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What Phone Will Make You Ditch Your Touch Pro 2 For Good?

Ive Had My Touch Pro 2 For A Year And Some Change. Ive Had Some Fun Modding And Androidding It (LOL) But Its Time For Me To Move On To A Faster Phone That Will Take On WinMo 7 And Have A Business Phone On The Side. I Will Be Moving Over To The HTC Leo Forum (HTC HD 2) Next Week When T-Mobile Releases It And I Will Have A BB 9000 As My Backup.How Many Of You Are Moving On Soon? And To What Phone/PDA? Will You Keep Your Touch Pro 2 As A Backup? Yes? No? Why?

charlieb620 said:
Ive Had My Touch Pro 2 For A Year And Some Change. Ive Had Some Fun Modding And Androidding It (LOL) But Its Time For Me To Move On To A Faster Phone That Will Take On WinMo 7 And Have A Business Phone On The Side. I Will Be Moving Over To The HTC Leo Forum (HTC HD 2) Next Week When T-Mobile Releases It And I Will Have A BB 9000 As My Backup.How Many Of You Are Moving On Soon? And To What Phone/PDA? Will You Keep Your Touch Pro 2 As A Backup? Yes? No? Why?
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No matter what phone I move to and when, the one thing I'm going to hold on to is the keyboard from my TP2....I fully intend to frankenstein it onto any device I may use in the future
Point being....I won't be changing devices until (unless) somebody releases another WM unit with specs at least as strong as the HD2, AND a keyboard as good as the TP2's. 'Till then, I'll be happily thumb-dancing away, Rhodium-style!!

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sirphunkee said:
No matter what phone I move to and when, the one thing I'm going to hold on to is the keyboard from my TP2....I fully intend to frankenstein it onto any device I may use in the future
Point being....I won't be changing devices until (unless) somebody releases another WM unit with specs at least as strong as the HD2, AND a keyboard as good as the TP2's. 'Till then, I'll be happily thumb-dancing away, Rhodium-style!!
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Me And My Friend Was Talking Yesterday And He Said He Wants The Touch Pro 3 To Be The HD2 Screen/Specs With The Touch Pro 2 Keyboard. I Think That Would Make Me Come Back. But The Touch Pro 2 Is Not Fast Enough For Me. I Wish It Could Be Overclocked.

HTC Desire already preordered...
I'll certainly miss the awesome hardware keyboard and tilting screen.
Problem with the TP2 is not the hardware for me. It's just WinMo. I've been on this platform ever since my Touch Dual a couple years ago and I know it's very capable. But the platform is outdated.
I hope WinMo7 turns out to be as revolutionary as M$ claims it will be. In the meantime, I'll be jumping ship to Android for now...

The Nexus One did it. I sold my X1 for a tilt2 after the t-mobile only Nexus one was announced. It took about 45 minutes for me to pick up one of the AT&T Nexus Ones after it was announced today. I've been running Android recently to see how I liked it, and it wins for me over WinMo.

I'm willing to adopt any Windows Phone Series 7, keyboard or not. I say calm down on all the phones now, b/c the whole landscape as we know it will be changed by 1/1/11..
but yeah, this elusive TP3 would be nice..since a WPS7 phone can have a keyboard as seen by the LG, hopefully they're holding off for that..

im going to consider an hd2 in the future. i was thinking to get it much sooner, but ill wait a bit for the prices to come down. the tmo version has a really low price and should lower the price of the t9193. if i do, i will miss the keyboard and the speaker. but damn, that screen. it could make an iphone user commit suicide.

The Jack of Clubs said:
it could make an iphone user commit suicide.
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That could only be proven with thorough, extensive testing. And then more testing. In fact, here, let me give you a hand with that

I am actually considering the AT&T compatible Nexus One. If it had a keyboard I wouldn't have to even think about it.

I am torn between the HD2 and the Desire. I haven't given up on WinMo yet, although I am disheartened by what I have seen of Windows Phone 7.
I also have a Toshiba TG01 which, although a flawed device, has convinced me that my next phone must have a 1GHz Snapdragon or better.

HD2
I definitely need something with a little more processor, so I've been thinking about the HD2. I will miss the keyboard some, but I've got so used to using swype, I don't think I'll miss it that much.

