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UPDATE On HTC DESIRE OFFICE FROYO UPDATE DELAY

Called HTC today. Gentleman said that google has not released 2.2 to HTC yet for development so it definitely won't be released on 23rd (today). He said when they have it, there will be a schedule released on the front page of htc.com/www/

already got it. apparently
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why say "delay"?
HTC didn't officially say that it will be released today, 23 June.
Just my 2 cents.

Oh Goodness T_T
this is real sad.
Bet so many desire owners feels the pain =(

what to say, htc support!
:jack

Simc13 said:
what to say, htc support!
:jack
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.... How is it sad?, Google haven't released the source.....look at what roman guy said
http://www.google.com/support/forum...488da0ef21660d1300048994d2e4bf4c&hl=en&hltp=1
Everyone can start complaining once the source is released, but until then, god quit blaming HTC. and yes I know HTC probably already has the source, and has probably already updated Senseui for it, but until Google finalizes it, HTC won't release an update.

JohnQ said:
already got it. apparently
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who's got what??

I don't want to use words like other people about lack of google's informations about any release date, unprofessionnal support, htc support etc... I'm sure they would better hire some of you guys to help them! You are the one which are giving us what we need, not google nor htc. I'm sorry, but feeling like moving to another OS, being iOS or WM7... too disappointed, sorry.

The only people you should be disappointed in are the rumourmongerers who got you thinking that some official source had promised to get you FroYo on 23 June.

jstegeman said:
The only people you should be disappointed in are the rumourmongerers who got you thinking that some official source had promised to get you FroYo on 23 June.
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You're right jstegeman... Even by myself trusting and hoping these. But I had hope in Google as well and not having any fix release date look to me unprofessionnal... the term "shortly" used by them can mean days, weeks, months... Is it so difficult to say the release date will be the xx of xx year xx and keep that date?
Sorry but this might come from my Swiss habits, having the clock's at the right time, no improvisation, organization... I hate "not knowing" and am quite impatient lol

swissman said:
I don't want to use words like other people about lack of google's informations about any release date, unprofessionnal support, htc support etc... I'm sure they would better hire some of you guys to help them! You are the one which are giving us what we need, not google nor htc. I'm sorry, but feeling like moving to another OS, being iOS or WM7... too disappointed, sorry.
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Stupid comment, you got what you bought didn't you?

Riel said:
Stupid comment, you got what you bought didn't you?
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Right. I hope impatient people do move to other handsets and stop posting in the wrong section as well as creating more new threads for the same-pointless- arguments. Go outside and have some fun, walk the dog, etc.

http://translate.google.com/transla...end_story-39002365-41533741-1.htm&sl=de&tl=en
I dont know if this is true, but seems more reliable than words of a customer, lets hope for the best

zdnet is reliably.
and it ever was.
they will lost the good reputation, they worked for if this isnt true
and i dont think, they wanna risk it

This happens again and again and people believe this. Guys, first of all this is a stupid excuse from customer support.
Do you really think that Google lets HTC wait for release like the rest of us? They have been working on 2.2 from early stages too, they must if they want to release timely 2.2 devices.
Secondly, they would never ever release a froyo build before google.

swissman said:
..... But I had hope in Google as well and not having any fix release date look to me unprofessionnal... ..
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Sorry Swissman,
but a new release of a OS is NOT a FIX as you defined it.
There have been fixes available on the air, and - afaik - no other os-manufacturer does release on-the-air fixes like Google does.
Moreover, you bought a mobile phone with a working os, and - always afaik - you cannot blame Google in being supposedly in delay for a new release of an OS.
What should you think then about Microsoft for Windows 7 or Apple for OS 4????? Not to talk about Meego or else.....
Please have a cup of tea and try and have a different opiniono about "unprofessionality"....

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Sorry Swissman,
but a new release of a OS is NOT a FIX as you defined it.
There have been fixes available on the air, and - afaik - no other os-manufacturer does release on-the-air fixes like Google does.
Moreover, you bought a mobile phone with a working os, and - always afaik - you cannot blame Google in being supposedly in delay for a new release of an OS.
What should you think then about Microsoft for Windows 7 or Apple for OS 4????? Not to talk about Meego or else.....
Please have a cup of tea and try and have a different opiniono about "unprofessionality"....
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He meant a FIXED date not a fix for the OS

hey seanomccool, you just got a scoop (not)!
People with some common sense knows it since a few weeks: froyo isn't officially released yet on it's primary platform, so no way it could be released today on the desire! In fact, google just told that there's no ETA yet for froyo.

dont panic m8s,it will happend soon

hyocca said:
Oh Goodness T_T
this is real sad.
Bet so many desire owners feels the pain =(
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seriously that concerned ? get a life !!

