Every time I try to it freezes and then reboots my phone. When the phone turns back on, the app isn't installed.
It's been doing this to me with every app I try and download. (I keep getting that annoying voicemail update notification, also any apps I have from the market don't install.)
I originally had it rooted, then updated to the 3.29 (dumb idea, I know) and had an issue with the install, fixed that and now it won't install apps.
My question is this:
Should I take it back (to best buy, where I got it) and have them just replace it, or would re-rooting my phone (I'd probably use unrevoked 3.21), and flashing a new ROM (I've had my eye on Myn's Warm twopointtwo) possibly fix it?
can anyone offer some insight?
thunderstruck484 said:
would re-rooting my phone (I'd probably use unrevoked 3.21), and flashing a new ROM (I've had my eye on Myn's Warm twopointtwo) possibly fix it?
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I would say re-root, wipe everything, then flash a new ROM. That will probably fix it. If it doesn't, you have something very wrong.
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I would say re-root, wipe everything, then flash a new ROM. That will probably fix it. If it doesn't, you have something very wrong.
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yeah, its that "very wrong" thing I'm worried about. I just want to be sure that I'm not gonna get stuck with a bricked phone or anything like that.
I was going to do unrevoked 3.21, but once I started it up it told me if there were any problems with my phone that I shouldn't do it.
So I came on here and decided to ask for help.
How did you originally root? If you used Unrevoked Forever you can easily re-root from stock without have to run Unrevoked again.
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How did you originally root? If you used Unrevoked Forever you can easily re-root from stock without have to run Unrevoked again.
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I used simpleroot OTA 1.47.651.1 edition.
it said one click root, so I used it.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=720565
Thats the one I used
It's hard to say. It you have PRI 1.77 (which you probably got from the OTA update) and no other signs of rooting (Superuser app, Titanium Backup, etc.) you may be safe taking it back to Best Buy. I don't know how well they look for signs of rooting before doing warranty repairs/replacements.
Between taking it in and trying to re-root, I really can't say which is riskier.
ok so I fixed it by rooting and flashing a new rom. The problem seems to be with the OTA rom, for some reason it wouldn't allow new programs.
weird.
thanks for the help!!
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It's hard to say. It you have PRI 1.77 (which you probably got from the OTA update) and no other signs of rooting (Superuser app, Titanium Backup, etc.) you may be safe taking it back to Best Buy. I don't know how well they look for signs of rooting before doing warranty repairs/replacements.
Between taking it in and trying to re-root, I really can't say which is riskier.
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yeah I thought of this too and figured it had to be a problem with the rom. So I rooted and flashed and now it is working.
edit:I did have the superuser app. Didn't work tho, obv. but I had it.
thanks for your help!
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What's the best way to get rooted. I've tried te avalauncher way, they tell me I have to be rooted to use it. I've tried the simple root OTA, but when it's suppose to take you to factory restore, my phone goes to a backup/restore screen, so it fails cause I can't restore it. Please give me assistance.
I am running 2.2 from a manual install. No root.
You have to wait until the guys here find a way for p eople to root once they have 2.2 . That could take anywhere from a few days to a few weeks
Most likely you are NOT going to be able to root since you ran the OTA update for 2.2....
That is why you should read what you are flashing and know the consequences prior to doing so. Every thread that contained the download for the 2.2 leak said that it will make you lose root and the ability ( for now ) to gain root status.
You need to wait until one of the geniuses figure out a way to do it.
Sorry about your luck.
The best way is toast method...
Good luck!
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UND3RTAK3R said:
The best way is toast method...you can email me if you have any problems [email protected]
Good luck!
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Not gonna work since he used the 2.2 update man.
EVOme said:
What's the best way to get rooted. I've tried te avalauncher way, they tell me I have to be rooted to use it. I've tried the simple root OTA, but when it's suppose to take you to factory restore, my phone goes to a backup/restore screen, so it fails cause I can't restore it. Please give me assistance.