I really like my TP2, but I've even more so loved the Android OS - even though it doesn't totally work. If I could get an Android OS phone, with front cam, back cam, wifi, BT, FM radio w/ RDS, and a physical kb, I'd sell the TP2 in a heartbeat. I'm so over the winmo OS, and the new microsoft version doesn't look any better. Android OS please!

I love my Rhodium tooooooooo much to move onto another device.
When the time comes to renew my contract I'll probably get an HD2.
But I'll use my Rhodium as a phone. And the HD2 as a toy

i like my tp2. but as soon as us cellular gets something with more speed and not windows 7. ill be jumping ship. prob to android. ive read all the findings at mix 10 on windows 7. and i will be goin to android. windows 7 looks great. but its lockd down. and all they stopped us from doing with it. its not worth the wait. so bye bye wmo.

T-Mo HD2 next week will be replacing my TP2 which replaced my G1 which replaced my Wing.
Looks like a 6 month cycle.

I wish VZW would come out w/ the HD2...I might go with the Nexus one or this thing:
http://www.phonearena.com/htmls/Saygus-Vphone-phone-pa_4463.html
I also like the HTC Incredible for vzw, it looks like HD2 hardware w/ android. Most likely i'll keep the keyboard and go w/ a saygus if anything (although chances are I wont get a new phone)

I keep looking at the Droid. Figure I'll wait a few months, see what shakes out with (if) the 6.5 update, and then move over to the Droid. I'm out of contract now with Sprint, and they don't seem particularly to care if people leave.

I am getting the HD2 for sure, I will keep my TP2 just to mess around with it but I have tested the Tmo HD2 a few times at my local store and I love it. I am just watching the time tick by until next Wednesday and I will be joining you in the NRG HD2 forum

TP3 only!!!!!!!!!!!!

I have until Summer 2011 before I can upgrade my Touch Pro 2, bear in mind though I kept my Tytn II for 3 and a half years because nothing else fitted form factor wise. I like the fact my screen tilts and the keyboard is phenomenal. It may be a while after my upgrade date it may not be, not forgetting that by then WP7 Series should have fixed all the alleged release issues such as no multi-tasking and no copy and paste, no side loading 3rd party apps, no full USB connectivity, no sd card loading......the list of faults with WP7 series so far is shocking.

[Updates]DISCUSSION: Latest News of WP7 and apps,Free WP7 device contest(link)

Discuss the latest news about WP7 and apps here...I'll keep updating this thread...browse the latest post for latest news...
Beware there are bugs and other issue in new HTC WP7 device, Jump to the latest post and read.
New,HTC 7 Mozart video recording Quality (720p).Youtube and download link provided.31seconds of video=30.8MB
http://www.1800pocketpc.com/2010/10/23/720p-video-capture-quality-on-htc-7-mozart.html
Flash coming WP7 confirmed by Adobe...http://wmpoweruser.com/flash-coming-to-wp7-devices-confirmed-by-adobe/
Great news: Free WP7 devices and Zune Pass. 6 prizes each week. Officially from Microsoft. For US users only...
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A complete review of WP7 and few apps review...pretty detailed and with screenies(Omnia 7)
http://arstechnica.com/microsoft/reviews/2010/10/windows-phone-7-the-ars-review.ars/
All ten new devices...my favourite: Dell Venue Pro
Check here...
http://www.engadget.com/2010/10/11/microsoft-announces-ten-windows-phone-7-handsets-for-30-countrie/
Most reviews can be found there,a good source about application of WP7
WP7 Apps: http://www.1800pocketpc.com/category/windows-phone-7-apps
WP7 games:http://www.bestwp7games.com/
72 Windows Phone 7 tips and tricks
http://www.pocket-lint.com/news/36413/72-windows-phone-7-tips
All devices spec comparison...http://www.engadget.com/2010/10/11/windows-phone-7-handsets-the-tale-of-the-tape/
More info in page 8 with pictures and specs...
Updates in latest posts...check it out
Browser based Marketplace(english version)
http://www.appsfuze.com/
How to build a WP7 application (for absolute beginner) Video tutorial,is a series like drama,step by step guides...cheers...everyone got talents.
http://channel9.msdn.com/Series/Win...nt-for-Absolute-Beginners/Series-Introduction
WP7 wiki for developers...
https://wp7dev.wikispaces.com/

I recently upgraded to the HTC HD2 and I am very happy with it now that I have upgraded to the Turbo3D graphics driver, Cookie Tabs, and done the performance registry tweaks.
After spending the cash on this device I hate to throw it away on another phone. I will wait till wp7 settles in a bit before moving over.

