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Legend ROM port, better for our Heros instead of official 2.1?

Hi,
Most Hero ROMs try to port FriendStream, News and Live Wallpapers from the Legend/Desire to our Heros but wouldn't be better to just use a Legend port?
I've read about a few problems in the past, when we were still waiting for the official 2.1 update for the Hero and the Legend/Desire were just being released, about doing stuff like this that it would never be 100% like the current official 2.1 update for the Hero (well, it's not 100% either, but you know what I mean).
But now we have official RUU updates from the Legend (the most similar to the Hero of the new phones) we also have the source for the Hero 2.1 kernel, wouldn't that be enough to create a good and fully working port for the Hero? Wouldn't be better instead of using the official Hero 2.1?
I'm not as experienced as most devs here, that's why I'm wondering if this would be better and if there's some problem porting the Legend ROM that I'm overlooking...

No one has an opinion on this?

Nazgulled said:
No one has an opinion on this?
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There was this ROM called Legendroid, I don't remember who was the developer But the ROM was pretty fast and stable.

Dr.dre said:
There was this ROM called Legendroid, I don't remember who was the developer But the ROM was pretty fast and stable.
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Sure, but that doesn't really "answer my question"
I mean, we know have the source code for the kernel, which we didn't back then when such ROMs were released...
I'm wondering if that makes a difference...

Changing the kernel is not enough.

You could be more explicit...

I'm not a dev, but as a user I can say, that those were slow and battery sucker.
But if you do one what is speedy, uses battery at least as good as the official based ones, and it'll have more features....
Hero community will love you C:

liljom said:
I'm not a dev, but as a user I can say, that those were slow and battery sucker.
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I am pretty sure this was caused by the lack of the .29 kernel it should be better now.
Well I can't really see why a Legend ROM would be better than a Hero ROM, but I would like the News Reader Widget, I find it dumb how HTC wouldn't give the 2.1 Hero this widget but whatever.
OH btw don't take this as discouragement by all means go for it since most people ditched their Legend ROMs so if you can do it I don't see why not variety is good .

i thought the only problems transferring features from the legend ROM was the friendstream widget as everything else was ported over to normal Hero ROMs one way or another before the official 2.1 RUU came out.
it would obviously be easier to port the extra stuff from the legend ROM to the Hero ROMs

I don't think it would cause the Legend ROM has more things than the News and FriendStream widgets... For instance, the browser has quick actions for selected text which is cool, the mail widget has 3 variants (Hero's only have 1). And I'm sure there lots of other tiny little details...
It's a pain to port all these things one by one, it's just easier (I think) to port the whole thing with a Hero kernel (but I'm not the one to do it).
And I'm sure there are other "hidden" stuff that our Heros lack, it's just their way to differentiate their phones. It sucks for customers, but it's good for them.

Nazgulled said:
I don't think it would cause the Legend ROM has more things than the News and FriendStream widgets... For instance, the browser has quick actions for selected text which is cool, the mail widget has 3 variants (Hero's only have 1). And I'm sure there lots of other tiny little details...
It's a pain to port all these things one by one, it's just easier (I think) to port the whole thing with a Hero kernel (but I'm not the one to do it).
And I'm sure there are other "hidden" stuff that our Heros lack, it's just their way to differentiate their phones. It sucks for customers, but it's good for them.
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If we take a legend port suppose would you be able to modify the Hero kernal to work on the port with OC.

As I said, it is not only the kernel that needs to be changed. But... we already have a Legend port... Fallah

I don't want to be rude but cloud you please stop saying that changing the kernel is not enough without explaining why and/or what else is needed?
You're not being very helpful like that...
And that Legend port is not based on WWE, so it would be a no go for me.

