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Even though I'm posting in the Evo section of a mainly rooting community, I was hoping someone could provide a little insight onto my situation. Perhaps there is a Sprint representative on these forums who can better assist me as well.
So I purchased a new Evo June 20th after coming from 3 years of using the iPhone. I love the phone, but I've had nothing but issues with it. It's less the phone itself and more the companies surrounding it - Radio Shack, Sprint, etc.
So like I stated before, I got my Evo on June 20th. After using it a few days I noticed I had terrible signal at home. Normally if I was using the phone for personal reasons only, I could live with it, but I do work 1-2 days per week from home so not having voice service is a pretty big deal to me. After about 7-9 of fighting with the signal loss while walking around my home looking for a sweet spot (Also while on the phone with Spring customer service) They told me it was probably my home or area and that they couldnt guarantee coverage everywhere. My issue with this is, I've test all the carriers in my home. ATT, Tmobile, and Verizon get a minimum of 3 bars in my house. I dont like out in the middle of nowhere, I live in the suburbs of Houston. All other carriers penetrate into my home just fine, except Sprint. Well after arguing with Sprint reps over and over, I finally decided to take it to the Sprint store.
After waiting in a terribly long line (45 min), I was finally speaking to a Sprint rep. I told them about my issues and asked if there was anything I could do. He stated there was a booster that was $99. I flat out denied this as I thought it was ridiculous I had to pay more money just to get voice signal (something that was shown to be EXCELLENT coverage in their computers). He played with the phone for a second, then stated that an update would be coming out shortly that would improve the Wifi, 4G, and radio of the phone. The rep suggested that I was still within my 30 day cancellation period and that I should wait for the update and see if that improved anything.
So, a few short days later I got the OTA message on my phone. Well, this turned out to be a huge mess because I ended up being one of those unfortunate people who had their phones bricked. So at this point I'm phoneless and very frustrated. I take the phone back to where I purchased it, Radio Shack, and they tell me they've seen other customers who had this problem and will gladly exchange the phone for me. The manager of the store states it should be here on Friday, so I say thank you and leave.
Well, the phone didnt come Friday. It didn't even come the next Friday. Yep, it came THREE Friday's later - almost 3 full weeks later. So after not having a phone for two and a half weeks, I finally get my new phone in. The radio shack rep applied the update for me in the store and I left.
Well the weekend went by and I didn't notice any dropped calls, but I wasn't using my phone heavily. Then yesterday I was working from home and my phone was finally getting put to its full use. Call after call dropped and I couldn't even hold a signal for more than 10 minutes. I eventually had to run next door and borrow a neighbors phone to finish up my convo with a client. Normally I could live with this issue for personal use, but for work it was becoming a serious problem.
So I called Sprint and explained the situation. Eventually after sitting on the phone for an hour and talking to person after person I spoke with a manager who basically said either buy the $100 booster or pay $200 to cancel your contract and leave. At that point I was furious - I didn't understand why I should be forced to pay more for something when I was already paying for signal. I explained that I originally had planned on returning the phone earlier, but that had held off at the advice from a Sprint rep I talked to, and that my phone had been broken for over 2 weeks of my 30 day trial period. She continued to iterate that there was nothing she could do. She instructed me to contact Radio Shack and see if they would accept the phone back after 30 days (I'm on day 34 right now).
I just spoke with Radio Shack but they stated I'll need to call back when the manager is in the store - which will be 3-4 hours from now. I suppose maybe I'll get lucky and I'll be able to return the phone - but I'm worried about what will happen if they refuse. I'm going to be stuck with a phone that is unusable for work, while forced to either pay $100 for a booster, or shell out another $200 for the ETF (screwing me out of $400 total).
Anyways, maybe there is nothing that can be done, maybe I'm just an idiot for not testing the phone more aggressively sooner. I'm just sharing my experience on here with the hopes that someone has come across a similar situation or perhaps someone with a Sprint customer service background.
TLDR - got an evo, noticed bad signal, Sprint said OTA would fix the issues, OTA broke phone, waited 2 weeks for replacement, tested phone, reception still suck, Sprint says im stuck.
Wow, that sucks. Sorry to hear that.
I'm curious...you do get to keep the phone if you pay the ETF, right?
If you do, I would pay the $200 ETF and sell the phone on ebay or craigslist because I really doubt the $100 booster is going to help much and with the EVO in short supply, I'm sure someone is willing to buy it.
PS: If you do, just be sure to do a factory reset so all information is erased from it.
Maybe try the Verizon PRL, I looked briefly but cant seem to find the post. It is here somewhere though. Might work for you.
Yea PRL would work, but I don't want to use up my 450 anytime minutes nor do I want to switch back and forth between PRL's. I get great service at work and other places, it's just a dead zone where I live.
Airave?
Is the signal issue only at home? Airave hooks into your broadband service and then you can make phone calls via airave and it routes the calls like Vonage. And if your service really sucks sprint will give you the device for free if you complain the right way. I have had mine for 2 weeks and have had no dropped calls at home. This won't help you outside of your house though....Just my $.02
Really?
Really for free? Sprint was adamant that I would have to purchase one. They said over and over they would not wave the fee since their computers show I'm in excellent coverage area.
I too have been with Sprint for sometime now and I have the booster and it has worked wonders for me at home my office is in my basement so I spend a great deal down there and dint get service upatairs I got 3 bars but now I can make a call anywhere and it doesn't drop or anything well worth the 100 dollars if you can't get them tk give you one for free
Are those boosters provider specific?
I was thinking about getting one for the basement, but we have Sprint and Verizon Androids in the house. Don't want to have to buy one for each carrier.
I can confirm that if your a new customer with sprint they will do absolutely nothing for you, except sell you more stuff. I just went through a very similar situation and after offering me the airwave twice for free only to double back and say no sorry its 100 bucks.
BTW if you get the airwave for free they extend your contact back to 2 years, might be worth it for some.
I'm rocking the verizon prl's now and well its decent enough to stick with it, the phone rocks.
I also got an Airave for free when I was having issues. The only problem it would have is not supporting 3G data, but I suppose if you are at home, you can use wi-fi. The best benefit I saw was paying $10/mo and getting unlimited calls while on the device since I don't have unlimited minutes.
Sprint gave me an Airave for free, waived the fee for 2 years, and didn't touch my contract. But I also have 5 towers within 1.9 miles and they compete for signal...
The thing is, while I don't drop calls within range of the Airave, it doesn't hand off to a tower like it is supposed to so it drops when I walk out of range. :/
I'm pretty pissed at Sprint right now... They had a 2 1/2 outage that affected ALL of Colorado (voice and text - data worked fine in most areas) and just gave me a 25 dollar bill credit for it - couldn't even dial 911 and when people called me phone, it was just dead air - not even voicemail. BIG NO NO! Then on top of that, the subpar 3G speeds (900kbps max, 600 average compared to 3Mbps/1.7 on at&t in the same area), I've had two data outages (another two 25 dollar bill credits) and they charged me an activation fee on my corporate liable line through Comcast which was supposed to be free so I'm fighting to get that waived.
