Hello,
I have gmail and skype in running aplications and when i do force stop , but later they appears again , I dont turn them on, but those programs appears in running aplications(not services) . How to close those programs that apps dont turn on whenever they want
Gmail is alaways running, how to close it ?
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No need to close an app, because later u will have to START it AGAIN (this will consume cpu and battery)..so why u want to close it?
Lets stay it in background, it does't use cpu and doesn't drain battery and in this way the app is ready for the next use!
Gmail is always running, and appears again also if u stop it, because it have to sync ur mails and have the permissions to start at phone boot.
Tip: uninstall skype, is still a bad app in my opinion
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No need to close an app, because later u will have to START it AGAIN (this will consume cpu and battery)..so why u want to close it?
Lets stay it in background, it does't use cpu and doesn't drain battery and in this way the app is ready for the next use!
Gmail is always running, and appears again also if u stop it, because it have to sync ur mails and have the permissions to start at phone boot.
Tip: uninstall skype, is still a bad app in my opinion
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Pretty much spot on.
Closing applications is not necessary, ever. If you stop killing applications you won't have FCs all the time. Get rid off your task-killer.
Is this possible to adjust gmail that it sync. with my mail just when i need, not always ?
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Hi,
We all knew that we should not use task killer to kill apps, because when we hit the back button, the app will not active anymore ... but it will still occupy some memory (RAM).
When Android OS needs more RAM it will remove in-active apps to free some.
Related article: http://geekfor.me/faq/you-shouldnt-be-using-a-task-killer-with-android/ (GOOD READ)
We should not panic when we see a huge list of apps when we start task killer.
Ok, got it there ...
Now, I installed this app called Quick System Info (FREE):
http://www.cyrket.com/p/android/org.uguess.android.sysinfo/
Which you can use to see what kind of processes are still running or apps that are still occupying RAM. It could show you the amount of RAM and CPU resources that are being used by each app.
So, I went to the Quick System Info -> Processes, hit the "menu" button -> Preferences and set like this:
- Update Speed = Low
- Show Memory Usage [checked]
- Show CPU Usage [checked]
- Sort by = CPU Usage
- Direction = Descending
Go back and watch ...
Surprisingly, I saw "Market" app is eating 1% CPU resources once in a while ... again and again ...
Hey, I thought it (Market app) is suspended in the background? I don't have it active, I pressed the back button when I finished with it.
Why is it eating 1% CPU from now an then in the background?
Obviously, this will drain battery power for something that I don't need.
Any thought?
I am now wondering if I install other kind of process monitoring app, and see if the suspended Quick System Info is also eating CPU resources
Why should we not use task killers? I`ve used them on android for the last year otherwise like you say background tasks use resources slowing up the system.
Obviously dont close any system important apps but I`m always closing down background apps that I no longer require.
1% every now and again? I really wouldn't worry about that to be perfectly honest. The impact on battery life will be incredibly small, so much so I doubt you'd even notice if you weren't watching it like a hawk.
By far the biggest drain on battery life remains all of the wireless stuff (wifi, bluetooth and 3G internet) followed closely by the screen itself. Turn those off when not in use and the miniscule drain of suspended tasks won't be an issue.
I'm sure if Google thought suspended tasks would be an important factor in battery drain they would've designed it differently to start with.
Read this article
http://geekfor.me/faq/you-shouldnt-be-using-a-task-killer-with-android/
paulruk said:
Why should we not use task killers? I`ve used them on android for the last year otherwise like you say background tasks use resources slowing up the system.
Obviously dont close any system important apps but I`m always closing down background apps that I no longer require.
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It does every minute or so, and so far I found only this app (Market).
I just found out this morning before went to work, so I don't have time to inspect more.
Too bad I cannot see CPU TIME (the amount of time the process took 100% of cpu resources).
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1% every now and again? I really wouldn't worry about that to be perfectly honest. The impact on battery life will be incredibly small, so much so I doubt you'd even notice if you weren't watching it like a hawk.