Nazgulled said:
I don't want to be rude but cloud you please stop saying that changing the kernel is not enough without explaining why and/or what else is needed?
You're not being very helpful like that...
And that Legend port is not based on WWE, so it would be a no go for me.
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Have u tried asking the author of Fallah about it?

you guys got some response at least. good try.
my post in june just got rejected and ignored about the same exact thing
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=698053
should have free time in the coming months and i'm going to try make a legend port. i'm not a "dev" i know a little but i cant do what a lot of these guys do by any means. if its stable i might share
still use my G1 for random development as well as a magic 32b and now i got the desire i can try be brave and try out things on the hero.
logcat is your friend

There is a legend ROM on this Swedish forum. But the ROM should be wwe.
http://www.swedroid.se/forum/showthread.php?t=8217

Nazgulled said:
I don't want to be rude but cloud you please stop saying that changing the kernel is not enough without explaining why and/or what else is needed?
You're not being very helpful like that...
And that Legend port is not based on WWE, so it would be a no go for me.
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I tried using Legendroid 1.0.1 with Behnaam .29 kernal Ben 23 with OC, It works very well except for the Browser it lags a bit rest all is fine

Dr.dre said:
I tried using Legendroid 1.0.1 with Behnaam .29 kernal Ben 23 with OC, It works very well except for the Browser it lags a bit rest all is fine
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could you please add links to each post where we can download those two flashable files?
Also, has anyone tried fallah or the swedish rom yet? I downloaded them both just now but am running the just released updated cronos froyo rom right now and don't want to reflash until I've tested this baby thoroughly.
what I miss most about the old legend ports was the FAR superior text selector system with zooming etc. Is that part of these roms or was that a bit of a hack in the older roms? it sure was sweet....
It really should be part of android, but considering it's similar to the apple copy/paste concept, I'm wondering if there might be some patent infringement going on there which might explain why it's not used by HTC in other roms than the legend stuff. But that is just a rumor I pieced together myself so it's probably wrong.
anyway, it's the best text selector system on android. froyo's selector comes close but isn't still as good imho.

Azure465 said:
There is a legend ROM on this Swedish forum. But the ROM should be wwe.
http://www.swedroid.se/forum/showthread.php?t=8217
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It looks hacked with a different theme, I'm not very fond of that... Thanks for sharing though.
I might try to do a port myself when I get the chance, similar to the Nebulae (my own ROM) features and see how that goes...

Nazgulled said:
It looks hacked with a different theme, I'm not very fond of that... Thanks for sharing though.
I might try to do a port myself when I get the chance, similar to the Nebulae (my own ROM) features and see how that goes...
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i have ported a legend rom, newest ruu from shipped roms...
it works pretty good, exept wifi, need a modified libhardware_legacy.so, so it use the wlan.ko instead of tiwlan_drv.ko :/
have to make a alfa corner, so we maybe can work on the problems together...
but all that when i come back from my vacation...

Questions about ROMs

Hello, I am a complete newbie. I have only had my phone for about a week and a half, almost 2 weeks. Once the unrevoked team released the new fix to root my phone I wanted to check out a few things first.
I wanted to check out the ROMs that are available, maybe get some suggestions and etc. I guess my thing is, I like the way the normal stock is however I want to get rid of some bloatware apps that I have no use for at all. Here are some questions that I am running through:
What ROM is the closest to the stock version 2.2 but allows more customizations and is free of any bugs?
What are your recommendations to ROMs for a noobie?
Would I be able to design my own themes when using a ROM?
I think that is all I can think of for right now. But if you have some insight on something I should know, please let me know I would highly appreciate it.

I answer these with
1. Virtuous
2. Virtuous
3. You can but its not overly simple.
Virtuous is the stock rom but with fixes to give better life and it has the never needed stock apps removed with options to delete more preinstalled apps easily through virtuous buddy which is an app it comes with for easy customization of some things.
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Hello, I am a complete newbie. I have only had my phone for about a week and a half, almost 2 weeks. Once the unrevoked team released the new fix to root my phone I wanted to check out a few things first.
I wanted to check out the ROMs that are available, maybe get some suggestions and etc. I guess my thing is, I like the way the normal stock is however I want to get rid of some bloatware apps that I have no use for at all. Here are some questions that I am running through:
What ROM is the closest to the stock version 2.2 but allows more customizations and is free of any bugs?
What are your recommendations to ROMs for a noobie?
Would I be able to design my own themes when using a ROM?
I think that is all I can think of for right now. But if you have some insight on something I should know, please let me know I would highly appreciate it.
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Shorte85 said:
Hello, I am a complete newbie. I have only had my phone for about a week and a half, almost 2 weeks. Once the unrevoked team released the new fix to root my phone I wanted to check out a few things first.
I wanted to check out the ROMs that are available, maybe get some suggestions and etc. I guess my thing is, I like the way the normal stock is however I want to get rid of some bloatware apps that I have no use for at all. Here are some questions that I am running through:
What ROM is the closest to the stock version 2.2 but allows more customizations and is free of any bugs?
What are your recommendations to ROMs for a noobie?
Would I be able to design my own themes when using a ROM?
I think that is all I can think of for right now. But if you have some insight on something I should know, please let me know I would highly appreciate it.
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Virtuous is very good, and very close to stock (maybe a little too close). This is all opinion of course, the best thing you can do is try them for yourself. I recommend Skyraider Sense, it has a few added features and is super stable. I was one of the beta testers on this ROM and even in the pre-release stages it was very stable. It's fast, smooth and can be customized quite a bit. Also check out Chad's kernels, I have links for my setup in my signature if you want to check them out. The most important thing is to have fun and find something you enjoy. Happy tweaking

