows me to change it). I'm not scared to tinker with it as long as it's not too complicated and makes sense.
I need it because I live in Europe, travel a lot and I use national roaming very often.
Please if anyone can help me, because this issue is a dealbreaker for me with this ROM and I'd hate that.
Thanks in advance
PS: the screenshot shows how the setting stays no matter what option I choose

Install a rom that hasnt got a lot of Verizon stuff in it.

I would, if I can find fast, stable and reliable ROM, based on GB and preferably with Sense on it.
I'm not into flashing new ROM every few days and trying out every custom ROM out there, I just need my phone to work well within its capabilities as I travel a lot and use it for work.
I guess that this data roaming issue shouldn't be too complicated to solve, it's a piece of cake for every developer...

NoobVulgaris said:
I would, if I can find fast, stable and reliable ROM, based on GB and preferably with Sense on it.
I'm not into flashing new ROM every few days and trying out every custom ROM out there, I just need my phone to work well within its capabilities as I travel a lot and use it for work.
I guess that this data roaming issue shouldn't be too complicated to solve, it's a piece of cake for every developer...
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Runnymede AIO v6.0.4.3 stable is probably as close as u will come.

hmm.. I'll check it out, thanks

colin_404 said:
Runnymede AIO v6.0.4.3 stable is probably as close as u will come.
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well, I flashed this rom and been testing it last few days. It has pretty much all that I need but I find it quite heavy on my device. Too many times it slows down, lags and freezes, especially when running games and apps that need syncing. Also, quite a lot FCs. Battery drain is also significant.
I'm not sure where exactly the problem is, it just gets stuck with black screen and only notification bar is visible.
Any advice where to look at? Might it be kernel, radio or CPU issue?
thanks

A tip for ya when flashing that rom. When u first install it from recovery and reboot, when it boots past bootanimation and gets to the lockring.... Leave it settle for 15-20 mins, dont unlock. Then after 15-20 mins unlock then reboot. Then no force close, sounds mad but its true. U could try a different kernal, Droidzone has a few good 1s for sense 3.5 roms and also in settings/RCMix tweaks, u can fix permissions there, try that, it sometimes fixes force close. Im using Aurora v6 special edition, its android 2.3.5 and sense 3 and not 1 problem so far, great rom infact. Saying that, Runnymede aio s.e is my personal favourite sense 3.5 and never had any problems with it, but letting it settle for 15-20 mins is a must.
About the radio.... What do u have? Lastest is recommended.
Sent from my non - JB HTC Desire

Runnymede AIO V6.0.4.3 SE is freezing
jmcclue said:
A tip for ya when flashing that rom. When u first install it from recovery and reboot, when it boots past bootanimation and gets to the lockring.... Leave it settle for 15-20 mins, dont unlock. Then after 15-20 mins unlock then reboot. Then no force close, sounds mad but its true. U could try a different kernal, Droidzone has a few good 1s for sense 3.5 roms and also in settings/RCMix tweaks, u can fix permissions there, try that, it sometimes fixes force close. Im using Aurora v6 special edition, its android 2.3.5 and sense 3 and not 1 problem so far, great rom infact. Saying that, Runnymede aio s.e is my personal favourite sense 3.5 and never had any problems with it, but letting it settle for 15-20 mins is a must.
About the radio.... What do u have? Lastest is recommended.
Sent from my non - JB HTC Desire
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I followed that flashing procedure pretty much, I was gentle and easy going right after flashing it, not rushing anything, left it to settle (maybe not 20 mins) and rebooted it again. Actually, FCs are not such a big issue like freezing. Usually 1fc comes on 5 freezes. My radio is 5.11.05.27, I haven't touched it since rooting the phone with Revolutionary. I kinda hesitate to flash it, I don't want to brick my device because I'm not sure about the right procedure.
As my name says, I'm just an ordinary noob, not too experienced with all this.
thanks

Did u do a full wipe before flashing.

Runnymede AIO V6.0.4.3 SE is freezing
colin_404 said:
Did u do a full wipe before flashing.
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I did a full wipe, formatting and partitioning SD card from the scratch (fat32 partition included), 4ext is 1GB... I did all following developer's recommended procedure step by step. SD card is brand new SanDisk 8 GB, class 6.
It works well after reboot, but after a while, as soon as several apps are opened, it lags and hangs heavily, making the phone unusable.
I'm not sure does it matter, but I moved all movable apps to "phone storage", except those that have widgets that I use. Yet, the phone still freezes even when using non-movable apps.
I'd flash it again right now but I get messed up contacts list every time because not all my contacts are on google and I have 1000+ in total, so after every restore I get many duplicates and triplicates, so I'd really like a solution that doesn't include another flashing.

Here is a better tip. Don't use sense 3+ if you want reliability. I recommend cool bravo s, but change the kernel.

cronus101 said:
Here is a better tip. Don't use sense 3+ if you want reliability. I recommend cool bravo s, but change the kernel.
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Iv no problems at all, using sense 3.0 right now, 1 of the best roms iv ever used.
Sent from my non - JB HTC Desire

jmcclue said:
Iv no problems at all, using sense 3.0 right now, 1 of the best roms iv ever used.
Sent from my non - JB HTC Desire
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So your telling me that you have no fcs, no lags, especially when receiving a call, no battery drains? Do you use your phone? I'm not trying to be rude or anything, I really want to know, because every sense 3+ rom I had wasn't 100%. Which rom are you using right now?