By far the biggest drain on battery life remains all of the wireless stuff (wifi, bluetooth and 3G internet) followed closely by the screen itself. Turn those off when not in use and the miniscule drain of suspended tasks won't be an issue.
I'm sure if Google thought suspended tasks would be an important factor in battery drain they would've designed it differently to start with.
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that 1% would be it occasionally checking in with the market to see if any updates have been released for the programs you have installed, so that it can give you a notification when the update is released.
i would imagine that is what it is anyway.
and yes, 1% every so often is negligible, and if you killed just that process, i doubt you would notice any difference.
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Surprisingly, I saw "Market" app is eating 1% CPU resources once in a while ... again and again ...
Hey, I thought it (Market app) is suspended in the background? I don't have it active, I pressed the back button when I finished with it.
Why is it eating 1% CPU from now an then in the background?
Obviously, this will drain battery power for something that I don't need.
Any thought?
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I am not sure about this..
Have you noticed that you will get a notification if there is an update to application that is installed in your phone?
I think the marketplace doesn't have a push notification yet. So it periodically will check whether there is any update to the installed application.
Allright, that might be it ... the Market is checking for apps aupdate.
And most probably 1% is not much (I don't know how to measure this and translate it to battery life time). 1% every minute ... hmmm
1 hour of 1% cpu per minute = X % of battery life.
If we have N processes?
N = email check, weather check, friendstream check, RSS check, whatnot check
I`ll give you an example why I use a task killer.
Sometimes I use an app that goes online every few minutes and notifies me of any updates. I can 100% be certain this app even when in the background uses enough cpu to cause the phone to slowdown. Dont ask me why, maybe bad programming but this is the exact reason why I need a task killer to get rid of it.
Once its gone the phone is fine again. it happends on a few apps I own, so when I finish with them, I kill them.
I wouldnt recommend a task killer that kills everything, you just need to be selective.
That is a perfect example for using task killer
What I wrote in the first post is about using task killer to just kill apps without knowing anything.
In the past, I just select all and KILL ... Then the HTC Sense got reloaded
I was scared it could corrupt my phone ... lol.
paulruk said:
I`ll give you an example why I use a task killer.
Sometimes I use an app that goes online every few minutes and notifies me of any updates. I can 100% be certain this app even when in the background uses enough cpu to cause the phone to slowdown. Dont ask me why, maybe bad programming but this is the exact reason why I need a task killer to get rid of it.
Once its gone the phone is fine again. it happends on a few apps I own, so when I finish with them, I kill them.
I wouldnt recommend a task killer that kills everything, you just need to be selective.
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Yes thats a bit extreme killing everything.
I`ve also used startup auditor in the past. That stops some apps loading at startup , for example footprints, never use it so I kill it before it gets a chance to load up. Have to be careful what you limit though as some tasks are used by others.
That Startup Auditor is interesting, does it work as expected?
Or you encountered some quirks or issues with it?
Yeah, I don't quite like with the way Android startup (or HTC?), for example: FM radio ... it also started automatically after reboot.
paulruk said:
Yes thats a bit extreme killing everything.
I`ve also used startup auditor in the past. That stops some apps loading at startup , for example footprints, never use it so I kill it before it gets a chance to load up. Have to be careful what you limit though as some tasks are used by others.
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That Startup Auditor is interesting, does it work as expected?
Or you encountered some quirks or issues with it?
Yeah, I don't quite like with the way Android startup (or HTC?), for example: FM radio ... it also started automatically after reboot.
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Seems to work fine, not sure what help it is though hehe, in terms of speed/memory savings. I stop the radio , bluetooth,google talk and footprints. But I also use it to start some apps automatically.
I found this list of what you can/can`t disable. You can still run them after startup, just they wont load automatically when you start the phone.
safe
Google Partner Setup
Network Location (if not using apps which need geolocation regularly. ie. Gmaps, GeoTag, etc.)