I am running 2.2 from a manual install. No root.
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1. wrong forum, should be in Q&A
2. if you did the manual update from Sprint, you will have to wait until the devs here create a root method for stock 2.2 is developed. Any existing root method will not work at all.
EVOme said:
What's the best way to get rooted. I've tried te avalauncher way, they tell me I have to be rooted to use it. I've tried the simple root OTA, but when it's suppose to take you to factory restore, my phone goes to a backup/restore screen, so it fails cause I can't restore it. Please give me assistance.
I am running 2.2 from a manual install. No root.
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You installed the plain OTA update? The one that says "not rooted yet" on the thread title?
For each new update, HTC tries to protect its software from being rooted. The last update required users to exploit a Flash Lite vulnerability and took a while. You will probably have to wait a long time before you can root this, since it doesn't have Flash Lite.
For future reference, root first THEN update to a rooted rom released by our devs. You can't just install Ava's rom on top of stock 2.2, it prevents you from doing so.
I'm sorry but HOW MANY posts were there saying if you want to keep root, DO NOT INSTALL THE UPDATE?? Ugh...
And yes I know this isn't constructive but sometimes people just need a slap on the back if the head.
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I'm in the same boat. After trying hard to resist the urge, I gave in and installed the leak. After finding the rooted version, I tried to use the 1.47 RUU to go back but it error-ed out. I'm so bummed I can't go back. Oh well; I knew the risk I was taking though so I guess I have to live with it...
Hours my my day wasted....HOURS!!!
Where's my AR-15
Wow, just wow.
I just had a thought: If there is no method for rooting yet, then how are the stock roms being rooted?
Here we go again
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I just had a thought: If there is no method for rooting yet, then how are the stock roms being rooted?
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By digging thru it and finding an exploit.
Which will most likely happen for the 2.2 update as well, just not as of yet.
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I just had a thought: If there is no method for rooting yet, then how are the stock roms being rooted?
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With a ROM, you can run through the zip file and essentially take out the parts that would remove root and modify as you see fit to put on an already rooted device -- the device isn't running all the security checks on the ROM, since it's already been rooted to remove those. Much easier, almost trivial.
If you have a non-rooted device, though, you have to find a way to get the device, not the ROM, rooted. The device isn't going to take an unofficial ROM. Big difference, since you have to exploit something already on the device somehow. With the last OTA update, it was Flash Lite that could be exploited for root access to the device. With this one, no one has found a method to root the device once the OTA has been applied (and probably won't really try that hard until the official version is released, in case it closes any exploits that are in the version floating around now).
xeno314 said:
With a ROM, you can run through the zip file and essentially take out the parts that would remove root and modify as you see fit to put on an already rooted device -- the device isn't running all the security checks on the ROM, since it's already been rooted to remove those. Much easier, almost trivial.
If you have a non-rooted device, though, you have to find a way to get the device, not the ROM, rooted. The device isn't going to take an unofficial ROM. Big difference, since you have to exploit something already on the device somehow. With the last OTA update, it was Flash Lite that could be exploited for root access to the device. With this one, no one has found a method to root the device once the OTA has been applied (and probably won't really try that hard until the official version is released, in case it closes any exploits that are in the version floating around now).
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Beat me to it and said it better.
bludragon742 said:
I'm in the same boat. After trying hard to resist the urge, I gave in and installed the leak. After finding the rooted version, I tried to use the 1.47 RUU to go back but it error-ed out. I'm so bummed I can't go back. Oh well; I knew the risk I was taking though so I guess I have to live with it...
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I have no idea how it was "hard to resist" when AVA's rooted version showed up at 5:30pm and netarchy's showed up around 9pm. They showed up before any official sprint OTA. Lets also not forget the hundreds of posts warning people that this would happen.
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I just had a thought: If there is no method for rooting yet, then how are the stock roms being rooted?