I love the phone. Hate the service.
I have 2 HTC Evo's and 2 Samsung Moments.
I want out of Sprint. They tried increasing my bill just 3 months into a 2 year contract. I was a victim of bait and switch.
Sprint says I am good to port out and cancel without ETF.
Please please please help me get my phones working on another provider!
I really don't even care if the internet works as I almost always have access to wireless internet via my phones. However; fully functioning phones would be great too?? I guess it depends on what is "do-able"
I am pretty sure the 4G wont work..... but it doesn't work in my area anyway.
I have been reading for the better part of 2 days....
Some say it can be done, some say you need to pay someone to do it...there is so much conflicting information out there....then I found this place.
Sorry but I just got laid off and paying for help is out of the question. I will however; send MANY positive vibes your way.
You guys seem to really know your stuff.
Thanks in advance for your time.
Sorry for the bother.
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Not gunna happen dude sorry.... not unless you have another cdma cell compqny like cricket or metropcs. There are roms in the dev section to do that.
They will not work on verizon that i am aware of or ever heard off and att us cellular and most others are gsm.... evo isnt a dual band phone.
Just go sell them and buy new phones.
And explain what "they increased my bill"is.
I am kind of in the same boat i think.
I signed up for 129 + 10 per evo (wife and i have 1 each)
And every single month my bill just gets higher and higher by a few bucks each month.
I was also told i get a 10% discount because of my employer and i have not seen a dime taken off.
Not only that but i dont even get 3g technically until late at night. After 8am until 8-10pm i only get 50-150kbps.
And frankly i am sick of it. I was lied to about the coverage and the network speeds by the retarded sprint store employees and i cant take it anymore.
The only time i cant really use the data on my phone is on wifi. Otherwise its jearly useless.
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Not gunna happen dude sorry.... not unless you have another cdma cell compqny like cricket or metropcs. There are roms in the dev section to do that.
They will not work on verizon that i am aware of or ever heard off and att us cellular and most others are gsm.... evo isnt a dual band phone.
Just go sell them and buy new phones.
And explain what "they increased my bill"is.
I am kind of in the same boat i think.
I signed up for 129 + 10 per evo (wife and i have 1 each)
And every single month my bill just gets higher and higher by a few bucks each month.
I was also told i get a 10% discount because of my employer and i have not seen a dime taken off.
Not only that but i dont even get 3g technically until late at night. After 8am until 8-10pm i only get 50-150kbps.
And frankly i am sick of it. I was lied to about the coverage and the network speeds by the retarded sprint store employees and i cant take it anymore.
The only time i cant really use the data on my phone is on wifi. Otherwise its jearly useless.
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Thanks for your response. Really appreciate it.
The thing that REALLY gets me is they were arrogant about it. I spoke with 3 different people from Sprint, with one being corporate, and they all didn't seem to care in the least bit about losing me and my 5-6K over the next couple years??? Bad bad business...Something I will never forget.
It looks like I can have both Metro-Pcs and also Cricket in my area if I want them??
I was reading that in order to get the Sprint phones on Metro, you need to first get a phone(Their Brand) with them, and then add the other phones electronically via their web site??
Didn't read much on Cricket yet.
Also.....I have never flashed a phone before but I can follow directions pretty well...(I'm married)
Which service it better Cricket or Metro? I read that Metro's internet is junk but again that doesn't bother me b/c wireless is pretty readily available.
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Sorry...here is the low down on them increasing my bill:
I posted this at Hofo too:
I am so disappointed in Sprint. I am cancelling and will never return and also vow to tell everyone that will listen just how underhanded Sprint is.
I was mislead by sales both in store and on the phone with C/S.
In researching phones and service, we kept getting the sales pitch from Store employees and customer service people that "Sprint discounts the ENTIRE bill...not just the first one or two lines." That was a MAJOR selling point in almost every rep we spoke with. Honestly, this is what lead me to pay ETF'S from VZW to come aboard. It also led me to cancel my home phone service, give away my GPS, purchase chargers/skins etc...
I am into Sprint for at least 1K....
Considering we (mostly all) purchased the EVO'S and Samsung 4G's on release dates, we are now 3-4 months into a 2 year contract and Sprint decides to "remind" us that the discounts are no longer valid on lines 3-4.
You can't remind someone about something that was never told to them to begin with. I believe that would be more "informing" than "reminding"??
I have documented this in my series of bills....I was never told....only reminded.
Funny thing is Sprint knew before releasing these 2 phones that they were going to tuck it to their customers.
There is no way that a company of Sprints size could conceive of and implement a policy such as this in a couple months. It had to first be conceived of, second go to legal, third be approved by corporate, employees educated and trained how to handle IRATE customers etc... (Possibly not in this order?). Point being...SPRINT KNEW ABOUT THIS ALL ALONG.
It is not a matter of the 10 or 15 bucks extra a month. I don't want to do business with a company that aggressively sells you on a pricing point, and 3 months into a 2 year contract tries to fleece you for EVEN MORE money. As if the $10.00 premium wasn't enough??
KNOWING full well that people are into them for a lot of money, also knowing it is pretty damned difficult to activate these phones with other providers, and also knowing most people do not look at tiny boxes on page 2 of a bill....They are scum in my book. This was all calculated and down right deceptive....
What good is a contract if one party can make adjustments whenever that want? That is not a contract IMHO...It is a one sided license to steal and SHOULD be illegal. Can I send a letter to my car loan provider and "remind" them that as of next month, I will be paying 10% less? I think not!
Now, I must spend the time researching phones/providers AGAIN....The time and money WASTED on this is absurd....Every time I see a Sprint commercial I cringe...I WAS A BELIEVER...Now I will gop out of my way to stop everyone I know from doing business with these guys.
Let me add that I have no problem with modifying Terms but it needs to be done AFTER the contract is up, not 3 months into a 2 year.
Disgusted....If anyone can tell me how to get 2 EVO's and 2 Samsung Moments going on another provider, I would be forever grateful.
Also...to all of you that say, "Ahhhh it's only 10-15 bucks", You wont be saying that when Sprint implements the pay for data usage plan they are probably working on as I write this.
What they have done would be illegal for 99.9% of the population....Who regulates these guys? Seems like a free for all to me??? They do what they want, make CRAZY money, and pay 5-10% out in legal fees as a result....BAD BAD BAD business.
I'm done...thanks for reading.
you have to talk to Sprint's customer retention department, theyre the ones whose job it is to get stuff done for you. Some people have said they went straight up the chain to the executive in charge of that department and it worked out well for them, just search for his name and number
Yo guys! So I'm a few days past my preliminary 30 day trial so to speak, and have the Epic Touch 4g. I love the phone, it's amazing, but I'm sure I speak for many when I say we're all really dissapointed with the antennas on this thing, and sprints coverage in general.
