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Tied to Google Calendar?

I'm likley to be an Android newbie and read the thread below on the calendar. Work forces me to be tied to Outlook and I don't really want a three way sync Phone/Google/Outlook. Will I be able to just work with Phone/Outlook without Google?

alexbush said:
I'm likley to be an Android newbie and read the thread below on the calendar. Work forces me to be tied to Outlook and I don't really want a three way sync Phone/Google/Outlook. Will I be able to just work with Phone/Outlook without Google?
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I think so. You just have to register your exchange account on the phone and disable synchronization of calendar on your google account.
EDIT : ho, maybe I misunderstood. Maybe you don't use exchange server Anyway, you CAN disable google calendar synchronization.
EDIT2 : and I found this ^^ : http://www.android-sync.com/

Thanks Kiiv
Sounds good and thanks for the link. I do use M/S Exchange via data/wifi connections on occasion but when in the office I sync Outlook to my current Winmo phone over a cable. The link you gave is to a very early 'pre-alpha' piece of software - surely there is something already in existence for Android to Outlook over a cable (an equivalent to Active Sync?)

You want HTC Sync. I use it with my Hero and it will sync outlook 2007 contacts and calender.
http://www.htc.com/uk/SupportViewNews.aspx?dl_id=631&news_id=270
This software actually works with all HTC Android phones so guess it will also work with the Desire..

There is an official sofware from HTC (named "HTC sync") to synchronize with Windows PIM (so Outlook). I think it works only with Sense phone (an other advantage for the Desire over N1? ).
Don't find english page about this (only french) so I can't put a link.
EDIT : Damn, I'm to slow

Why would you NOT want to use Google Calendar?

brummiesteven said:
Why would you NOT want to use Google Calendar?
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When the whole company use Outlook 2007 and they are paying for the phone it's difficult to use anything else.
While, I suspect, most of us here have abandoned Windows Mobile 6 it's still very much a Microsoft world for most of the business community. If it wasn't for HTC Sync and "Documents to Go" to read Word and Excel files I would be forced to have a Windows Mobile phone.
I agree if you don't need to use "Outlook" then don't!

brummiesteven said:
Why would you NOT want to use Google Calendar?
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Let me see - are those enough as a start:
- battery life and constant cellular data. expensive & not needed.
- So far for WM ActiveSync (or email push) from google is a disaster. Calendar as well. Don't want to take chances to have that as the only option available.
- G-cal is a disaster, when it comes to something more than dinner reminders.
- tasks? categories?
- Shall we all just give all our personal & corporate data to this company for free?
- Don't like the idea to have an OS, advertised as open source, but not able to connect to =! google. blah, symbian is more open.
- How do you think the employer will react on the idea to bring the corporate data outside to the major well known data stealing giant? I'd like to remind we're in EU, not in U$-the issue can easily end up in the court.
- what if I'm working abroad? paying hundreds of euros just because I can't sync the calendar with the laptop next to me without cellular connection?
- why exactly google? I might want to use another cloud calendar for example

scotch whisky said:
When the whole company use Outlook 2007 and they are paying for the phone it's difficult to use anything else.
While, I suspect, most of us here have abandoned Windows Mobile 6 it's still very much a Microsoft world for most of the business community. If it wasn't for HTC Sync and "Documents to Go" to read Word and Excel files I would be forced to have a Windows Mobile phone.
I agree if you don't need to use "Outlook" then don't!
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Ahh ok, I didn't think about it like that.
In that case a simple solution would be to sync outlook (mail and calendar) to google? This way your phone will always be in sync and changes you make on your PC would automatically be pushed to your phone instead of you having to connect via USB and use HTC sync.

...and we have gone right round the circle! I don't want to use Outlook but I have to for work. I don't want to try and sync three systems if I can get away with syncing two... and yes I am slightly luddite about putting all my data in Google's hands
But seriously - thanks for all the replies

same boat, I've put my hopes in HTC Sync and if it doesn't work I'm in trouble! Still can't sync tasks though with HTC Sync

"G-Sync It" £10 but works nicely!