[Poll][Community effort]Best way to tell HTC that Desire is lacking updates?!

Hey all!
- So.. we want sense 2.0 right?
- We want Gingerbread right?
- MS Exchange support in Mail client (add account fails..)?
- Maybe a fix for the SMS not sending the sms to the recipient (rare.. but known, see the thread for Desire's bugs)
... I propose we create a common message to HTC asking for updates.
My main reason for this is the same lame answer everyone gets after emailing them for a certain update/fix.
We always get the "we don't know when" or "HTC makes sure you have the latest blah blah blah.."
Let's make a stand and say to HTC we don't want them to be like other companies that don't update "older" models!
Desire's hardware can - surely - withstand Gingerbread + Sense, Sense 2.0 and more..
The specs aren't near old enough not to have the latests features Android has to offer!
So.. with that in mind maybe you could unite our efforts and take a common action..
I'm suggesting the ones in the poll.. have another idea?
Update:
!PANDA as suggested sending the link to this thread to HTC.. so plz leave a reply

Once loads of people have voted, we all e-mail htc with the link to this poll, so they'll actually see this as most of the time they just send us templates.
The same has been done with the 1.24.161.3 vodafone update (just update, no poll used)
That is all. Good Bye.
Sent from my HTC Desire using the XDApp. Pure Madness.

Of course it doesn't hurt to ask them for further support I think it is still to soon to say they won't support us. I think we will get an upgrade to gingerbread, maybe even with sense 2.0 (which I think is the biggest obstacle because the rom is so large otherwise it should run fine( and it does on my phone))
It took them 3 months to port froyo...

tiotempestade said:
Hey all!
- So.. we want sense 2.0 right?
- We want Gingerbread right?
- MS Exchange support in Mail client (add account fails..)?
- Maybe a fix for the SMS not sending the sms to the recipient (rare.. but known, see the thread for Desire's bugs)
... I propose we create a common message to HTC asking for updates.
My main reason for this is the same lame answer everyone gets after emailing them for a certain update/fix.
We always get the "we don't know when" or "HTC makes sure you have the latest blah blah blah.."
Let's make a stand and say to HTC we don't want them to be like other companies that don't update "older" models!
Desire's hardware can - surely - withstand Gingerbread + Sense, Sense 2.0 and more..
The specs aren't near old enough not to have the latests features Android has to offer!
So.. with that in mind maybe you could unite our efforts and take a common action..
I'm suggesting the ones in the poll.. have another idea?
Update:
!PANDA as suggested sending the link to this thread to HTC.. so plz leave a reply
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We already have the first 2 on your list - look through the first 2 pages of the 'Desire Android Development' thread....
My experience is that HTC do whatever HTC want to do. They would much rather have you spend some more $$ on a new device than pour effort into updating/supporting your old one. Now I'm not saying that's how it should be, just saying that's how it is.
That's why this place is so valuable - people spend the time and effort to provide stuff HTC (and others) never intended you to have.
Gotta love XDA Devs
Good luck with your idea tho.

godutch said:
Of course it doesn't hurt to ask them for further support I think it is still to soon to say they won't support us. I think we will get an upgrade to gingerbread, maybe even with sense 2.0 (which I think is the biggest obstacle because the rom is so large otherwise it should run fine( and it does on my phone))
It took them 3 months to port froyo...
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Er..
It is too soon to have gingerbread.. of course it is!
But what about the messaging thing? Has it ever happened to you? It's kinda bothering to send something you wrote to your girlfriend and have it delivered to your boss.. Who knows he might like it or he might sue you for sexual harassment..
JK, but seriously, there's little things that should be fixed.
For example showing the sms you sent as a reply before the sms that originated the reply..
The ms exchange mail thing..
I believe they will take a while to give us 2.3 and we have to understand that Sense is a very good GUI (the best I've experienced so far..) because it is well programmed and tested. So HTC is just "protecting" their image by taking three months to port the new version of Android.
But look for example the case of Sony Ericson saying 2.1 is too good already and future updates shouldn't be expected.. Sure their costumers replied back.. and now they're getting 2.2 on some models.. (We'll see..)
My point here is that by requesting fixes and updates we are showing that we are satisfied costumers and want it to continue that way. So in a month or two, if there's no 2.3 for Desire maybe we can have this thread to show dis contempt..
(And by the way.. Sense 2.0 isn't that big of an obstacle.. it's already working entirely in Desire's NAND.. just have a look at some DHD ROMs ports to Desire in the Development section.. Saying that Sense 2.0 won't fit in Desire's NAND is saying that XDA has better chefs than HTC... lol )