My 3G speeds never go past the 1.5 meg mark, and that in itself is rare. the 4g is non-existant, worse than 3g. At work I roam a good 75% of the time. And to make matters worse, all these rumors about the Touch 4g not supporting this new Rev B adds insult to injury.
So - I remember seeing a few people a while back, when I had the evo 3d (which i traded in for this phone) say they got out of their ETF by pretty much telling Sprint Reps that the recent fee increase voided their contract (i have a link, but since im a new user I cant post the link until i have 8 posts, search around youll find more info on this)
So I'm SERIOUSLY considering attempting this, and just jumping ship and going to another carrier. We only have until the 11th it seems to try and get out of the contract (you have 30 days to attempt this, fee increase was implemented on the 11th of sept i believe).
What do you guys think? Im contemplating sticking around till the 7th to see what the big announcement from Sprint will be, but I doubt whatever changes will be immediate and we'll start seeing better data anytime soon..
Verizon would be great obviously, theyre the fastest out there as far as I know, but of course the most expensive. Att & T mobile I dont know much about, dont know how good their coverage is in my area (las vegas, nv). I get such a good employee discount with sprint, theyre cheap, the phone is great, i just wish we had better coverage!!
we actually have till the 9th, my mistake!
While it is still technically possible you will have to be a bulldog with them. I did it but I set it up nearly a month ago. In that month they've had meetings and been sent memos specifically telling them NOT to let you out and that they don't HAVE to let you out. Not only that, but, the most damning thing: They've had a month of practice dealing with people on the issue which they are instructed (by default) to not let you out.
However if you stick to them, follow up and just make life in general very annoying for them (get names and direct numbers, follow up with the same exact people...that'll get old to them fast) you can still get out...or you can luck out and find one of the few people that didn't get the memo.
EDiT: Derp. If you have the ET4G you agreed to the new contract terms. Even if you were a bulldog and constantly up their ass and got an uninformed CSR you still wouldn't get out
...though I have heard that they will boot you out of contract for roaming too much (00001.PRL, ahem)
It doesn't work anymore. You can call and try to start the process but word is that Sprint is refusing to allow anyone out of the ETF because of the fee increase.
I don't know why it took you this long to realize that the service doesn't work. If it is the phone you should just exchange it for a Motorola Photon. They have great reception.
Eh, its not that I didnt know the service was shoddy, its just I was hoping I would have better service with the epic touch than with the evo 3d, which I kinda am actually, like I said the epic touch roams at work, but the evo 3d would roam A LOT more. Not to mention the horrible call quality
But, like I said, I'm past the 30 days so I cant exchange it for another phone, as far as I know anyway..
A lot of people here would exhange a Motorola Photon for you Epic Touch. They might even throw in a couple of bucks to sweeten the deal. Just ask.
On a side note my reception with the Epic Touch is crappy too. A few roaming and drop calls because of weak signal. My old Photon never had that problem.
I'm good man, I appreciate you trying to help me out, but like I said, I love the phone, and if Im staying with Sprint I think id like to keep this phone.
But if theres a way out, and other people are considering it, it's worth thinking about. I mean Ive read through all the threads on here that constantly complain about sprints service and coverage, but the phone overall seems to be getting rave reviews.
Im guessing you have one and love it as well?
I use the phone more as a multimedia than as a phone. The Photon has a problem displaying natural colors and blacks so I am force to abandon it. If they ever decide to address that problem (which I think is software wise) I would buy the Photon again. The Epic Touch is great as a multimedia device. As a phone, it fails miserably. I tolerate it.
There's no way out, sorry. You should have left within the first 30 days. Your only hope is that you roam enough for sprint to boot you.
Here's how you get out
ETF is $350... phone is worth about $350-$400 on craigslist. Sell the phone, use the money to pay for ETF.. 0 out of pocket. I do this all the time.
If you want to upgrade early: Open up new line and get new phone (evo 3d, epic touch, etc) Sell your old phone (always get a high end phone kept in mint condition) to pay for ETF on old line. You can usually get about $200ish for an old phone, even the EVO 4G still goes for $225 on craigslist. This worked perfectly when ETF was only $200, now it's $350, but it gets prorated I think after the 4th month. The only downside is you lose your # and that's the reason why I only give out my google voice #. So everytime I get a new #, nobody really knows I changed it, I just link it with my google voice #.
His ETF would be $200 because he was already past his 30 days (when he posted/started this thread), which means he started the contract before Sept 9. The $350 ETF only started after Sept 9.
Yeah **** it! I got an airrave on the way for work, where im constantly roaming, so Im just going to tough it out with sprint, if it gets real bad - ill pay the etf and sell the epic touch. Whatsitsname is correct, my ETF is 200 as far as I know, I always keep getting mis-information from sprint reps, but last I was told it was 200. I started service August 20th.
Ill just wait to see what comes out on T Mobile, Verizon, ATT, etc. My buddy has T Mobile and gets pretty consistent 3g speeds, 1.5 - 2 down, and the prices are the cheapest next to sprint as far as unlimited goes. Coverage is decent as well.
Otherwise, Verizon's speeds are awesome, my buddy hits 22 down on his thunderbolt, crazy. Id cancel my internet and just tether all the time if I had those speeds. The prices though.. not so much. Dont know what ATT has in store, I know they have decent 3g and SOME 4g capable phones, im honestly not too informed.
Hmm. I don't exactly want to leave Sprint but do you guys think I could use this as an easier way to get an ET4G from the 3d? I'm so over this 3d but I don't wanna shell out 500 to buy outright.
Lol I took my 3d in after it bonked itself and I want even a sprint customer(at the time) and they found out it was rooted(I played dumb because I got the phone off a friend) and they still bought the phone back for $150 so try and see what happens you never know. Now I did have a girl rep and I may have laid the flirt on(hey don't judge) but still you never know lol
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His ETF would be $200 because he was already past his 30 days (when he posted/started this thread), which means he started the contract before Sept 9. The $350 ETF only started after Sept 9.
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How is it possible to have an Epic Touch and not have a $350 ETF? If he upgraded, he couldn't have done it before the 16th, which was AFTER the ETF was jacked up?
I might have a higher ETF, I have to call in and check, or sprint chat later today..
But I started service on the 20th of august with a 3d, swapped out for the epic touch as soon as it came out on sept 16th, a few days short of my trial 30 days.
I have an epic touch and a 200 etf. Only because I traded a friend though
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I might have a higher ETF, I have to call in and check, or sprint chat later today..
But I started service on the 20th of august with a 3d, swapped out for the epic touch as soon as it came out on sept 16th, a few days short of my trial 30 days.