[Q] Will Windows Phone 7 Sync with Outlook that is not connected via Exchange?

The question on my mind is, will Windows Phone 7 Sync with Outlook that is not connected via Exchange?
I don't care about the emails but Contacts, Appointments & Tasks are important.
I hear about the Outlook connector but it seems to me that my PIM data will be moved over to LIVE account and then get synced.
I have a personal and a business domain that are hosted somewhere and I use outlook to get all my emails. I don't want to sync/copy my personal & business contacts on windows live mail. I have been waiting for WP7 to come out in lieu of getting a new mobile and this is not encouraging.
I assume Zune software will be upgraded to do most of the job.
Have I been reading wrong articles? Please guide me and correct me.

from what i read contacts/appointments will only be through activesync. i don't believe tasks are working as of yet.
how are you connecting outlook to your personal and business domains? to get anything more than email alone (pop/imap), you would have to have some protocol (e.g. exchange) in place to allow the rest to flow through.

Thanks
I am using POP3 at the moment and I don't believe the hosting provider gives me IMAP but I can live with it.
So ActiveSync or Windows Mobile Device Center will still work to sync? I heard any talking to the device will only be done via Zune Software!

i thought sop too.. that zune software will be doing the sync insted of the active sync or windows device manager...
as MS will have some provision to sync with outlook or express...
i am waiting for the devices to be out in the market..
dell and HTC HDD is the one i am looking for...

I posted a question in MSDN forums and I am not getting clears answers there.
http://social.msdn.microsoft.com/Fo...s/thread/fb28aeec-7dbb-4c92-890a-a7763ae82b60

The Windows Phone Radio podcast has answered this question and they say that there is full Outlook integration, and that's aside from the already robust Exchange ActiveSync capabilities.

Thank you. That is a sigh of relief. I am going to get one now as soon as possible.
Spoke too soon. Other posts clarify that it will not be supported.

I cannot believe that WP7 does not sync with outlook. This is a dealbreaker for me, I have to be able to sync my work laptops outlook calendar and contacts with my phone!!
I was just about to buy one, looks like I`ll be forced to buy android.
Bummer.

WP7 will sync with outlook but not OFFLINE outlook i.e. Outlook not connected to Exchange or Cloud. So if you want to move your contacts and all apointments from PST file to WP7, you have to sync them to the cloud first.

I was hunting around last night looking for a solution to this, and the only software I can find which will perform a periodic sync of my work outlook calendar up into the cloud is google calendar sync - the irony that I`m forced to use google to solve this problem is not lost on me!!
I know there is a microsoft supplied outlook addin for hotmail - but its not much good for this problem - you have to MANUALLY drag appointments from outlook calendar to get them up into the cloud.
I would be interested to hear how others are going to address this problem - are there other solutions out there??

Doesn't look to me that there is a solution to this sort of wait for someone to write a program to do so or have MS release an update to Zune to do so.

janemanno1 said:
Doesn't look to me that there is a solution to this sort of wait for someone to write a program to do so or have MS release an update to Zune to do so.
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I think theres lot of ways round this, I just posted one method already!!!
Interested to hear how others will approach it.

That is the whole point. I don't want to put my personal and businee contacts and appointments onto the CLOUD. I just don't trust them with the privacy and security.

janemanno1 said:
That is the whole point. I don't want to put my personal and businee contacts and appointments onto the CLOUD. I just don't trust them with the privacy and security.
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I hear you, and Im not super keen on the concept either.
The only smartphone that nativley supports local outlook sync is iphone.

Well then that sux. I am all for WP7 par this. Any one has any idea about the REAL technical reasons behind this?

This doesn't sound encouraging.
I too have a similar issue. My company doesn't allow connecting to the Exchange server from personal phones and local Outlook sync was the only way for me to keep track of the meetings / tasks (also contacts) through my personal phone (Fuze).

janemanno1 said:
Well then that sux. I am all for WP7 par this. Any one has any idea about the REAL technical reasons behind this?
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There is no specific technical barrier that stops this. Its a conscious design decision to leave it out.
And theres no guarantee that MS` new closed approach to WP7 will mean that 3rd parties are allowed to write a local sync solution, either. Time will tell on that one.
The cloud is the future, aparrently, like it or not.