cr1960 said:
We already have the first 2 on your list - look through the first 2 pages of the 'Desire Android Development' thread....
My experience is that HTC do whatever HTC want to do. They would much rather have you spend some more $$ on a new device than pour effort into updating/supporting your old one. Now I'm not saying that's how it should be, just saying that's how it is.
That's why this place is so valuable - people spend the time and effort to provide stuff HTC (and others) never intended you to have.
Gotta love XDA Devs
Good luck with your idea tho.
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Sorry.. forgot to put the 5th option on the poll
"Nahh.. it's good the way it is.."
(not saying it isn't.. )
I meant official updates dummy!!...

tiotempestade said:
Sorry.. forgot to put the 5th option on the poll
"Nahh.. it's good the way it is.."
(not saying it isn't.. )
I meant official updates dummy!!...
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I'm a results focussed kind of guy - official/unofficial who cares just as long as it works

Don't get me wrong, I'm also that focused. But if you end up with a bricked phone it kinda.. no longer works..

I was thinking that the DHD ports has sense running too.... so we just need HTC to allow us to connect to htcsense.com with a DHD port too!
I want the mail app fixed so it works with hotmail eas... surely its a small bug fix...
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App

Lothaen said:
I was thinking that the DHD ports has sense running too.... so we just need HTC to allow us to connect to htcsense.com with a DHD port too!
I want the mail app fixed so it works with hotmail eas... surely its a small bug fix...
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App
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DHD ports (with Sense 2.0) work in sense.com
It's just not officially available.. But you can try it..
I recommend Alex-V's DHD ROM..

This poll equates to the following:
"Hi BMW,
I bought a 3 series last year with a 2-litre engine and I now see you have a 2.5-litre engine. When can I book in my new engine?"
Bit extreme, I know, but HTC don't have to update the Desire to anything. They're a business and they release new phones with new software. We might get it, we might not

That can be true in car business. But smart phone making is different. And when you buy car you are not only buying finished product but in most cases also 1, 2, 3, 5 year guarantee that include replace car, tow service, help on road if yours car stops obedience. Bmw also has free maintenance for first 100.000km or 5 years. Every business has its rules. And we as buyers of smartphones we set them. So, i ll buy my next phone from company that will offer me at least 2 years of updates. Thats the reason i don’t buy samsung anymore. Hope i don’t need to search for new manufacture. I like htc. But updates are important to me.
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App

bubigrega said:
That can be true in car business. But smart phone making is different. And when you buy car you are not only buying finished product but in most cases also 1, 2, 3, 5 year guarantee that include replace car, tow service, help on road if yours car stops obedience. Bmw also has free maintenance for first 100.000km or 5 years. Every business has its rules. And we as buyers of smartphones we set them. So, i ll buy my next phone from company that will offer me at least 2 years of updates. Thats the reason i don’t buy samsung anymore. Hope i don’t need to search for new manufacture. I like htc. But updates are important to me.
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App
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Not just to you. HTC should provide the official updated, and although you can say that we already 'have' them, you shouldn't really have to root the phone to have them. A phone like our Desire ain't cheap, we should at least get HTC's service as well as the product. So far, we've had the product, and in most cases very good product, but the updates arn't here, which sometimes makes Nokia look better: me and other members sent them an e-mail regarding an update with kinetik scrolling etc, it happened withing a couple of weeks! Come on HTC, Nokia knows how to listen to its customers, so if you want us to stay loyal, you have to be loyal to us.
That is all. Good Bye.

tiotempestade said:
DHD ports (with Sense 2.0) work in sense.com
It's just not officially available.. But you can try it..
I recommend Alex-V's DHD ROM..
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don't you need a DHD serial number?
I don't have one

I'm fine with buying a new phone when the updates will no longer go on them.
I flashed my HTC Touch HD with WinMo6.5.3 to make sure it was updated when I found HTC wouldn't push out anymore updates... I'm just waiting for that point when HTC won't push any updates out, or they won't fit on anymore then I'll probably be rooting and flashing...
I purchased my Desire in about July 2010 for around £390 - that's the most I've paid for a phone and I don't intend giving it up just yet...

