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[Q] New to Droid Incredible. Few questions

So i just got my second android powered phone which is a htc droid incredible, brand new completely stock. so i want to root, unlock bootloader, da da da, etc.
a few guides i followed here on xda which is really helpful, but before i get started and follow some guides, which ones?
which should i follow?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=709220
http://unrevoked.com/rootwiki/doku.php/public/forever
unRevoked or the old way?

Use unrevoked3. It is very easy and will take you less than 5 minutes.

BEFORE you root the new Incredible, make sure you know whether you have the AMOLED or the other type display - it will make a difference in whether/how your rooted device displays your recovery screen (or not) after rooting.
Said another way, I think the non-AMOLED screens don't let you see anything in recovery after rooting. Recommend you thoroughly research whether the type screen you have (if not AMOLED) has a recovery that lets you see what's on the screen.

smtom said:
BEFORE you root the new Incredible, make sure you know whether you have the AMOLED or the other type display - it will make a difference in whether/how your rooted device displays your recovery screen (or not) after rooting.
Said another way, I think the AMOLED screens don't let you see anything in recovery after rooting. Recommend you thoroughly research whether the type screen you have (if not AMOLED) has a recovery that lets you see what's on the screen.
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wow i did not know that. so how do i go about finding out if my screen is amoled or not?

merbiyatch said:
wow i did not know that. so how do i go about finding out if my screen is amoled or not?
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AMOLED is ok, SLCD gives issues.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=818052

merbiyatch said:
wow i did not know that. so how do i go about finding out if my screen is amoled or not?
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look of your proof of purchase on the box and if it say w1 r w2 it is an amoled. If it says w3 you have a slcd. Hope this helps.

merbiyatch said:
wow i did not know that. so how do i go about finding out if my screen is amoled or not?
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Easiest way to check: menu>settings>about phone>hardware information> hardware version. 0002 = amoled = good to go, 0003 = slcd = search forums for the right recovery.

yeah definitely go with unrevoked3, I just got my new incredible yesterday and had it rooted and flashed the slcd recovery image in less than 5 minutes. Really this was the easiest flash I've ever done on any phone.

HTC 'Nothing but Faults' Desire.

When I first got my desire back in July, I was over the moon with all these jam packed features and functions and that AMOLED screen not to mention my very first smart phone. That didn't last, ever since I moved to the HTC Desire it gives me nothing but grief, I can hardly use it due to its faults, either be it hardware or software based; Boot Loops, Boot Freeze, Inconsistency, On-board Low Memory, Overheating, Buggy that's just a few problems with it.
Trying to fix it by debranding to the HTC Stock ROM didn't solve any problems.
I think the time has come now to move on from my desire and chose another device other than HTC, preferably iPhone?
Please share your experiences regarding this device and what would you recommend as my next device.
-Deeco

Did you try rooting, S-OFF and installing a non-stock ROM? I know 3-4 people with a Desire and they are all stock and they all work immaculately.

I am not interested in using a Non-Stock ROM and I don't think that would make any difference. I was talking generally about the phone and the amount of flaws disadvantages it's self from reliability.

I am absolutely satisfied with HTC after using 3 different phones made by them in the past 3 years. iOS and Apple are great for dumb people.

Why didn't you bring it in for warranty? Freezes and reboots are not normal on an unrooted desire.
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App

Deeco7 said:
I am not interested in using a Non-Stock ROM and I don't think that would make any difference. I was talking generally about the phone and the amount of flaws disadvantages it's self from reliability.
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Maybe it's just a dodgy phone? A new ROM would amost certainly fix your issues providing they aren't hardware related. Have you tried to get it repaired using your warranty?

I came from an iPhone. iPhone get hotter than this phone.. you probably got a defective phone, mine works flawlessly...
And believe me, use this rom and you'll love it:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=741663

If you want to move to another phone look around go in shops there are many try an iPhone, Blackberry, or another phone. It's your choice no one can make that decision for you.

Ik Desire said:
Why didn't you bring it in for warranty? Freezes and reboots are not normal on an unrooted desire.
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App
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That would be the obvious thing to do, but I am unwilling to have my AMOLED screen replaced with a SLCD one, that's just me.
The phone is defective you guys are right but as explained I don't want the above scenario to occur.
TBH, the only reason one I metioned iPhone is because it has all the features I want 'Front face camera' etc besides the Signal Problem, I can jailbreak/mod the phone to my desire and needs.

Deeco7 said:
That would be the obvious thing to do, but I am unwilling to have my AMOLED screen replaced with a SLCD one, that's just me.
The phone is defective you guys are right but as explained I don't want the above scenario to occur.
TBH, the only reason one I metioned iPhone is because it has all the features I want 'Front face camera' etc besides the Signal Problem, I can jailbreak/mod the phone to my desire and needs.
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??
But you're not willing to root your Desire and flash a custom ROM?