I am also concerned about my Outlook data. having my data in the Cloud bothers me too, I want the data with me not online. It doesn't matter how careful I am with data, anthing that is not under my direct control is at risk.
For example I have an email address shared only with friends which was all fine until one of my friend fell foul of a social network scam, not my email address is out in the wild and I'm recieving spam. i may be tech savvy, but some people should be allowed near a PC or phone. I don't want to put personal data in the Cloud only to have someone hack MS and gain access. Can you image a list of peoples diary saying where they are and when they are not at home, please come and rob me.

xma1e said:
I am also concerned about my Outlook data. having my data in the Cloud bothers me too, I want the data with me not online. It doesn't matter how careful I am with data, anthing that is not under my direct control is at risk.
For example I have an email address shared only with friends which was all fine until one of my friend fell foul of a social network scam, not my email address is out in the wild and I'm recieving spam. i may be tech savvy, but some people should be allowed near a PC or phone. I don't want to put personal data in the Cloud only to have someone hack MS and gain access. Can you image a list of peoples diary saying where they are and when they are not at home, please come and rob me.
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Take a pragmatic look at what data about you is out there on the internet and make a considered, risk based approach. If after that you still don`t like contacts and calendar events in the cloud, WP7 is not for you.

scoob101 said:
Take a pragmatic look at what data about you is out there on the internet and make a considered, risk based approach. If after that you still don`t like contacts and calendar events in the cloud, WP7 is not for you.
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Very little is out there about me that I don't want out there. There's a difference between what is out there and what PERSONAL information I have in Outlook, which includes my diary, past and present, things I need to do, notes I make, etc.
I plan to look at WP7 once the devices are out and find out how things work myself before making a judgement either way. At the moment it's all speculation because very few people have their hands on one.

[Q] contact transfer

When I bought me Focus the ATT rep installed a new sim card. The rep didn’t copy all my contacts from my 2 year old Fuze running Winmo 6.5. I haven’t seen anything in Zune to copy my contacts from Outlook to the Focus. I have copied through activsync all my contacts from the Fuze to Outlook but can’t find a method to know get the outlook contacts on my Focus sim. Thanks for any suggestions.

TJMJT said:
When I bought me Focus the ATT rep installed a new sim card. The rep didn’t copy all my contacts from my 2 year old Fuze running Winmo 6.5. I haven’t seen anything in Zune to copy my contacts from Outlook to the Focus. I have copied through activsync all my contacts from the Fuze to Outlook but can’t find a method to know get the outlook contacts on my Focus sim. Thanks for any suggestions.
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Windows Phone 7 does not currently sync directly with your desktop Outlook client (via USB, or any other directly connected method). The phone was designed to sync with cloud-based services, which means that it ties into your Windows Live ID (Hotmail contacts), or Exchange ActiveSync accounts (such as Gmail).
A workaround would be to use the Outlook Connector to add your Windows Live Hotmail account to Outlook, and then copy your contacts from your Outlook file to your Hotmail account.
The phone automatically syncs Email, Calendar, and Contact information from your Windows Live ID.
Please try a search next time, as this question and information on this topic is everywhere.

what about sms messages?
is there any way to get them into the phone?

blanket said:
what about sms messages?
is there any way to get them into the phone?
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So far, no.

Backup Contacts

Hi I have a silly question: how do I backup the contacts from my phone onto my pc or internet?
I have acquired a lot of contacts post-getting the phone, and I want to backup my contacts before experimenting with it.
So, how do I backup all the phone numbers on my simcard, pc, or just the internet so i can retrieve it later?
I don't use outlook and stuff, but I don't mind using as long as someone cares to explain how.
thanks in advance

Hopefully there is some type of app or way through Zune. Don't have my phone yet but will let you know once I receive it.

Contacts should automatically be synced with Windows Live. Go to your windows live account on your pc and look at the contacts there to verify.