It really depends on what happens. If it has lots of quality apps, more freedom than iOS, and hardware and wireless providers not tampering with the OS, more than likely. Glad I'm not eligible for an upgrade for another year.

Intervenient said:
It really depends on what happens. If it has lots of quality apps, more freedom than iOS, and hardware and wireless providers not tampering with the OS, more than likely. Glad I'm not eligible for an upgrade for another year.
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In Poland it will be probably some months later.
I'm eager to try it. But that also depends on what upgrades they plan.
If the plan is to bring those big missing things I'll be happy.
But if not unfortunately Android is the only way.
Now observing and plan to stay half a year more with WM.

doministry said:
In Poland it will be probably some months later.
I'm eager to try it. But that also depends on what upgrades they plan.
If the plan is to bring those big missing things I'll be happy.
But if not unfortunately Android is the only way.
Now observing and plan to stay half a year more with WM.
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have a look...
http://www.visionmobile.com/blog/20...-tipping-the-scales-of-the-smartphone-market/
Cheers.

I will buy the htc Mozart!

The screen on my HTC Diamond cracked yesterday, so I'm going to have to upgrade whether I like it or not. Display still works and hopefully it'll hold up until the phones are out.
I'm hoping that Vodafone have some reasonable tarriffs, I don't really want to go above £25 a month really. Hopefully the OS is working properly straight out of the gate and all of my old WM syncs straight across.

From what I've seen of WP7 so far, I don't think I'll bother.
Saying that though, if it ends up working really well when it's released, I might change my mind

My Fuze is dying. It has had a nice run but really needs to be replaced now. I am not thrilled about the first three handsets that appear ready to be released by att so I may end up getting one as a stopgap and then buying another as the gen II's roll out in Q1 2011. I want the OS to succede so I really do not have a major problem with buying two in three months. I'll give the first to my son.
What I'd ideally like:
1.3 GHz processor
Slider qwerty keyboard
16 or 32 Gig internal memory
8mp camera
>3.8 inch screen

For Aussies here. Was talking to a Telstra personel in the main Sydney store opposite Apple store, and he said that he heard that they would be definitely getting the HTC Mondrian, and that the HD3 will officially be called HD7 (Tho did not say whether we'd get it)
Release date, he said it was originally end of this month, then 8th November.
Honestly, I think he's just been reading tech news. Cus the only dates thats been said online were 11th Oct (official release), 21ist Oct (Euro release) and 8th Nov (US release), and cant remember the 8th Nov being pushed back date.
Anywho, he said realistically expect the phones to come out in 2-3months... which suck cus I was expecting Australia to get it before anywhere else (a rumour i read online).
Was thinking of moving to Telstra from vodafone, because Ive heard NextG murders all the other telco's in speed and coverage... But if I'm forced to wait that long, I might just get a sammy device on ebay once it becomes available, tho it'll most likely only support the 900mhz band (voda, 3 and optus).

Cruzer1 said:
For Aussies here. Was talking to a Telstra personel in the main Sydney store opposite Apple store, and he said that he heard that they would be definitely getting the HTC Mondrian, and that the HD3 will officially be called HD7 (Tho did not say whether we'd get it)
Release date, he said it was originally end of this month, then 8th November.
Honestly, I think he's just been reading tech news. Cus the only dates thats been said online were 11th Oct (official release), 21ist Oct (Euro release) and 8th Nov (US release), and cant remember the 8th Nov being pushed back date.
Anywho, he said realistically expect the phones to come out in 2-3months... which suck cus I was expecting Australia to get it before anywhere else (a rumour i read online).
Was thinking of moving to Telstra from vodafone, because Ive heard NextG murders all the other telco's in speed and coverage... But if I'm forced to wait that long, I might just get a sammy device on ebay once it becomes available, tho it'll most likely only support the 900mhz band (voda, 3 and optus).
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Hey,mate, what you heard is true?from birsbane here...If what you heard is true,I'm extremely excited now...I thought we have to wait until early2011...
Besides, what I suggest that,you can buy the phone from Telstra outright,but never switch to their network...I'm currently using telstra HTC HD2 NEXT G. The bills from Telstra is a killer....LOL...I'm regret now,plan to switch to either optus or three...but still under the contract...sob...