Lothaen said:
I'm fine with buying a new phone when the updates will no longer go on them.
I flashed my HTC Touch HD with WinMo6.5.3 to make sure it was updated when I found HTC wouldn't push out anymore updates... I'm just waiting for that point when HTC won't push any updates out, or they won't fit on anymore then I'll probably be rooting and flashing...
I purchased my Desire in about July 2010 for around £390 - that's the most I've paid for a phone and I don't intend giving it up just yet...
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However, some people can not afford to buy new phones, just make the most if what they've got, but HTC will not even do that! Okay, Froyo wasn't that bad for the unbranded devices, but why shoul our providers get the updates to brand them?! People who don;t know what branding is etc, will think that HTC is just not as good as other phones, Nokia for example- no barnding, and although there may be some on the case of the phone, no Software Branding. Therefore, updates are pushed a lot quicker!
Back to the point, people like me want to make sure that they get as much as they can for what we pay, and for that reason, I don't think that HTC is as helpful as they can be.
That is al. Good Bye.

Desire / Nexus S
If HTC makes an update ill buy desire if not ill buy Nexus S, maybe........maybe not......ohh i LOVE the htc sense and i want a phone with the sense so i wont buy Nexus S.......Maybe desire z? but it has the keyboard problems and i dont need a keyboard.....ill buy desire (the normal one) and ill flash a cooked rom with 2.3 and the new sense, if possible...

tiotempestade said:
(And by the way.. Sense 2.0 isn't that big of an obstacle.. it's already working entirely in Desire's NAND.. just have a look at some DHD ROMs ports to Desire in the Development section.. Saying that Sense 2.0 won't fit in Desire's NAND is saying that XDA has better chefs than HTC... lol )
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Creating an sd-ext partition is not something average users can be expected to do before upgrading to sense 2.0

godutch said:
Creating an sd-ext partition is not something average users can be expected to do before upgrading to sense 2.0
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Don't underestimate the power of the Dark side, Luke!
It's only a script.. if we lived in an utopia HTC would just release the next OTA with it..
data2sd, app2sd+ script can create the partition and even align it.. http://www.patriotmemory.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3696
Maybe even with reiserFS partitions for faster access, but I think the dev's are getting to the conclusion that not all SDs work well with reiserFS.. so EXT3

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HTC Confirms Desire 2.3 Plans

HTC Confirms 2.3 Desire Plans​
Bit of a news flash here, sorry if it's in the wrong section but this is more of an anser to an un-asked question, y'get me?
Anyway, HTC confirmed yesterday that they WILL be updating the current Desire range upto 2.3. This includes the Desire, the Z and the HD. Hope this helps with the concerns that HTC were ditching the Desire for the Desire S.
For the rest of the information, check out this page.
The link goes to CNET
*It's likely that rather than being 2.3, the Desire will be getting 2.4, which is the latest release from Google. This is no different from 2.3 but contains some very minor bugfixes.

Nice! A bit long to wait though.
Thanks for the info!

wow thanx for the great news! made my day
i hope its worth waiting

when we will get it?

cutiyar said:
when we will get it?
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Read the article.

expler said:
wow thanx for the great news! made my day
i hope its worth waiting
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no problem, I was randomly searching the Internet for any articles that could shed any light on the current Desire situation we are all going through, and I just happened to find that neat post that was only put on there today. Alas the Desire lives on, I guess with it being so popular HTC decided to make it, however I'm not expert but from a Market view of things, I seriously doubt Honeycomb will be coming to the Desire range, as none boast dual processors and with the update coming so late, it would be a large Market downside for HTC, why develop Honeycomb for a device that's waited 6 months for a 2.4 update... Anyway I'm just glad that within my first few days of being at XDA that I have been able to help people with the Desire information, I know I only sourced it, but this stops a lot of peoples worries, and it looks promising that we WILL be getting the new sense time for a beer I think xD

We re starting to feel just like the Xperia X10 users and their updates it all goes according to HTC's plan. Nevertheless its good to know we'll be getting the new sense and and Android.

