Just curious if it's possible to continually switch between a rooted and unrooted phone. I previously used unrevoked 3.21 and rooted, and then used the unrevoked S-ON and PC36IMG.zip file to go back to unrooted.
Is it possible to switch around between rooted and unrooted at will? Is it maybe just frowned upon/risky? Just curious.
Are you bored..?? I don't see any other reason to keep doing it..
Yeah, there shouldn't be a problem really. Unless you do it hundreds of thousands of times...you may wear out your memory, lol. I'm with jdmshoc22...unless you take it to the Sprint store all of the time there is no real reason to.
Cool just wanted to check. If memory wear and user error are the only real issues that stand in my way then that's not a problem.
I haven't taken my phone back to Sprint yet (knock on wood) but as for why I would want to go back and forth -- I don't know, I was just asking. I rooted and deleted the Sprint bloatware but then unrooted and applied the latest 3.29.651.5 update. Yes, I could have installed that as root from someone packages online, but how do I know I can trust what other people are posting on the internet? The 3.29.651.5 update is pretty slick too...made the phone very snappy!
Anyway, it seemed like more of a hassle to have root than it was worth. So what -- I could wifi tether? Not a big deal to me. I can USB tether without root access anyway. At least with an unrooted phone I can install the OTA updates. However, there may be something that comes along in the future that I really want which requires root. So I was just curious if I can root again some day without risking anything.
Thanks for the info...I'm pretty sure it will be fine.
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If one of us happens to get the update, and want to keep root....what do you want us to do with the update?
Don't install it. I'm not sure how to do that with an Android device.
However if it does get installed you will lose root. It could also cause some problems if it gets pushed to your phone.
The devs will have a rooted version of the rom before they will have a root method for the rom.
I think it is safe to say, if you want to keep Root, ignore the update prompt, and wait for the developers here to make rooted versions of the ROM.
The original firmware was rooted before the phone came out. (I don't know how long it took developers to actually Root the phone, since I don't know how long they had the developers release in their hands).
When the 1.47 OTA came out, it broke root, and became a mad scramble to try to re-root the phone. If I remember right, it took a couple weeks to find the workaround that would allow root.
It is a good bet that the new release WILL break root again, and there is no telling how long it will be before it can be rooted again, if ever.
is this a serious question? most updates will remove all hacked/homebrew stuff been hapning since the begining of time.......(i.e. PSP, Nintendo Wii, iPhone/touch......)just dont update...take this stuff to yahoo answers.
Rocklee99 said:
If one of us happens to get the update, and want to keep root....what do you want us to do with the update?
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Update lose root. Period. Just wait.
ohh geez, be prepared for all of the topics like "just updated to sprints official froyo update and lost root can i root it back?" my gawd its gonna get annoying
i guess this is a noob question, but how long does it take to get a rooted stock rome of this 2.2? i would assume not too long correct?
usually same day.. its all about patience which there is little of.. i can guarantee you will have a stock rooted rom by this weeks end
By the question you can tell that i'm rather inexperienced at this, but a buddy of mine(who has a Droid on VZW) and i were debating whether or not doing an OTA update after you root would cause you to loose your ability to root forever.
I guess it's different on both devices, but he contends that he could unroot his droid, which is running a custom 2.2 ROM, install an OTA update, decide he doesn't like it, then just go back to a 2.1 RUU from VZW or Motorola, and then re-root.
Everything i have read here about the EVO indicates that if i am already rooted, and i accept an OTA update, then i will never be able to root again. Does never, really mean never? Or is it just mean that i won't be able to root using the current methods to root the phone?
What if i had never rooted and then accepted the OTA 2.2 from sprint that may be coming this week, would i then be able to root?
What exactly does the update do to remove the ability to get /root access to the phone? Something with the bootloader, HBOOT, or what?
Thanks for the information. Hopefully, this will settle this question for my friend and I.
Chris
OTA updates typically break any existing root methods, and disable any current root access.
Some OTA's also update the phone in a manner which prevents older official roms (that have working roots) from being reinstalled.
At that point, you have an updated rom with known roots removed, that can't be rolled back, so the only option is to wait until another root exploit is found and released. Which may or may not happen depending on the device and whoever is working on it.
Hope that helps.
You can take and accept as many updates as you want....you just have to modify that update by replacing the new hboot with the engineering one.....that way you can freely flash zip files
HTC is tricksy and they dont let you roll back after the OTA. Motorolla may not have this so your friend may in fact be able to roll back to 2.1 (however he may be misinformed as well).
To root basically they find a bug to exploit that allows us to gain access as a root user. when the OTA updates come out 99% of the time they will fix this bug. HTCat least blocks roll backs so now you are on a new version of the software that you can not go backwards and the bug to root is no longer there.
While there are normally other bugs that can be exploited to get root it is possible that there isnt one or that if there is no one can find it. if they cant find it then it could remove your ability to root permanently.