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But you're not willing to root your Desire and flash a custom ROM?
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Like I mentioned above, I had rooted it but I consider flashing to a Custom ROM will make no difference whatsoever as my device is fault and unwilling to deliver to HTC under warranty due to screen replacement.

Deeco7 said:
Like I mentioned above, I had rooted it but I consider flashing to a Custom ROM will make no difference whatsoever as my device is fault and unwilling to deliver to HTC under warranty due to screen replacement.
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so, you're looking for an excuse to buy an iPhone, or you are making yourself a martir? You dont want to try a custom ROM, but dont want to change the phone neither... so what's the point of this thread?

brummer101 said:
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But you're not willing to root your Desire and flash a custom ROM?
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Good point. I'd rather be with an Android OS than iOS, but with that said I'm not going to go over the rigmarole of an Android Vs iOS Vs WP7 'discussion'.
If it was my phone I'd take the time to atleast root it and get Clockwork recovery installed and try a light Sense-based ROM to see if it is defective hardware or not.
What's even more simple than that is resetting the phone to factory defaults to see if the problems persist, have you given that a go?

netomx said:
so, you're looking for an excuse to buy an iPhone, or you are making yourself a martir? You dont want to try a custom ROM, but dont want to change the phone neither... so what's the point of this thread?
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Look, I'm not sure if I have phrased it wrong or something, but using a custom rom hadn't made any difference.

Deeco7 said:
Look, I'm not sure if I have phrased it wrong or something, but using a custom rom hadn't made any difference.
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Aye you did, if it still persists you've got a duff phone. Warranty is the best bet, get them to replace it, then stick with it or try another phone. As it's pointless using a defective device, it'd drive me up the wall.

netomx said:
... so what's the point of this thread?
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Exactly, so you've got a defective phone but won't RMA it, purely on the basis you'll get an LCD screen instead? Madness... Those early AMOLEDS are nothing to write home about too.

Deeco7 said:
Look, I'm not sure if I have phrased it wrong or something, but using a custom rom hadn't made any difference.
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I thought you didnt tried a custom ROM, my bad. Well, send it to repair, and then sell it in ebay and get an AMOLED one. If you're insterested, and if you live in USA, I got the A8181 version, and I want the A8183 (WCDMA 850), and I dont care to get a SLCD screen.

The SLCD's are actually more vibrant in colour, although I'd say the AMOLEDs are more efficient.

Kalavere said:
The SLCD's are actually more vibrant in colour, although I'd say the AMOLEDs are more efficient.
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Yet again, I have mentioned that I don't want to sacrifice my AMOLED screen for SLCD as I the AMOLED is what I payed for and is better in comparison. The Desire battery is bad as it is and adding SLCD will not do anygood.
I don't want to drift into that, a back to my first post.

Deeco7 said:
Yet again, I have mentioned that I don't want to sacrifice my AMOLED screen for SLCD as I the AMOLED is what I payed for and is better in comparison. The Desire battery is bad as it is and adding SLCD will not do anygood.
I don't want to drift into that, a back to my first post.
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Considering you are asking people for help, you are being very short and sharp with people and really aren't being too polite. That was a statement, I was retorting generally to sarge78's post about screens.

Can Nandroid backups be transferred and used between HTC Incredibles?

I just lost my phone and unfortunately need to get a $100 replacement from Asurion two weeks (approx, whenever they release it.) before I upgrade to the Galaxy Nexus...Can I use a Nandroid backup of my old phone on my new replacement incredible when I get it? Or do the hardware differences matter and will cause it to be unreliable and crash?

Unfortunately, the differences between the two and other more granular stuff like device id stored in the backup would cause many many issues, were it even bootable.
Sent from my ADR6300 using XDA Premium App

EvanVanVan said:
I just lost my phone and unfortunately need to get a $100 replacement from Asurion two weeks (approx, whenever they release it.) before I upgrade to the Galaxy Nexus...Can I use a Nandroid backup of my old phone on my new replacement incredible when I get it? Or do the hardware differences matter and will cause it to be unreliable and crash?
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as long as the phones are the same ie. if you used an AMOLED to AMOLED or SLCD to SLCD device it should work. the worst it is going to do is not boot. i would recommend having a rom on your phone sd card and try it. If anything happens you can always RUU with the .exe to get it back to working order.

Thanks guys, yeah I guess its worth a shot, I'm not sure what the new screen is or even what my old screen was...but as you said the worst that'll happen is it wont boot. I really only need it till I can get the Galaxy Nexus, even if it is a little unreliable for the time being..

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Thanks guys, yeah I guess its worth a shot, I'm not sure what the new screen is or even what my old screen was...but as you said the worst that'll happen is it wont boot. I really only need it till I can get the Galaxy Nexus, even if it is a little unreliable for the time being..
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New screen will be slcd. Its really hard to get an amoled. When did you buy the other incredible?
Sent from my sexy assistant. (AMOLED HTC Incredible)

1st gen preorder...the phone almost made it..