Runnymede AIO V6.0.4.3 SE is freezing
cronus101 said:
So your telling me that you have no fcs, no lags, especially when receiving a call, no battery drains? Do you use your phone? I'm not trying to be rude or anything, I really want to know, because every sense 3+ rom I had wasn't 100%. Which rom are you using right now?
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I'd like to stick with this rom.. I do have lags but not when receiving a call, that's why I suppose that I just have to do some detailed tweaking and that's where I need help as I'm not experienced with it. FCs are actually not so bad, pretty much the same as I had them on my stock froyo so I can live with that. Battery drain is there though, but I've been using the phone intensively since flashing RM AIO, trying to set it up.
Can maybe someone post here proper radio/kernel/CPU settings please?
My device is amoled version, with 5.11.05.27 radio and 2.6.35.10 [email protected] #11 kernel
CPU settings are untouched after flashing the rom, so they are "default".
thanks

cronus101 said:
So your telling me that you have no fcs, no lags, especially when receiving a call, no battery drains? Do you use your phone? I'm not trying to be rude or anything, I really want to know, because every sense 3+ rom I had wasn't 100%. Which rom are you using right now?
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Aurora v6 special edition. No lag, no fc, battery is great, obviously its not as good as AOSP. And yes i use my phone, im using it now writing this
Sent from my non - JB HTC Desire

jmcclue said:
Aurora v6 special edition. No lag, no fc, battery is great, obviously its not as good as AOSP. And yes i use my phone, im using it now writing this
Sent from my non - JB HTC Desire
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How long have you been using it?
Sent from my HTC ONE X

cronus101 said:
How long have you been using it?
Sent from my HTC ONE X
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Lol not long but plan on sticking with it. Im using a Droidzone kernal, OC set to min 245 and max 998 Smartassv2 and cpu set to the same with ondemand. Like i dont play games on my phone, i just use it for phone calls msgs and internet (usuall stuff) i charged it to 100% yesterday and iv now still 53% which is pretty good going.
Sent from my non - JB HTC Desire

[Q] Newb at Android - CM10 yes or no?

Hello!
I have HTC One V PrimoU. I'm newb for that. Leave PC, there... And also there, I'm not in Linux... So, just to explain:
I used "HTC One V All-In-One Toolkit V1.2 [10-8-2012] [PERM ROOT] [Noob-Proof]", flashing recovery with TWRP 2.3.1.0 and Kernel with 3.0.16-Titanium-Kiss.
Happy with my new rooted device, I put on some root apps, that were suggested on page: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1907885&highlight=app+for+root
So far, so good. I'm more that happy OK, I disabled HTC Sense with Titanium, but I also managed to restore phone back, so, no real harm done... Yes, I'm still learning - well, also, I couldn't find the list of HTC One V apps that you MUST leave alone... Searched all the net, found some on XDA, some on other sites, but - for newb (or noob) like me, it would be helpful...
But, somewhere, in the back of my head is still a question: Shoud I go for CM10? And if yes, why? - I read all thread of CM10, but still, what will I gain? For sure, CM10 will not turn my proc into quad ;-D Also, is there a valid reason why our phone will not get Jelly Bean officially? Forget ram, it's excuse for what?
However, I'd like to hear from you. I don't need much, gimme one reason to go there and I'll be there...
Appreciate all your answers, + and - , just keep smiling...
Best regards, Mat

Oh, forgot the most important...
THANK YOU!!!
For all that made tutorials which I followed to root my device... YOU'RE THE BEST!!!
And I'm more than happy when my phone, during the boot, tells me, in that red letters, that I won...
Best regards to all, Mat

I'm not an expert but I DO find some reasons to switch into CM10:
1) butter project really makes Jelly Bean fast and smooth
2) no lags anymore
3) more optimization options
4) smoother switching between apps
5) nicer lockscreen
However, there are some drawbacks that should be taken into consideration:
1) camera - poorer quality, occasional accidental killings, no more stock options, the graphical processor on HOV wastes..
2) battery drain - but not much of a problem, you can use e.g. Juice Defender to block the consumption
3) some other minor bugs

THANKS!!!
meehow81 said:
I'm not an expert but I DO find some reasons to switch into CM10:
1) butter project really makes Jelly Bean fast and smooth
2) no lags anymore
3) more optimization options
4) smoother switching between apps
5) nicer lockscreen
However, there are some drawbacks that should be taken into consideration:
1) camera - poorer quality, occasional accidental killings, no more stock options, the graphical processor on HOV wastes..
2) battery drain - but not much of a problem, you can use e.g. Juice Defender to block the consumption
3) some other minor bugs
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Thank you - I needed just that - But, for the sake, waiting (not even thinking that you don't know all) for some "god" to tell me the same and I'll go for CM10...
Best regards, Mat

i see u used my guide, m honored
dude see i wud recomend u cm10 cause in sense the RAM usage is more unless u have desensed
and its personal opinion cause some peole like the sense UI and some like the AOSP/CM10/AOKP UI now i hate sense, its just sad(no offence)
i wud say u try out differeent ROMS i settled for PA now and i would say if u have problems check this out
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1996665

