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help me pick a rom

Wassup everyone im fairly new to this forum but before posting i have been looking around for an answer to my question but no luck...im looking for a rom that has all the features of sense,like facebook contact sync for instance i want something that gives me all the features of sense n more without sacrificing certain factors jst for the sake of performance...

ochuni3 said:
Wassup everyone im fairly new to this forum but before posting i have been looking around for an answer to my question but no luck...im looking for a rom that has all the features of sense,like facebook contact sync for instance i want something that gives me all the features of sense n more without sacrificing certain factors jst for the sake of performance...
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That's pretty much why I just use a rooted version of the stock rom.

Yeah, right now im using the stock rom with netarchy kernal

Im a huge fan of the Damage Control and Fresh ROMs. Im a bigger fan of the Fresh ROM and am currently running his 0.5.3 version. Anything that has been removed by the developer you can always re add to make it your own.

I'm using Damage Control right now, but it gets the boot as soon as CyanogenMod is released.
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Hey guys, could you either describe or post links to threads describing some of the roms that you're bringing up?
I mainly rooted my phone to customize the hell out of it, but now I'm interested in things liek overclocking it, and using less battery without losing use of my camera and camcorder.

Ok ok so which would be the closest to the features that sense offers by the way on those roms can u use sense widgets

if you really really like sense and do not want to get rid of it you don't have to. the ROMs like Fresh and DC uninstall only parts of Sense...and they put those parts in a folder. if you to add something back like FriendStream or FMRadio for example, then you just double click it to reinstall it.
from your two posts, i'd say use Fresh 1.0.1 or stay with your clean rooted rom. it's ok either way...the nifty thing about getting full root w/ NAND is that you can create an 'image' of you EVO. then load up the DC ROM or the Beast ROM...if you don't like it, revert back to your image and away you go. figure about 5min to create or restore from an image.
install something like adw.launcher or launcherpro and then you can actually see what breaks when your not using sense. (it is very easy, simple and non destructive to flip flop which 'application launcher' you use)
Fresh - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=726090
I think Fresh may be a bit more conservative in his work than the DC team. HTC Sense will still be available on both once you are rooted and booted. it won't be until you install/use an alternate launcher that Sense widgets have issue. if you continue to use Sense then you can reinstall those component very easily.
i would suggest that you spend more time reading the Development thread. the answers ARE all here...unfortunately, threads like this one add to the overall chaos on the site. but its ok...search tools are your friend.
TJDuckett - read up on DamageControl and Fresh. Toast and Netarchy have custom kernels available. CM6 will be out soon, you will probably want to read up on it as well. use the xda search or google ( add site:xda-developers.com to your queries). good luck and enjoy.

Oh wow that's alot of good info thanks alot, i try to do as much research as possible before i post anything... one last question n i think i'll be good to go. When i did the nandroid backup image (i have clockwork recovery) that image when loaded is a full restore of how i had it when the image was created

ochuni3 said:
Oh wow that's alot of good info thanks alot, i try to do as much research as possible before i post anything... one last question n i think i'll be good to go. When i did the nandroid backup image (i have clockwork recovery) that image when loaded is a full restore of how i had it when the image was created
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at 6:50pm check out the FrEak E Evo Rom...its being uploaded as i type this and has what you're looking for...

Yay 4 Juggs said:
at 6:50pm check out the FrEak E Evo Rom...its being uploaded as i type this and has what you're looking for...
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I have a question about the flash 10.1 that's included... is it ACTUAL full flash, or is it the one that I read about on here (in the NO FROYO NEEDED! thread), that's pretty much bunk?
If it's actual, full flash, then is it one that I can just add onto what I have now?
Because, I'm running rooted 1.47.651.1 with damned near the exact same, custom theme, and don't really see the difference between what I've got and what's listed on this rom.
... definitely not trying to put down anyone's efforts, and in fact I'm asking, because it's so similar to what I'm running that it may be what I go for if it has something enticing.

[Q] stock htc sense browser on cyanogenmod 6

Is there any way to add the stock HTC sense browser cyanogenmod. There is certain files that the android browser wont download. I love cyanogen but if I can't resolve this issue I have to go back to sense

This is going to sound cliche but READ the OP on the Cyanogen Thread!!!!
No Sense AT ALL.
A lot of the Sense goodies are based on a framework, consider this architecture of the software, that is Sense.
Therefore, you're asking to get Sense on Cyanogen Mod and he explicitly states that he will not touch sense.
Cyanogen Mod is built off of AOSP Android Open Source Project
Sense = HTC Software which is NOT Open Source. (not to be @#!$ed with).
**Have you tried other browsers from teh Market to see if they work on what you need to download?
Let me know if you have questions later.