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Hey,mate, what you heard is true?from birsbane here...If what you heard is true,I'm extremely excited now...I thought we have to wait until early2011...
Besides, what I suggest that,you can buy the phone from Telstra outright,but never switch to their network...I'm currently using telstra HTC HD2 NEXT G. The bills from Telstra is a killer....LOL...I'm regret now,plan to switch to either optus or three...but still under the contract...sob...
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Not sure, he couldnt really confirm anything only from what he's heard, but like i said, I reckon he's just been reading online news. Telstra is an official partner of WP7, so we're definitely getting it, but probably exclusively through them for a few months (as was with most HTC products that officially get released here)

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Not sure, he couldnt really confirm anything only from what he's heard, but like i said, I reckon he's just been reading online news. Telstra is an official partner of WP7, so we're definitely getting it, but probably exclusively through them for a few months (as was with most HTC products that officially get released here)
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Oh,I see...Ok, Thanks a lot ya...Actually I got a better option for HTC devices, which is Dell lightning. If you love portrait keyboard, you will like it. This device is freaking sexy...

sylau90 said:
Oh,I see...Ok, Thanks a lot ya...Actually I got a better option for HTC devices, which is Dell lightning. If you love portrait keyboard, you will like it. This device is freaking sexy...
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Yep I've seen that, I love the design, but not a fan of the portrait keyboard, plus its abit too thick for my liking and supposedly the Dell wont be one of the first few handsets to come out (might be in the second wave of handsets first half of 2011. I've got my eyes on the Omnia7 which might be a WP7 version of the Galaxy S, and hopefully be released this year.
Only about 8 more days til WP7's official release in london, so hopefully devices will be confirmed then . I'm still gonna hope for the sammy to have a hummingbird processor, or the HTCs to somehow have the Adreno 205 GPU. Fingers crossed.

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Yep I've seen that, I love the design, but not a fan of the portrait keyboard, plus its abit too thick for my liking and supposedly the Dell wont be one of the first few handsets to come out (might be in the second wave of handsets first half of 2011. I've got my eyes on the Omnia7 which might be a WP7 version of the Galaxy S, and hopefully be released this year.
Only about 8 more days til WP7's official release in london, so hopefully devices will be confirmed then . I'm still gonna hope for the sammy to have a hummingbird processor, or the HTCs to somehow have the Adreno 205 GPU. Fingers crossed.
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Haha,yea...same here,finger crossed and wait for my Dell lightning. Hope it won't use the first gen processor...either second gen or third will do...or maybe 1.3ghz...lol

When the TP2 (Tilt2 for me) was released, I bought one the first day I was able. I am running the recently released OEM ROM and this has been the best device I have ever owned. I am very happy with my Tilt2.
There are several issues which will need to be proven incorrect or resolved predicating that I maintain a wait-and-see posture. Some of these will be deal breakers. In inverse order of importance they are:
Rumored incompatibility with Outlook – Contacts, Calendar, and Notes!
Rumored inability to tether – I frequently use the Tilt2 as a modem for my laptop.
Not having a removable SD card
Downward compatibility – will the OS run WM6 programs, or will I have to find/research/purchase all new software programs.
I’m not certain I am ready to give up my hard keyboard yet. I’d like to see a “TP7” – something with a hard keyboard, and larger CPU and display.
I will be cautiously researching these issues for remedies or suitable work-arounds prior to investing in this technology.
Dave

XATAGuy said:
When the TP2 (Tilt2 for me) was released, I bought one the first day I was able. I am running the recently released OEM ROM and this has been the best device I have ever owned. I am very happy with my Tilt2.
There are several issues which will need to be proven incorrect or resolved predicating that I maintain a wait-and-see posture. Some of these will be deal breakers. In inverse order of importance they are:
Rumored incompatibility with Outlook – Contacts, Calendar, and Notes!
Rumored inability to tether – I frequently use the Tilt2 as a modem for my laptop.
Not having a removable SD card
Downward compatibility – will the OS run WM6 programs, or will I have to find/research/purchase all new software programs.
I’m not certain I am ready to give up my hard keyboard yet. I’d like to see a “TP7” – something with a hard keyboard, and larger CPU and display.
I will be cautiously researching these issues for remedies or suitable work-arounds prior to investing in this technology.
Dave
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The internet tether function already confirmed here,It'll not available at launch,but it'll add in via update...
http://www.wmexperts.com/director-windows-phone-7-confirms-tethering-support

as soon as verizon releases a htc wp7 with a keyboard and a big touch screen ill be getting one