THANKS!!!
cybervibin said:
i see u used my guide, m honored
dude see i wud recomend u cm10 cause in sense the RAM usage is more unless u have desensed
and its personal opinion cause some peole like the sense UI and some like the AOSP/CM10/AOKP UI now i hate sense, its just sad(no offence)
i wud say u try out differeent ROMS i settled for PA now and i would say if u have problems check this out
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1996665
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That's was what I was waiting for...
I'll go for it, no doubt
Thank you very much again, as your guide is really THE ONE to follow...
If you'll have a chance to be nearby, I owe you a sixpack or two...
Best regards, Mat

cybervibin said:
i see u used my guide, m honored
dude see i wud recomend u cm10 cause in sense the RAM usage is more unless u have desensed
and its personal opinion cause some peole like the sense UI and some like the AOSP/CM10/AOKP UI now i hate sense, its just sad(no offence)
i wud say u try out differeent ROMS i settled for PA now and i would say if u have problems check this out
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1996665
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Well, I am not offended but Sense seems objectively a bit old-fashioned in comparison to pure ICS or JB.. And what is more, it's slower..
Greetings,
Mike

bratusm said:
That's was what I was waiting for...
I'll go for it, no doubt
Thank you very much again, as your guide is really THE ONE to follow...
If you'll have a chance to be nearby, I owe you a sixpack or two...
Best regards, Mat
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haha! sure mate

My S2 is slower than my Sister's S2???

Hey Guys recently i got the S2 white on Tmobile for free and it came with the 4.0.4 ICS Firmware and ive notice that my phone is kind of slow comparing it to my sister's S2 wich is black and its on the 2.3.6 Firmware. I dont know if its the phone with a problem or if its the 4.0.4 firmware causing that my phone is slower than hers. Anyone that can tell me something about this??? Another thing is that she got her S2 when they first came out on Tmobile and i got mine just a couple a days ago, so for me it doesnt make any sense that my phone is slower and laggs a lot.

You sure you don't have anything running in the background, or is it just laggy without anything installed on it? Might be because of some background apps that you do not know of

Koragg618 said:
You sure you don't have anything running in the background, or is it just laggy without anything installed on it? Might be because of some background apps that you do not know of
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I dont think is that because i only have a few apps and im always doing the task mannager clean up, so i did a couple of tests with both like entering to the contacts,phone,txt,apps,browser etc and my phone was always a little slower than hers in every area. And when im scrolling the app list my phone is slower and laggy and hers fast and smooth. So i dont know im thinking about doing a downgrade to 2.3.6 since i dont see a great difference on the OS, to see if my phone works better that way, im waiting for the jelly bean update so i can enjoy my phone more. I dont know what do you think i should do?

daworship said:
I dont think is that because i only have a few apps and im always doing the task mannager clean up, so i did a couple of tests with both like entering to the contacts,phone,txt,apps,browser etc and my phone was always a little slower than hers in every area. And when im scrolling the app list my phone is slower and laggy and hers fast and smooth. So i dont know im thinking about doing a downgrade to 2.3.6 since i dont see a great difference on the OS, to see if my phone works better that way, im waiting for the jelly bean update so i can enjoy my phone more. I dont know what do you think i should do?
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well if ur gonna downgrade try a custom ROM first. That's guaranteed to solve our issues :good:

icenight89 said:
well if ur gonna downgrade try a custom ROM first. That's guaranteed to solve our issues :good:
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ok thanks i will do that.

daworship said:
I dont think is that because i only have a few apps and im always doing the task mannager clean up, so i did a couple of tests with both like entering to the contacts,phone,txt,apps,browser etc and my phone was always a little slower than hers in every area. And when im scrolling the app list my phone is slower and laggy and hers fast and smooth. So i dont know im thinking about doing a downgrade to 2.3.6 since i dont see a great difference on the OS, to see if my phone works better that way, im waiting for the jelly bean update so i can enjoy my phone more. I dont know what do you think i should do?
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I agree with icenight89 - why downgrade when you can use a custom ROM/kernel with more control over the performance of your phone? Many kernels have loads of governors to choose from that optimize what stock ROMs use, depending on if you're going for more performance or for more battery life (or some combination of the two). The KKO kernel has a lot of governors, or you can check out this new one based off KKO (keep in mind it's only for JB roms): http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2111871

Generall, Task Killers aren't really that effective and invite FC's. You best bet is to root, remove bloat, and try some tweaks. Otherwise, like me, resort to Custom ROMs/Kernels. Take a peek at the Android Development Section and be prepared to be amazed at the plethora of choices you will encounter. While some focus on performance, others focus on better battery. It's all about trying out what's there and choose one of your liking. Good Luck. Let me know if you would like some recommendations.