Im new to Android, just upgraded from a Blackstone to a Desire this week.
Im trying to figure out how to disable the HTC `basic` lockscreen that appears, with the lower curved bar and notifications. I want to just have the gesture lock when i power on, and not have to thumb down the first lock bar to get to a second lockscreen.
how can i get rid of it ?
I'm just looking for this myself... no luck so far but if I do, I'll post my findings
You can use NoLock. Unfortunately it does what it says. It disables locking. This way, all key will wake the phone!
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I'm looking for a solution to this very same problem. NoLock won't help because it also disables the lock pattern. So how to disable lockscreen and just leave lock pattern?
Hi All!
I found a few threads on the Internet in different forums with no answer so I thought I'll ask the pros:
When I'm using Pin or Password to unlock the phone, I get the standard lockscreen display before I can unlock the phone, so it goes:
On/Off Button -> Lock Screen -> Pin / Password
The problem is when I'm using an unlock pattern, the lock screen gets skipped, so it goes:
On/Off Button -> Unlock Pattern
This is very annoying since I like to use the lockscreens mute function without having to unlock the phone. Apparently there is no way of changing this with settings so I was wondering if anyone know of a patch or another way to have the lockscreen AND the unlock pattern?
I'm using the Oxygen 2.0 RC6 Gingerbread Rom on my Desire but this seems to be a generel "issue" with stock Android Roms (Hero Roms and Froyo Roms is the same) - Sense based Roms behave different.
Thx for any hint!
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I am having a similar issue and my searching only found this thread.
While at work (2/3rds of my waking life) I use my phone at work to see where my next appointment is. It's very convenient to just glance down and see what meeting I have next by only hitting the power button. From what I have seen there are a lot of apps which will add this functionality to the lock screen.
The problem is when I add a passcode (required by work) it replaces the unlock screen with the passcode screen. I have seen that other Android phones do not do this, but the Captivate does. I've tried four different roms and all have this same behavior.
Is it possible to have the unlock screen come up, and when the phone is unlocked to prompt the passcode? I can't find a setting anywhere and the third party apps like Flylock have a jarring user experience in this configuration.
Thanks
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Mabus the Mad said:
Is it possible to have the unlock screen come up, and when the phone is unlocked to prompt the passcode? I can't find a setting anywhere and the third party apps like Flylock have a jarring user experience in this configuration.
Thanks
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The purpose of the pattern lock is to prevent unauthorized use of the phone. So it doesn't make sense if you put the lock screen over the pattern lock(or combined them) as you, or any stranger, will be able to issue commands(mute, read messages, weather, music etc. there are lots of widgets running on the lock screen) to the phone BEFORE unlocking it.
The security of the pattern lock will be totally compromised.
So the only choice is pattern lock over lock screen. I don't see how this makes anything easier. And I won't go into how it will create huge security loopholes/bypass the pattern lock completely if widgets or anything is allow to run on/over the lockscreen.
Perhaps I am using the wrong terminology, I should be referring to it as the "Unlock Screen" (Settings -> Display -> Unlock Screen). From this screen it appears that you can:
1) View the time
2) Unlock the phone
3) Mute the phone
4) See the notification bar (Vibrate, Battery, Signal, Pending notifications, etc)
I would actually like to add:
5) Next calendar appointment with location
6) Weather
This is all actions / information I want available at a glance and without unlocking the phone. Once I attempt to unlock I would like to be presented with the pattern / pin security. In this way all my private information remains hidden, but the information I use the most often while walking / driving is readily available.
I am also good with anyone else being able to pick up my phone and perform the actions I listed on the unlock screen. I believe this information is available from the unlock screen on the Windows Phone and iPhone (assuming it's your only notification, their notification system sucks).
Mabus the Mad said:
This is all actions / information I want available at a glance and without unlocking the phone. Once I attempt to unlock I would like to be presented with the pattern / pin security. In this way all my private information remains hidden, but the information I use the most often while walking / driving is readily available.
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That PERMISSION to allow you do issue commands to your phone will compromise the security of the pattern/pin lock screen. You need to understand the core concept of the pattern lock screen is to be secure - no unauthorized use of the phone, whether it's as small as viewing notifications to fullon running widgets/apps.
Plus your definition of being secure doesn't equate to everyone's definition of security. It fine for you to display messages on the securely locked phone but it's definitely not for some of my friends who have really sensitive data on their phone.
I was not trying to advocate this behavior to everyone, just wondering if it was possible to set this up myself. One of the things I like about this phone is that everyone can customize it to fit their own tastes.
Actually, I think I found my solution. Flashed to CM7 last night. The pattern screen still had the behavior as the 2.2 roms but the passcode had the behavior I was looking for.