PG2G said:
Contacts should automatically be synced with Windows Live. Go to your windows live account on your pc and look at the contacts there to verify.
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From windows live i can't see any phone numbers of people on my phone :/

How did you add the contacts, just import from SIM?

In my case it was done by Hotmail sync.

Yes. I imported from sim. how do i back up to sim now?
Or how do i do hotmail sync to backup?
when i got the phone i did this:
import from sim
add live account
add gmail account
add facebook
link everything as much as i could
but now i have more ppl's numbers, mostly just numbers no other linked accounts. how do i back these up to my simcard/phone/hotmail/whatever ?
cheers

Is your Windows Live (or some other account, like Google) setup to sync contacts?
I can't really say for sure, my process was a bit different than yours. I was waiting for the release date so I had everything already setup in Windows Live

Ahhh. I see. Nothing is synced to my windows live.
But even then, all i want to backup is phonebook/phone contacts to my sim. I don't care about anything else. Is it really that hard? Microsoft really thought it would be impossible anyone would ever have any reason to want to transfer their contacts from a one to another phone? wtf

ameel said:
Ahhh. I see. Nothing is synced to my windows live.
But even then, all i want to backup is phonebook/phone contacts to my sim. I don't care about anything else. Is it really that hard? Microsoft really thought it would be impossible anyone would ever have any reason to want to transfer their contacts from a one to another phone? wtf
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The cloud really has been perfect for handling contacts for me. For example, my phone was stolen a month or so ago, if the contacts were just on the sim they'd all be gone now. I had the phone replaced under insurance, added my Windows Live id, and all of my contacts were back within minutes.
I can't really think of a reason not to sync contacts to either Google or Windows Live nowadays. Let them handle your backup

PG2G said:
The cloud really has been perfect for handling contacts for me. For example, my phone was stolen a month or so ago, if the contacts were just on the sim they'd all be gone now. I had the phone replaced under insurance, added my Windows Live id, and all of my contacts were back within minutes.
I can't really think of a reason not to sync contacts to either Google or Windows Live nowadays. Let them handle your backup
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Ok, I get that. Sounds really great, but how do I get my phonebook from my windows phone 7 on the cloud now? :/
As in how do you do it in the first place?

You did setup a Windows Live account, right?

PG2G said:
You did setup a Windows Live account, right?
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im using the windows live account that i usually use for everything else on my phone, yes

ameel said:
im using the windows live account that i usually use for everything else on my phone, yes
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Hrm, not sure what else you'd need to do. You can try long pressing on Windows Live to force sync.
When you add a new contact on your phone, it should have automatically been added to Windows Live (mine gives me a selection between Windows Live and Google).

PG2G said:
Hrm, not sure what else you'd need to do. You can try long pressing on Windows Live to force sync.
When you add a new contact on your phone, it should have automatically been added to Windows Live (mine gives me a selection between Windows Live and Google).
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when you say windows live, where exactly do you go on your computer/online to find your windows live contacts?

ameel said:
when you say windows live, where exactly do you go on your computer/online to find your windows live contacts?
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www.live.com Hotmail -> Contacts

PG2G said:
Hrm, not sure what else you'd need to do. You can try long pressing on Windows Live to force sync.
When you add a new contact on your phone, it should have automatically been added to Windows Live (mine gives me a selection between Windows Live and Google).
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crap you WERE RIGHT!!! IT IS ON MY WINDOWS LIVE ACCOUNT >_< it's just the mobile phone contacts are separate!! when i clicked on someone i thought i would see their phone number, but i didnt. it was just seperate entry. haha! then again, i can link them from windows live.
cheers mate

No problem, glad that worked out Managing contacts on the web is real nice, there are some nice combine/clean up features for linking different accounts.

ameel said:
crap you WERE RIGHT!!! IT IS ON MY WINDOWS LIVE ACCOUNT >_< it's just the mobile phone contacts are separate!! when i clicked on someone i thought i would see their phone number, but i didnt. it was just seperate entry. haha! then again, i can link them from windows live.
cheers mate
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you can also merge contacts from windows live as you may find duplicates. it may take a bit but i suggest merging your contacts if they're duplicated. these changes will be visible on the phone as well.