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Lucky loophole.
right! it is indeed 200, sprint rep just confirmed, so I lucked out. Im just going to wait it out with sprint, see what oct 7th brings, and if it gets real bad ill check out tmobile or att... or verizon. although Id prefer to go with something unlimited like t mobile / sprint, even if t mobile caps you.
Has anyone been charged by Sprint for their Airave when it malfunctions? We got a free Airave a year ago due to our poor in house signal. It worked fine until about 3 weeks ago, and lights started flashing. We following tech support's instructions and they finally said it was malfunctioning and that they would send us a new one. When we got the new one (it only took about 3 days) we were to package the old one back up in the same box and send it via UPS back to them. Well, everything was fine until our last bill which showed we were being charged $125 for an Airave "Damaged Beyond Repair." Several calls have not resolved this issue as of now, but they are saying it the warehouse classified it this way, due to corrosion.
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Has anyone been charged by Sprint for their Airave when it malfunctions? We got a free Airave a year ago due to our poor in house signal. It worked fine until about 3 weeks ago, and lights started flashing. We following tech support's instructions and they finally said it was malfunctioning and that they would send us a new one. When we got the new one (it only took about 3 days) we were to package the old one back up in the same box and send it via UPS back to them. Well, everything was fine until our last bill which showed we were being charged $125 for an Airave "Damaged Beyond Repair." Several calls have not resolved this issue as of now, but they are saying it the warehouse classified it this way, due to "damage beyond rpair," but couldn't tell me exactly why. One supervisor said it was probably corrosion or liquid damage, but the waiver request came back denied without an explaination, only that it was DBR and she wouldn't or couldn't say what of the 5 items my device was classified for.
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UPDATE: A call back from a different tech we talked to upchanneled the issue to his manager and that person made a decision that the charge was "unjustifiable" and gave us a $125 credit. The whole thing was weird, but now I won't going to Verizon over it after all.
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UPDATE: A call back from a different tech we talked to upchanneled the issue to his manager and that person made a decision that the charge was "unjustifiable" and gave us a $125 credit. The whole thing was weird, but now I won't going to Verizon over it after all.
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Thanks for the update, put "SOLVED" in the thread title. Sucks that you had issues, Sprint reps have usually been very nice when I call, but then theres always the one a** that has to mess it up.
I would've replied to this, but I dont even have an Airave haha
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Has anyone been charged by Sprint for their Airave when it malfunctions? We got a free Airave a year ago due to our poor in house signal. It worked fine until about 3 weeks ago, and lights started flashing. We following tech support's instructions and they finally said it was malfunctioning and that they would send us a new one. When we got the new one (it only took about 3 days) we were to package the old one back up in the same box and send it via UPS back to them. Well, everything was fine until our last bill which showed we were being charged $125 for an Airave "Damaged Beyond Repair." Several calls have not resolved this issue as of now, but they are saying it the warehouse classified it this way, due to corrosion.
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Not sure if you're a new user to the Airave or not but I figured I had better share this.
Oct. 2011 my wife and I switched carriers from a local carrier to Sprint, against my better judgement. I was a long time loyal Sprint customer from 1991-2002 until the digital switch. When we signed up this time we both got the Nexus S 4g. Thank God, because the only thing that saved us was the ability to use Google Talk over Wi-Fi throughout the next period of time.
I was working out of town 5 days a week and home on weekends at the time and from October to December Sprint nearly ruined my marriage and effectually ruined my good name and the state of my account standing because they simply could not get the two devices to communicate properly. We were experiencing things like missed calls, missed texts, no notifications of either, if missed call left a voicemail we would not be notified, texts would arrive 12+ hours after they were sent and Sprint decided we needed to implement an Airave in BOTH locations to improve reception. Unfortunately getting my roommate while working to cooperate with Sprint was virtually impossible, in hindsight, I'm glad he didn't.
Sprint never disclosed that every call going through the Airave was actually changed to an Airave usage minute that came off our then small plan because we were enjoying the unlimited mobile to any mobile minutes. It didn't matter if you were calling a mobile or a Sprint mobile even... every minute through an Airave ate away at your plan minutes. Our $169.00 bill became over $1000.00 in far less than a month. The use of it did decrease our connection issues but throughout the course of troubleshooting with support, executive services and engineers we determined the reason it helped is because the Airave had a single, hardwired MSID that all calls through it used that matched the cellular number that it was assigned. Because it isn't a mobile device it's MSID didn't have to differ from it's mobile number.
Sprint reluctantly refunded the majority of the excess charges, added the unlimited calling feature to the Airave and credited us for it's addition throughout the remainder of our contract and promised not to charge us an early term fee should we decide to take our service elsewhere. From October through April 2012 each my wife and I received 2 replacement NS4G's in spite of the fact that we asked to try something different back on October 10th and was REFUSED believe it or not because of HOW our order was placed. It was a web order that required an instore reservation and for some reason the store cancelled the web order and placed an entirely new order now requiring a deposit where my web order did not. In less than a week of receiving our 3rd NSG4 each, in March of 2012 we both knew the devices still weren't working and with the help of a couple engineers within Sprint, not only did we find the problem we also determined that Sprint was unwilling to admit it and certainly unwilling to address it or repair it.
In our area, our devices have their cellular number and an MSID that differs from it. When I would place a call to my wife, my MSID would receive it's necessary approval from the DSLAM but then the DSLAM proceeded to record a second, different MSID that it randomly assigned to me, her or our communication as you would have it depending on who was initiating the call. Then when the equipment handed off the approved network communication to the receiving end, the second fictitious MSID was handed off and not the originating MSID and because it had no actual communication associated with it, it would simply not notify the receiving party of any call, text or voicemail whatsoever. Not only that, but when the receiving DSLAM received the communication, it recorded a third, altogether different MSID through some dynamic assignment I would assume.
Starting in Feb or Mar Sprint then decided we needed to try new numbers with new devices which was this 3rd NS4G, assuring us both that neither of us would lose our original number since we ported them in, never receiving the benefit of the $125.00 port in credit they claimed we received back in December. All I remembered was a $400.00 bill in December 2011. We tried it and they found even with the new numbers the same MSID issue was going on which prompted the next decision they made which included different devices.
Sprint finally decided to try different devices sending us both used Galaxy S II E4GT's that we were told would be new. By this time, I was no longer working out of town and because we were no longer away from each other and I wasn't using my phone near as much the trouble wasn't seen as often so when we got the new devices it was almost like the issue was non existent. However, the several times I did travel the issue resurfaced immediately. I video taped the opening of the "NEW" devices because they both showed up in a FedEx bubble pack flexible envelope in tiny little boxes with batteries free floating in the envelop in their own plastic bags. No chargers, no headsets, no documentation, no disk with drivers, and no retail box. Both phones had cosmetic damages that appeared to be scuffs. Nicks in the plastic cases on the edge near the glass display and when we registered them on Samsung dotcom, I was sure to use the live representative to do so to make sure it was all documented. We were assured by Samsung that we wouldn't have any trouble receiving warranty service for a year.