You more than likely had a AMOLED then.

EvanVanVan said:
1st gen preorder...the phone almost made it..
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yeah then the nandroid might not work unless you get another AMOLED because thats what the OG incredible was. if you try to restore it your touch screen will not work.
i mean if you really want to try it better say a little prayer first.

yeah, had a feeling that was the answer thanks...oh well at least all the important stuff was on the sd card and the contacts were on google

smtom said:
Unfortunately, the differences between the two and other more granular stuff like device id stored in the backup would cause many many issues, were it even bootable.
Sent from my ADR6300 using XDA Premium App
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I think so ha ha..

screen issur..or not?

Hey I was just wondering if this was just me..but when i boot up the phone on the boot up animation as the colors are doing they're thing, it looks like the screen is a bit pixelated or as if it has oily blotches on the screen. I was wondering if that's normal with the phone or if like i should get it replaced. and than also with that..this is my second phone already..i exchanged my first one cause the usb connector wasnt working, would verizon exchange this one with no problem also?

Only in the boot animation? Are you sure it isn't supposed to look that way?

Yes, the boot animation is a bit rough-looking normally.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using XDA App

ah alright i wasnt sure if it was supposed to look that way or not..thanks for that merry christmas all!

it's normal, to made the boot animation smoother.

Hated to bump an old thread, but it seemed to be the closest hit.
Just got my GNex from Google Play today. When I turned on the phone for the first time, the animation discussed here appeared to be absolutely vivid and stunning - HD quality. It was quite impressive indeed.
However, after accepting the system update nag it appears grainy and closer to SD quality following the update. It's now feeding my paranoia about everything else I look at.
Other than that, I don't see any other screen issues other than the blue tinge when viewing from indirect angles.
Not sure what all the update did. Looks like I am running Android Version 4.04 and kernel version 3.0.8-gda6252b
Sound normal?

Rooted?
http://www.mediafire.com/?kfn1e6nvys663ar
Flash that.
If not...
You can open that .zip...find the bootanimation.zip
and adb push it to /data/local/bootanimation.zip

Jubakuba said:
Rooted?
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Not rooted, but possibly heading in that direction. Just getting acquainted for now and making sure I don't need to send it back before I get too intimate with it.
Need to do some more forum searching and start sequencing out a plan. Thanks for your file link, I'll put it with my arsenal.

[Q] Chad's Multitouch Clockwork Mod

Hi all, I was wondering if anyone has Chad's "testing" version of Clockwork mod, and it was version 2.5.1.8. The first recovery to be able to get more than 2 touchpoints at a time?
could anyone help? searched high and low but all links are either dead or to websites that don't exist anymore,
many thanks,
Brian

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Hi all, I was wondering if anyone has Chad's "testing" version of Clockwork mod, and it was version 2.5.1.8. The first recovery to be able to get more than 2 touchpoints at a time?
could anyone help? searched high and low but all links are either dead or to websites that don't exist anymore,
many thanks,
Brian
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Try pming Chad. Also slcd or amoled screen?
Also some touch controllers seem to only work with 2 even though they are detected by the multi touch kernel as supporting more.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk

I will try to pm him and see if he will respond,
I'm unaware of how to determine my screen type, i've read many threads about it but it's hard to make clear what screen I have? if you have any information on this it would help greatly. Even if it's a slcd, some people have reported 3 working but even 3 I would be happy for the apps I use requires more than 2 sometimes like music apps, emulator and such but thank you for replying
many thanks, Brian

If you pull your battery, hardware version ADR6300 VW & ADR6300 VW2 are AMOLED, ADR6300 VW3 is SLCD.

Following your advice, it's a SLCD (I think as it was both VW beside the FCC and VW3 above it) and reading about this screen means at most 3 touch points. Even at that it's pushing it =[ but thanks all for your help though i'm sure someone else could use the information

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Following your advice, it's a SLCD (I think as it was both VW beside the FCC and VW3 above it) and reading about this screen means at most 3 touch points. Even at that it's pushing it =[ but thanks all for your help though i'm sure someone else could use the information
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I probably have the same model as you. As far as the selecting number of touch points in the kernel, mine should support more than 2 but it doesn't. I've never heard of anyone with an SLCD model get more than 2 points.

tiny4579 said:
I probably have the same model as you. As far as the selecting number of touch points in the kernel, mine should support more than 2 but it doesn't. I've never heard of anyone with an SLCD model get more than 2 points.
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hmmm that's true though, people have been trying to get more than two on SLCD but wonder if it's got to due to the board, digitizer or screen? so lets say mine is a SLCD, if I purchase a AMOLED screen would multitouch work? as I replaced the digitizer recently due to a nasty drop?
in this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=906721
i've seen this post? so it could be possible to get 3? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=10805042&postcount=101