My Tilt needs to be put to rest, I plan to get the HTC Mondrian. Even though I was expecting better specs, such as a newer processor and front facing camera, the phone is a major upgrade from my current one. I do remove my SD card a lot, but not having one is something I can deal with and same with the amount of storage. But overall, I'm looking forward to the phone and OS.

Cruzer1 said:
For Aussies here. Was talking to a Telstra personel in the main Sydney store opposite Apple store, and he said that he heard that they would be definitely getting the HTC Mondrian, and that the HD3 will officially be called HD7 (Tho did not say whether we'd get it)
Release date, he said it was originally end of this month, then 8th November.
Honestly, I think he's just been reading tech news. Cus the only dates thats been said online were 11th Oct (official release), 21ist Oct (Euro release) and 8th Nov (US release), and cant remember the 8th Nov being pushed back date.
Anywho, he said realistically expect the phones to come out in 2-3months... which suck cus I was expecting Australia to get it before anywhere else (a rumour i read online).
Was thinking of moving to Telstra from vodafone, because Ive heard NextG murders all the other telco's in speed and coverage... But if I'm forced to wait that long, I might just get a sammy device on ebay once it becomes available, tho it'll most likely only support the 900mhz band (voda, 3 and optus).
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Cruzer,
At least you have Telstra Staff that are reading and know about these phones! Here in Brisbane it's shocking. They either know about them and have been told not to tell anyone about them or they just plain don't know anything!
I even had one guy in the City Store plain out lie to me cause he had know idea at all, saying Nokia had a model coming (N8) which was what Telstra was stocking at launch and that all current WinMo 6.5/6.1 phone could get an update. LOL! Just told him he had no idea and walked off!
-Lucus

Orange choices

I can't be the only person facing this choice...
I need to replace my aging HTC Touch HD (Blackstone) as my contract expires the end of this month.
I have the choice of the Omnia 7 and HTC Mozart.
I was originaly leaning towards the Mozart but having seen a few reviews now the Omnia seems to be a possibly better bet.
There are conflicting opinions of the camera on the Mozart, some say it's great others saying it's not as good as the Omnia's 5MP job.
The screen does look beautiful on the Omnia but I just don't know. Maybe people having the same dilema as me or those who have made the choice already could add their opinions to aid me and possibly others!
Many thanks!

I had the same dilemna yesterday. My Touch Pro 2 broke and my phone insurance offered to try and get a replacement or offer me the cash (£360!!).
I looked at the Mozart and the Omnia and have opted for the Mozart. Spec wise they seem very similar, but I think the Mozart seems a bit sturdier. It is arriving on Tuesday!

Definitely go for the Mozart. The Galaxy S left a bad taste in my mouth. HTC build quality > Samsung build quality.

I like the Samsung built phones but HTC built phones are also good.
I would just look at the specs / battery life / display / extras etc.
That way you can find one that suits your needs.

The Samsung looks better, especially because the display blends well into the phone frame.
However considering how text and contrast heavy the WP7 UI is, the Pentile pattern in AMOLED isn't exactly optimal for sharpness. At least I can make the color fringing on texts as well as the gritty Pentile pattern in images out rather well (I guess having not yet bad eyes helps). Right now I have a Nexus and can make things out, a larger display will worsen it for me personally.
So I'm making the compromise and go for a HTC device with SLCD (Trophy tho, not the Mozart).
Also, in the end, the hit on the battery will be generally less, seeing how browsing is a major activity, and that most websites have white or bright backgrounds, without AMOLEDs power draw in play. Samsung has a bigger battery tho.

I went for the Mozart as the Omnia's screen is a little too large for me. It's due for delivery Monday but I won't get it until Tuesday or Wednesday as I'm not at my Billing Address.

Thanks for the input.
One of the concerns I had was regarding the build quality of the Samsung model since it hasn't really been their strong point on previous handsets.
I read different opinions on the casing of the Omnia 7, mostly saying it is much improved.