Still experiencing the issue with different devices, new numbers and actively engaged engineers calling us to test services we thought for sure they would finally get the issue resolved. Then the time came to put our numbers back where they belong as promised and somehow miraculously Sprint not only lost my number but they continued to hold it hostage until December 2012 when the VP of Consumer Credit was finally forced to send me a "loaner" phone with my original number on it. She agreed to create us a new account with only our two original numbers on it sour current account wouldn't make us look like credit derelicts to any representatives we talked to for any service or support but instead of honoring her agreement, less than a week later, just following Christmas, we receive a letter from Sprint Legal Department telling us we had 30 days to find another carrier since they were deciding to exercise their right to terminate our contract.
Executive services left us hanging, none of our service ever worked as expected, our bill was never repaired virtually none of their representatives were completely honest or knowledgeable and on top of all that, their executives were equally dishonest and frankly I feel damaged irreparably because that period of time I will never get back, I felt like a project manager for them every step of the way because expected call backs would almost never occur and I was constantly prodding someone to do their job in a timely fashion. Over the course of 16 months I spent over 400 hours on the phone with someone from Sprint and we shall see if the Legal department makes good on, not only repairing the account's final status or if they will decide rather to leave the account until it can be written off rather than crediting the account as it should be...
I am monitoring the reporting at the different bureaus very closely right now because if I see any notice of any delinquency I am prepared to take this even further because I am almost certain I will have no problem finding a lawyer in a defamation of character law suit.
I hope your charges don't get nearly as bad as mine did.
Good Luck.
OH, and P.S. This is for Sprint, when I finally complete the project I've been working on I am certain you, like all the other carriers and ISP's, will be interested in utilizing it's functionality because it, if as effective as I think it will be, will reduce network congestion by over 90% by changing the way transferred data is perceived by routing and switching equipment along the path. Don't think you will receive any consideration whatsoever.
I just had the same issue. Took 4 calls to get a new unit, and once I did I thought I was OK. Well my bill showing 300 plus owed said another. Called sprint, guy said it was because I had an innactive unit that I was being charged for it. As last long ad I sent it back I would not be charged, per the rep. It has been a week since I sent it back and still looking for the charge to be removed.
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WOW! I was going to put [SOLVED] in this post header, but maybe I won't now after some of the other comments that had unresolved issues. Very similar. No call backs...I had to call back each day they told me a call was scheduled (and none came). But for the work of one young service rep named James, who IS a concerned and valuable agent, I would have been stuck with that charge and as of today probably would have been a Verizon customer. Note, he missed a call back due to a family emergency. My wife wrote Mr Hesse a 2 page letter (no idea if he will get it) describing this poor situation, but praising the work of young James and his manager in keeping us.
On the subject of the minutes being used by Airave, I haven't noticed that because we have land lines and don't run up cell minutes at home, but I'll be watching that now because I was unaware of that.
The below is long but I wanted to provide all the details of my last Verizon Customer Support issue and how I resolved them
VZW messed me up last year. My son had an M7 that was purchased new in 2012 under the subsidy for a 2 year contract extension. When he was eligible for an upgrade I took it to the nearest VZW store and I got the M8 using his upgrade. They asked me if I wanted Edge on the new M8 and since I change phones often, I went on Edge.
Unknown to me at that time they had done the upgrade wrong. They should have simply upgraded the M7 to the M8 on my son's number then switched the phone to my number. Easily done as I have done it many time before. Instead, they put both my son's M7 and my M8 on Edge. The only saving grace was they were not charging anything monthly for the M7
After getting my M9 I realized no return label was sent with the M9. After several days of phone calls I was told to go to my local VZW store to return it. That is 25 miles away but I drove over anyway as I wanted to ensure the M8 went back.I I waited for 20 minutes for someone to help me (even though 4-5 employees were milling about BS'ing) and was told "We can't take it back in store if you ordered online". I was LIVID. Another 2 calls to VZW and I was able to get a return label.
Then I went to get my son's phone on Edge. The CSR told me to go to the local store. I told her they were jerks and would give me a hard time as it said my son was not eligible to Edge up until 2016! They called the store and cleared it all up, supposedly.
By this time I was so angry, I sent a nice email from my company email (I'm an exec in a large insurance company) to the president of my VZW in my region. I explained my entire saga and provided my account number and contact number. I then headed off the VZW store. Again, they took my name when I walked in and there were 2 people being helped and 4 employees milling around. No biggie, my son needed time to pick out his new phone. 20 minutes later he decided on the S6 Edge. It took another 10 minutes for someone to approach us. I explained the issue and gave him the M7 to return. This is where the fun starts....
He looks at the phone and says "Does this even charge?" My son said "Yes, it charges fine". There were a few minor cosmetic scratches on the bottom but the back, and glass were PERFECT. It had been in an Otterbox with a MIME protector on it. It was also only about 6 weeks old as the original stopped charging and it was replaced under Assurion protection with a refurb phone. Most likely, the minor scratches on the bottom were there as my son is VERY careful with is phone. The VZW salesman, let's just called him "jerk", says "I doubt we can take this". I explained the situation and even provided the receipt when I paid 199 for the phone back in 2012 and technically, I should not even have to return it.
He disappeared for about 15 minutes and then I got a call from Verizon Executive Support concerning my email to the NE regional president. My son looked all scared as the jerk came out and told him "There is no way your getting a new phone today!". My 17 year old looked and me and I said "Don't worry Mike, we are walking out of here with a new phone!". The jerk looked me straight in the eye and said "No, you won't". I had the phone on speaker so the VZW executive support could hear. She then asked me which store I was at and I asked the jerk for the store number. "Why do you want that?" I said "Because I'm on the phone with VZW Corporate Executive Support" he said "Sure you are, our store number is xxxxxx". She overheard this whole exchange.
The Executive support put me on hold and said she was going to call the store manager. Within 10 minutes the manager was RUNNING out of the back shaking my hand and telling me how sorry he was. I told him that the jerk needed some serious coaching on this customer service skills and that he needs to dress more appropriately (High top expensive basketball shoes wide open, shirt 1/2 tucked in and 1/2 out), While he is kissing my a*s, Verizon Executive supports calls to say, I needed to return the M7, I would get an S6 Edge and she would not only credit me for the 199 but give me another M8 as I DID NOT have to return the M8 which is why I never got a return label!
I then said I was not really even happy with the M9 as the Camera was still weak and there were no major differences between the M8 and M9. So she told me to upgrade to whatever phone I wanted and just give the manager the M9 as it was only 10 days ago when I bought it. She even waived the 35 restocking fee. I thanked her and she sent me a text with her name and direct number.
I told the jerk to simply activate the phones and not do anything else. "I can transfer all your stuff". I said "Nope, already taken care of, just please activate both phones and let me get out of here". He didn't say another word until he handed me the bag with the phones and with a disgusted looks said "Have a nice day" I responded "You too and as I walked away I turned back at him and said "I told you!"