radu_wizu said:
We re starting to feel just like the Xperia X10 users and their updates it all goes according to HTC's plan. Nevertheless its good to know we'll be getting the new sense and and Android.
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I think that the reaosn why it's taking so long really lies with Google. If they hadn't of had the 2.3 exclusivity with the Nexus S, then the chances are we would have our update much quicker. However HTC should be concentrating on Software just as much as new Products. Existing customers are just as important as potentially new Customers, and at the moment it looks like they are focusing their business on creating new products, and not updating the current ones. Not a good business plan at all.

with the way that our providers play about with it , as stated in the article it will be xmas before its out

I won't look forward to the update because waiting for updates ALWAYS dissappointed me in the past...

adz63 said:
with the way that our providers play about with it , as stated in the article it will be xmas before its out
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That's one of the benefits of De-branding. My HTC Desire came branded with the Orange software (which left me with 100MB of free space) I de-braded, updated to Froyo 2.2 and had something like 143MB of free space left, and whenever HTC release an update I immidiatley recieve it. My HTC has Orange logo's on it and everything, but it's de-branded.

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I won't look forward to the update because waiting for updates ALWAYS dissappointed me in the past...
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Waiting is rubbish, HTC need to seriously take a good look at Customer Loyalty, but i'll wait HTC Sense is the best thing about the Desire.

Bah that is a long ass wait. I think I shall stick with CM7.

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Bah that is a long ass wait. I think I shall stick with CM7.
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I know what you mean

honestly, this is good news but come on... everyone on this forum has already had it on their desire's since the start when gingerbread for nexus came out. there are so many roms out there, im not excited about this, i get excited about the awesome work the devs do here

Yes please!

ragdoll20 said:
honestly, this is good news but come on... everyone on this forum has already had it on their desire's since the start when gingerbread for nexus came out. there are so many roms out there, im not excited about this, i get excited about the awesome work the devs do here
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It's not the 2.4 update we can't wait for, its the new Sense, well in my case it is anyway. 2.3/4 isn't a very good update? It's a few icons and support for some other Hardware, Honeycomb should be interesting.

Can't wait!

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It's not the 2.4 update we can't wait for, its the new Sense, well in my case it is anyway. 2.3/4 isn't a very good update? It's a few icons and support for some other Hardware, Honeycomb should be interesting.
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You are aware that if the last OTA is anything to go by you won't be able to update without using an RUU? Even with a gold card

EddyOS said:
You are aware that if the last OTA is anything to go by you won't be able to update without using an RUU? Even with a gold card
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What do you mean mate? If it's OTA, than its not an RRU?

[CONFIRMED] Desire 2.3 update comes with sense 2.1!!!!

Hello everyone!
I just chatted with someone from HTC [HTC.com]
and i asked him if the 2.3 update for the desire comes with sense 2.1 of 3.0.
He told me it will come with sense 2.1!
If im done with the chat i will post the whole chat here!
chat log:
Customer Chat Chat Transcript
Please wait while we find an agent you are now connected helpen.U Dries.Dries: Hi Nick, thanks for contacting customer support from HTC. Currently I am here to read your question.
Nick: Good morning
Nick: Okay
Dries: What is meant exactly with your question?
Nick: I have a Desire
Nick: but I read some rumors about an update end of May
Nick: but I would like to clarify
Nick: And some say there is in sense or sense 3.0 2.1
Nick: So I thought I take a minute contact
Nick: Because I mean the HTC Wildfire S has the same memory as RAM and ROM which has Sense 2.1, so I thought why would not the normal Desire
Dries: I ask a moment. Please be patient if you please
Nick: Okay I wait
Dries: It comes with Sense 2.1
Nick: Wow I'm really happy!
Nick: And you also know when it comes around?
Dries: Unfortunately I can not say exactly when it will roll out this update, but was soon to begin.
Nick: Okay so before July?
Dries: I can assure you unfortunately.
Nick: Okay, because the earlier leaked test builds gingerbread still had a 1.9 older sense, but I am glad that my desire so with a recent version of sense comes
Dries: I understand that.
Nick: Well I know just enough until now
Nick: Thanks a lot for everything!
Dries: That is welcome. I can today somewhere else help?
Nick: Oh no it is enough
Nick: I wish you a nice day!
Dries: Thank you for contacting, I wish you a nice day.