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The "rooting method" allows you to get into restricted areas of the phone to install stuff. The act of rooting is breaking into the phone itself, not into the rom. The rom itself is fully accessable and can be hacked up, its just getting it onto the phone is the hard part.
Essentially your phone, stock, is a box that's locked from the inside. For older versions people figured out how to unlock it, so that you can put any hacked up rom onto it. The new OTA, no one knows how to get in yet.
Don't know if that makes sense. It's pretty easy to understand if you understand OS permissions.
EDIT: what the other guy said.
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I just had a thought: If there is no method for rooting yet, then how are the stock roms being rooted?
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Because someone takes the CONTENT of the update, and applies it piece-by-piece to an already rooted image, ignoring the bits that replace HBOOT and etc.
Mad06STi said:
I have no idea how it was "hard to resist" when AVA's rooted version showed up at 5:30pm and netarchy's showed up around 9pm. .
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I'll tell you why. The thread gets to 200 pages. There are people saying it works, sucks, bricks, awesome, hate it, stay away, success, etc. After reading 40 pages of it you have no idea up from down. Speaking from someone that is not familiar with Android rooting. It's frustrating. Then you go to one of the other 50 threads and it's all the same.
I never saw anywhere that if I installed the leak i'd be screwed. I'm fine with that though. I have 2.2 and can wait. Just annoyed i've spent hours of my day on this.
This thread was a funny read.
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I just tried to load the HTC update 3.26.651.6 to 3.29.651.5 on an unrevoked EVO and ended up getting the little droid dude and a triangle with a exclamation point inside of it.
What does this mean? Is this an error and/or was I suposed to do something to load the software? Do I even want or need this update? Tethering at 4G is currently working great w/o the update.
same thing happened to me.
I think I'm just gonna install the fresh rom through recovery
conductive said:
I just tried to load the HTC update 3.26.651.6 to 3.29.651.5 on an unrevoked EVO and ended up getting the little droid dude and a triangle with a exclamation point inside of it.
What does this mean? Is this an error and/or was I suposed to do something to load the software? Do I even want or need this update? Tethering at 4G is currently working great w/o the update.
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It's probably failing if you removed any of the stock Sprint applications.
This is also assuming you are running the stock ROM.
The main reason to get the 3.29 update is that this unlocks the 30FPS cap on the EVO. The average FPS on this kernel seems to be in the low 50's. Everything feels pretty snappy. Really good update.
I'm really against updating OTA through Sprint when you're rooted, since bad things may happen (lose root, etc).
3 methods you can do:
1. Install the stock ROM backup as it was when you first rooted (you did backup immediately after rooting before you did anything,... right???). Then run the update and let it break root. Then run Unrevoked 3.21 again.
2. There's a method in the Development section on how to force the 3.29 update on your phone.
3. Install a custom ROM that includes this update. (Fresh 3.3.0.1 I know uses this update)
Thanks for the clues.
I do not beleive that I removed any of the stock apps and my rom should be stock. Yes I am locked at 30fps & I have heard good things about the battery life associated with the upgrade. I guess I started running before I was walking so I only did several drag and drop backups. I have since TB and nand backed do not like the Sprint upgrades, tried anyway and it did not work. Downloaded dev upgrades and will attempt them.
Thanks and sorry about the learning curve issues.
I too am getting the Triangle/Exclamation Point & Droid Dude after attempting to update....ugh, how do I fix???
Sprint updates do not work on a rooted device. Un root or re-rom
If your rooted do not ever try two update your phone via Sprint you could brick phone.
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So I have stock 2.2... rooted.... and I removed verizon crapware.
I just got the notification that an update is ready for me? this is the one that contains the verizon app store... as well as I think a new kernel.
Is it safe to install? would it even install? If I did would I lose root?
You would loose root if it takes.
The update may fail depending on if it checks for stock apps. Not sure if this update will.
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thehoovie said:
You would loose root if it takes.
The update may fail depending on if it checks for stock apps. Not sure if this update will.