So now my son as an S6 Edge, I have a Note Edge, I gave my wife the new M8 to replace her old M7 and the M7 is going up on eBay now.
The point to this story is when you are treated poorly, you don't have to throw up your hands. Do some research, find someone in the C-Suite of a company and send a very nice email. All you need to is fine the naming convention and the domain. Since all public company's must list their executives, getting their email is usually pretty easy if you are at all Internet savvy. Don't ever pay money for these addresses. You can find them for free. C-Suite executives almost always have high level CSR's that can do almost anything for you. I have used this so many times and the only time it didn't work was with Comcast. No matter who I sent an email to they never had anyone follow up. Guess what, Comcast is gone and will never be in any of my homes again, EVER.
Glad to hear everything was taken care of. The Verizon store I go to has taken pretty good care of me.
Mike,
Excellent to hear that you have your phone issue resolved. Sorry to hear that you had to move from the M9... but now that you have used both: how do they compare?
I had the messaging error 65535 class 3 and had to reset my phone (M9). The Tier 2 support agent monitored my phone hit 115 degrees and had me power it off. We then reset it again and it did it again... he said to go to a corporate store and exchange it. The exchange went smooth; they started off saying, "I don't know if we can exchange it, no gold," etc... . With much less headache, I am on my second M9. (I have the Silver...)
Daniel
Mike02z said:
The below is long but I wanted to provide all the details of my last Verizon Customer Support issue and how I resolved them
VZW messed me up last year. My son had an M7 that was purchased new in 2012 under the subsidy for a 2 year contract extension. When he was eligible for an upgrade I took it to the nearest VZW store and I got the M8 using his upgrade. They asked me if I wanted Edge on the new M8 and since I change phones often, I went on Edge.
Unknown to me at that time they had done the upgrade wrong. They should have simply upgraded the M7 to the M8 on my son's number then switched the phone to my number. Easily done as I have done it many time before. Instead, they put both my son's M7 and my M8 on Edge. The only saving grace was they were not charging anything monthly for the M7
After getting my M9 I realized no return label was sent with the M9. After several days of phone calls I was told to go to my local VZW store to return it. That is 25 miles away but I drove over anyway as I wanted to ensure the M8 went back.I I waited for 20 minutes for someone to help me (even though 4-5 employees were milling about BS'ing) and was told "We can't take it back in store if you ordered online". I was LIVID. Another 2 calls to VZW and I was able to get a return label.
Then I went to get my son's phone on Edge. The CSR told me to go to the local store. I told her they were jerks and would give me a hard time as it said my son was not eligible to Edge up until 2016! They called the store and cleared it all up, supposedly.
By this time I was so angry, I sent a nice email from my company email (I'm an exec in a large insurance company) to the president of my VZW in my region. I explained my entire saga and provided my account number and contact number. I then headed off the VZW store. Again, they took my name when I walked in and there were 2 people being helped and 4 employees milling around. No biggie, my son needed time to pick out his new phone. 20 minutes later he decided on the S6 Edge. It took another 10 minutes for someone to approach us. I explained the issue and gave him the M7 to return. This is where the fun starts....
He looks at the phone and says "Does this even charge?" My son said "Yes, it charges fine". There were a few minor cosmetic scratches on the bottom but the back, and glass were PERFECT. It had been in an Otterbox with a MIME protector on it. It was also only about 6 weeks old as the original stopped charging and it was replaced under Assurion protection with a refurb phone. Most likely, the minor scratches on the bottom were there as my son is VERY careful with is phone. The VZW salesman, let's just called him "jerk", says "I doubt we can take this". I explained the situation and even provided the receipt when I paid 199 for the phone back in 2012 and technically, I should not even have to return it.
He disappeared for about 15 minutes and then I got a call from Verizon Executive Support concerning my email to the NE regional president. My son looked all scared as the jerk came out and told him "There is no way your getting a new phone today!". My 17 year old looked and me and I said "Don't worry Mike, we are walking out of here with a new phone!". The jerk looked me straight in the eye and said "No, you won't". I had the phone on speaker so the VZW executive support could hear. She then asked me which store I was at and I asked the jerk for the store number. "Why do you want that?" I said "Because I'm on the phone with VZW Corporate Executive Support" he said "Sure you are, our store number is xxxxxx". She overheard this whole exchange.
The Executive support put me on hold and said she was going to call the store manager. Within 10 minutes the manager was RUNNING out of the back shaking my hand and telling me how sorry he was. I told him that the jerk needed some serious coaching on this customer service skills and that he needs to dress more appropriately (High top expensive basketball shoes wide open, shirt 1/2 tucked in and 1/2 out), While he is kissing my a*s, Verizon Executive supports calls to say, I needed to return the M7, I would get an S6 Edge and she would not only credit me for the 199 but give me another M8 as I DID NOT have to return the M8 which is why I never got a return label!
I then said I was not really even happy with the M9 as the Camera was still weak and there were no major differences between the M8 and M9. So she told me to upgrade to whatever phone I wanted and just give the manager the M9 as it was only 10 days ago when I bought it. She even waived the 35 restocking fee. I thanked her and she sent me a text with her name and direct number.
I told the jerk to simply activate the phones and not do anything else. "I can transfer all your stuff". I said "Nope, already taken care of, just please activate both phones and let me get out of here". He didn't say another word until he handed me the bag with the phones and with a disgusted looks said "Have a nice day" I responded "You too and as I walked away I turned back at him and said "I told you!"
So now my son as an S6 Edge, I have a Note Edge, I gave my wife the new M8 to replace her old M7 and the M7 is going up on eBay now.
The point to this story is when you are treated poorly, you don't have to throw up your hands. Do some research, find someone in the C-Suite of a company and send a very nice email. All you need to is fine the naming convention and the domain. Since all public company's must list their executives, getting their email is usually pretty easy if you are at all Internet savvy. Don't ever pay money for these addresses. You can find them for free. C-Suite executives almost always have high level CSR's that can do almost anything for you. I have used this so many times and the only time it didn't work was with Comcast. No matter who I sent an email to they never had anyone follow up. Guess what, Comcast is gone and will never be in any of my homes again, EVER.