Everything come down to personal taste. Uncommon Sense has been bug free, I second Virtuous and would add Redemption to your list.
You should read each ROM's thread to see what people are saying about it. I realize that some of the Threads may have a few hundred pages of posts to read through, but it is well worth the time.
As you read through the threads, you will get a feeling for the developer, how they respond to queries as well as the members that are using the ROM.
I have been using ROMS created by Hey Its Lou (Redemption and Redemptive) exclusively now for about 6 weeks. He alsways seems to be releasing revisions as soon as he gets his hands on newly leaked code (as do some others).
As far as theming goes... It really depends on your ability to find the right tools and programs.

[Q] Best Daily Driver NON SENSE Rom

I think the title says it all....
I'm probably going to flash an ICS rom once they are out of Alpha.....
But for now.. thinking about moving over to plain jane Android... probably using ADW EX to theme it out like ICS (since ADW has the nice folder action)....
So people's opinion.. best NON SENSE Rom at the moment?
Latest Cyan? Bugless? The Kang'd one in the development thread? Another I don't know about?
Chime in... all opinions welcome (I would like to know "why" you are stating what you are though)...
p.s. no flaming others on this please It's purely opinions.. everyone is entitled...
p.s.s. any kernel advice is welcome as well

Seriously use Evervolv ICS rom preview 5. I am using it as my daily driver. I posted links to the rom, exchange.apk fix and gapps on rootzwiki. As I am not allowed to post links on xda at the moment you would have to go to rootzwiki.

What's not working on it? I take pics of my niece all the time (she's 4) so I need a working camera... don't care about video though....
Also I use this for navigation.... and part of where I drive is kinda crappy service.. so I have been using Navigon for those areas and the maps are on the SD card...
Also full bluetooth needed... as my car stereo has bluetooth and a mic behind the steering wheel....
edit: just tried.. and camera doesn't do panoramic.. only 4:3.... don't really care about video.. but want the other... so original question still exists.
Best NON SENSE Rom? Anyone?

I use Inc-Deck its a modified CM7, I think it feels a little less "fat" than cm7.
Bugless is also a stout option, either or.
Edit: To go back a ways OMGB is a solid rom, it was my daily for at least 2 months straight.

Got a link to Inc-Deck? I may be blind but I'm not seeing it in the development section... Mostly I want to get used to stock before a ICS build is ready for primetime...

NYC Coyote said:
Got a link to Inc-Deck? I may be blind but I'm not seeing it in the development section... Mostly I want to get used to stock before a ICS build is ready for primetime...
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1119857
It's tweaked just enough to make it feel a bit smoother than cm7 and it comes with the stock launcher. Also I'm not too sure about the bluetooth on this, I never use it but I haven't seen anyone complain about it.
Happy Flashing!

Give MIUI a try. I recently switched after using CM for about a year and am really happy with it. I think the ROM is much better than CM, although I hated the iPhone look to the ROM but I just use GO Launcher and go back to what my CM homescreens looked like. There are a few things I miss from CM, but overall really happy with MIUI

I flash a new rom about every day but cm9 has held me for a while so that would be my current daily that i would suggest to give a try to.

[Q] ROM questions

i know this will be something that you are probably already seek of reading but i really would like some answers.
I have a new desire z , i already did the tutorial to root and s-off the phone, now i would like to know what roms do you guys recommend me to install.
please give options for roms with and without sense.
thanks!