Well the thing is: When using PIN or Password to unlock, you can actually use the lockscreen to mute etc. before unlocking. And using the original HTC Rom, this is possible using unlock pattern, too. Everyone will have to decide for themself if he cosiders this function a thread to security, its just really annoying that I have to decide between unlock pattern and unlock screen even tho it should not be a problem technicaly. Cyanogen guys apparently have this on their list, but with minor priority. I'm really close to moving back to a HTC rom actually...
this bugs me too.. I like the PATTERN cause it's kind of unique and cool plus when you enter your pattern there is no "OK" key you have to press like you do when using PIN/PASSWORD which for some reason annoys me.. I suppose it's another line of defense against prying eyes that make it that much more work to try different pin options.. I don't know maybe it's to annoy them into giving up?.. Anyways, I've opted to use the PIN option because I too like seeing the Lock Screen and any info it has and I really don't see it as that big a security hole seeing the small amount of info on the lock screen.. unless you're running a ROM or app that has popups for messages and such.. and if it really is then Google should make the behavior that you do pattern then to the lock screen. of course I'm sure their reasoning for this is the pattern is a more difficult form of security to breach so there is benefit and no harm from taking you straight into the unlocked phone once the correct pattern has been entered. that doesn't mean we have to agree with the mighty G on this and I'm sure either Devs cooking in the ROM kitchen could change the behavior if they saw the want in the community, maybe a patch could be made or an app that changes the behavior. anyways, that's my $.02
If any of you guys find a solution around this issue please let us know!
Haven't seen any solution yet, how about you guys?
I have two lock screens now. One with Sense UI lock (drag to unlock) and my pattern as the second lock screen.
I know this has been a problem with Sense before.
Is it possible to just have one lock screen, my pattern.
Phone: HTC Espresso: myTouch 3G Slide
Rom: CR_Mod_2.13.531.1 OTA Rooted
Radio: 7.15.35.16
I didn't think that was a problem, lol. I thought that was how Sense worked. Or atleast the MyTouch version.
Can't say I've see a way to have what you're asking for though :/
I actually have a similar, yet opposite question. Im currently running CM6.1.1 and would like to have the two lock screens instead of one. I use a pattern lock but would like to have the Slider locks creen come up before I'm asked to input my pattern since sometimes all I want to do is switch from Vibrate to Sound or check the time. (I know the pattern screen has the time but the slider screen looks better)
Any help would be appreciated
When I activate the lock pattern security on my phone, the CM7 custom lockscreen does not show up - when I hit the power button, the screen directly opens to the pattern lock screen. Does anyone know why this might be happening or if I could somehow fix it? Thanks!
That's the feature of the lockscreen on all ROMs. You either get the tabs/rotary/lense + keyboard/pin, or you get the pattern lockscreen. There's an issuetracker ticket requesting that the pattern unlock also get the tab/lense/rotary unlock, but it's unlikely to happen.
Oh okay thanks!
I've recently bought the 4g touch and installed the starburst rom and I've found that if I have any kind of security setup (pin, password) that none of the lockscreens seem to be enabled. As soon as I wake the phone up it throws me straight into the pin/password screen. Has anyone else ran into this type of issue before and have a fix? Any help would be appreciated because I'm at a loss for solution and even google isn't helping me unfortunately.
Errenden said:
I've recently bought the 4g touch and installed the starburst rom and I've found that if I have any kind of security setup (pin, password) that none of the lockscreens seem to be enabled. As soon as I wake the phone up it throws me straight into the pin/password screen. Has anyone else ran into this type of issue before and have a fix? Any help would be appreciated because I'm at a loss for solution and even google isn't helping me unfortunately.
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I am not sure if this is how it is supposed to function or not, but I can confirm that this is the same behavior I experience. If you select "None", then the pin lock doesn't even come up. I have to select sgs2 and it will then show my lock screen... but yeah, if you select anything else with a lock setup it does not show that lockmod. -Grand
this is the expected behavior. otherwise you'd have to unlock the phone twice everytime once for the pin then once for the normal lockscreen.
i've never used a pin on any of my phones is the dual unlock normal/what you were expecting ?
mjcollum said:
this is the expected behavior. otherwise you'd have to unlock the phone twice everytime once for the pin then once for the normal lockscreen.
i've never used a pin on any of my phones is the dual unlock normal/what you were expecting ?
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My previous two phones, HTC Hero and Evo 4g both had the lockscreen show up, swipe to unlock, and the pass/pin screen show up. I suppose I figured that was default behavior for most phones. To me it makes the most sense to me to have the lockscreen, swipe to unlock, then show pin/pass screen since it would allow flexibility of music controls/phone/sound without having to log into the phone and provide some basic security.