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.This is close to what happened to me. I got on VZW chat and asked them a crap load of questions...like what port in required meant. and if i qualified, and etc etc. I told them what I wanted and they said I could do it. They said I could get $100 credit for recycling ANY smart phone...So I asked if a phone that WORKED and all buttons worked, but had a cracked screen would still qualify and he said as long as the phone is usable. So I took it into a VZW store to get the M9 and they told me I was wrong about EVERYTHING. I spent a total of 6 hours on chat (I assumed the wait times for all the replies were so they could get the right answer). I was so furious. They told me that I had to give them my M8 (which I got off contract from my sister) because I was upgrading early on edge. I told them that I could easily go to ATT and they will pay my 130 dollar cancellation fee and get the M9 from them. Then a Supervisor said that I can't get the 200 credit (100 for new edge activation, and 100 for recycling any smartphone), but she WOULD let me keep the M8 and upgrade early. I said lemme think about it. After thinking about it I was like nahhhhhh. SO I called. I immediately asked for a manager....the first level lady said well let me know what happened and what you're looking to happen and let me see if I can help. SO long story short she let me keep my M8, told me to get a cheap craigslist phone and she will give me a 100 credit for that. I said that isn't enough. I spent a total of 9 hours now, and I want you to get as close to that 200 credit as possible. SO she gave me 40 dollar account credit. So I got 140-used phone on craigslist. I have thought about going to the Note 4 but I probably wont because I don't think its worth a 100 dollars more.
Rezound qualifies for $100
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Icyman said:
Rezound qualifies for $100
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EVERY VZW Smartphone in "Good working condition" qualifies for $100. The M7 was $150, and M8 was $200. However, I didn't want to give them my HTC M8 for 200, when I could prob sell it for $250. I might still give VZW my M8 if it doesn't sell on Swappa in time. (I'm moving overseas).
danblade said:
Mike,
Excellent to hear that you have your phone issue resolved. Sorry to hear that you had to move from the M9... but now that you have used both: how do they compare?
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Thanks Dan!
Now that I have had the Note Edge for 3 days, I like it a lot. The camera is FAR superior to the the M9. Perfromance is pretty close. The M9 has an Octo core processer with 4 running at 1.5 and 4 running at 2.0. The Note Edge has a Quad core proc but runs at 2.7 Ghz.
I like that I can swap batteries in the Note Edge and I like the Gear S watch which I also purchased. I like the bigger screen of the Edge as well as the edge functionality.
All that being said, there was really NOTHING wrong with my M9. It was fast but it's not really fair to compare directly to Note as they are really different animals. The only real comparison is with the Camera. The Edge Camera BLOWS AWAY the M9 camera but a firmware patch may address the M9 camera issues.
I do suspect it will be much more difficult to get root for the Note Edge but I've come to realize that I'm just a crack flasher and spend a TON of time just flashing ROM's and very rarely gain anything.
One other negative for the Note Edge is it is still running 4.4.4 where the M9 runs Lollipop. I hear 5.0.1 is rolling out now for the Note Edge but knowing VZW, it will probably take 3 more months.
While I don't the M9 at the corporate store in Queens Center Mall,Queens NY. I had similar issues like you that is why because of those reps at that store I might never upgrade with verizon, and if I do I will never do it at any corp/3rd party store.
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"I do suspect it will be much more difficult to get root for the Note Edge but I've come to realize that I'm just a crack flasher and spend a TON of time just flashing ROM's and very rarely gain anything."
HAHA! I am feeling that too, Thanks for saying it!
Mike02z said:
Thanks Dan!
Now that I have had the Note Edge for 3 days, I like it a lot. The camera is FAR superior to the the M9. Perfromance is pretty close. The M9 has an Octo core processer with 4 running at 1.5 and 4 running at 2.0. The Note Edge has a Quad core proc but runs at 2.7 Ghz.
I like that I can swap batteries in the Note Edge and I like the Gear S watch which I also purchased. I like the bigger screen of the Edge as well as the edge functionality.
All that being said, there was really NOTHING wrong with my M9. It was fast but it's not really fair to compare directly to Note as they are really different animals. The only real comparison is with the Camera. The Edge Camera BLOWS AWAY the M9 camera but a firmware patch may address the M9 camera issues.
I do suspect it will be much more difficult to get root for the Note Edge but I've come to realize that I'm just a crack flasher and spend a TON of time just flashing ROM's and very rarely gain anything.
One other negative for the Note Edge is it is still running 4.4.4 where the M9 runs Lollipop. I hear 5.0.1 is rolling out now for the Note Edge but knowing VZW, it will probably take 3 more months.
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Tbh, the Note 4 Camera is somewhat better then my M9, but I do think the M9 will get fixed eventually. But I think that it still wont perform as good as the cameras that have optical image stab. The G3 even took better pics. I was blown away when i saw my friends G3 when holding my M9 next to it. Saying that though, unless I get the G3, I won't have a better device. My opinion is that the Note Edge, S6, S6 Edge are far from better devices (overall) then the M9.
I don't see any problem stated in the first post... None, at all. You did not have edge on both, if you were not getting charged. It would have been cheaper short term and long to do edge if you had at the time 10 gigs, or now, 6 gigs of data. I also see no point in using your son's upgrade in the first place unless you simply always get the new phone and he gets the hand me downs, which edge makes irrelevant. In which case your line was still eligible for both 2 year or edge. Did you skip a whole paragraph of actual problem? Lots of confusion as to the reason you went to the store for an online order and why that was an issue in the first place.
If You skipped a paragraph about edging up and turning in the phone on your sons line instead of yours for whatever reason, then it all makes sense. Ask for a printed return label, send in. If a store took the edge-up turn in, then your account would have been charged a non-return fee since there is no link in the systems between self serve and in store. But in that case, then it seems you got mad for no reason at all and no blame with your carrier... Which would make no sense to blab on the internet about.
Mike02z said:
The below is long but I wanted to provide all the details of my last Verizon Customer Support issue and how I resolved them
VZW messed me up last year. My son had an M7 that was purchased new in 2012 under the subsidy for a 2 year contract extension. When he was eligible for an upgrade I took it to the nearest VZW store and I got the M8 using his upgrade. They asked me if I wanted Edge on the new M8 and since I change phones often, I went on Edge.
Unknown to me at that time they had done the upgrade wrong. They should have simply upgraded the M7 to the M8 on my son's number then switched the phone to my number. Easily done as I have done it many time before. Instead, they put both my son's M7 and my M8 on Edge. The only saving grace was they were not charging anything monthly for the M7
After getting my M9 I realized no return label was sent with the M9. After several days of phone calls I was told to go to my local VZW store to return it. That is 25 miles away but I drove over anyway as I wanted to ensure the M8 went back.I I waited for 20 minutes for someone to help me (even though 4-5 employees were milling about BS'ing) and was told "We can't take it back in store if you ordered online". I was LIVID. Another 2 calls to VZW and I was able to get a return label.
Then I went to get my son's phone on Edge. The CSR told me to go to the local store. I told her they were jerks and would give me a hard time as it said my son was not eligible to Edge up until 2016! They called the store and cleared it all up, supposedly.
By this time I was so angry, I sent a nice email from my company email (I'm an exec in a large insurance company) to the president of my VZW in my region. I explained my entire saga and provided my account number and contact number. I then headed off the VZW store. Again, they took my name when I walked in and there were 2 people being helped and 4 employees milling around. No biggie, my son needed time to pick out his new phone. 20 minutes later he decided on the S6 Edge. It took another 10 minutes for someone to approach us. I explained the issue and gave him the M7 to return. This is where the fun starts....