Make sure they mean our Desire and not Desire HD, and also make sure if the old sense or the 2.1 sense..Just to be sure

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Make sure they mean our Desire and not Desire HD, and also make sure if the old sense or the 2.1 sense..Just to be sure
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just see yourself i think this is quite a deal
EDIT: im going to ask again for confirmation hahaha just to be sure (A), PS: the chatting is so funny lol..

Sorry to say this, but he probably mixed the desire with the desire HD, a regular mixup from HTC customer service rep's.
All indicates that the Desire is getting a modified Sense 1.9 update, with bits from the 2.0 Sense that came with the Desire HD release.
(ref the leaked test rom)
I refuse to jump with joy before I can see this with my own eyes ;-)

fregor said:
Sorry to say this, but he probably mixed the desire with the desire HD, a regular mixup from HTC customer service rep's.
All indicates that the Desire is getting a modified Sense 1.9 update, with bits from the 2.0 Sense that came with the Desire HD release.
(ref the leaked test rom)
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look at the chat... it would be stupid if he thinks a des HD cause the 2.3 update is already out.. so i dont think it will be a desHD
PS: im going to get confirmation to chat again but with someone else so stay tuned!! this time i will be clearer! and i wil post the chat log..

The thing is, the common appearance of the HTC customer service rep's are infact that they are..stupid. (read: missinformed or not informed)
They have a history of mixups and unfortunate statements about software updates and the big pool of HTC models out there. I'll trust my real estater before I trust HTC customer service again
But for your sake, I'll be positive. GO NUTS!

grate news thx

nickislauw said:
look at the chat... it would be stupid if he thinks a des HD cause the 2.3 update is already out.. so i dont think it will be a desHD
PS: im going to get confirmation to chat again but with someone else so stay tuned!! this time i will be clearer! and i wil post the chat log..
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perhaps suggest calling it the HTC Desire (BRAVO) ORIGINAL - not the Desire HD - Ace...
and/or make them say which model they are referring to, rather than you saying it

I still don't believe it. Until I see it on my Desire it won't exist

We will see it this month!

waiting for it hopefully.

Well, I tried the htc live chat on my country, and no one is available
Then, I tried with htc uk live chat, and this what happened:
Hi , thank you for contacting HTC Support. How may I help you today?
Customer: hi
Customer: I have an HTC Desire original, codename BRAVO
Customer: I would like to know, which version of htc sense will be implemented in the gingerbread 2.3 update
James: We are excited to announce that the HTC Desire will receive the Gingerbread (Android 2.3) update in Q2 2011. Stay tuned for details as we get closer to the update availability.
James: The HTC Sense Version will not be changed.
Customer: thanks, there is a release date?
James: Not as yet. We do not know.
James: Please stay tuned to our website.
James: All information will be on the support page.
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As usual, they don't know nothing, but he seems about sure that the htc sense will not change on our desire..who know..

andQlimax said:
Well, I tried the htc live chat on my country, and no one is available
Then, I tried with htc uk live chat, and this what happened:
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that is a lie, because in the leaked RUU's the htc sense version HAS changed.

nickislauw said:
that is a lie, because in the leaked RUU's the htc sense version HAS changed.
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Well not, the version is the same, is the old sense..they just add some things of the new sense
But in my opinion, all is possible, as the customer service don't seems to have much details on the update for our desire

andQlimax said:
Well not, the version is the same, is the old sense..they just add some things of the new sense
But in my opinion, all is possible, as the customer service don't seems to have much details on the update for our desire
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Well, we will just see it, i mean, thee wildfire S has got the same amount of ROM and LESS RAM then our desire and it got sense 2.1, so why wont they put it on desire?
Just wait till they roll out and hope the best.

andQlimax said:
As usual, they don't know nothing, but he seems about sure that the htc sense will not change on our desire..who know..
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they don't know nothing, so they do know something!

I dont really see the point of this as right now the "Sense" scene is all about Sense 3.0 which already has a working beta ROM in existence. Most Sense users are all using either InsertCoin, RCMixS or like me Reflex S which has Sense 2.1 + 3.0 features and most are stable.
When the Sense 3.0 ports are our of beta i bet that even if HTC do officially release this update, no one is really going to care.
The devs here have been rolling out updates faster than you can get used to the new version they just released yesterday.