1) Whatever looks good to you
2) Whatever meets your performance/feature requirements.
Unless you specify what you are looking for in a ROM, its hard to narrow down. There are tons of these threads and the common answer is "try some".
Not trying to be a jerk, but it really comes down to what you want/like.

ok
is there any fully functional ics rom for the desire z?
and what is the best rom to use if i want a fast rom with htc sense?

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magno23 said:
ok
is there any fully functional ics rom for the desire z?
and what is the best rom to use if i want a fast rom with htc sense?
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Best ICS ROM i have used till now - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1492461 . Though this is also not fully functional.
I don't feel sense ROMs are fast enough :-/ But as biohazard said, it all depends on individual.

I've tried the ICS roms and I'm just not satisfied with them as a dailey driver yet. They'll get there, my biggest thing is the glitchy cameras. I'm excited for the time when ICS roms are 100% working.
I've tried just about all the roms out there, except sense 4.0. I keep finding myself going between CM7 and Virtuous Glite. I like the performance and customization of ILWT and I like the long battery of Glite.
I like that ILWT seems to be the only CM based rom that has a GPS fix.
I really like sense, but they're too laggy for me so far. Maybe, I just haven't found the right one?

The question of "what is the best/favorite ROM" gets asked a couple times a week. Just browse through this forum and you will find plenty of threads with opinions on ROMs.
As already mentioned, everyone has different needs and tastes. What is one person likes, may not be the best for you. Just do some reading, and you will find the benefits and features of the various ROMs, then pick one from there.

Just flashed this mod : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1495255
I love it, but having an issue with the wifi with 2.0.
Good luck!

magno23 said:
i know this will be something that you are probably already seek of reading but i really would like some answers.
I have a new desire z , i already did the tutorial to root and s-off the phone, now i would like to know what roms do you guys recommend me to install.
please give options for roms with and without sense.
thanks!
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Take a look at this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=916431 it has a list of very good ROMs.

i tried some roms with htc sense but they are a little slow for me.
what is the difference between CM7 and ILWT CM7?

magno23 said:
i tried some roms with htc sense but they are a little slow for me.
what is the difference between CM7 and ILWT CM7?
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Well, basically, ILWT is CM7 on steroids. Many optimizations for battery life/performance.

[Q] Most stable rom for the S3?

Ok, after trying a bunch of the cool roms on the board, I've decided to install something and forget about it. Been looking for a nicely tweaked and trimmed down version of the stock rom but can't find anything. The problem is, all of the ones I've tried have some kind of an annoying bug or missing functionality, that ends up being more annoying than it's worth. I dislike the TW launcher, but I guess it's a good trade off for a stable working phone. If there's a themed stock rom (all of touchwiz functionality) minus the kiddie icons, please let me know. I'm using the LiquidSmooth 2.5 official now, and I love this rom, but it has a few too many bugs that are very irritating. For example, the camera is junk. Can't focus if it's life depends on it. I keep getting all kinds of artifacts on screen when unlocking the phone, MMS doesn't work half the time and so on. An ideal rom would be something that looks like LS but functions like stock TW but I guess that's impossible.
So please recommend me a stock based rom. Even if it's just stock rooted with the bloatware removed it would be fine. Thank you so much for your time.
Edit: Forgot to add, phone is US AT&T

There is no most stable rom just stick with what works best for you. Not everyone has the same experience on a rom. This thread is going to be locked.

PaulG1488 said:
There is no most stable rom just stick with what works best for you. Not everyone has the same experience on a rom. This thread is going to be locked.
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Thanks for reading past the title.

gjvah said:
Thanks for reading past the title.
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Every ROM is going to have bugs, or things that dont work out.
thats why there is nighty releases of roms, to get most bugs worked out.
Theyre never going to be bug free because of the constant updates and features being added.
only true bug free is Touchwiz.
like the user above you said, you need too look for something that is stable for YOU.
a search would of let you figure this out, a search would of also pointed in the right direction on where to post questions.
this thread needs to be closed.

XDA is a site for development and what is best (stable) for one is not necessarily best for another, users need to test and read and learn on their own.