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Well...since the root process also gives s-off... I'm a little confused about all of this. Shouldn't that let me get root back? and wouldn't the update fail since I don't have stock recovery?
Do I say install? Aaaaaigh
If you let it try to restart and install the update ClockworkMod will deny it, and the notification will go away for a while (either one day or one week, I can't remember).
I got the notification an hour or so ago on myn's warm twopointtwo.
NYC Coyote said:
Well...since the root process also gives s-off... I'm a little confused about all of this. Shouldn't that let me get root back? and wouldn't the update fail since I don't have stock recovery?
Do I say install? Aaaaaigh
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Some one might be better able to explain root vs. S-OFF than I but ill give it a try.
Root is for your operating system. It's like in winblows having administrator privileges so you can execute high level commands, modify system settings, etc...
S-OFF allows for your phones bootloader (like a PCs BIOS) to flash unsigned files. So, if we do get an update that removes root, we can flash a custom recovery program, to then install a ROM that does have or can be rooted.
Do a backup. I don't think the update will install or stop bugging you to do it. You should be able to modify your build prop to stop the messages.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=9123362&postcount=9
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I'm rooted and have S-Off, standard 2.2 ROM.
I would like to apply this OTA when it arrives, mostly because I'm a developer and have posted a few apps into the VCast store. Need to confirm they are there.
So should I hold off on applying it, or assume I can just use Unrevoked to re-root after the OTA?
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I'm rooted and have S-Off, standard 2.2 ROM.
I would like to apply this OTA when it arrives, mostly because I'm a developer and have posted a few apps into the VCast store. Need to confirm they are there.
So should I hold off on applying it, or assume I can just use Unrevoked to re-root after the OTA?
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+1 for this, I just want to install this for the sake of being up-to-date. I need my precious root, though.
I would like to apply this OTA when it arrives, mostly because I'm a developer and have posted a few apps into the VCast store. Need to confirm they are there.
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Why can't you look in the VCast store otherwise? If your phone is not the newest version then it won't have access to it?
Yeah... I would actually love to be able to install this... Especially since if I read correctly I would keep root.
As for the bloat, I can just remove it like the other bloat...
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I want this update but I'm on virtuous 3.1 and didn't get it... I want the apps and what not
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Mostly because I'd like to be able to check my vCast stats and comments from my phone, plus I think it's a good idea to be a user of the service if I'm selling apps on it.
*I posted this in another thread, copying here*
We have several Dinc's here at work. The only phones to receive this update so far are the slcd incredibles. Amoled doesn't seem to be getting it. And there appears to be a side effect after the update is applied, if you had a bluetooth device connected you need to unpair and re-pair the device. People are noticing that the scrolling seems much faster after the update so I'm going out on a limb and assuming the update had something to do with updating the slcd drivers.
Also had an issue on one where the phone wouldn't boot up after the reboot until the battery was pulled out and put back in.
***This did not break root on any of the phones***
Carnage9270 said:
*I posted this in another thread, copying here*
We have several Dinc's here at work. The only phones to receive this update so far are the slcd incredibles. Amoled doesn't seem to be getting it. And there appears to be a side effect after the update is applied, if you had a bluetooth device connected you need to unpair and re-pair the device. People are noticing that the scrolling seems much faster after the update so I'm going out on a limb and assuming the update had something to do with updating the slcd drivers.
Also had an issue on one where the phone wouldn't boot up after the reboot until the battery was pulled out and put back in.
***This did not break root on any of the phones***
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Mine is one of the originals (had it since day one) and I received the OTA... it just didn't take cause I'm rooted (guessing it has something to do with replacing the recovery with clockwork.
I'd love to know how to apply it in case it was more than just crapware (which I will uninstall since i'm rooted)
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Mine is one of the originals (had it since day one) and I received the OTA... it just didn't take cause I'm rooted (guessing it has something to do with replacing the recovery with clockwork.