I got the Omnia 7 from Orange yesterday build quality is good and the screen is awsome... Free on 18 month contract £35 per month.... So will have the option to upgrade again Jan 2012 (after 15 months)........ Had no crashes so far!!

ebzrascal said:
I got the Omnia 7 from Orange yesterday build quality is good and the screen is awsome... Free on 18 month contract £35 per month.... So will have the option to upgrade again Jan 2012 (after 15 months)........ Had no crashes so far!!
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A question regarding the camera on the Omnia. Reviews have stated the flash is overpowering and not that useful. However I assume since it's LED it means that it can be turned on costantly for use on video recording and could double up as a torch.. something the Mozart with a xenon cannot do?
Thanks

I'm in exactly the same boat. I've been holding off upgrading for 4 months now to see how WP7 pans out. Would like to stay with Orange but this isn't a requirement.
I wanted to ask, has anyone actually tried the phones out before buying? Are the phones in the shops yet? I haven't got down to one yet (my second son was born yesterday, so I have a good excuse), so don't know. I don't think I'd want to commit to 18 months (at least) without trying the hardware out first.
And of course, there's always the HD2, sorry HD7 on O2. Like a mini-tablet, only fits in your pocket, unlike a Streak. I'll need to try this one out too.

Having spoken to Orange they aren't offering particularly good options with regards to renewing so I did look around. However what I was offered is still better than O2 will do so the HD7 was out for me.
The LG on Vodafone didn't really inspire me nor did the Trophy.
I wish the Venue Pro (Lightning was such a better name) was offered on a carrier.
I'm heading into town tomorrow so was going to ring up my local Orange shop to see if they had either handsets in stock so that i could have a play with them.
Another thing I was curious about that had been raised in other posts was if the Omnia had Gorilla glass as with the Galaxy. That would be a real plus point for me as i do worry about having such a big screen after managing to crack my Touch HD even though i treat my phones with great care.

mtb_baz said:
I'm in exactly the same boat. I've been holding off upgrading for 4 months now to see how WP7 pans out. Would like to stay with Orange but this isn't a requirement.
I wanted to ask, has anyone actually tried the phones out before buying? Are the phones in the shops yet? I haven't got down to one yet (my second son was born yesterday, so I have a good excuse), so don't know. I don't think I'd want to commit to 18 months (at least) without trying the hardware out first.
And of course, there's always the HD2, sorry HD7 on O2. Like a mini-tablet, only fits in your pocket, unlike a Streak. I'll need to try this one out too.
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Been with Orange for what seems like a life time and like you I'm also out of contract and looking for a suitable replacement. I actually jumped ship and went to o2 (for the best part of a day). I got the HD7 for £45 a month on a 24 month contract which includes insurance. I had to pay £49 for the handset though but to be honest I really didn't feel comfortable leaving Orange were I was paying £35 a month (which includes insurance) for less minutes...
Again being totally honest, the HD7 is a beast of a phone. Compared to my Blackstone (which I've flashed the hell out of) the HD7 is just stunning. The large screen and handset quality easily gives you bragging rights ahead of any phone. It just seemed to work out of the box but strangely enough, something just didn't feel right. Maybe it was the big screen that I used to drool over. Maybe it was the fact I had to leave Orange. Maybe it was the fact that I couldn't flash my phone no more. I just don't know. Because of these reservations, I reluctantly returned the phone (still in shock I did this). I've decided to give WP7 another chance and I have ordered the Samsung Omnia7 on Orange, which is free of charge on a 18 month contract for £35 a month, 600min and unlimited internet. The phone arrives on Monday and I will certainly give it a good try. The reviews I’ve read are encouraging so I’m keeping an open mind. If I still have any doubts about the phone, I’ll return it and wait for the Desire HD on Orange.
For me the jury is still out for WP7. Don't get me wrong, it very user friendly and intuitive, however my only concern is that the operating system has been completely locked down like the Iphone. Simple tasks like syncing with outlook and mass storage access through explorer is a thing of the past. For me, it’s a change of mindset. I’m cool with this but old habits die hard.