He looks at the phone and says "Does this even charge?" My son said "Yes, it charges fine". There were a few minor cosmetic scratches on the bottom but the back, and glass were PERFECT. It had been in an Otterbox with a MIME protector on it. It was also only about 6 weeks old as the original stopped charging and it was replaced under Assurion protection with a refurb phone. Most likely, the minor scratches on the bottom were there as my son is VERY careful with is phone. The VZW salesman, let's just called him "jerk", says "I doubt we can take this". I explained the situation and even provided the receipt when I paid 199 for the phone back in 2012 and technically, I should not even have to return it.
He disappeared for about 15 minutes and then I got a call from Verizon Executive Support concerning my email to the NE regional president. My son looked all scared as the jerk came out and told him "There is no way your getting a new phone today!". My 17 year old looked and me and I said "Don't worry Mike, we are walking out of here with a new phone!". The jerk looked me straight in the eye and said "No, you won't". I had the phone on speaker so the VZW executive support could hear. She then asked me which store I was at and I asked the jerk for the store number. "Why do you want that?" I said "Because I'm on the phone with VZW Corporate Executive Support" he said "Sure you are, our store number is xxxxxx". She overheard this whole exchange.
The Executive support put me on hold and said she was going to call the store manager. Within 10 minutes the manager was RUNNING out of the back shaking my hand and telling me how sorry he was. I told him that the jerk needed some serious coaching on this customer service skills and that he needs to dress more appropriately (High top expensive basketball shoes wide open, shirt 1/2 tucked in and 1/2 out), While he is kissing my a*s, Verizon Executive supports calls to say, I needed to return the M7, I would get an S6 Edge and she would not only credit me for the 199 but give me another M8 as I DID NOT have to return the M8 which is why I never got a return label!
I then said I was not really even happy with the M9 as the Camera was still weak and there were no major differences between the M8 and M9. So she told me to upgrade to whatever phone I wanted and just give the manager the M9 as it was only 10 days ago when I bought it. She even waived the 35 restocking fee. I thanked her and she sent me a text with her name and direct number.
I told the jerk to simply activate the phones and not do anything else. "I can transfer all your stuff". I said "Nope, already taken care of, just please activate both phones and let me get out of here". He didn't say another word until he handed me the bag with the phones and with a disgusted looks said "Have a nice day" I responded "You too and as I walked away I turned back at him and said "I told you!"
So now my son as an S6 Edge, I have a Note Edge, I gave my wife the new M8 to replace her old M7 and the M7 is going up on eBay now.
The point to this story is when you are treated poorly, you don't have to throw up your hands. Do some research, find someone in the C-Suite of a company and send a very nice email. All you need to is fine the naming convention and the domain. Since all public company's must list their executives, getting their email is usually pretty easy if you are at all Internet savvy. Don't ever pay money for these addresses. You can find them for free. C-Suite executives almost always have high level CSR's that can do almost anything for you. I have used this so many times and the only time it didn't work was with Comcast. No matter who I sent an email to they never had anyone follow up. Guess what, Comcast is gone and will never be in any of my homes again, EVER.
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Was this a corporate store? I'm a manager at Verizon and I would have fired that idiot right there.
seshaz said:
Was this a corporate store? I'm a manage at Verizon and I would have fired that idiot right there.
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Yes. It was a VZW Corporate store. I typically use the VZW Corporate srore near my second home. They are MUCH better but they did mess up my original M8.
Mike02z said:
Yes. It was a VZW Corporate store. I typically use the VZW Corporate srore near my second home. They are MUCH better but they did mess up my original M8.
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That's wild, not even sure how they were able to f it up that bad in the system lol. You must have got a super special rep
coolbluedab said:
I don't see any problem stated in the first post... None, at all. You did not have edge on both, if you were not getting charged. It would have been cheaper short term and long to do edge if you had at the time 10 gigs, or now, 6 gigs of data. I also see no point in using your son's upgrade in the first place unless you simply always get the new phone and he gets the hand me downs, which edge makes irrelevant. In which case your line was still eligible for both 2 year or edge. Did you skip a whole paragraph of actual problem? Lots of confusion as to the reason you went to the store for an online order and why that was an issue in the first place.
If You skipped a paragraph about edging up and turning in the phone on your sons line instead of yours for whatever reason, then it all makes sense. Ask for a printed return label, send in. If a store took the edge-up turn in, then your account would have been charged a non-return fee since there is no link in the systems between self serve and in store. But in that case, then it seems you got mad for no reason at all and no blame with your carrier... Which would make no sense to blab on the internet about.
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First, When I used my son's upgrade back in March of 2014 his phone SHOULD NOT have been put on Edge. It was a subsidized phone that was eligible for upgrade. I used his upgrade to get my M8 as he was happy with the M7. So he would not be eligible for an upgarde until 3/2016 BUT it said he was on Edge. After I used his upgrade, I went on Edge but that had nothing to do with his plan. I should have returned the M8 when I preordered the M9 but they did not send me a return shipping label. I was told to go into ANY Verizon corporate store and they would take it. I drove ~15 miles one way for no reason as the store said they could not take the phone back after being told that was the ONLY way to get the phone back.
Then I spent hours on the phone trying to send my M8 back BEFORE I got charged for it. The reason I never got a return label was they didn't want the M8 back. Even though on Edge. No idea why. I finally got a shipping label and retrned the M8 but was then told by Executive Customer Support there was no need to retrun it. They also said the original store made a mitake and while my son's phone had a new upgrade date of 3/2016, It should never have been out on Edge.
My beef was that I could not get a stratight answer from the CSR's at VZW. It was then that I sent an email to the regional preseident that covers my state. Why I got to upgrade my son's phone early was that they knew I had been told that I could upgrade that. They had the converstaions between me and the CSR's. While technically not eligible for an upgrade, they took the M7 back and let him go on Edge and returned my M8 and gave me a 199 bill credit for getting it wrong in the first place.
Yes, Edge is great for people like me who change phones every year but there was no Edge when we purchased the M7's and I had 5 in my family. No one likes to upgrade except me so I used to take all their upgrades as I'm the one who pays the bill but now Edge makes that a moot point.
When I went on the VZW web site it clearly stated that BOTH my son's line and mine WERE ON Edge even though I was not paying anything for the M7.
OK, so you have a beef with your closest Verizon store reps, and basically traded almost all your HTC One phones in and moved to Samsungs. (You have no M9 to speak of...) Why is this in the HTC One M9 Forum Section?
WorldOfJohnboy said:
OK, so you have a beef with your closest Verizon store reps, and basically traded almost all your HTC One phones in and moved to Samsungs. (You have no M9 to speak of...) Why is this in the HTC One M9 Forum Section?
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because he is trying to encourage us to switch our m9s for samsungs