The Gate Keeper said:
you can also merge contacts from windows live as you may find duplicates. it may take a bit but i suggest merging your contacts if they're duplicated. these changes will be visible on the phone as well.
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yup i saw that!
cheers

[Q] Samsung GS3 Rooting Questions from a Noob

Greetings,
I am about to root my Samsung Galaxy S3 after that option was suggested to me by DocHoliday77 to address a problem with my media player on my phone. After looking at the procedure for rooting using "Odin", I feel reasonably confident in attempting to root my phone. Before i take the plunge, I have a few questions:
1. Will a rooted phone still be detected by Samsung Kies?
I sync my files using Samsung Kies.
2. Will Odin work on Windows 8?
I am about to update to windows 8, so I would like to know if should root my phone before or after I update to "8"?
Thanks all in advance.

themorn said:
1. Will a rooted phone still be detected by Samsung Kies?
I sync my files using Samsung Kies.
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Stop. The only thing worse than Kies is iTunes. If you tell us what you are syncing, I'm sure we can provide a better way,
themorn said:
2. Will Odin work on Windows 8?
I am about to update to windows 8, so I would like to know if should root my phone before or after I update to "8"?
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Don't see why it wouldn't, but I have no intention of ever "upgrading" to it, so am currently, and for the foreseeable future, unable to test this.

Also, Odin will not work with Kies running. Either you need to force it to stop, or better yet, ax it!
There is almost no one here who likes kies and uses it by choice! To each his own, but imo kies is a horrible piece of s...oftware!
I cannot attest to win 8 either. (My upgrade was to format Windows 8 and install Win 7!)
But Odin should work. Try using win7 compatibility mode if it gives you trouble. Id just do what you need to do before you move to 8 though.
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Aerowinder said:
Stop. The only thing worse than Kies is iTunes. If you tell us what you are syncing, I'm sure we can provide a better way,
Don't see why it wouldn't, but I have no intention of ever "upgrading" to it, so am currently, and for the foreseeable future, unable to test this.
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Greetings Aerowinder,
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Quote 1 -
I was never an apple fan so I am in your corner on that one. I have had very few issues with Kies. The primary items I sync with are:
Outlook Calendar and tasks,
Contacts,
podcast.
I would especially like to find a way to sync "S memo" (which I have to admit I have not found a way to do even with kies). I also will mention that kies did not back up my files and info, so I lost much of the fine details with my contacts and calendars (sucks trying to match the pictures with my contacts). I attribute that to most of my info being stored on my SD card instead of the internal memory of my phone. I am fortunate in that much of my info was stored on outlook and my Google account (as well as Advance Mobile care).
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Opinions seem to vary with Win 8, but I am reasonably comfortable taking the plunge with that upgrade as well. I had a chance to play with 8 on some display models @ Micro center and Tiger Direct. I have been assured that any software running on 7 will work with 8. As far as I know, there is no compatibility mode in win 8. I was hoping that There is someone with some hands on using "Odin" on a Win 8 OS.
Thank you for your speedy response and input.