I'd love to know how to apply it in case it was more than just crapware (which I will uninstall since i'm rooted)
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I'm in the same situation, rooted original Incredible with Clockwork
This seems to be the info on the ota.
http://theflickcast.com/2010/11/12/htc-droid-incredible-ota-update-rolling-out/
And here's a link if you want the vcast apk
http://phandroid.com/2010/11/09/dro...ate-goes-out-today-v-cast-apps-now-available/
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This seems to be the info on the ota.
http://theflickcast.com/2010/11/12/htc-droid-incredible-ota-update-rolling-out/
And here's a link if you want the vcast apk
http://phandroid.com/2010/11/09/dro...ate-goes-out-today-v-cast-apps-now-available/
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I'd like those bug fixes, but it's not worth losing root :/
So it looks like someone will need to grab the OTA update... and repackage it as an update.zip for clockwork
Hello all!
First I am not new to flashing and/or hacking phones I have done many back in my WM and other phone days,just somewhat new to Android
I have looked around and I think I already know whats up but I can't say I have seen this question asked yet...I did search
Here we go,
I have an Evo with Hboot 2.10 Stock sprint flash (as in from the sprint store) and I updated to S/W 3.70 with out first checking to see what it had...(yea stupid of me )
What I want to do is Temp root into the phone,use Ti backup or whatever to make a back up of the stock apps and then remove them. I only want to remove the sprint tv,nascar,blockbuster and other apps that I don't use that don't tie into the rest of the OS.
I tried with Z4root but seeing as I have S/W 3.70 not much happens
I don't really care to flash to new rom as I am happy with the stock flash just want to get rid of apps I will never use.
So far my only option is to wait from what I have looked up,I just wanted to know if I could execute my plan with out a full system flash.
Thank you for your time and if anyone needs more info I will be glad to give it!
Yes, it seems 3.70 has patched the exploit that z4root was using to get temp root. Until the devs find a way to get a new exploit you'll have to wait.
With the rate these Devs work, I'd give it a week and you should be able to root your phone
Thanks!
I figured that was what I would have to do,but it never hurts to ask
A quick update.
It seems as if Z4root still does work even with the 3.70 OTA update...
I was searching around on Google and found people with this exact set up that had been able to temp root.
Not sure on the why yet but I had to do a reset to factory default first in order to get z4root to give me temp root(Maybe something from the update was hanging around on the phone blocking z4??). I then fired up TI backup and started to remove the Sprint stock apps I don't use and and a few other save to remove ones!
So if anyone is looking to stay on the stock sprint rom and has S/W 3.70 this might work for you as well!
And now I am fully rooted and running the sprintlovers rom. I was able to follow the guides here and get my phone flashed up.
If anyone has the same set up and needs help let me know!
How did you get permanent root on 3.70? I was going to try the'savior' adb method, but I'm afraid of bricking. I did just download unrevoked's new beta root though. I might try that when I get home
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how did you get root? I'm thinking of the savior method too (same evo specs). I'm guessing you used that since you're on sprintlovers?
Going from 4.22 to 4.24 OTA if you kept it stock and rooted will keep the root?
Going from 4.22 to 4.24 was just bug fixing and does not touch any part of the phone other than those bugs?
okay, so is this true? I have yet to see a real answer of yes or no. I saw people with 2-3 posts saying it. but need an expert opinion on this? It takes a long ass time to put my phone back to how it was when I do a full wipe/flash. just trying to save some time. Don't have time to sit and wait 2-3 hours for my phone to recover. so the OTA doesn't in any form or way touch bootloader or root or anything that would cause damage to the OS? of course talking about the 6M one. lol
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Going from 4.22 to 4.24 OTA if you kept it stock and rooted will keep the root?