Bluetooth Share (if not using BT device)
Email (if not using email service other than Gmail)
Messaging (if using 3rd party sms app, ie. Handcent SMS. or if infrequent texter)
Calendar (if calendar is not used regularly)
Calendar Storage (if calendar is not used regularly)
Voice Dialer (if not used)
Google Talk Service (if GTalk is not used regularly)
Maps (if GMaps is not used regularly)
unsafe
Clock
Media Storage
Android System
Gmail Storage
Sync Feeds
Dialer
System Updater (not sure about this one)
My Uploads (not sure about this one)
Download Manager (not sure about this one)
Hi,
Is there a way to obtain Android OS logs?
Things like shutdown log (turn off) ... I want to know what happen during shutdown, because most of the time, my phone cannot be turned off ...
I must pull out the battery.
This only happen after I use the phone for longer hours.
And no, I dont use task killer at all ... and does not install background apps.
No auto sync, no mobile data.
Get aLogCat from the Android Market.
I'm using Task Manager at the moment which lets you kill everything with one button but my problem is with the amount of tasks that keep coming back. For instance I rarely use Skype or Photobucket (although I like having them) but they still end up in the list of running tasks. Is there anything that can stop them from starting at all?
Thanks.
They always advise here not to install any task killer..
But I'm interested too on how to stop those apps like skype, YM, etc. that keeps on running, I get irritated sometimes even I just recently stopped them using settings-app-running services, but still they keep on coming back..
brochador said:
They always advise here not to install any task killer..
But I'm interested too on how to stop those apps like skype, YM, etc. that keeps on running, I get irritated sometimes even I just recently stopped them using settings-app-running services, but still they keep on coming back..
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They may appear in the Running Services tab , but they're frozen, they're not taking ressources in that state. Killing them with a task killer causes them to respawn, and if the process is frequent (such as autokilling every 30 minutes) there is a cycle of constant kill-respawn which affects your battery life.
so thhere no way to stop it..kinda annoying
Yes,they do that alot dont they?
well,fear not,you dont need the task manager because its GOOD that your memory is free,it means your APPS will boot QUICKER! This true! it works differnetely than on windows,so you dont need a task killer,i dont use it anymore
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I'm using Task Manager at the moment which lets you kill everything with one button but my problem is with the amount of tasks that keep coming back. For instance I rarely use Skype or Photobucket (although I like having them) but they still end up in the list of running tasks. Is there anything that can stop them from starting at all?
Thanks.
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You can root and delete them.
Or
You can try Android Assistant which can prevent programs from loading when you turn your phone on. Dont need root.
Either way, you should get android assistant. It is an excellent phone manager.
And oh yea, never use a task killer. When it kills an app, the phone will load it again, then task killer will kill it, then the phone will load it again, then task killer will kill it, etc etc etc in a never ending cycle of processor and battery wastage.
Thanks, I'll try Android Assistant
i second the recomendation for android assistant! everytime i reflash my firmware or whatever, that is one of the first apps i download. i like to compare it to the msconfig utility on windows you can stop things from loading at boot, kill things that are currently running, and so much more
This is a general android question not m8 related
so my question is, is there any way to make apps run in background ?
For example when i press the home key when using whatsapp the app has exited since the timestamp changes from online to last seen at
So i need the app to run always in background
Any ideas ?
My phone is ROOTED btw
I'm not sure about making it run as though it's open on the screen.... But if you did manage that, battery life may take a hit.
But hitting the home button does not close apps. They usually are still running. Until you exit them yourself, or the system boots them out of memory when they are old and it needs the ram.
I'm guessing though that the app simply times out if you aren't active for a certain amount of time... As most such apps do. That's how they keep traffic down on their servers.
Again... Just guessing.
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I'm not sure about making it run as though it's open on the screen.... But if you did manage that, battery life may take a hit.