I chatted today also with HTC and he said that de Update comes in Q2 - THIS MONTH! I asked him "Is this true? or will it be an desaster like the Hero update?" The Said: "No, it comes this month!"
The question of Sense 2.1 he answert with: "Desire will get Sense 2.1 but it can be with an later update! But the chance is big that it comes together"
He said this in german and i translated what he said quick and dirty

3f1f37 said:
I dont really see the point of this as right now the "Sense" scene is all about Sense 3.0 which already has a working beta ROM in existence. Most Sense users are all using either InsertCoin, RCMixS or like me Reflex S which has Sense 2.1 + 3.0 features and most are stable.
When the Sense 3.0 ports are our of beta i bet that even if HTC do officially release this update, no one is really going to care.
The devs here have been rolling out updates faster than you can get used to the new version they just released yesterday.
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The point is that there is probably a big HTC customer base that don't wanna root or flash custom roms. Actually I believe it's bigger than the custom scene. And this is their only hope for an update.
The XDA forum has become a place for any kind of Android fan for info and such, not for just developers and cooks.

fregor said:
The point is that there is probably a big HTC customer base that don't wanna root or flash custom roms. Actually I believe it's bigger than the custom scene. And this is their only hope for an update.
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+1
But who comes to XDA with a stock Desire and just looks at all the custom goodness and decides not to partake.
That's like going to a bar, buying liquor and just looking at it.
Purpose Defeated.

ROM SHIP with HTC SENSE 3.0 for Derside HD ??

I have a question : In future HTC will build ship rom with sense 3.0 for Dersire HD ? If you have information of Desire HD in next rom , please share . Thanks ALL .

Shouldn't this be in Q&A's.....

Hello.
From what I read everywhere on the net, HTC announced that the 3.0 Sense is not focused on DesireHD, and the reason is that the hardware is not powerful enough to maintain a good use of Sense. Apparently this would be true for single-core phones.
Arma.

It's well known from htc's Facebook page that they said they were looking at what Sense 3.0 features could be implemented into the DHD. Asking when or will the DHD ship with Sense is like asking how long is a piece of string. Most probably in the form of an update if at all.
I personally have more faith in dev's here on xda as they deliver what htc doesn't.
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HTC might official make a DHD specific sense 3.0 based rom but since they are going to release the SDK for sense 3.0 you could expect near perfect rom's from our dev's

HTC is building ships now? Great news!
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pattsy said:
HTC is building ships now? Great news!
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I wonder what kind, small speed boats, yachts, cruise ships, or maybe even navy contracts for battleships, destroyers, etc...

pattsy said:
HTC is building ships now? Great news!
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LMAFO i did'nt notice that

JSLEnterprises said:
I wonder what kind, small speed boats, yachts, cruise ships, or maybe even navy contracts for battleships, destroyers, etc...
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I was hopeing for super speed boats... Ill just keep my fingers crossed...
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im hoping for massive starships so we can conquer other planets in the name of HTC!!!

Armrhero said:
Hello.
From what I read everywhere on the net, HTC announced that the 3.0 Sense is not focused on DesireHD, and the reason is that the hardware is not powerful enough to maintain a good use of Sense. Apparently this would be true for single-core phones.
Arma.
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I personally think it's a business decision rather than a technical one. They need to push the sales of new flagship products, so it's very reasonable they add this feature only to newer ones.
As now many Sense 3.0 roms emerge, I don't think DHD is not powerful enough for it.
ywliu

cordell507 said:
im hoping for massive starships so we can conquer other planets in the name of HTC!!!
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and we could name them xdatron, etc hehehe ...let's see how many names we can come up with after xda ..(though i seriously think this is not the place for it heheh)

LOL dersire xand this is obviously in the wrong section....
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Probably not due to the fact they lied to us all and said "our devices will not be powerful enough to run sense 3.0"
which translates into, we are money grabbing bastards please buy a new phone.

i love the fact he spelt desire differently 3 times

Even if they release official sense 3.0 it will be working much better on custom roms + there are already custom roms with sense 3.0 =)

When , when , when , when

... sense 3.0 ...
At the beginning i was amazed of the stock rom of my dhd... Then i realised that there two million ways of getting connected to any not bothering me socialnetwork on the planet, only the one cool thing i wanted to use, was down due to maintenance every time i tried... HTCsensedotcom. I´m now on cm7 and i won`t go back to a sense Rom in the near future. I bet the DHD is powerful enough to run a 3.0 Sense Rom. Even on a simple desire it should run well with some optimisation, but htc doesn´t care that much, like ywliu said it's a business decision. Droping their own sales and spending menpower to optimize cool shiny new features for older devices?... nevermind