Going from 4.22 to 4.24 was just bug fixing and does not touch any part of the phone other than those bugs?
okay, so is this true? I have yet to see a real answer of yes or no. I saw people with 2-3 posts saying it. but need an expert opinion on this? It takes a long ass time to put my phone back to how it was when I do a full wipe/flash. just trying to save some time. Don't have time to sit and wait 2-3 hours for my phone to recover. so the OTA doesn't in any form or way touch bootloader or root or anything that would cause damage to the OS? of course talking about the 6M one. lol
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I wouldn't chance it. There were a couple of OTA's back in the day that didn't touch the bootloader (that I was aware of) that caused people to lose root. In particular this affected me because one of the updates didn't have a root exploit and I needed to wait a week or two to root my phone (so...awful...haha)
I mainly want to know if someone has done it on this exact update and if it worked or didn't work. :-D
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I mainly want to know if someone has done it on this exact update and if it worked or didn't work. :-D
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The only people who would have done it are people who don't read in the first place. If they did read, they'd know that nobody recommends accepting an OTA when you're rooted. So since anyone who's tried what you're asking doesn't read, they won't have read your post either.
You will lose root access when you accept the OTA. Normally you can get it back if you're S-OFF, though there's always some level of risk if they really wanted to get serious about locking people out. But there's no reason to try, since you can go here and just flash a rooted version of the ROM. You'll end up doing that anyway if you want to have root access, so you're wasting time and taking a risk by accepting the OTA.
You should be able to flash the updated rooted rom without wiping data -- just wipe cache and dalvik cache and then flash it.
I'll try it next weekend. lol. just didn't want to spend time doing it. haha
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I'll try it next weekend. lol. just didn't want to spend time doing it. haha
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Use recovery to do a nandroid (include android_secure and ext3 in the backup if you use them), and then there's really no risk of losing your setup. You can always restore back to where you are. A Titanium Backup run is also quite useful. But like I said, you should be able to flash the rooted 4.24 ROM over the rooted 4.22 you're running with only a wipe of cache and dalvik. That's basically how the OTA does the upgrade for non-rooted users.
Yes you can update without losing root as long as you have used either the newest unrevoked method for evo's OR unrevoked forever. Just do not update over the air, as in just download it but do not install it. Follow this link step by step:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1109272
It's never a good idea to accept an ota update if you are rooted.
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Yes you can update without losing root as long as you have used either the newest unrevoked method for evo's OR unrevoked forever. Just do not update over the air, as in just download it but do not install it. Follow this link step by step:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1109272
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But that's if you're going from the old one to the completely new one. I'm going from 4.22 to 4.24
The instructions given are flat out wrong and don't even work. the OTA isn't in the cache folder. I've checked. errrrrrrrr. sounds like it needs to be updated. that thread is clearly upgrading to 22, not 24.
Well, I'm just going to use clockworkmod to install it. lmao Will this work?
Flash one of the roms in the development section. Wipe cache and dalvik like stated and go on about your way without risking your root status.
Besides that, if you did first flash a deodexed 4.22 from here and try to apply the sprint 4.24 patch you will have a system conflict between the odex and deodex files
To help answer your question, if you're currently rooted and accept the OTA, you will loose root access, BUT as long as you don't flash the S-On tool you will still be able to flash after downloading a custom recovery such as Amon_Ra and then continue flashing whatever you want. I have done this to many phones since the update and haven't had a single problem yet. But if you flash S-On, you're screwed until they are able to hack the new Bootloader.
Even after accepting the OTA and having S-Off, your hBoot will update but you Can go back to Froyo if desired and hBoot will change back to Froyo compatible 2.10 not 2.16. So I hope my answer helps and will let you know what you're looking for!
I installed the 22 odex version. and I am now at this second doing the 24 odex version. so hope everything goes well. haha. if not. made a backup. so hope the backup works. :-D Just trying to avoid spending hours on getting my phone back in order because downage means money and time lost.
EDIT= so CONFIRMING that going from 22 to 24 with going through clockworkmod completely works without any issues. I was just afraid to do it. hahahaha just as long as you don't wipe data and cache