But hitting the home button does not close apps. They usually are still running. Until you exit them yourself, or the system boots them out of memory when they are old and it needs the ram.
I'm guessing though that the app simply times out if you aren't active for a certain amount of time... As most such apps do. That's how they keep traffic down on their servers.
Again... Just guessing.
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Yeah I know that it will affect battery life and I don't care.
Hitting the home button won't exit the app but as I said the timestamp of Whatsapp changes to last seen at from online.
So if the app runs in background everytime then it will be online :laugh:
Thats what I need to accomplish
Hi all,
I'm running several apps that should run all the time (AdGuard, Network Speed Meter) or for a long time (speed trap warner,...) but OxygenOS kills them after a certain period. Some of them restart automatically, some don't. Of course all of these apps are 'not battery optimized'. Is there any chance to prevent OxygenOS from killing them?
Are there custom ROMs that can overcome this problen?
I'm on the latest OxygenOS Pie Beta, but the behavior was similar on Android O...
Thanks a lot,
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Did you try locking the app via recents menu?
Thank for the info, didn't know that.
Unfortunately it doesn't help, Adguard and the network monitor don't appear in recents. The speed trap warner automatically starts and stops when I'm in the car, i don't want to open recents manually every time.
Battery - Battery optimisation - Don't optimise
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Battery - Battery optimisation - Don't optimise
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This is not changing anything,e ven with disable battery disabled, even with adaptative battery disabled.
I have the same problem. I have not found any solution whatsoever. This is really frustrating. I've made sure apps aren't optimized. Advanced optimization is disabled. Developer options background limit is at standard. I've pinned the apps in recent apps and it still happens. Apps get killed all the time.
For example,
1. I use Google Fit to start tracking a run. Within 10 minutes of tracking, the app is closed and workout not tracked. Its not even like i touched the phone and opened other apps during this.
2. I have VoIP account setup in the default dialer. Calls come through only 50% of the time cause the dialer is closed.
3. YouTube Music, constantly gets closed if i simply pause the music. Within 2 minutes, the app is closed.
4. Trying to transfer 15GB of files through Explorer app from phone to file server, never succeeds if i don't watch the app and keep the screen on.
5. Plex gets closed and therefore my photos don't auto backup with the phone is plugged in.
This is absolutely ridiculous! Why the hell a phone with 8GB of RAM is killing apps is beyond me!
Custom ROM on the same phone, like Lineage OS, no issues. Can have optimization on, battery manager on and all. In fact, battery life is better on custom when its not killing the apps! Seems to be the only solution until OOS can stop killing apps so aggressively.
M3drvr said:
I have the same problem. I have not found any solution whatsoever. This is really frustrating. I've made sure apps aren't optimized. Advanced optimization is disabled. Developer options background limit is at standard. I've pinned the apps in recent apps and it still happens. Apps get killed all the time.
For example,
1. I use Google Fit to start tracking a run. Within 10 minutes of tracking, the app is closed and workout not tracked. Its not even like i touched the phone and opened other apps during this.
2. I have VoIP account setup in the default dialer. Calls come through only 50% of the time cause the dialer is closed.
3. YouTube Music, constantly gets closed if i simply pause the music. Within 2 minutes, the app is closed.
4. Trying to transfer 15GB of files through Explorer app from phone to file server, never succeeds if i don't watch the app and keep the screen on.
5. Plex gets closed and therefore my photos don't auto backup with the phone is plugged in.
This is absolutely ridiculous! Why the hell a phone with 8GB of RAM is killing apps is beyond me!
Custom ROM on the same phone, like Lineage OS, no issues. Can have optimization on, battery manager on and all. In fact, battery life is better on custom when its not killing the apps! Seems to be the only solution until OOS can stop killing apps so aggressively.
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My app is not killed when i lock it in the switch app menu
There's a whole website regarding that issue on several devices, maybe it helps: dontkillmyapp(dot)com/general#user-solution