I did read the op in the thread and understood that. My question was could I, me, myself install it afterwards, is it even possible? Yeah I tried dolphin browser but still no go. I've gone back to sense until I find a solution.
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[Q] THE GREAT ROM DEBATE or THE QUEST FOR THE PERFECT ROM!

I have been going back and forth with roms and wondering some things myself.
I like the speed and system memory available with the A2SD of the AOSP roms (oxygen) but need my video camera so the gingerbread thing is out till they sort that out and Im finding I like the sense roms.
Anyone have any experience with the stock roms? Are there any sense stock roms with very little of the garbage apps that come with most sense roms but still have A2SD? I guess Im looking for the best of both worlds here.....

There are froyo AOSP roms so no sense and a working video recorder, you can also strip Sense roms from the stuff you don't want, just make sure it's not a critical part.
But if you want a Sense rom I suggest you use Leedroid with A2SD and don't worry about space or removing sense apps.

Leedroid is my 1st rom, then i tried defrost, open desire, gingervillain, Oxygen, they all give me bugs, as for other sense rom, i've tried AuraTSense & Modaco, not tat perfect for me, as for Sense HD rom, don't try it, they're not mend for Desire... lastly i go back to Leedroid, now it's 23d already, and it's smooth, bug free... i just hope tat i know how to take out those stuff that i don't need inside... I really wanted to have a smooth non sense rom, but non of them is better than leedroid...

felix1318 said:
Leedroid is my 1st rom, then i tried defrost, open desire, gingervillain, Oxygen, they all give me bugs, as for other sense rom, i've tried AuraTSense & Modaco, not tat perfect for me, as for Sense HD rom, don't try it, they're not mend for Desire... lastly i go back to Leedroid, now it's 23d already, and it's smooth, bug free... i just hope tat i know how to take out those stuff that i don't need inside... I really wanted to have a smooth non sense rom, but non of them is better than leedroid...
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I use Baadnewz' HD rom it's pretty fast and stable (as fast and stable as leedroid's in fact) and you get the sense 2.0 goodness too. I was on Leedroid for a long time but wouldn't go back to old sense anymore.

thx for the info, i think i'm gonna give it a try...

hmmmm
I'm running Leedroid right now and start up is quite laggy and my phone is not very responsive. I just s-offed my phone so I'll see what I can do with it now.
I tried Baadnewz but can't remember why I didnt like it. lol
The HD roms seem to give me bugs.
I have been debating making my own rom, a sort of Frankenstein rom, with bits and pieces of all the things I like from other roms. The main problem I'm having is finding a tutorial on making roms. I have searched but found nothing...

godutch said:
I use Baadnewz' HD rom it's pretty fast and stable (as fast and stable as leedroid's in fact) and you get the sense 2.0 goodness too. I was on Leedroid for a long time but wouldn't go back to old sense anymore.
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i prefer the hd roms also , had no problems with them.
regards

I get lags if I don't do a full wipe or use titanium backup to restore old system settings with any rom. Once you are on a certain rom you can usually just upgrade without a full wipe.

Tried Baadnewz' HD rom, not that responsive... sometimes need press 2-3 times to screen on... going back to leedroid... ><

felix1318 said:
Leedroid is my 1st rom, then i tried defrost, open desire, gingervillain, Oxygen, they all give me bugs, as for other sense rom, i've tried AuraTSense & Modaco, not tat perfect for me, as for Sense HD rom, don't try it, they're not mend for Desire... lastly i go back to Leedroid, now it's 23d already, and it's smooth, bug free... i just hope tat i know how to take out those stuff that i don't need inside... I really wanted to have a smooth non sense rom, but non of them is better than leedroid...
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To take out the unnecessary stuff search LeeDroid's minisite - there is a great tutorial, how to remove stuff you don't need.
Also you can delete the not needed .apks from the .zip file on your PC and after that you can flash it.
Also tried a few ROMs (including gingervillain, Oxygen), but using LD, cause it is the best for me.

nagypapi said:
To take out the unnecessary stuff search LeeDroid's minisite - there is a great tutorial, how to remove stuff you don't need.
Also you can delete the not needed .apks from the .zip file on your PC and after that you can flash it.
Also tried a few ROMs (including gingervillain, Oxygen), but using LD, cause it is the best for me.
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oic... thx for the info... gonna read it...

can i just delete the apk in my rom zip file before i flash?

felix1318 said:
can i just delete the apk in my rom zip file before i flash?
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I deleted 2 apps (cifsManager & DefaultclearHome) and it was working without any problems so far.
I don't know about other .apks, but in that case i recommend the tutorial shown here:
http://leedroid.protogenlabs.com/wiki/guidelines-for-safe-removal-of-included-apps-apks
However, there is written, than you can just simply delete from the .zip file.