Can I just say to everyone considering a trophy...
Please go and check it out with your Hands!
It's a piece of plastic junk after seeing it in a vodafone store... it's definitely the super budget WP7...
Also take note the screens on Trophy and Mozart are different, the Mozart's being 0.1" less but a much better quality display to my eye!
Just talk with Orange, they are doing great deals on the Mozart, please get that instead of a trophy!
Also if you want OLED, Omnia 7 has a metal wrapped back... it's quite solid, there's no creaks! It's sexy.

Yeah even HTC says the HTC Trophy is their bottom of the line "budget" WP7 device. Not saying it's bad, just that it's meant to be the budget phone.

Phone Titan said:
I like the Samsung built phones but HTC built phones are also good.
I would just look at the specs / battery life / display / extras etc.
That way you can find one that suits your needs.
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I think he should only worry about exras, consiering all 1st gen phones are the bare minimum microsoft outlined
I mean, come on. Why didn't sammy put a hummingird in the omnia to atleast make it stand out a lil more?
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I think he should only worry about exras, consiering all 1st gen phones are the bare minimum microsoft outlined
I mean, come on. Why didn't sammy put a hummingird in the omnia to atleast make it stand out a lil more?
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Because MS told them not to, they're strict. And that's good for us.. we all know how Sammy screwed up galaxy s (maybe they'll fix it now - in november rls..NOT)

went into my local Orange shop today.
They don't have any Mozarts in and won't for a few days. They don't know when the Omnia is coming in and said only a limited number are available in the country.
So no new insights gained! I may just plump for the Omnia and if i don't like it i can return it for the Mozart.

What's the price difference between the Mozart and the Trophy... if its a budget wp7 phone?

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What's the price difference between the Mozart and the Trophy... if its a budget wp7 phone?
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Orange don't have the Trophy at the moment it's on Vodafone.
I have a leaflet here from Vodafone store:
FREE HTC 7 Trophy
- 300 minutes
- Unlimited standard UK Texts
- 500MB of UK Web access
£25 a month on a 24-month agreement
Same tariff on Orange
HTC Mozart
- 300 minutes
- Unlimited standard UK Texts
- 500MB UK Web Access
£25 a month on a 24-month agreement
Plus £100 handset cost.
(Or free on a more expensive tariff)
£100 over 2 years remember is £4.17 a month

I'm on the verge of ordering the Omnia I think.
Looking at reviews the camera picture quality seems better on the Omnia than the Mozart, likely due to Samsung having better camera hardware than HTC. I know the camera on my HD is attrocious.
It's so difficult to decide as there is so little between the launch hardware. I like HTC as a company as my Blackstone has been superb, just there is nothing stand out on the Mozart for me really...
Gutted that the Orange stores didn't have any in to play with though. In the past there have been clear choices, such as the Touch HD vs Xperia X1 was any easy decision for me.

Windows 7 Phones

Who makes the best one. I bought a dell venue pro to play but i'm not expecting it to be near as good as the adds say. so when my contract is up, what would be the recommended top suggestion?

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Who makes the best one. I bought a dell venue pro to play but i'm not expecting it to be near as good as the adds say. so when my contract is up, what would be the recommended top suggestion?
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I had an HTC HD7 and felt it was the best one. I now have a Samsung Focus.. has the SAMOLED...and after the AT&T update...included the WP7 update and Samsung firmware update...I feel the Focus is now the best one.
But, as always is the case, you will just have to sample them for yourself to determine which one suits you best.

If you're coming from an iPhone or something with a small screen and you like small screens...hopping to Sprint and getting the Arrive would be an easy transition because of its 3.6 in screen. I think all the other WP7 phones are 4in or more...Now having said that, if you want your mind blown away...go with a Samsung device. You won't be able to look at another phone's screen the same way anymore. I heard the Venue Pro was the bees knees too, but I came from an Epic 4G and that screen was just breathtaking so the Focus would probably be better.

LG has sub-4" screens.

If you are interested I can trade you my HTC HD7 for your Venue Pro. PM me if so.

WP7 phones coming to Sprint?

Anyone know of any upcoming WP7 phones coming to Sprint... WP7 becomes more and more appealing everyday, love to know if anyone has seen anything that has been leaked.
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Anyone know of any upcoming WP7 phones coming to Sprint... WP7 becomes more and more appealing everyday, love to know if anyone has seen anything that has been leaked.
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haven't heard of anything man... im on Sprint too, anxious to see what next gen devices we get.