I'm not sure about a syncing tool that'll sync smemo. But ill look around.
For contacts, regardless of how you backup everything else, I find exporting to a .vcf is a wise thing to do. Importing the .vcf is just as easy.
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Aerowinder said:
Stop. The only thing worse than Kies is iTunes. If you tell us what you are syncing, I'm sure we can provide a better way,
Don't see why it wouldn't, but I have no intention of ever "upgrading" to it, so am currently, and for the foreseeable future, unable to test this.
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DocHoliday77 said:
Also, Odin will not work with Kies running. Either you need to force it to stop, or better yet, ax it!
There is almost no one here who likes kies and uses it by choice! To each his own, but imo kies is a horrible piece of s...oftware!
I cannot attest to win 8 either. (My upgrade was to format Windows 8 and install Win 7!)
But Odin should work. Try using win7 compatibility mode if it gives you trouble. Id just do what you need to do before you move to 8 though.
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Greetings DocHoliday77,
My win 7 was corrupted when I was downloading some files to the point that I had to format my Hard Drive, and reinstall Win 7. Unfortunately, the only copy of win 7 for my laptop was on a flash drive and the flies on that have been corrupted as well. My decision came down to another win 7 Ultimate, or Win 8. If I am not mistaken, 7 went through its share of growing pains as well. Right now I am using another copy of Win 7 home premium that has been activated on another PC. I have 30 day to activate it, so now i am down to about a week. As I have mentioned on a previous post, I don't think win 8 has a compatibility mode, but right I don't have any applications that need to be installed or running in compatibility mode. I was assured that anything that is running on 7 will work on 8.
I only run Kies when I want to sync information that I stored on my laptop, otherwise kies is not running. I would be interested in some alternative software that will sync my GS3 with outlook 2007, contacts, podcast, and especially S memo. I have not had the misfortunes that others have had using kies, but then again that maybe due to my using it only when I need to sync my phone.
I am probably going to do as you suggested and root my phone under Win 7, then install Win 8.
Thanks much for your quick response and input.

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DocHoliday77 said:
I'm not sure about a syncing tool that'll sync smemo. But ill look around.
For contacts, regardless of how you backup everything else, I find exporting to a .vcf is a wise thing to do. Importing the .vcf is just as easy.
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As far as syncing my contacts is concerned, I seem to be having good luck using outlook 2007. My info is also backed up on Advanced Mobile care as well. The drawback is that no pictures associated with the contacts are saved. I have saved some of my contacts using ".vcf" cards. Is there a way to save groups of contacts using vcf cards?
What is a good app to use to sync outlook to Google Calendar? Now that calendar sync has been changed, I am looking for an alternative, especially to sync outlook to Google. I am thinking about syncing outlook to google, then google to my phone.
Thanks much for your help so far...

themorn said:
As far as syncing my contacts is concerned, I seem to be having good luck using outlook 2007. My info is also backed up on Advanced Mobile care as well. The drawback is that no pictures associated with the contacts are saved. I have saved some of my contacts using ".vcf" cards. Is there a way to save groups of contacts using vcf cards?
What is a good app to use to sync outlook to Google Calendar? Now that calendar sync has been changed, I am looking for an alternative, especially to sync outlook to Google. I am thinking about syncing outlook to google, then google to my phone.
Thanks much for your help so far...
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You need to let Google do the work for you. You are doing everything manually.
Use Keep instead of S Memo (there are literally an uncountable number of apps like this that automatically sync), use the Google calendars instead of Outlook, merge all of your contacts into your Google account (should be an option in the Contacts app). As far as calendars, I'm not sure if there is an app that can directly transfer them, but a Google search could yield some answers.

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Aerowinder said:
You need to let Google do the work for you. You are doing everything manually.
Use Keep instead of S Memo (there are literally an uncountable number of apps like this that automatically sync), use the Google calendars instead of Outlook, merge all of your contacts into your Google account (should be an option in the Contacts app). As far as calendars, I'm not sure if there is an app that can directly transfer them, but a Google search could yield some answers.
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Greetings Aerowinder,
Thank you for your input. My Phone Explorer is a very good Software Application to sync Outlook to my phone. The only problem is that it doesn't sync outlook task. What is nice about Outlook is that everything I needed is integrated into outlook. Google Sync was the one app that linked outlook to my google account. My phone explorer is very close in that it sync outlook to my phone, but doesn't sync outlook task. I could attach S memo to my task and/or Calendar for my SIII. I may (reluctantly) re install Kies so I will be able to sync all of Outlook to my phone. I am open to any suggestions to address my issues and request. Thank you for your request and suggestions to date.

Update:
I descovered that the app that I use to sync my phone to outlook (MyPhoneExplorer) does have task sync function. The task sync function is different from the task function that is intergrated into outlook. The task feature for "MyPhoneExplorer" behaves more like a pop up reminder that doesn't allow the option to edit from the phone. The task can be seen, but not accessed from the phone, and is not integrated into outlook. Any changes that need to be made to the task will have to be done from the PC.