Do we have a poll /or can we have one for best ROM available for Desire ? .
Just wanted to know whats the most used ROM on the forum .

Customs Roms

Im not a noob with rooting and different roms and stuff. But is there anyway to take parts of roms and combine them and make a personalized custom rom with everything you want on it? like for example can i take the mms.apk from a sense 3.0 rom and put in on the CM7 rom or an ultimate droid rom?

Definitely possible, .apk's should be easy to transfer over.
This is off the top of my head, but you should be able to extract the ROM .zip file, find the .apk you want, then just put it on your SD card and run it using a file manager or terminal emulator (harder to use).
As always I would suggest you fully backup, when you're doing stuff like this it's experimental, so it's very possible the mms.apk will not play well with your current ROM and may force close. If that's the case, it may need other files to run (those files would be in the original ROM) and that would become a project that I wouldn't be able to help you with. You would then need to really, merge those two ROM's together in order to get that .apk to work.
Even so, I'm not sure on how possible it is as some manufacturers like HTC make it extremely difficult to use their app's without having an HTC Sense ROM.

Yea i tried that with root explorer and it didnt work the apk wouldnt install im now guessing thats because it was a sense app and isnt compatible with my rom. But yea i was looking into finding out how to combine roms more in depth like that. but i guess thats out of both our leagues. thanks for the help though

Take a Sense 2.1/3.0 hybrid ROM and run the Senseless script, use search to find it. See if that works for Sense 3.0 Messaging on AOSP feel

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Take a Sense 2.1/3.0 hybrid ROM and run the Senseless script, use search to find it. See if that works for Sense 3.0 Messaging on AOSP feel
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I wrote a desensitize script for SkyRaider 4 (Sense 1.0) found here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=13667433&postcount=8499
I have NOT tried it on a sense 2.1/3.0 rom, but it will work as long as the file names are the same. Do a nandroid backup before you try it though, just in case!

tsew03 said:
Im not a noob with rooting and different roms and stuff. But is there anyway to take parts of roms and combine them and make a personalized custom rom with everything you want on it? like for example can i take the mms.apk from a sense 3.0 rom and put in on the CM7 rom or an ultimate droid rom?
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Sense MMS apks will definitely not work on CM7 because it needs dependencies from the HTC frameworks, I would try what others have suggested and try to get a Sense rom and in other words "DeSense" it by removing some of the HTC apps. You can also try running CM7 and installing a 3rd party SMS app from the Market (like GO SMS Pro) if you are not happy with the Stock Android SMS app.

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Sense MMS apks will definitely not work on CM7 because it needs dependencies from the HTC frameworks, I would try what others have suggested and try to get a Sense rom and in other words "DeSense" it by removing some of the HTC apps. You can also try running CM7 and installing a 3rd party SMS app from the Market (like GO SMS Pro) if you are not happy with the Stock Android SMS app.
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Took the words right out of my mouth lol
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ok is there a way i can desensitize the rom on my computer or i have to do it on my phone? and now my next question more into how to combine roms is say for example i like the sense 3.0 unlock screen is there anyway that i could use that as my unlock screen but then keep my ultimate droid rom the way it normally is?

Not sure about desensitizing but I do know you cannot use a sense 3.0 lockscreen on an aosp rom. Although if you're wanting a fancy lockscreen, I'd recommend MIUI, or widgetlocker (works on any rom).

Mod specific

Hi, i know we have a lot of mods for various roms like runny and arhd, my question is..can we use these mods on other roms that use the same sense etc,
I only ask because i know its luck of the draw if they do,for example i downloaded an ics theme for runny that was for another rom, the original theme seemed to leaved when even a small change was done in rctweaks, with this ics theme, the theme remains and is sweet..
Basically a long winded way..
Do the mods work on other roms because of the sense version,asop etc
or is it specific to the framework as i know when you use the kitchen it is based on that
Thanks in advance,probably is a stupid question yes

I don't work on any ROM's. Other than for me.
Rule of thumb
Sense specific mods won't work on AOSP/CM7.
CM7/AOSP specific mods won't work on Sense.
Backup & Flash, the only way for sure to know.

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Hi andy,yep i understand you cant mod cm to sense and vice versa etc, but i mean
for example,ive got a theme for runny...but im running virtuious,both running sense 3.5.
some work for each other and some dont?
just curious to why

There could be a million & 1 reasons.
Framework differences, Sense version, kernel, installed system apps. The list could go on.
Your best bet is to make a backup, flash/apply the mod and see if it works. If not, restore.

Lol I use that method a lot, ill keep doing so
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