Nothing new for this year.

Too bad whatever phone they do get will be crippled by the extremely slow network. Its soo terrible trying to do anything on it before 2am. I'm cancelling my contract with them this week and going to t-mobile. I've had enough.
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T mobile is no better. I've actually had a better experience with Sprint
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Look in a web search there's millions of complaints of slow speeds with sprint, especially on their forums. Can't say the same for Tmobile it was declared the 2nd fastest network by PCMag only being beaten by VZs 4G LTe.
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Well hopefully I can get the Nokia ace on tmobile
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T mobile is no better. I've actually had a better experience with Sprint
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Yeah, I'd disagree with that... T-Mobile has been waaaaay better in regards to Sprint in my area at least. I tether my Sprint iPhone to my T-Mobile Android phone when I want good speeds, lol!

http://www.sprintfeed.com/2011/12/r...t-three-windows-phones-in-first-half-of-2012/
This is the only rumor I know saying sprint will get new windows phone.

Sprint is so busy trying to hang from the ball sack of the iPhone; for some reason they went the route of Verizon with promoting their Android phones and now iPhone, like Verizon they only have one Windows Phone and don't promote it much. WTF is next? Sprint will start trying to ditch Windows Phone?

Tmobile may work good in your area. But where i olive its terrible and many other people in my area agree. But it has to be the worst cell phone provider in my area that I've experience.
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I want a Windows Phone bad, but the arrive has been out to long and is the only option available on sprint. I really hope that some new windows phones come to sprint soon. Would love to see Nokia 900 come to sprint.
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I want a Windows Phone bad, but the arrive has been out to long and is the only option available on sprint. I really hope that some new windows phones come to sprint soon. Would love to see Nokia 900 come to sprint.
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Yeah I'm really hoping Sprint gets a new windows phone.Hopefully it wont just be one with 1GHZ Process(like the radar) and will be 1.4ghz or 1.5ghz.

I've been sitting on a upgrade since April of 2011. All I want is either a 4" plus Samsung or HTC phone and I will sign a new contract on the first day.

Somehow, I got got the itchy feeling that more than one new Windows Phones are coming to Sprint.

I would not sleep on the Arrive if you can pick one up for a good price like I did on EBay. I am one that started with the first iPhone when it came out and eventually made my to Android and swore by it ever since. I currently have the Motorola Photon 4G but was really interested in taking a Windows 7 phone for a spin so I picked up the Arrive. Man the Arrive is faster than my Photon. Now yes I do not get 4G with the Arrive but I can barely get 4G anyway. These Mango phones are awesome. It also came down to since someone brought up age that I really needed workwise to stop dicking around with gaming ability and the number of apps available (I can use my Asus TF for that ) and look at smartphone functionality. If your in business like myself the Windows phone is the way to go and the HTC Arrive is a damn good phone for now. You can find them off contract for great prices to get you by until the new hardware hits the street.

I love my Arrive so much that I picked up one for my girlfriend for a penny during the holiday sales and got a cheap used one from eBay with a bad ESN so my daughter could use it as an over-glorified Zune. With that being said, I wouldn't hesitate to upgrade if a newer unit was released with a larger screen and more storage. I could care less about processor speed since WP7 seems to run equally well on all current hardware.

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I love my Arrive so much that I picked up one for my girlfriend for a penny during the holiday sales and got a cheap used one from eBay with a bad ESN so my daughter could use it as an over-glorified Zune. With that being said, I wouldn't hesitate to upgrade if a newer unit was released with a larger screen and more storage. I could care less about processor speed since WP7 seems to run equally well on all current hardware.
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Yeah I also have the HTC Arrive(Got it in April) and love the phone so much.But I have a upgrade in March 2012 and really want a window phone with more storage(I also use my htc arrive as a zune player and with only have about 6gb left).

I have the arrive as well, I love the phone other than a few bugs that it has.
I really want something thinner, with a bigger screen and no keyboard. The on screen keyboard works great.

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I have the arrive as well, I love the phone other than a few bugs that it has.
I really want something thinner, with a bigger screen and no keyboard. The on screen keyboard works great.
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I actually love that the Arrive has a keyboard.The perfect windows phone for me would be a 4 inch screen with a full qwerty keyboard.Basically a windows phone version of the Samsung Captivate Glide.