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You can take and accept as many updates as you want....you just have to modify that update by replacing the new hboot with the engineering one.....that way you can freely flash zip files
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while true accepting an OTA will not give you the chance to do this for most.
ok, that explains things a little better. thanks.
I'm new to all of this as well. My EVO has already been updated OTA by a Sprint employee while I was purchasing the phone. From what I've read it looks like I'm SOL until someone cracks 2.2. One quick question though... How long did it take people to be able to root the first software on the EVO's?
I have a stock Android 2.1 Evo rooted with Unrevoked3. I've been holding off upgrading to Froyo because I don't have a good handle on what my best upgrade option is. First of all, I really don't care about using custom ROMs or uninstalling the Sprint apps that come with the phone. All I really care about is that I want to be able to run Wifi tether and SetCPU.
Second, I want the rooting process to be as easy as possible. I probably wouldn't have bothered rooting my phone in my first place if it hadn't been for the initial unrevoked release making it so easy to do. Unrevoked3 was a bit more involved, but at least I didn't lose my existing apps or settings. So, all other things being equal, I'd really like to avoid having to backup and restore apps and application settings.
Third, I want the root to be reversible. Unless, of course, I've already irreversibly done something to my phone when I rooted it with Unrevoked3. (I haven't been able to find a clear answer anywhere that says whether or not you can "unroot" from Unrevoked3- just a lot of people asking about it and some people saying something worked for them and other people saying the same method didn't work for them). From what I understand, Unrevoked Forever willl irreversibly modify my phone, which makes me worried I won't be able to get my phone serviced under the warranty or TEP if I ever need it.
As far as I know, there isn't a way for me to upgrade to 2.2 without either 1) doing something irreversible (Unrevoked Forever), or 2) wiping my phone's apps and settings (flashing a rooted 2.2 ROM). Is that true? If I wanted, how would I flash a 2.2 ROM given my phone is already rooted with Unrevoked3?
Hello all!
First I am not new to flashing and/or hacking phones I have done many back in my WM and other phone days,just somewhat new to Android
I have looked around and I think I already know whats up but I can't say I have seen this question asked yet...I did search
Here we go,
I have an Evo with Hboot 2.10 Stock sprint flash (as in from the sprint store) and I updated to S/W 3.70 with out first checking to see what it had...(yea stupid of me )
What I want to do is Temp root into the phone,use Ti backup or whatever to make a back up of the stock apps and then remove them. I only want to remove the sprint tv,nascar,blockbuster and other apps that I don't use that don't tie into the rest of the OS.
I tried with Z4root but seeing as I have S/W 3.70 not much happens
I don't really care to flash to new rom as I am happy with the stock flash just want to get rid of apps I will never use.
So far my only option is to wait from what I have looked up,I just wanted to know if I could execute my plan with out a full system flash.
Thank you for your time and if anyone needs more info I will be glad to give it!
Yes, it seems 3.70 has patched the exploit that z4root was using to get temp root. Until the devs find a way to get a new exploit you'll have to wait.
With the rate these Devs work, I'd give it a week and you should be able to root your phone
Thanks!
I figured that was what I would have to do,but it never hurts to ask
A quick update.
It seems as if Z4root still does work even with the 3.70 OTA update...
I was searching around on Google and found people with this exact set up that had been able to temp root.
Not sure on the why yet but I had to do a reset to factory default first in order to get z4root to give me temp root(Maybe something from the update was hanging around on the phone blocking z4??). I then fired up TI backup and started to remove the Sprint stock apps I don't use and and a few other save to remove ones!
So if anyone is looking to stay on the stock sprint rom and has S/W 3.70 this might work for you as well!
And now I am fully rooted and running the sprintlovers rom. I was able to follow the guides here and get my phone flashed up.
If anyone has the same set up and needs help let me know!
How did you get permanent root on 3.70? I was going to try the'savior' adb method, but I'm afraid of bricking. I did just download unrevoked's new beta root though. I might try that when I get home
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how did you get root? I'm thinking of the savior method too (same evo specs). I'm guessing you used that since you're on sprintlovers?
So they sent me another dinc,not the dinc2 like they said. I guess there's no way to argue that eh?
Should I root it with unrevoked before I activate it to avoid the posibility of the GB update pushing automaticaly?
To my knowledge, you have to accept the update supposing it is truly rolling out. If Verizon really disliked you, the phone would have gingerbread pre-installed though haha
Go ahead and activate the phone and come back to the root side of Android.
Naw they didnt send it preinstalled luckilly,I'm also happy I have the inc1. Much more support.
I did get jittery and rooted it before activating. All the phone info pre-activation is the same and given how the changes are made in the radio. I don't see having a problem
Good to know. I wouldn't have though about rooting before activating, but you should be all set now.
Yup,activation went through without a hitch so I'm back in
Business(sense). One weird thing that happened was
my WiFi broke after flashing .92 hboot but after flashing
a rom it worked again. Im not going to think much of it
because everything is up an running